Sasquatch (Tanaraq) versus Juggernaut

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masterbruce
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/41000/40648/4342-tanaraq_400.jpg vs http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1445/137081-juggernaut_400.jpg

CaptainStoic
Two Avatars huh? I say Juggernaut will win just like I would put money on Cyttorak beating Tanaraq... maybe you should have made this battle about the chief deities themselves, Or are they Demonic spirits... whatever. I stand by my decision Juggernaut will utterly defeat him, if this is Cain at his most powerful. Trion is too much, but if we were talking about 8th day, and how he took on Thor and made it look like Hulk vs Cage, this fight is in the bag for Cain.

masterbruce
this is classic Juggernaut, not 8th day or trion

llagrok
Tanaraq was like, phased by Doom's beam and Mimic's optic blast.

King_Mungi
Wait is this Exiles Tanaraq vs. Juggernaut? If so what is Jugz even going to do to him when Zarathos and Kulan Gath (Dr.Strange level being as stated) could do nothing.

1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10562005puar-DCP07.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP09.jpg
3. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP11.jpg
4. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP12.jpg
5. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP13_14.jpg
6. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP15.jpg
7. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP16.jpg
8. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP17.jpg
9. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP18.jpg
10. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP19.jpg
11. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP20.jpg

Now if this is Sasquatch vs. Juggernaut ie. No Tanaraq, Juggernaut wins as he has no way of actually hurting Jugz.

Originally posted by llagrok
Tanaraq was like, phased by Doom's beam and Mimic's optic blast.

Phazed my Mimic's blast? Errrr?

1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exiles0582005puar-DCP04.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exiles0582005puar-DCP05.jpg

and that's Exiles Tanaraq and even wasn't the true power Tanaraq as he was bound by a human host and the previous issue took blasts from Zarathos and Kulan Gath and was unphazed and their vastly above Doom. So errrr?

llagrok
Okay, not phased, but he felt it.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by llagrok
Okay, not phased, but he felt it.

Wouldn't even go that far, but regardless..

Zarathos > Mimic & Doom

1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP15.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP16.jpg

Kulan Gath > Mimic & Doom

1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP18.jpg

llagrok
These are alternate versions Mungi smile

King_Mungi
Originally posted by llagrok
These are alternate versions Mungi smile

Yeah...and they were stated to be stronger then their 616 counterpart due to Kulan Gath's spell, which he actually did in the 616 universe as well. Which this Exiles story is based from.

Galan007
Barring BFR, what can Tanaraq do to stop Classic Juggs?

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Galan007
Barring BFR, what can Tanaraq do to stop Classic Juggs?

Well we havn't seen really what Exiles Tanaraq could do , but 616 definetly has options as he has complete control over death and decay and can attack a persons body and soul simply by looking at them. Also being a high level magical entity himself also helps

Magical Backlash:
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight23-16.jpg

Death & Decay:
1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight38-15.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight44-19.jpg

Mythology:
1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/x-man_040-11.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/x-man_040-12.jpg

Galan007
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well we havn't seen really what Exiles Tanaraq could do , but 616 definetly has options as he has complete control over death and decay and can attack a persons body and soul simply by looking at them. Also being high level magical himself also helps Yeah, I read those Exiles issues, . thumb up

Anyhow,
Don't get me wrong, Tanaraq is damn impressive overall -- But I saw nothing really, , that would lead me to think he could take the majority over Classic Juggs.

I mean, when many people think of Juggernaut in general, they think of nothing but a brick of a character -- And as I'm sure you know, Classic Juggs was much more.

I dunno, just my opinion. 313

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah.

I read those Exiles issues, and Tanaraq was damn impressive -- But I saw nothing really, , that would lead me to think he could take the majority over Classic Juggs.

I mean, when many people think of Juggernaut in general, they think of nothing but a brick of a character -- And as I'm sure you know, Classic Juggs was much more.

I dunno, just my opinion. 313

If were talking strickly Exiles Tanaraq then I completly agree as we didn't see anything that could put Jugz away. However, on the other hand it was shown putting Tanaraq down won't happen if beings more powerful couldn't do it. Hence, why I have been postings feats on defense rather then offense.

Indeed Jugz is, but I don't see him competeting against this kind of power through

1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_13.jpg
2. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_14.jpg
3. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_15.jpg
4. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_16.jpg
5. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_17.jpg
6. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_18.jpg
7. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_19.jpg
8. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_20.jpg
9. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_21.jpg
10. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_22.jpg
11. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_23.jpg

Kurash
id say juggs

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Kurash
id say juggs

Depends on what character ie. incarnations this is

As normal Sasquatch would stand no chance against Juggernaut, but Tanaraq would destroy Jugz. Cyttorak vs. Tanaraq? No idea as we have seen very little of Tanaraq to really say , other then we both know their Elder Gods older then the Earth itself.

