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Quanchi came to Herochat and informed us that he was getting together battlezones for board to board debates. I volunteered to have a BZ. So anybody interested?

What character are you representing?

Hes representing Genis vs a Superman backer.

I have been trying but so far avlon and batdude here have turned it down. I even created a thread to find someone but so far no one has come forward.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hes representing Genis vs a Superman backer.

Depends on the Genis. And depends on the superman.

Im impressed with your eagerness mexican and how you really want to do this. Takes balls man and im glad to see you here. We will find someone Im sure but it wont be as easy as I previously thought.

I heard that batdude likes Superman...

For christ's sake, please don't let Nvr represent KMC's interests....

Originally posted by Soljer
For christ's sake, please don't let Nvr represent KMC's interests.... What about T-Priest?

Originally posted by Soljer
For christ's sake, please don't let Nvr represent KMC's interests....

Must you be an ass ALL of the time? I don't even like superman.

Originally posted by Bransolute
What about T-Priest?

I don't know which would be worse.

Originally posted by Bransolute
I heard that batdude likes Superman... Avlon told me to ask him. I did and he said he wasnt interested. Besides juntai who else is there that really knows superman on here.

sirius

Originally posted by quanchi112
Avlon told me to ask him. I did and he said he wasnt interested. Besides juntai who else is there that really knows superman on here. A lot of people know Superman... not a lot care to argue for him.

Originally posted by Bransolute
A lot of people know Superman... not a lot care to argue for him.

Indeed.

Originally posted by Soljer
For christ's sake, please don't let Nvr represent KMC's interests.... We should get Spet in here...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Avlon told me to ask him. I did and he said he wasnt interested. Besides juntai who else is there that really knows superman on here.

Guys, I'll do it.

Originally posted by Bransolute
We should get Spet in here...

He's in Africa currently...hard for him to find a place to post much

Originally posted by Blair Wind
He's in Africa currently...hard for him to find a place to post much Ah, didn't know that.
Who's the next best debater then?

Originally posted by KK the Great
Guys, I'll do it. Ok I guess but arent you from herochat? Works for me becuz no kmcer seemed interested here.

i would like to do it but i just dont like the two characters

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i would like to do it but i just dont like the two characters I think kk will do it. It will be two herochatters duking it out here so I guess if this happens we can pick judges here as it wont spill into a huge interforum flame war.

What's the point then? I can argue with KK on Herochat. KMCer's come on!

Doesn't have to be Superman. How about Martian Manhunter, Silver Surfer, Post Crisis Darkseid, Thor, Gladiator. . .

Originally posted by The Mexican
What's the point then? I can argue with KK on Herochat. KMCer's come on!

Doesn't have to be Superman. How about Martian Manhunter, Silver Surfer, Post Crisis Darkseid, Thor, Gladiator. . . Oh thank God. More characters Im sure someone will argue for Darkseid. Hell if no one does any of these matchups Ill represent Darkseid. Ill wait and see if anyone else will come forward but if not I will be who you face and I will represent Darkseid.

Fair enough. As I said, anyone, make an offer, step up.

Originally posted by The Mexican
What's the point then? I can argue with KK on Herochat. KMCer's come on!

Doesn't have to be Superman. How about Martian Manhunter, Silver Surfer, Post Crisis Darkseid, Thor, Gladiator. . . Not that I'm interested, but what Genis are we talking about here?

Come on kmc represent. But dont worry mexican if no one is interested becuz this can be taxing on you Ill step up. Dammit Im going to be battlezoned out here if I have to step in.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Come on kmc represent. But dont worry mexican if no one is interested becuz this can be taxing on you Ill step up. Dammit Im going to be battlezoned out here if I have to step in.

im in

Originally posted by psycho gundam
im in Who do you want to represent? Which of the characters he named against his genis?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who do you want to represent? Which of the characters he named against his genis?

Best bet against Genis would be a high tier energy wielder.

Classic Takion
Auron
New Ion if he gets some good Feats
Sentinal
Ares
Starbreaker
Hank Henshaw
Kyle Rayner star heart GL
Blue superman
Imp triumph
Ect.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Best bet against Genis would be a high tier energy wielder.

Classic Takion
Auron
New Ion if he gets some good Feats
Sentinal
Ares
Starbreaker
Hank Henshaw
Kyle Rayner star heart GL
Blue superman
Imp triumph
Ect. Do you want to do it?

get avlon to argue hank henshaw

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you want to do it?

