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Merged MJJ (post resurrection, merged with Fury) versus Galactus from Black Celestial arc after consuming an entire universe (in other words if he hadn't decided to destroy himself with the UN), who starts off with his UN in hand.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/mjj0.jpg

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/timebubblegalactus2.jpg

Fight takes place in a neutral reality limited to one universe, existing outside of the multiverse that encompasses 616.

Jaspers.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Merged MJJ (post resurrection, merged with Fury) versus Galactus from Black Celestial arc after consuming an entire universe (in other words if he hadn't decided to destroy himself with the UN), who starts off with his UN in hand.

Fight takes place in a neutral reality limited to one universe, existing outside of the multiverse that encompasses 616.

Jaspers for the easy win.

Nullification is useless against Jaspers.
And that's the only option Galactus would have (shoot Jaspers with the UN)

If Galactus nullifies the Universe Galactus is in, Galactus nullfies himself,
while Jaspers survives. (MJJ ftw by default)


On the other hand, since this a merged Jaspers/Fury,
even if it was plausible for Galactus to survive the nullification of said Universe,
(which he cannot, according to the History of the UN then and Now)

Jaspers would still have Fury's abilities,
And Fury is more durable than Galactus, (including complete immunity to nullification)
so Jaspers can withstand anything Galactus hits him with other than the UN,
plus Warp him into anything he wishes. (since Galactus is Reality)

The reason Jaspers couldn't Warp Fury in Un-Space,
is because Fury was basically immune to Reality manipulation.

Why Jaspers couldn't use his own body though as Reality is a mystery (maybe PIS)
Or perhaps there wasn't enough substance to work with in his single body,
or perhaps he can only use outside material (other than his body I mean)
to Warp Reality.

I'm not too sure, but I'm reviewing my comics as we speak.

Originally posted by Mr Master
or perhaps he can only use outside material (other than his body I mean)
to Warp Reality. If you examine the final issue, this seems to be the reason why Fury's BFR dump into Un-Space was successful.

teh big g loses

Originally posted by Galan007
If you examine the final issue, this seems to be the reason why Fury's BFR dump into Un-Space was successful.

That was my top guess.

You know what's interesting G?

Alot of us have been using BFR as a means to defeat Jaspers,
but technically, that doesn't make him powerless.

He can still Warp his opponent (Reality) just as easily as anything else.

It was Fury that Jaspers couldn't Warp with effect, which made Jaspers powerless.


This observation is a revelation imo, and a counter to the BFR move.
(unless it's Fury ofcourse who's actually immune)


What do you think G?

How can you say that Fury is 100% immune? Because Jasper did directly warp Fury a couple of times (Turned it into a sphere, Took over one of it's tentacles...), so why couldn't he do it again? I mean, what was Jasper really doing besides shapeshifting?

Originally posted by Mr Master
That was my top guess.

You know what's interesting G?

Alot of us have been using BFR as a means to defeat Jaspers,
but technically, that doesn't make him powerless.

He can still Warp his opponent (Reality) just as easily as anything else.

It was Fury that Jaspers couldn't Warp with effect, which made Jaspers powerless.


This observation is a revelation imo, and a counter to the BFR move.
(unless it's Fury ofcourse who's actually immune)

What do you think G? Very true! That's something most of us probably forget.


But one could make the argument that,
A character wouldn't have to kill Jaspers in Un-Space to get the win, by forum rules.

ie. said character could just BFR MJJ, and MJJ alone, to Un-Space in order to get the win.. .

The way I look at it is,
If Jaspers could have teleported out of Un-Space by himself, he would have -- I'm sure JJ didn't particularly want Fury to fry his brain, lol.

Originally posted by King Kandy
How can you say that Fury is 100% immune?

First, I'm not the one saying it,

Marvel is the one stating this to be fact:

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/3931/f1ts5.th.jpg
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 - Fury - bio)


http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8502/f2qd0.th.jpg
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 - Jaspers bio)

Originally posted by King Kandy
Because Jasper did directly warp Fury a couple of times
(Turned it into a sphere, Took over one of it's tentacles...),

Not quite.

Jaspers Warped Fury once, and once only:


Here's the enitre fight:

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/4544/2ny2.th.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4783/3dn8.th.jpg


This is the ONLY time Jaspers Warped Fury,
when that didn't work,
they fought hand to hand, ripping into each other:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9136/4vr9.th.jpg


The battle is all physical combat the rest of the way:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/300/5si5.th.jpg

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9126/7st0.th.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9175/8qc9.th.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/876/9qm7.th.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5836/10xd8.th.jpg

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/6886/11jh4.th.jpg


Originally posted by King Kandy
so why couldn't he do it again?

Cause as you can see above, it was useless.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I mean, what was Jasper really doing besides shapeshifting?

Evidently alot, see scans above.

^^
That fight scene = One of the best 2 character battles in Marvel's history, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
Very true! That's something most of us probably forget.



Originally posted by Galan007
But one could make the argument that,
A character wouldn't have to kill Jaspers in Un-Space to get the win, by forum rules.

ie. said character could just BFR MJJ, and MJJ alone, to Un-Space in order to get the win.. .

Makes sense.

Originally posted by Galan007
The way I look at it is,
If Jaspers could have teleported out of Un-Space by himself, he would have -- I'm sure JJ didn't particularly want Fury to fry his brain, lol.

It's not in Jaspers' powerset to teleport from outside his Warp.


But this is Jaspers/Fury merged.

And Fury became a master in the teleportation business after he absorbed that CPU.

Originally posted by Mr Master
But this is Jaspers/Fury merged. Ohh,
I was under the impression we were talking solely about JJ, .

Originally posted by Mr Master
And Fury became a master in the teleportation business after he absorbed that CPU. One of the best in comic-dom.