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Maxima. Too many powers. She was able to knock DOS doomsday off of his feat and took his hits and wanted more. Plus with all those copy powers, magnetic powers, tK, Flight, super strength, telepathy, matter manip, and the kitchen sinkl, I don' t see how she can lose. And she's a very good warrior on top of all that.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Maxima. Too many powers. She was able to knock DOS doomsday off of his feat and took his hits and wanted more. Plus with all those copy powers, magnetic powers, tK, Flight, super strength, telepathy, matter manip, and the kitchen sinkl, I don' t see how she can lose. And she's a very good warrior on top of all that.

Fanboy

Originally posted by Mikeros
Fanboy I am glad you realize thats what you are.

Yep I have to agree, Maxima is just under Superman as far as raw strength goes, and she's a warrior princess to boot. I would give her a huge majority over Wonder Woman sans PIS. Her telepathic attacks may not work on the Hulk though, her matter manipulation may not work on his flesh either, but I'm almost certain that she could imprison him within something and while he was trying to get out she could simply throw him into the sun. If however she gets careless and engages him hand to hand she will eventually become a victim to his feats of strength. Written properly though she could technically finish this fight very quickly.

Maxima 7/10

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Maxima. Too many powers. She was able to knock DOS doomsday off of his feat and took his hits and wanted more.

She was in a coma after being in the gas station explosion.

Bump

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Maxima. Too many powers. She was able to knock DOS doomsday off of his feat and took his hits and wanted more. Plus with all those copy powers, magnetic powers, tK, Flight, super strength, telepathy, matter manip, and the kitchen sinkl, I don' t see how she can lose. And she's a very good warrior on top of all that.

No.

Whatcha gonna do about it? (Everyone else, KEEP OUT OF THIS It's between me and him. )

Originally posted by cdtm
No.

Whatcha gonna do about it? (Everyone else, KEEP OUT OF THIS It's between me and him. )

Maxima. She's everything Jean Grey should have been but wasn't

I would say a giant thunderclap should do it.

Originally posted by golem370
I would say a giant thunderclap should do it.

Yea Maxima thunderclaps him into nonexistence

Originally posted by Stoic
Yep I have to agree, Maxima is just under Superman as far as raw strength goes, and she's a warrior princess to boot. I would give her a huge majority over Wonder Woman sans PIS. Her telepathic attacks may not work on the Hulk though, her matter manipulation may not work on his flesh either, but I'm almost certain that she could imprison him within something and while he was trying to get out she could simply throw him into the sun. If however she gets careless and engages him hand to hand she will eventually become a victim to his feats of strength. Written properly though she could technically finish this fight very quickly.

Maxima 7/10 CO-sign

Hulk powers through everything Maxima throws at him and heat her to sleep. She isn't powerful enough to beat him.

Maxima wins

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk powers through everything Maxima throws at him and heat her to sleep. She isn't powerful enough to beat him.

hulk has fire powers?

Beat, crazy. He knock her clean out with a solid hit.

Originally posted by carver9
Beat, crazy. He knock her clean out with a solid hit.

The Hulk would have Maxima in the kitchen doing dishes after this fight is over.

I always wondered y a telekinetic didnt just leave a brick without flight suspended in the air? Seems like a simple enuff trick

Because Hulk would just smash the air.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I always wondered y a telekinetic didnt just leave a brick without flight suspended in the air? Seems like a simple enuff trick

I think it's because a lot of the time TK is portrayed as like an "invisible hand" in comics, so bricks have a way to break free of it.

Originally posted by Dampyre
The Hulk would have Maxima in the kitchen doing dishes after this fight is over.
It's more likely she pulls him into the astral plane (like Strange did to WWH) and crushes his mind there. /Fin

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I think it's because a lot of the time TK is portrayed as like an "invisible hand" in comics, so bricks have a way to break free of it.