Galan007
Originally posted by King_Mungi
If were talking strickly Exiles Tanaraq then I completly agree as we didn't see anything that could put Jugz away. Is this not Exiles Tanaraq?

I just assumed it was because that's who the pic is of in the opening post.

srug

Originally posted by King_Mungi
However, on the other hand it was shown putting Tanaraq down won't happen if beings more powerful couldn't do it. Hence, why I have been postings feats on defense rather then offense.Yeah, 616 Tanny might change things a bit, but I still haven't seen much that would make me think he can take a solid majority here.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Indeed Jugz is, but I don't see him competeting against this kind of power through

1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_13.jpg
2. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_14.jpg
3. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_15.jpg
4. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_16.jpg
5. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_17.jpg
6. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_18.jpg
7. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_19.jpg
8. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_20.jpg
9. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_21.jpg
10. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_22.jpg
11. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/OmegaFLight3_23.jpg Nice! . thumb up

But even in them there scans, I don't see anything that makes me say, "damn Tanny would pwn classic Juggs." -- Actually I see Juggs easily withstanding the punishment being dealt out in those panels.

I'm not trying to be a douche at all, just giving my personal opinion.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Galan007
Is this not Exiles Tanaraq?

I just assumed it was because that's who the pic is of in the opening post.srug

Wasn't sure myself as that's why I asked as the title of the thread says Sasquatch not Tanaraq

Originally posted by Galan007

Yeah, 616 Tanny might change things a bit, but I still haven't seen much that would make me think he can take a solid majority here.

Wow, and what would Jugz even do to 616 Tanaraq?

Originally posted by Galan007
Nice! . thumb up

But even in them there scans, I don't see anything that makes me say, "damn Tanny would pwn classic Juggs." -- Actually I see Juggs easily withstanding the punishment being dealt out.

I'm not trying to be a douche at all, just giving my honest opinion.

....Errrr? You do know that wasn't an attack right? But a power boost for the Crew who in the next issue were bragging they could destroy the planet with ease. So how does that show him easily withstanding the punishment dealt out when Tanaraq didn't attack?

Galan007
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Wow, and what would Jugz even do to 616 Tanaraq?Withstand what Tanny dishes out?

I just think of the Godblast doing little more then slowing Juggernaut's forward momentum.

srug

I personally just haven't seen any Tanny feats that make me think he would down Juggs, yet.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
....Errrr? You do know that wasn't an attack right? But a power boost for the Crew who in the next issue were bragging they could destroy the planet with ease. So how does that show him easily withstanding the punishment dealt out when Tanaraq didn't attack? Hmm.

You said:
"Indeed Jugz is, but I don't see him competeting against this kind of power through "


I replied with:
"But even in them there scans, I don't see anything that makes me say, "damn Tanny would pwn classic Juggs." -- Actually I see Juggs easily withstanding the punishment being dealt out in those panels."


My retort was fitting to the statement you made. stick out tongue

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Galan007
Withstand what Tanny dishes out?

I just think of the Godblast doing little more then slowing Juggernaut's forward momentum.

srug

I personally just haven't seen any Tanny feats that make me think he would down Juggs, yet.

As I shown earlier a weak Tanaraq actually hurt Talisman simply by looking at her. She is considered a god of magic and can cancel and absorb any form of magic no matter who it is. Who says he even has to defeat him physically when he can simply attack his soul or attack his mind.

Originally posted by Galan007

Hmm.

You said:
"Indeed Jugz is, but I don't see him competeting against this kind of power through "


I replied with:
"But even in them there scans, I don't see anything that makes me say, "damn Tanny would pwn classic Juggs." -- Actually I see Juggs easily withstanding the punishment being dealt out in those panels."

My retort was fitting to the statement you made. stick out tongue

Still don't see how as it wasn't an attack, it was show his power making 4 Beta Ray Bill level hearlds with ease. It was a way to illustrate what could Jugz even do to Tanaraq? He is an Elder God after all and the personification of death on Earth when it was first commencing alive. Even Oeming sure made it seem like Tanaraq = Surtur

llagrok
In all fairness, did we ever see Exiles Tanaraq REALLY fight someone? He seemed to be wading through attacks and somehow attacks from minor characters seemed to annoy him more than attacks from insanely strong magicians.

Is this is a sign of magic resistance maybe? Perhaps he could do something with Juggernaut's forcefield?

Galan007
Originally posted by King_Mungi
As I shown earlier a weak Tanaraq actually hurt Talisman simply by looking at her. She is considered a god of magic and can cancel and absorb any form of magic no matter who it is. Who says he even has to defeat him physically when he can simply attack his soul or attack his mind.