I know next to nothing about Genis. I can't do it.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Not that I'm interested, but what Genis are we talking about here? I'd say Photon.

Originally posted by Kurash
get avlon to argue hank henshaw I asked him to argue for superman and he said this isnt his thing.

what character level . also this dude thinks hulk is more powerful then superman..................

Originally posted by Battlehammer
what character level . also this dude thinks hulk is more powerful then superman..................

As he just mentioned, Photon Genis.

oh my bad . not a fan of those levels.

Aren't alot of us going to be busy with Illadelph's low meta mixed genre amalgam tournament, that starts this friday?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
what character level . also this dude thinks hulk is more powerful then superman.................. I said WORLD WAR HULK was more powerful than Superman. Is all you guys do, attack ad hominem?

Originally posted by The Mexican
I said WORLD WAR HULK was more powerful than Superman. Is all you guys do, attack ad hominem?

You're still wrong. No version of Hulk is a match for Superman.

Originally posted by The Mexican
I said WORLD WAR HULK was more powerful than Superman. Is all you guys do, attack ad hominem?

Nah. Battlehammer does tend to ignore a thing or two, though, like the fact that you're representing Photon Genis. ( ).

However, your claim has absolutely no base what so ever. .

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You're still wrong. No version of Hulk is a match for Superman. Did you read ww hulk?

Im up for a battlezone for Genis vs Superman.

Originally posted by Photon009
Im up for a battlezone for Genis vs Superman. Serioulsy pm me if your serious. Ill contact the mexican and then all you fellas have to do is set up a date.

And iron out the rules of your debate of course.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Serioulsy pm me if your serious. Ill contact the mexican and then all you fellas have to do is set up a date.

No, you dont get it, i'd be on Mexican (All That Jazz's) side, backing Genis, against anyone here from KMC.

Hmm u got Photon who controls photons, against superman who is powered by photons

Originally posted by Photon009
No, you dont get it, i'd be on Mexican (All That Jazz's) side, backing Genis, against anyone here from KMC. Well this is supposed to be a one on one debate here. So youll have to wait to express your opinion until the time is up and the debate is over.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well this is supposed to be a one on one debate here. So youll have to wait to express your opinion until the time is up and the debate is over.

Why not 2 on 2? Not complaining, i just think 2 on 2 or 3 on 3 would be a bit better. 1 person alone representing an entire forum doesnt make much sense...

Originally posted by Photon009
Why not 2 on 2? Not complaining, i just think 2 on 2 or 3 on 3 would be a bit better. 1 person alone representing an entire forum doesnt make much sense... I cant find one person from kmc to represent any character yet. If i could find two who would agree id do it but right now I cant find one person yet. It prolly wont be against superman anyways. It looks like it will be photon vs someone else.

Well just do Photon against a character that people here like. Darksied would be good, and it wouldnt be hard to find 2 people to represent him here either...

People don't really like Darkseid here. Just Nvr and Trick.

Originally posted by Soljer
People don't really like Darkseid here. Just Nvr and Trick.

Well then somebody else. Darkseid was just a suggestion.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You're still wrong. No version of Hulk is a match for Superman. Well, that's your opinion. You're not backing up that claim.

C'mon. There has got to be one person, two people even. I don't care really, If you're not familiar with one character, tag team with someone else who is.

Photon009, you're welcome to join if there is to people on each side.

Meh.

A different character than Genis will garner a heavier response.

I'm sure.

Hulk v.s Superman, Face me, and lose, I dare ya, Superman can't touch him

Meh, it's largely due to the fact that nobody around here underrates him, and the people who would engage you in matches (or have offered to so far), really shouldn't rep KMC as a whole.

Cosmics are fine, but Genis isn't an apt one if you're looking for a huge response.

Originally posted by MottaFan001
Hulk v.s Superman, Face me, and lose, I dare ya, Superman can't touch him No, superman can't. lol

I don't wish to have the phrase "speedblitz!111one11!!" taking up bandwidth on my comp'. I don't think Hulk could beat Superman more often than not anyway. Now, World War Hulk would be another matter. Not that any of this is relevant.


I told Quanchi. I'll argue for Ghost Rider, Spiderman, Venom, Thanos. . .Against any of their piers.

Originally posted by The Mexican
I said WORLD WAR HULK was more powerful than Superman. Is all you guys do, attack ad hominem?