Good point. Id like to see tk expanded upon. Also wonder y some of hulks esoteric abilities have never been explained like seeing ghost and such

Originally posted by zopzop
It's more likely she pulls him into the astral plane (like Strange did to WWH) and crushes his mind there. /Fin

Excluding abstract/cosmic characters(obviously), Maxima is probably one of the most powerful female characters in DC or Marvel's history. I'm not sure why so many people have these preconceived blocks in place that prevent them from recognizing/acknowledging her 'uberness'..?

She has TONS of ridiculously impressive showings, and very few lows showings in relation. She would give ANY herald a damn good fight -- hell, she'd likely beat most of them in a forum setting. ermm

Originally posted by Galan007


Excluding abstract/cosmic characters(obviously), Maxima is probably one of the most powerful female characters in DC or Marvel's history. I'm not sure why so many people have these preconceived blocks in place that prevent them from recognizing/acknowledging her 'uberness'..?

She has TONS of ridiculously impressive showings, and very few lows showings in relation. She would give ANY herald a damn good fight -- hell, she'd likely beat most of them in a forum setting. ermm

Same reason people dont give Sersi, Zatanna, Snowbird love.

Originally posted by zopzop
It's more likely she pulls him into the astral plane (like Strange did to WWH) and crushes his mind there. /Fin

Did you read that scene Zop. Strange prepped against Hulk to pull that off. If it wasn't for the army attacking him with adamantium bullets, Strange would have never succeeded at getting Hulk in the plane.

Originally posted by Galan007


Excluding abstract/cosmic characters(obviously), Maxima is probably one of the most powerful female characters in DC or Marvel's history. I'm not sure why so many people have these preconceived blocks in place that prevent them from recognizing/acknowledging her 'uberness'..?

She has TONS of ridiculously impressive showings, and very few lows showings in relation. She would give ANY herald a damn good fight -- hell, she'd likely beat most of them in a forum setting. ermm

Hulk on average is resistant against things like that.

On "average"?

Despite all of her powers, Maxima likes to brawl...

This is the worst possible way to fight Hulk, and Maxima will learn this lesson in a very painful way...

Hulk eventually overwhelms her 10/10...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Despite all of her powers, Maxima likes to brawl...

This is the worst possible way to fight Hulk, and Maxima will learn this lesson in a very painful way...

Hulk eventually overwhelms her 10/10...

Not really

She is actually portrayed using a lot of tk/tp on her fights

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Not really

She is actually portrayed using a lot of tk/tp on her fights

Did she do that against Doomsday?

Seemed like women who enjoys brawling to me in that fight...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Did she do that against Doomsday?

Seemed like women who enjoys brawling to me in that fight...

IIRC she did and you will need to read more Maxima in order for you to claim that she just brawls, which apparently you are juat making an argument of ignorance.

She actually uses her other powers (see Galan's respect thread of Maxima)

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Did she do that against Doomsday?

Seemed like women who enjoys brawling to me in that fight...

She fist fought Doomsday.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk on average is resistant against things like that.

Originally posted by cdtm

Originally posted by carver9

If Maxima Brawls, Hulk takes this.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Did she do that against Doomsday?

Seemed like women who enjoys brawling to me in that fight... TP was actually the first tactic Maxima attempted against DD. When that failed(as we've seen multiple times: DD's mind is nigh-impossible to sustain control of, because he doesn't have a 'mind' in the typical sense) she started throwing fisticuffs... And aside from Superman, her punches were the only ones capable of rocking DD. On that note, Doomsday never beat her one-on-one, and never caused her any real damage.

But yeah, Maxima typically does use her psi abilities in most battles. Fighting an opponent strictly h2h would actually be more of an outlier.

Martian Manhunter as Bloodwynd couldn't even stagger him.

Originally posted by cdtm
Martian Manhunter as Bloodwynd couldn't even stagger him.

She would try to engage him because her mind attack isn't working unless we use Hulk at his lowest. He would power through her attacks and eventually ko her for the win.