Still don't see how as it wasn't an attack, it was show his power making 4 Beta Ray Bill level hearlds with ease. It was a way to illustrate what could Jugz even do to Tanaraq? He is an Elder God after all and the personification of death on Earth when it was first commencing alive. Even Oeming sure made it seem like Tanaraq = Surtur Bollocks.

Juggernaut knows teh magic too!

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_juggs_strange1.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_juggs_strange2.jpg


durfist

Galan007
Originally posted by llagrok
Perhaps he could do something with Juggernaut's forcefield? That would be his best bet, imo.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Galan007
Bollocks.

Juggernaut knows teh magic too!

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_juggs_strange1.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_juggs_strange2.jpg

durfist

*snickers* on the level of Talisman? Naaaaa wink

Originally posted by llagrok
In all fairness, did we ever see Exiles Tanaraq REALLY fight someone? He seemed to be wading through attacks and somehow attacks from minor characters seemed to annoy him more than attacks from insanely strong magicians.

Is this is a sign of magic resistance maybe? Perhaps he could do something with Juggernaut's forcefield?

Like you mentioned he really fought Kulan Gath, Zarathos basically got one-shooted so not much of a fight. Namora a class 100 character was swatted away like a fly in the next issue. Only thing that actually annoyed him was Doom who had knowledge of him before arriving, and after attacking him Tanaraq was more pissed then anything as he one-shooted him.

1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exiles0582005puar-DCP16.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exiles0582005puar-DCP17.jpg

Impossible to say, maybe the magical backlash can do that

Galan007
Originally posted by King_Mungi
*snickers* on the level of Talisman? Naaaaa wink Pfft..

Perhaps you missed the statement made by Nightmare, where he says that Jugg's power/magic may have made him the "ruler of a lesser Cosmos."


Cain's magic > Tanny's, (clearly).

It's undebatable really. bat

Master-Borg
this is 616 Tanaraq

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Galan007
Pfft..

Perhaps you missed the statement made by Nightmare, where he says that Jugg's power/magic may have made him the "ruler of a lesser Cosmos."

Cain's magic > Tanny's, (clearly).

It's undebatable really. bat

bat

Guess it's a good thing Talisman has shown to absorb an entire universe into her head eh? wink

How is Cain's magic better then Tanaraq's?

Originally posted by Master-Borg
this is 616 Tanaraq

Then there is literally nothing Jugz could do to Tanaraq, while Tanaraq has options against him.

Galan007
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Guess it's a good thing Talisman has shown to absorb an entire universe into her head eh? wink Clearly you missed the context of my post.

Cain's magic is obviously > a Universe, (or else he wouldn't be able to rule one). durfist
Originally posted by King_Mungi
while Tanaraq has options against him. I haven't seen any. stick out tongue

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Galan007
Clearly you missed the context of my post.

Cain's magic is obviously > a Universe, (or else he wouldn't be able to rule one). durfist

Well then awesome for the Beasts as they rule a universe too wink

Originally posted by Galan007

I haven't seen any. stick out tongue

BFR, soul attack, telepathy smile

Galan007
Originally posted by King_Mungi
BFR That's the only advantage I've seen.

herbhappy

snoopdogg
Juggernaut.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Galan007
That's the only advantage I've seen.

herbhappy

Errr? Telepathy won't work? Or attacking his soul, which doesn't have the durability like his body does would fail? Your crazy wink

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Juggernaut.

You think Juggernaut can beat Tanaraq? How?

Battlehammer
why does every one assume it is not 616 sas?

I mean look who posted the pick like he would know the difference

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Battlehammer
why does every one assume it is not 616 sas?

I mean look who posted the pick like he would know the difference

He actually picked 616 Tanaraq not Sasquatch, so I can see the confusion.

EDIT: Well seems Masterbruce changed his name.

Galan007
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Errr? Telepathy won't work? Only if Tanny can get past the helmet.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Galan007
Only if Tanny can get past the helmet.

...or simply knock it off and he won't have to worry about it.

Galan007
Originally posted by King_Mungi
...or simply knock it off and he won't have to worry about it. Meh,

That's cheating. 131

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Galan007
Meh,

That's cheating. 131

Damn, well how does Jugz deal with Canadian singers then?

Galan007
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Damn, well how does Jugz deal with Canadian singers then? C'mon Mungi,

Canadian singers are everyone's Kryptonite -- You should know that by now.


N00b. gm

King_Mungi
point taken...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uO_vFuzPJvc

Galan007
Originally posted by King_Mungi
point taken...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uO_vFuzPJvc suicide1wa

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