........your rediculous. wwh has done nothing that would suggest he could beat superman or that he is even close to his power

Originally posted by Battlehammer
........your rediculous. wwh has done nothing that would suggest he could beat superman or that he is even close to his power

Look, we nuanced HC debaters can't be handicapped by the fact that you lot have yet to evolve beyond simplistic feat comparisons.

How bout Thanos (HC) vs Darkseid (KMC), 2 on 2?

Originally posted by KK the Great
Look, we nuanced HC debaters can't be handicapped by the fact that you lot have yet to evolve beyond simplistic feat comparisons.

dur

Originally posted by KK the Great
Look, we nuanced HC debaters can't be handicapped by the fact that you lot have yet to evolve beyond simplistic feat comparisons.
so your bias morons that can't see beyond your bias to the logical out come?


I mean I been to hero chat it a joke.

I hate superman and I like the hulk, but im not some bias moron who actaully thinking the hulk stands a chance when he has no superior stats and is far less superior in many area's when compared with superman.

Originally posted by Photon009
How bout Thanos (HC) vs Darkseid (KMC), 2 on 2?
no one cares about darkseid here and the ones that do we don't want representing kmc.


now if you were gunna do street levers to mid tier's then you find your self a debate

Originally posted by Battlehammer
so your bias morrons that can't see byond your bias to the ligcal out come?

We've just moved onto more nuanced, reasoned debate methodology.

And it isn't as though we're unfamiliar with how you guys do things. We recognize it as being exactly what we used to do--seven or eight years ago--before we grew into the comic industry intellectuals you see today.

We're like your comic board parents, or the previous generation or something. We see our younger selves in you, but you don't want to hear anything of it. Kids never do, no matter how much they stand to learn from their parents. Sometimes they just have to grow on their own, making all the same mistakes their parents made years prior.

If I may offer a comic analogy...

We're the Immortus to your Kang.

............so you simply avoid direct questions how wonderful.


first of all I been a member of hero chat for years.

second of all the way you do things are complete ignore evidence or simply don't present evidence at all.

so by evolving you mean devolving then I guess your right.


oh and give me one good reason hulk beats superman.

I can debate alot of characters, the guys from HC (Mexican, KK, etc), and the guys from KMC just take your picks and we can have a nice debate, preferably 2 on 2 or 3 on 3. Mexican or KK just agree with me on whatever characters your good at, and we can have a debate with them, they pick a character, etc.

The Thing, Hyperion, Gladiator, Firelord, Genis, Morg, Wonder Man, Hercules, Wolverine, Iron Fist, Human Torch, the Sentry, Atlas, Thanos, Shang Chi, Luke Cage, GL John Stewart, Drax, Captain Marvel (DC), Invisible Woman, etc

edit need to talk with forum first

Ask your questions in the thread.

Originally posted by Photon009
Ask your questions in the thread.
no it off topic and i get a warning for it

Originally posted by Battlehammer
............so you simply avoid direct questions how wonderful.

You mean that "r u guys are morawns?" bit wasn't rhetorical?




I think I would recognize your grammatical quirks if that were true.




What do you mean by present evidence?

If you mean strictly posting scans, then you need to understand that we've outgrown being capable of engaging in "scan trading" debates. With the exception of new issues, there are really no good references that we haven't all seen and discussed a thousand times over. Simply tossing up a scan and going "take that!" doesn't suffice anymore. We have to rely on our ability to argue logically and rationally within the framework of the million and one references we're all fully aware of from the start.




He doesn't.

Originally posted by KK the Great
We've just moved onto more nuanced, reasoned debate methodology.

And it isn't as though we're unfamiliar with how you guys do things. We recognize it as being exactly what we used to do--seven or eight years ago--before we grew into the comic industry intellectuals you see today.

We're like your comic board parents, or the previous generation or something. We see our younger selves in you, but you don't want to hear anything of it. Kids never do, no matter how much they stand to learn from their parents. Sometimes they just have to grow on their own, making all the same mistakes their parents made years prior.

If I may offer a comic analogy...

We're the Immortus to your Kang.

dur

Originally posted by KK the Great
You mean that "r u guys are morawns?" bit wasn't rhetorical?




I think I would recognize your grammatical quirks if that were true.




What do you mean by present evidence?