Originally posted by cdtm
Martian Manhunter as Bloodwynd couldn't even stagger him. Maxima on the other hand...

http://i.imgur.com/3jLHhSE.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/efMuNXB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/jVtAtJU.jpg


Originally posted by carver9
She would try to engage him because her mind attack isn't working unless we use Hulk at his lowest. He would power through her attacks and eventually ko her for the win. Only if you ignore the other massively powerful psi abilities at her disposal(namely TK and shielding.)

Hulk punch through shields. Shields that even Excalibur couldn't cut. Anyways, why are you posting her fight against Doomsday? Are you implying that Hulk couldn't land a lick or do well against DOS? Especially based off what he has done in his yrs of comics.

Originally posted by Galan007
Maxima on the other hand...

http://i.imgur.com/3jLHhSE.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/efMuNXB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/jVtAtJU.jpg


Only if you ignore the other massively powerful psi abilities at her disposal(namely TK and shielding.)


What she doing nu 52?

Originally posted by carver9
Anyways, why are you posting her fight against Doomsday? cdtm mentioned Bloodwynd/J'onn not being able to so much as stagger DD, which makes it even more impressive that Maxima was able to rock the shit out of him h2h. That's all.

No need to go on the defensive, lol.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
What she doing nu 52? She appeared in a few issues of Supergirl, as a member of the 'Crucible Academy'. She was quite different than her pre-Flashpoint self, to say the least.

...And also a lesbian.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk punch through shields. Shields that even Excalibur couldn't cut. Anyways, why are you posting her fight against Doomsday? Are you implying that Hulk couldn't land a lick or do well against DOS? Especially based off what he has done in his yrs of comics.

When?

Are you using the latest incarnation of Hulk?

Because,well.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When?

Are you using the latest incarnation of Hulk?

Because,well.....

I'm using Hulk. The character that is in this thread. He punch her lights out with his planetary strength.

facepalm

Ok, Sun lifting strength.

Me being serious, Hulk has endured what Maxima can and has dished out. Hulk also powered through planetary forces (bringing this up just in case you mention her closing her cracked planet). Her TP is negated, TK is negated. She honestly doesn't have anything she can throw at Hulk that will not make him more powerful.

Originally posted by Galan007
cdtm mentioned Bloodwynd/J'onn not being able to so much as stagger DD, which makes it even more impressive that Maxima was able to rock the shit out of him h2h. That's all.

No need to go on the defensive, lol.

She appeared in a few issues of Supergirl, as a member of the 'Crucible Academy'. She was quite different than her pre-Flashpoint self, to say the least.

...And also a lesbian.


I know of that i thought theyd done more. The whole lesbian angle was foreseeable and lame imo.

Originally posted by carver9
Ok, Sun lifting strength.

Me being serious, Hulk has endured what Maxima can and has dished out. Hulk also powered through planetary forces (bringing this up just in case you mention her closing her cracked planet). Her TP is negated, TK is negated. She honestly doesn't have anything she can throw at Hulk that will not make him more powerful.

Lowball much?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I know of that i thought theyd done more. The whole lesbian angle was foreseeable and lame imo. Yeah, that scene was gag-inducing:
http://i.imgur.com/NfUzQkV.jpg

She beats him so bad his healing factor gets overload. Maxima for the solid majority

Originally posted by mighty adam
She beats him so bad his healing factor gets overload. Maxima for the solid majority

Who overloaded Hulk healing factor for you to say such things, Hulk troll?

Maxima mind phucks

Maxima is FTL speed since she has tagged Superman and Doomsday. Hulk is nowhere NEAR that speeds. Am right, Carver??

Originally posted by carver9
Who overloaded Hulk healing factor for you to say such things, Hulk troll?

Skaar. Zeus.

Off the top of my head.

Originally posted by cdtm
Skaar. Zeus.

Off the top of my head.

Scans of Skaar over loading it. Zeus shut his healing factor off.

Originally posted by Zack M
Maxima is FTL speed since she has tagged Superman and Doomsday. Hulk is nowhere NEAR that speeds. Am right, Carver??

