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Jesus Cable not god cable >.>

And he solos

Not a chance of that happening.

Originally posted by batdude123
Not a chance of that happening.

Last time i checked all of the combatants were made of atoms

guess who can control atoms....

crylaugh

Do you mean the Cable who fought Surfer?


If so, tough fight but I think Monica is the weak link. Magneto can control the energy of the EM spectrum. Then again, Quasar could probably protect her energy form, but I think it would be a strain on him.

This is classic monica BTW.

Monica phased through Mag's shield before.

When?

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
When? Hold on...

Originally posted by Bransolute
Monica took out Magneto before.

I think Mags could take a majority from her if he exploits her vulnerability to his power.

Unless Mags field can shield out light, Monica phases right through it.

Magneto can control every energy in the EM spectrum. As far as I know, Monica was limited to changing between different EM energies.

The issue is in the link.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/TheX-MenvsTheAvengers02-17.jpg

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Magneto can control every energy in the EM spectrum. As far as I know, Monica was limited to changing between different EM energies.

Yes, but if monica turns into light. Do you believe magneto will be fast enough to influence her energies before she gets to him?

Originally posted by Bransolute
The issue is in the link.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/TheX-MenvsTheAvengers02-17.jpg

That made me laugh.

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6231/magcontrolsphotons0ki.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123
That made me laugh.
Taking Thor, and She-Hulk's attack?
Ya... I know.

Originally posted by batdude123
That made me laugh.



Especially, the part with Thors hammer doing nothing to mags field.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Taking Thor, and She-Hulk's attack?
Ya... I know.

U iz teh funnie.

Monica gets raped against Mags 1-on-1.

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Especially, the part with Thors hammer doing nothing to mags field.

Not really.

Originally posted by batdude123
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6231/magcontrolsphotons0ki.jpg I don't care enough to research what Monica does (as she's not Mar-Vell), but I just wanted to throw that out there.

Originally posted by batdude123



Not really.

Yeah, really.

Originally posted by Bransolute
I don't care enough to research what Monica does (as she's not Mar-Vell), but I just wanted to throw that out there.

She's a being made out of energy that Magneto can easily manipulate.

And afaik, what you showed didn't 'take him out.'

Well, of course he can manipulate monica in her "light form". The question is can he do it before monica phases through his magnetic field? Monica in said form is moving at the speed of light, is magneto really gonna be able to influence her light form in time?

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Well, of course he can manipulate monica in her "light form". The question is can he do it before monica phases through his magnetic field? Monica in said form is moving at the speed of light, is magneto gonna be able to react in time?
The fact that her energy form was able to pass through his shields is completely ridiculous.

http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=visionandthescarletwitcam4.jpg

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6231/magcontrolsphotons0ki.jpg

And as for him not being able to react in time...

http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thexmenvstheavengers042xb7.jpg

Plus even if she did get the drop on him, what would she do? Hit him with electromagnetic energy? Lawlz.

Originally posted by batdude123
And afaik, what you showed didn't 'take him out.' Of course... of course...
3 pages later...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/X-Men_vs_Avengers_002-20.jpg



Also, the scan you showed, seemed to be a sound based attack, and then Magneto threw in that even photons yeild to him...

Originally posted by Bransolute
Also, the scan you showed, seemed to be a sound based attack, and then Magneto threw in that even photons yeild to him...

Is that a joke?

Originally posted by batdude123
Is that a joke?

Read the scan.

Originally posted by batdude123
Is that a joke? Well it says she took her sound based attack to the next level...

But of course, if you have an issue number, that would be even better.

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Read the scan.

LOL.

Do you know how Dazzler's powers work?

Originally posted by Bransolute
Well it says she took her sound based attack to the next level...

But of course, if you have an issue number, that would be even better.

That's Dazzler in that scan. She doesn't blast 'sound' out of her hands. She converts sound into light blasts.

Hence, the 'photon' reference.

Originally posted by batdude123
That's Dazzler in that scan. She doesn't blast 'sound' out of her hands. She converts sound into light blasts.

Hence, the 'photon' reference. Which is akin to what Photon does with her body?

Also, if light can't get through... well, you see where I'm going with this.

Edit

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Of course, but the that writer clearly did not. Making said feat nonsensicle at best.
So that's a no.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Which is akin to what Photon does with her body?

She converts her body into electromagnetic energy. So yes.

Originally posted by batdude123
So that's a no.