If you mean strictly posting scans, then you need to understand that we've outgrown being capable of engaging in "scan trading" debates. With the exception of new issues, there are really no good references that we haven't all seen and discussed a thousand times over. Simply tossing up a scan and going "take that!" doesn't suffice anymore. We have to rely on our ability to argue logically and rationally within the framework of the million and one references we're all fully aware of from the start.




He doesn't.

oh it true all right.


..............scann trading..........It called posting your points and then using evidence be it issue numbers , scanns to suport your post.


all you guys do there is ignore evidence and whine. also I posted a scann over there...........and no one had seen it before. so you guys don't know enarly as much as you think. You remind me of some one over there actaully.

so pritty much you guys are lazy/or don't have any evidence



so you agree hulk would get curf stomp by superman?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
oh it true all right.

..............scann trading..........It called posting your points and then using evidence be it issue numbers , scanns to suport your post.

That's brings you up to about Lesson 2 in Debate 101.

What happens when the evidence is on the table? You just keep repeating it louder and louder until someone breaks?



Yeah?

What scan was that, exactly?



Shocking.

Who could it be?

You think...

...you think maybe I remind you of me?



Sure. If he just stands his ground and slugs it out, it would be a good fight, but he has the tools necessary to tear Hulk apart if he uses them.

See, there's a problem with that idea. Even slugging it out, Superman can hit Hulk at least 10-20x for every single punch that Hulk throws. Also, he'd never hit Supes if Supes used his speed at all.

The Hulk is not capable of beat Superman because Superman is superior and that's a fact.

I really hope herochatters and kmcers always wont resort to this. Mocking the other forum in every single debate sooner or later. This thread is here so we can find someone to debate with against the mexican. Please lets keep it civil people. I know shit happens but tomorrows a new day and lets not start saying your forum sucks and mine is better. They are both different and lets leave it at that.

Originally posted by KK the Great
That's brings you up to about Lesson 2 in Debate 101.

What happens when the evidence is on the table? You just keep repeating it louder and louder until someone breaks?



Yeah?

What scan was that, exactly?



Shocking.

Who could it be?

You think...

...you think maybe I remind you of me?



Sure. If he just stands his ground and slugs it out, it would be a good fight, but he has the tools necessary to tear Hulk apart if he uses them.
..........simply you bring your evidence forth explain why it proves your character will win. You sue mroe prove to counter your oponet and then thats that. I mean if your debating some one who won't listen and ignores your prove then simply stop debating in that topic or ignore him. I mean if you clearly show your points and abck it with evidence people will side with you.


wolverine beating DD in h2h combat.


well if you have the same name there then no. actaully most of hero chat has your superior then thou attitude yet when a debate happens............well they fall short of there prosona.

even if they slugged it out............superman could hit hulk 100 times before hulk could react.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I really hope herochatters and kmcers always wont resort to this. Mocking the other forum in every single debate sooner or later. This thread is here so we can find someone to debate with against the mexican. Please lets keep it civil people. I know shit happens but tomorrows a new day and lets not start saying your forum sucks and mine is better. They are both different and lets leave it at that.

.............kmc is clearly better. I mean we actaully use evidence over here............and don't cop out when asked to prove there points like some places I know cough herochat cough

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
See, there's a problem with that idea. Even slugging it out, Superman can hit Hulk at least 10-20x for every single punch that Hulk throws. Also, he'd never hit Supes if Supes used his speed at all.

Superspeed would be one of the tools I mentioned as being capable of allowing Supes to tear him apart.

When I say "slug it out," I'm not referring to a speed blitz.

I'm referring to the way 99% of all comic h2h fights actually happen.

I realize it is more difficult to enter things like "character" into consideration, but we're asking that you step up and meet us at least halfway.

Originally posted by KK the Great
Superspeed would be one of the tools I mentioned as being capable of allowing Supes to tear him apart.

When I say "slug it out," I'm not referring to a speed blitz.

I'm referring to the way 99% of all comic h2h fights actually happen.

I realize it is more difficult to enter things like "character" into consideration, but we're asking that you step up and meet us at least halfway.

you mean cis which is used in this forum unless other wise stated in the match ups. That also means hulk an idiot, then.

Originally posted by KK the Great
Superspeed would be one of the tools I mentioned as being capable of allowing Supes to tear him apart.

When I say "slug it out," I'm not referring to a speed blitz.

I'm referring to the way 99% of all comic h2h fights actually happen.