Hulk is 100 times the speed of light. He tagged Gladiator. He is probably faster than that. He tagged Surfer who was flying past Galaxies in a blur. Love the way you debate Zack. You're the best.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk is 100 times the speed of light. He tagged Gladiator. He is probably faster than that. He tagged Surfer who was flying past Galaxies in a blur. Love the way you debate Zack. You're the best.

Gladiator wouldn't even be in the top 50 DC's speedsters.

Originally posted by Zack M
Gladiator wouldn't even be in the top 50 DC's speedsters.

What does that have to do with your question?

Originally posted by carver9
What does that have to do with your question?

Hulk won't even see Maxima, dude. She's too fast.

Originally posted by Zack M
Hulk won't even see Maxima, dude. She's too fast.

Why is she too fast?

Originally posted by carver9
Why is she too fast?

FTL speeds.

Hulk beats her to death

Originally posted by carver9
Zeus shut his healing factor off.

Originally posted by Zack M
Gladiator wouldn't even be in the top 50 DC's speedsters.

He isn't even top 50 in Marvel.

He's 51.

Thor is 52.





Wolverine is 50.

Originally posted by iceman24567
it's sad ain't it, lying to that extent.

It was even explained that Hulk had been beaten that badly his HF couldn't work.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
it's sad ain't it, lying to that extent.

It was even explained that Hulk had been beaten that badly his HF couldn't work. Yup carvers lying and hypocrisy is just trolling at this point i cant stop myself from laughing

Originally posted by iceman24567


Did you read the story or are you just trolling?

Originally posted by Zack M
Gladiator wouldn't even be in the top 50 DC's speedsters.

He actually would be, but okay.

Originally posted by carver9
Did you read the story or are you just trolling? Says the guy that deliberately ignores what actually happened in the story so he can interpret it in anyway his fanboy brain wants

Originally posted by iceman24567
Says the guy that deliberately ignores what actually happened in the story so he can interpret it in anyway his fanboy brain wants

So you didn't read the story. Next time, just ask why a person is saying what they are saying instead of trolling a thread. Maybe you'll learn something since we both know you don't read anything involving Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
So you didn't read the story. Next time, just ask why a person is saying what they are saying instead of trolling a thread. Maybe you'll learn something since we both know you don't read anything involving Hulk. Why would I ask a liar anything? While Hulk was getting his guts eaten it was stated that his healing was taxed because of Zeus nothing about it being turned off nice try though. We all know you only recently started reading comics after asking where you could illegally download them

Originally posted by iceman24567
Why would I ask a liar anything? While Hulk was getting his guts eaten it was stated that his healing was taxed because of Zeus nothing about it being turned off nice try though. We all know you only recently started reading comics after asking where you could illegally download them

Scans of it saying his healing factor was taxed. Iceman, I know you don't read comics...it's freaking obvious. I want to see that scan though of it mentioning Zeus taxing his healing factor.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Why would I ask a liar anything? While Hulk was getting his guts eaten it was stated that his healing was taxed because of Zeus nothing about it being turned off nice try though. We all know you only recently started reading comics after asking where you could illegally download them

Carver said Aquaman, Deathstroke, and Frankenstein are FTL speed since they tagged the Flash. dude is going crazy.

Originally posted by Zack M
Carver said Aquaman, Deathstroke, and Frankenstein are FTL speed since they tagged the Flash. dude is going crazy.

You forgot your add Hulk. He is 100 times the speed of light. You asked why Slade hit Diana, so I told you.

Originally posted by carver9
Scans of it saying his healing factor was taxed. Iceman, I know you don't read comics...it's freaking obvious. I want to see that scan though of it mentioning Zeus taxing his healing factor. Says the guy that was ecstatic when he was given a way to download comics he doesn't own the irony . The words that were used iirc "its because of father Zeus" nothing as specific as Zeus shutting his healing off.

Originally posted by Zack M
Carver said Aquaman, Deathstroke, and Frankenstein are FTL speed since they tagged the Flash. dude is going crazy. He's been nuts for years now

IMO, Zeus didn't turn it off. Because if he did, how did Hulk turn it back on? And why didn't he do so in battle (remember, this is the guy who went from puny Banner into 'cracking the Eastern Seaboard with a footstep' mode in a split second when against the Sentry)? Why didn't he break free? He doesn't WANT to be chained there - you can even see him trying to break free ('you can't break these chains, beast' 'make me mad enough' CLNK).

You can even see his fear in the last panel, as the vultures descend. He didn't want to be there.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/3320344-2978433-02-10-11%2B01%2B18.jpg

Nowhere does it say his HF was turned off. Nowhere have I ever seen anyone turning Hulk's HF off, nor have I seen Zeus have that ability.

Even if he did turn his healing off (which he didn't) he beat the shit out of him first it makes no sense to neuter himself and neuter Hulk in a fight he was trying to make somewhat fair

He just beat the crap out of him, plain and simple.

Carver will say that hulk sacrifice himself or any other crazy theories but most of us know that Zeus just beat the crap out of Hulk

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
IMO, Zeus didn't turn it off. Because if he did, how did Hulk turn it back on? And why didn't he do so in battle (remember, this is the guy who went from puny Banner into 'cracking the Eastern Seaboard with a footstep' mode in a split second when against the Sentry)? Why didn't he break free? He doesn't WANT to be chained there - you can even see him trying to break free ('you can't break these chains, beast' 'make me mad enough' CLNK).

You can even see his fear in the last panel, as the vultures descend. He didn't want to be there.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/3320344-2978433-02-10-11%2B01%2B18.jpg

Nowhere does it say his HF was turned off. Nowhere have I ever seen anyone turning Hulk's HF off, nor have I seen Zeus have that ability.

I seen that phrase (you've been hit by Zeus, you a ok nth be able to heal your wounds...) as Zeus mucking with his healing factor.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Even if he did turn his healing off (which he didn't) he beat the shit out of him first it makes no sense to neuter himself and neuter Hulk in a fight he was trying to make somewhat fair

Hulk went there as a sacrificial anyways. His intentions was to die. Try beating up on someone that is suicidal and tell me how that goes.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113173/3924200-02-10-11+01+15.jpg

Anyways, Zeus would beat Hulk regardless and have far easier work against Superman (who just got beat by a mage on the Suicide Squad with ease and was almost near death during the end).

Originally posted by carver9
I seen that phrase (you've been hit by Zeus, you a ok nth be able to heal your wounds...) as Zeus mucking with his healing factor.

But Zeus has never shown that ability before - to shut people's powers off, or to shut HFs off.

Nor has anyone ever done it to Hulk before. No one has just shut his HF off like that, to my knowledge.

Whereas we know HFs can be overtaxed - it's just a matter of damage level. And the fact it took a Skyfather to do so, isn't exactly a low showing for Hulk, lol.

Just let carver to live in his own little world, it's fun for everyone to read his mental gymnastics

Don't you see it?

Hulk sacrifice himself to Zeus and Zeus also shut down Hulk's strength and HF.

This is the same as when Grey Hulk faced SunGod and it comes from the same wacko source.

Hulk is Hulk, makes sense

Originally posted by carver9
I seen that phrase (you've been hit by Zeus, you a ok nth be able to heal your wounds...) as Zeus mucking with his healing factor. Strange. I seen that phrase as Zeus making Hulk pregnant.

mmm

Originally posted by Galan007
Strange. I seen that phrase as Zeus making Hulk pregnant.

mmm

WHO TO TRUST????

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Don't you see it?

Hulk sacrifice himself to Zeus and Zeus also shut down Hulk's strength and HF.

Where is that "Gamma Father" pic when you need it?

http://rs279.pbsrc.com/albums/kk126/dynomite8188/Hulk_Catholic.jpg~c200

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
http://rs279.pbsrc.com/albums/kk126/dynomite8188/Hulk_Catholic.jpg~c200

This thread is Carver trolls via Maxima vs Carver's ability to argue for Hulk

It's clear as day, Hulks HF didn't get turned off. He just got stomped that bad his HF wouldn't work.