I realize it is more difficult to enter things like "character" into consideration, but we're asking that you step up and meet us at least halfway.

i dont think its as much character as it is making the comic interesting, since if superman speedblitzed like hes capable of all the time comics would get very boring and uniteresting

or a flash comic would last a panel

seems like my prediction of someone bringing people over here from over there would back fire.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
you mean cis which is used in this forum unless other wise stated in the match ups.

Exactly. You guys use debate training wheels and we don't.

If you want to debate us, we're not going to handicap ourselves. We'll demand that you rise to the challenge.

Question, iF Hero Chat doesn't allow CIS, then how in the hell can they EVER think Thanos can beat DS is beyond me. Even counting superman, DS is still leagues beyond Thanos.

Because Darkseid has become a pale shadow of his former glory, no matter what lengths you go to with your Jimmy-esque rationalization.

Originally posted by KK the Great
Because Darkseid has become a pale shadow of his former glory, no matter what lengths you go to with your Jimmy-esque rationalization.

Um, What DS are you reading? You obviously don't have any countdown issues, DOTNG issues, or superman batman issues. Keep up. DS is beyond anything he used to be.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, What DS are you reading? You obviously don't have any countdown issues, DOTNG issues, or superman batman issues. Keep up. DS is beyond anything he used to be.

Yea, except...you know...he never used to have problems with steps...

Originally posted by Photon009
The Thing, Hyperion, Gladiator, Firelord, Genis, Morg, Wonder Man, Hercules, Wolverine, Iron Fist, Human Torch, the Sentry, Atlas, Thanos, Shang Chi, Luke Cage, GL John Stewart, Drax, Captain Marvel (DC), Invisible Woman, etc

Challenge one of the Wolverine fans to Thing vs Wolverine battle?
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Oh, and I do feel that there should be another point of view. Now, we only debate powersets, and that's fine, but IMO it should be noted how the fight would go in a comic book, so I usually think the fights more than usually.

Though I don't really like your elitist attitude. Your way of debating isn't necessarily better than ours, it's just different. You should act like your superior, at least towards most of us. There are some members who should GTFO of course.

Originally posted by Photon009
Yea, except...you know...he never used to have problems with steps...

Any more than Thanos had problems with cops, spiderman, a chick in a cat suit, and handcuffs. Please grow up.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, What DS are you reading? You obviously don't have any countdown issues, DOTNG issues, or superman batman issues. Keep up. DS is beyond anything he used to be.

I've read all of those, and they've been discussed at length on the home of comic fandom's ivory tower, Herochat.

As such, I have no earthly idea what you could've gotten out of them to make you think Darkseid is worth more than mockery in recent years.

Recent Thanos appearances have him doing such things as owning cosmic cube beings in straight combat, fighting Galactus, defeating cosmic abstracts, and turning heralds of Galactus into heralds of Thanos.

But hey, at least Darkseid is pretty good at keeping his chin up after falling down stairs.

Originally posted by KK the Great
I've read all of those, and they've been discussed at length on the home of comic fandom's ivory tower, Herochat.

As such, I have no earthly idea what you could've gotten out of them to make you think Darkseid is worth more than mockery in recent years.

Recent Thanos appearances have him doing such things as owning cosmic cube beings in straight combat, fighting Galactus, defeating cosmic abstracts, and turning heralds of Galactus into heralds of Thanos.

But hey, at least Darkseid is pretty good at keeping his chin up after falling down stairs.

None of that compares to turning Granny Goodness into a more than skyfather being, amping Kalibak to more than Top tier status, controlling the shadow demons, you know the ones' that only the multiversal being AM controlled, beating the shit out of the MULTIVERSAL being eclipso, and DS still has feats such has hurting the spectre, the AM, and imperiex,. Thanos doesn't compare. and that cube being shit is nothing. She got pwned by being weak in the mind. Please try harder. You fail.

OH. PS

Thanos didn't fight Galactus, he threw one attack that did NOTHING to big G and then begged for his life as ALL of his defensive shielding failed under pressure.

DS on the other hand has taken a shot from The ALE entity to the dome and collapse a fifth of a reality. THanos does not compare.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
None of that compares to turning Granny Goodness into a more than skyfather being, amping Kalibak to more than Top tier status, controlling the shadow demons, you know the ones' that only the multiversal being AM controlled, beating the shit out of the MULTIVERSAL being eclipso, and DS still has feats such has hurting the spectre, the AM, and imperiex,. DS on the other hand has taken a shot from The ALE entity to the dome and collapse a fifth of a reality.

I'm not sure how to respond to such a BS overload.

Laughter seems appropriate, but somehow not enough.

Originally posted by KK the Great
I'm not sure how to respond to such a BS overload.

Laughter seems appropriate, but somehow not enough.
Submission will do. Since you obviously can't resopnd. Your saying BS and yet, it's all true. You fail.

Sometimes, when faced with a mound of such obvious nonsense, it is best to just let it stand as a monument to its own stupidity.

Originally posted by KK the Great
Sometimes, when faced with a mound of such obvious nonsense, it is best to just let it stand as a monument to its own stupidity.

Refute or don't post.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Refute your dont' post.

English translation, please?

Originally posted by KK the Great
I've read all of those, and they've been discussed at length on the home of comic fandom's ivory tower, Herochat.


ermmnone

Originally posted by Soljer
English translation, please?

Sorry was talking to assistant and on phone with one of our funders at same time. Refute or Don't post.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sorry was talking to assistant and on phone with one of our funders at same time. Refute or Don't post.

Talking to an assistant and brokering a mega-mutli-million dollar deal all while typing a post? Not bad. But can you do all that while juggling? That would be pretty impressive.


buy low sell high:
strider119

Originally posted by Strider119
Talking to an assistant and brokering a mega-mutli-million dollar deal all while typing a post? Not bad. But can you do all that while juggling? That would be pretty impressive.


buy low sell high:
strider119

Nah. Just one of our funders. He wants to do a visit of our offices. See where his money is going.

Originally posted by KK the Great
Exactly. You guys use debate training wheels and we don't.

If you want to debate us, we're not going to handicap ourselves. We'll demand that you rise to the challenge.

.......................demand us rise to what...............your standards are below ares. I actaully have to go back wards inorder to get to your standards.

oh I love to do a wolverine vs thing debate. oh how much fun that would be.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
oh I love to do a wolverine vs thing debate. oh how much fun that would be.
Didn't wolvie already hurt thing pretty bad a long while ago?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Didn't wolvie already hurt thing pretty bad a long while ago?
yup. though I think these hero chat fellows think other wise.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Didn't wolvie already hurt thing pretty bad a long while ago?

Sliced his face up something fierce.

Then on other occasions Thing has treated Wolvie like a non-threat and KO'd him with a casual lovetap.

That matchup really depends on the writer.

Originally posted by KK the Great
Sliced his face up something fierce.

Then on other occasions Thing has treated Wolvie like a non-threat and KO'd him with a casual lovetap.

That matchup really depends on the writer.
it actaully doesent depend on the wrighter at all.

I mean your missing a huge part of the issue......the part were mister fantastic states thing got lucky that logan was dazed.


oh and the fact Logans healing factor has had major up grades to it

Originally posted by Battlehammer
.......................demand us rise to what...............your standards are below ares. I actaully have to go back wards inorder to get to your standards.

When you say this, it is empty bluster. At no time in the past did you debate the way we do. "Going backward" would just take you back to a time before you started debating.

When I say it, I'm speaking literal fact. Your debate methodology is identical (minus the grammar) to what we were doing seven or eight years ago. "Going backward" would literally cause me to approach your style.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
it actaully doesent depend on the wrighter at all.

It absolutely does.




It is just portrayed much more fanboyishly by--GET THIS--a different writer.

Originally posted by KK the Great
When you say this, it is empty bluster. At no time in the past did you debate the way we do. "Going backward" would just take you back to a time before you started debating.

When I say it, I'm speaking literal fact. Your debate methodology is identical (minus the grammar) to what we were doing seven or eight years ago. "Going backward" would literally cause me to approach your style.

Then y do you bother to stay here if we are so " backwards"?

Originally posted by KK the Great
When I say it, I'm speaking literal fact. Your debate methodology is identical (minus the grammar) to what we were doing seven or eight years ago. "Going backward" would literally cause me to approach your style.
What debate methodology does herochat use now? I don't really go over there that much.

Originally posted by KK the Great
When you say this, it is empty bluster. At no time in the past did you debate the way we do. "Going backward" would just take you back to a time before you started debating.