I've recently noticed that it's a lot of people on KMC who intentionally trolls me. My manly self. I wonder why I never put the energy into doing such things? I guess adulthood is a reason. One of the reasons.

Don't give yourself too much credit.

You are just fun to laugh at.

Could be. I just don't waste energy trolling a person on KMC. I think I've "grown" past such things.

Originally posted by carver9
Could be. I just don't waste energy trolling a person on KMC. I think I've "grown" past such things.

Don't worry about it, You troll kmc in other ways

Zeus raped Hulk. Then Zeus turned into a bird and raped Hulk.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Don't worry about it, You troll kmc in other ways

As long as I don't troll men, I'm good.

Originally posted by carver9
As long as I don't troll men, I'm good.

Most of us on kmc are men

Water is wet.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Most of us on kmc are men this is just his excuse "everyone trolls me" so he can flat out lie and be a hypocrite because he thinks he's above everyone because all the whole board is always wrong.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
this is just his excuse "everyone trolls me" so he can flat out lie and be a hypocrite because he thinks he's above everyone because all the whole board is always wrong.

Yes and no

Insane is a trip. He thrives for attention.

Originally posted by carver9
Insane is a trip. He thrives for attention.

He's right though. U do play the "everyone trolls me" card. Where he's wrong is that you always lie. Misconstrue shit yea but lie no, i wouldnt call u a liar. Fanboying has its levels too.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
He's right though. U do play the "everyone trolls me" card. Where he's wrong is that you always lie. Misconstrue shit yea but lie no, i wouldnt call u a liar. Fanboying has its levels too.

So you don't think people troll me? Let me know so that I can post obvious troll made threads.

Originally posted by carver9
So you don't think people troll me? Let me know so that I can post obvious troll made threads.

Is this the kind of troll thread you're talking about?

Originally posted by carver9
So you don't think people troll me? Let me know so that I can post obvious troll made threads.

Troll threads or bait threads? This thread is a bait thread. You ALWAYS fall for bait threads. Dos jl vs wwh is a prime example. Because you're gonna run in there and post hulk stomps and all hell will break lose. People do troll u but its usually for a reason.

He earns every minute of it

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Troll threads or bait threads? This thread is a bait thread. You ALWAYS fall for bait threads. Dos jl vs wwh is a prime example. Because you're gonna run in there and post hulk stomps and all hell will break lose. People do troll u but its usually for a reason.

Hhhhhmmm...well, at least you noticed it.

Originally posted by carver9
Insane is a trip. He thrives for attention. irony and again it's never you who's wrong or at fault is it.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Troll threads or bait threads? This thread is a bait thread. You ALWAYS fall for bait threads. Dos jl vs wwh is a prime example. Because you're gonna run in there and post hulk stomps and all hell will break lose. People do troll u but its usually for a reason.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
This thread is a bait thread. This thread was made back in 2007. Doubt it was geared toward the carvster in any way/shape/form.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
IMO, Zeus didn't turn it off. Because if he did, how did Hulk turn it back on? And why didn't he do so in battle (remember, this is the guy who went from puny Banner into 'cracking the Eastern Seaboard with a footstep' mode in a split second when against the Sentry)? Why didn't he break free? He doesn't WANT to be chained there - you can even see him trying to break free ('you can't break these chains, beast' 'make me mad enough' CLNK).

You can even see his fear in the last panel, as the vultures descend. He didn't want to be there.

*Big ass scan*

Nowhere does it say his HF was turned off. Nowhere have I ever seen anyone turning Hulk's HF off, nor have I seen Zeus have that ability. That scene was a homage to the torture of Prometheus and probably falls under magic more than anything else. His healing factor only being enough for his organs to be back in order for the Raptors to pick at them indefinitely is straight out of Greek myth.

Originally posted by Galan007
This thread was made back in 2007. Doubt it was geared toward the carvster in any way/shape/form.

lol...sure galan. rao just bumped this ghost thread because he was curious who was gonna win. bait...plain in simple, he just used old lure.

Rao may have bumped the thread to bait carv, but the thread itself isn't a troll thread.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
That scene was a homage to the torture of Prometheus and probably falls under magic more than anything else. His healing factor only being enough for his organs to be back in order for the Raptors to pick at them indefinitely is straight out of Greek myth.

I get where it is coming from, I understand the homage. One of the first encounters I had with carver was whether the Muramasa blade would be enough to stop Hulk's healing factor, being mystical and all. Carver was all set to bring me those scans proving Hulk could fight against it; guess history dictated otherwise.

Well, Zeus' power is sky-father level and the last time he did that torture thing it was done to a Titan, a human sized one but a Titan nonetheless. Multiple forms of healing factor dampening maneuvers were used on Hulk during WWH so the blade working on him flawlessly is at least debatable even if it is magical as well

Originally posted by Galan007
Rao may have bumped the thread to bait carv, but the thread itself isn't a troll thread.

meh tomayto, tomahto

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Well, Zeus' power is sky-father level and the last time he did that torture thing it was done to a Titan, a human sized one but a Titan nonetheless. Multiple forms of healing factor dampening maneuvers were used on Hulk during WWH so the blade working on him flawlessly is at least debatable even if it is magical as well

Yah.

Main point of that was that I didn't see anything about Zeus 'switching' the HF off.

Especially as it wasn't turned off.

wasn't the Muramasa used on Skaar?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah.

Main point of that was that I didn't see anything about Zeus 'switching' the HF off.

Especially as it wasn't turned off. His power was reduced from that event until this moment several issues later:

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_h_zpszodus0tx.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_h2_zpsumvr25gv.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_h3_zpskdigmp7l.jpg

His strength, durability and healing were reduced from whatever Zeus "hit" him with


Hulk punching a roided out Zeus sending him reeling while holding back is more indicative of a true feat considering Zeus is capable of weakening his opponents

Originally posted by psycho gundam
His power was reduced from that event until this moment several issues later:


His strength, durability and healing were reduced from whatever Zeus "hit" him with



I think carver's point is that it wasn't a cumulation of damage, but that Zeus magically turned his HF off.

Both

Originally posted by psycho gundam
His power was reduced from that event until this moment several issues later:

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_h_zpszodus0tx.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_h2_zpsumvr25gv.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_h3_zpskdigmp7l.jpg

His strength, durability and healing were reduced from whatever Zeus "hit" him with


Hulk punching a roided out Zeus sending him reeling while holding back is more indicative of a true feat considering Zeus is capable of weakening his opponents


was it supposed to state that there?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Both

There is proof of it being turned off? I keep asking, but you know how it is...

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_hkh_zpswpiai6gy.jpg

Definitely confirmed to be reduced after Zeus. Was it specifically "taken away"? I can't say that

Maybe I misrepresented myself.

Did Zeus turn it off by means of a spell that switched it off, or did he overload it so badly with his physical damage that it became useless?

Like WWH overloading Wolverine with punches. Yes, he turned Wolvys HF off, but not with a spell or anything, just good old fashioned damage.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I get where it is coming from, I understand the homage. One of the first encounters I had with carver was whether the Muramasa blade would be enough to stop Hulk's healing factor, being mystical and all. Carver was all set to bring me those scans proving Hulk could fight against it; guess history dictated otherwise.

You was hit by Zeus (singular), your healing factor...

It's obvious Zeus magic had play in it. He didn't heal from a single attack during and after Zeus hit him with that bolt of lightning.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Maybe I misrepresented myself.

Did Zeus turn it off by means of a spell that switched it off, or did he overload it so badly with his physical damage that it became useless?