When I say it, I'm speaking literal fact. Your debate methodology is identical (minus the grammar) to what we were doing seven or eight years ago. "Going backward" would literally cause me to approach your style.

dur

Originally posted by KK the Great
It absolutely does.




It is just portrayed much more fanboyishly by--GET THIS--a different writer.

actaully it doesent. since the writter even makes a point of mentioning that thing was lucky.




...............fanboyishly? Logans like all mutants powers have increased. They have been stated upgrades to his healing factor. They can't go backwards.

Meaning he now far harder to KO.

also if you go by the majority of the showings thing stands no chance of KOing Logan a single blow.

so instead of actaully debating you use cop out like it depends on the writer? Do't be rediculous. You could say that about any debate. so in theory debates on herochat are pointless since you can always just go "it depends on the writter".


so much for herochat being so superior in the way they debate.

Originally posted by KK the Great
When you say this, it is empty bluster. At no time in the past did you debate the way we do. "Going backward" would just take you back to a time before you started debating.

When I say it, I'm speaking literal fact. Your debate methodology is identical (minus the grammar) to what we were doing seven or eight years ago. "Going backward" would literally cause me to approach your style.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Then y do you bother to stay here if we are so " backwards"?

You're a spiritual person, right? Haven't you heard of missionary work?

Originally posted by KK the Great
You're a spiritual person, right? Haven't you heard of missionary work?

dur

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully it doesent. since the writter even makes a point of mentioning that thing was lucky.

You keep saying that as though it means something.




Yes, fanboyishly.

When a guy has Wolverine crawl out of molten steel with his flesh entirely gone, that goes beyond a "good showing" for his healing factor into into the realm of ridiculous fanboy nonsense. How is he supposed to move with no muscles? A healing factor doesn't explain that. At all.




What does healing from damages have to do with being KO'd?




Yes, our nuance is superior to your simple-minded method.

For those bashing Darkseid, what about Seven Soldiers? How do you address that?

Originally posted by KK the Great
You're a spiritual person, right? Haven't you heard of missionary work?

Like the Crusades. Which caused the death of millions?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
For those bashing Darkseid, what about Seven Soldiers?

What about it?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Like the Crusades. Which caused the death of millions?

Sort of. But the only thing I can kill here is your spirit.

Originally posted by KK the Great
What about it?

Did you read it? Did you understand it?

Originally posted by KK the Great
Sort of. But the only thing I can kill here is your spirit.

Honey, I'm a black man who happens to be gay and a regular church goer. You aren't worthy. And you have not the power.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Did you read it? Did you understand it?

WHAT?

A-?

-BOUT?

IT?

Originally posted by KK the Great
You keep saying that as though it means something.
............if the writter that had thing win said he one, becuase he was lucky Logan was dazed means quite a bit actaully..........




Originally posted by KK the Great
Yes, fanboyishly.

When a guy has Wolverine crawl out of molten steel with his flesh entirely gone, that goes beyond a "good showing" for his healing factor into into the realm of ridiculous fanboy nonsense. How is he supposed to move with no muscles? A healing factor doesn't explain that. At all..
.........what the hell does this have to do with anything? Do you see any one using it as evidence? Nope.




Originally posted by KK the Great
What does healing from damages have to do with being KO'd?..
............becuase he can heal many times fast then he use to be able to. Menaing he can take far more damage and keep on going......meaning when damage it heal almsot instantly so it makes a KO extremely difficult.




Originally posted by KK the Great
Yes, our nuance is superior to your simple-minded method.

so your debates are pointless...............since all any one has to say is it "depends on the writter"

yet your still trying to tell me thats some how superior to here how sad.

Originally posted by KK the Great
WHAT?

A-?

-BOUT?

IT?

Clearly you don't understand the scope of his power.

Originally posted by KK the Great
WHAT?

A-?

-BOUT?

IT? YOU DID NOT GET IT. Darkseid created an alternate earth with 6 billion people and trapped Mr. Miracle inside a sentient reality warp. Tell me, is such a feat within Thanos's power?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
YOU DID NOT GET IT. Darkseid created an alternate earth with 6 billion people and trapped Mr. Miracle inside a sentient reality warp. Tell me, is such a feat within Thanos's power?
Bitched ALL of the new Gods, depowered them, held his earth in stasis of a black hole, and created MULTIPLE realities. ALL while NOT in possession of the ALE.

It seems like there's a rather important detail you pair of jokers are leaving out.