Like WWH overloading Wolverine with punches. Yes, he turned Wolvys HF off, but not with a spell or anything, just good old fashioned damage. I can't say that without a shadow of a doubt since it never explicitly stated as such, but it's safe to say it wasn't legit as his healing factor was reduced to 7% (other powers reduced to unknown levels) but it then came back 3 issues later repairing all his injuries even though his healing factor was gone. Him regaining his powers wasn't under his control, he even stated that he needed to stay angry in order to remain alive enough to not succumb to having a gaping chest wound, a wound completely fixed the instant the "curse" was lifted

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I think it's because a lot of the time TK is portrayed as like an "invisible hand" in comics, so bricks have a way to break free of it.

Which is completely stupid

Maxima will take this absent massive CIS

LOL at the bolt of lightning shutting off his healing carver will say anything to keep Hulk on that pedestal

His healing factor was 7% of it's normal level. If that's not indicative of something other than simply pummeling someone into submission I don't know what is.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Maybe I misrepresented myself.

Did Zeus turn it off by means of a spell that switched it off, or did he overload it so badly with his physical damage that it became useless?

Like WWH overloading Wolverine with punches. Yes, he turned Wolvys HF off, but not with a spell or anything, just good old fashioned damage. Didn't actually address this

He overloaded the amount of damage his healing factor could fix at the time given the level of brain damage he had. Wolverine's healing factor wasn't reduced it just had a larger task to correct

Originally posted by iceman24567
LOL at the bolt of lightning shutting off his healing carver will say anything to keep Hulk on that pedestal

True

The scene detailing Hulk being smote and cursed by Zeus

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Very next issue you see Hulk post ZeusOriginally posted by psycho gundam
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_hkh_zpswpiai6gy.jpg

She-hulk broke the chains btw.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
She-hulk broke the chains btw.

W8, wut?

Originally posted by Galan007
Rao may have bumped the thread to bait carv, but the thread itself isn't a troll thread.

It was a good thread in anycase and worth revisiting with the current Maxima trend.

Baiting Carver was just an added bonus.

Terrible.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
W8, wut?

She broke Hulk free from chains he couldn't get out of.

Originally posted by carver9
She broke Hulk free from chains he couldn't get out of.

From Hephaestus' chains?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
His healing factor was 7% of it's normal level. If that's not indicative of something other than simply pummeling someone into submission I don't know what is.

Didn't actually address this

He overloaded the amount of damage his healing factor could fix at the time given the level of brain damage he had. Wolverine's healing factor wasn't reduced it just had a larger task to correct

and I guess the view from some is that Zeus overloaded the amount of damage Hulk's HF could fix.

Again, no low showing - Zeus is a skyfather, after all.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
W8, wut? I skipped a page since it wasn't relevant but here

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_p5_zpsvn0kcwwu.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
and I guess the view from some is that Zeus overloaded the amount of damage Hulk's HF could fix.

Again, no low showing - Zeus is a skyfather, after all. The difference here is the Zeus knew how long it would take for Hulk to recover even though Hulk's powers include nigh-instantaneous healing. The only way he can know when he'd heal is if he's the one that's retarding it.

EDIT* Zom-strange punched a large hole through his torso but it was healed within a couple panels

Originally posted by psycho gundam
The difference here is the Zeus knew how long it would take for Hulk to recover even though Hulk's powers include nigh-instantaneous healing. The only way he can know when he'd heal is if he's the one that's retarding it.

EDIT* Zom-strange punched a large hole through his torso but it was healed within a couple panels

I always read it as Zeus having faith in his own ability to mash the Hulk up. I've never for example seen Hulk puke his guts up like that after anyone punched him.

Hulk went up there to get a miracle to help his family so he's aware Zeus has magical powers that can do things nobody else he knows can do. I'm in no way denying Zeus beat the piss out of him, it's just that there is context being ignored a lot more

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Hulk went up there to get a miracle to help his family so he's aware Zeus has magical powers that can do things nobody else he knows can do.

Like, overload Hulk's HF so badly with damage, it would be months before he could recover?

That's the thing, we're just going around in circles. As you say, you don't have any concrete proof to say with certainty - and to be honest, neither do I.

All I have going for me, is that I have never seen Zeus have a anti-HF spell, nor have I seen Hulk's HF being 'switched off' (or dampened for months).