What, that Seven Soldiers isn't canon? WRONG! It IS canon, per Shilo Norman's appearence in Firestorm merged with his motherbox, WHICH HAPPENED IN SEVEN SOLDIERS!

Sorry. Not buying what you're selling.

I guess you'll have to go back to patting each other on the backs and preaching to the choir about Darkseid's multiversal omnipotence.

Nvr, Galan, or whoever has that issue of Firestorm, please post the image that confirms Seven Soldiers as canon. I can't seem to find it.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Nvr, Galan, or whoever has that issue of Firestorm, please post the image that confirms Seven Soldiers as canon. I can't seem to find it.

Yeah, good luck in your continued mission to make people believe Darkseid is a multiversal omnipotent being.

I'll bet it has worked out wonderfully for you thus far.

Multiversal? Nah. He's high end skyfather, with some feats that put him higher.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Multiversal? Nah. He's high end skyfather, with some feats that put him higher.

Please, don't downplay Darkseid. You're really showing off your ignorance of his feats.

What about that time he created multiple realities? Huh? What about that, smart guy?

People love to credit Odin with galaxy busting, etc. and he's a mere skyfather. If we went by highest feats, DS is better yes. But on average, high end skyfather is his level. Then again, can Odin solo the LSH?

Wow, why don't you downplay Darkseid's feats some more?

Skyfather, my ass. Can a skyfather create multiple realities?

You're digging your own grave. I PMed Galan for the scans. and as soon as he gets back to me, I'll slap your ass silly with the proof.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You're digging your own grave.

Why? Because you won't accept the truth that Darkseid is a multiversal omnipotent being?

As soon as Galan gets back, I'll slap your ass silly with the proof.

Got them.
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7705/shilo2ce4.th.jpg http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4976/shilo3ws8.th.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5506/shilo1ol7.th.jpg

There's the proof. Choke on it.

Anyways.

This so called "missionary work" is asinine, and caused by the elitist view of a single misled poster to believe he can paint us all with the same brush that Nvr and Trickster deserve.

You'll find that our rules allow for CIS, and for full capacity fighting ability. This doesn't mean that characters lack their regular inhibitions, but that said characters' actions are not going to be overruled by the financial needs of the comic company. We've all seen Superman use his powers effectively, and I've seen TONS of unimportant characters blitzed in comics. This just doesn't happen with big names, because Hulk getting punched into orbit doesn't happen in comics.

Furthermore, most characters take it slow against the Hulk at the beginning because his reputation is intimidating. "ZOMG, it's the mofo hulkster!!!"

However, coming from a different reality where the Hulk doesn't exist, I don't think Flash would take it that slow against him. Especially when they're essentially treating him like any other enemy, though still fully aware of his threat level.

THAT'S what our rules encompass. And I cannot see how Herochat holds superiority over us. We have more traffic, we have more actual debate, and people learn and do more than experimenting with different places to stick their dick.

The proof is in!

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7705/shilo2ce4.th.jpghttp://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4976/shilo3ws8.th.jpghttp://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5506/shilo1ol7.th.jpg

Now will you accept that Darkseid is a multiversal omnipotent being?

Originally posted by KK the Great
The proof is in!

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7705/shilo2ce4.th.jpghttp://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4976/shilo3ws8.th.jpghttp://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5506/shilo1ol7.th.jpg

Now will you accept that Darkseid is a multiversal omnipotent being? dur

Originally posted by Badabing
dur

I know, right?

Now that I've proven--absolutely--that Darkseid is a multiversal omnipotent being, Trickster has gone noticeably quiet.

You were the one who argued against Seven Soldiers being canon. Had you actually read Seven Soldiers and those scans, the canonicity cannot be in doubt.

Hence, dur is the response you deserve.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
........your rediculous. wwh has done nothing that would suggest he could beat superman or that he is even close to his power There is beating Doctor Strange who was channeling Zom's power. Beating an Iron Man wearing armor that was stated to be more powerful than the one he fought King Thor in. One shotting Thing and Ares. Taking on teams of X Men, stopping Juggernaut, beating Black Bolt.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
People love to credit Odin with galaxy busting, etc. and he's a mere skyfather. If we went by highest feats, DS is better yes. But on average, high end skyfather is his level. Then again, can Odin solo the LSH? Would Odin lose to Superman twice? Nope. See how that works. Get out of here with your losh logic. Ill use my superman logic to negate your losh crap.