Didn't know that she turned sound into light. But, no matter, unless monica has the same start up time as dazzler. Magneto will not be able to do anything.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Which is akin to what Photon does with her body?

Also, if light can't get through... well, you see where I'm going with this.

He has complete control over photons.

http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=visionandthescarletwitcam4.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123
And as for him not being able to react in time...

http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thexmenvstheavengers042xb7.jpg

Plus even if she did get the drop on him, what would she do? Hit him with electromagnetic energy? Lawlz. Which doesn't mean he can react to her.

Just that he could possibly see her in a fight.

Originally posted by batdude123
He has complete control over photons.

http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=visionandthescarletwitcam4.jpg

Of course, but he needs to react inorder to influence it. Monica is not Dazzler, she does not need sound or anywhere near the amount of time to move.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Which doesn't mean he can react to her.

Just that he could possibly see her in a fight.

You're reaching. Anyway..

He can literally warp and manipulate her body with. Any energy she projects gets absorbed. She can't win.

Originally posted by batdude123
You're reaching. Anyway..

He can literally warp and manipulate her body with. Any energy she projects gets absorbed. She can't win.
Faster then she can attack her, he would have to react FTL. Are you implying he can?

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Of course, but he needs to react inorder to influence it. Monica is not Dazzler, she does not need sound or anywhere near the amount of time to move.

I don't see what this has to do with anything. First of all, Monica has to consciously turn her corporeal form into photons. He can react then.

Plus, she's not exactly the "speedblitzing" type of character, now is she? I think it's ridiculous that a case is trying to be made for her doing that when she's never done so.

Also, while in 'light' form, she's intangible. A lot of good that would do her if she tried to speedblitz.

She'd get owned. Plain and simple.

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Faster then she can attack her, he would have to react FTL. Are you implying he can?

Prove Monica has light speed reflexes, and your point is valid.

Afaik, she only goes the speed of light for travelling.

Doesn't change the fact that she can't hurt him.

I never said she has light speed reflexes, I said she can move FTL. She can go off like a flash grenade and stun him leaving wide open.

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
I never said she has light speed reflexes, I said she can move FTL.

I know she can.

But the fact is she has no way of winning with her electromagnetic based powers if we were to look at this logically.

Originally posted by batdude123
I know she can.

But the fact is she has no way of winning with her electromagnetic based powers if we were to look at this logically.

Logically monica in her light form is faster than mags can react and her transformation instantaneous.

Originally posted by batdude123
You're reaching. Anyway..

He can literally warp and manipulate her body with. Any energy she projects gets absorbed. She can't win. So... following someone with your eyes/mind=reacting to them?


I never said she could win (I haven't even said who'd win)... I just wanted to throw out that little scene, and make it interesting.

Also, before you throw the reactions at me...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/X-Men_vs_Avengers_002-21.jpg

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Logically monica in her light form is faster than mags can react and her transformation instantaneous.

I don't think you're understanding what I'm trying to convey to you.

She has to consciously think in order to change her body into light. Since Erik has superhuman reaction speeds, theoretically speaking, he could rip her body in half before said transformation occurs. It's not instantaneous.

And yes, Monica is fast. However, she only goes at light speed for traveling purposes. She's never gone the speed of light in a battle. Ever. She doesn't fight that way. And while in light form, she is intangible. A 'speedblitz' wouldn't help her even if she was capable of doing so, which she isn't anyway.

Any energy projection she fires can be manipulated by him, because it is a part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Fact of the matter is that he's actually tailor-made to fight someone like her. He'd win every time.

Understand now?

Originally posted by Bransolute


Also, before you throw the reactions at me...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/X-Men_vs_Avengers_002-21.jpg

Game Over.

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Game Over. LOL @ this n00b.

Originally posted by batdude123
LOL @ this n00b.

I registered before you, how am I a noob? Because you post more?

Originally posted by Bransolute
So... following someone with your eyes/mind=reacting to them?

Following someone with your conscious suggests reaction speeds/brain speed in order to do so.

So yah...

Originally posted by Bransolute
I never said she could win (I haven't even said who'd win)... I just wanted to throw out that little scene, and make it interesting.

I could care less. I find this amusing.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Also, before you throw the reactions at me...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/X-Men_vs_Avengers_002-21.jpg And what exactly would she do at that point?

Hit him with energy that he can easily control/manipulate/absorb?

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
I registered before you, how am I a noob? Because you post more? There are alternate definitions of 'noob.'

Anyway, you haven't even suggested a single way for Monica to win this.

All you've done is say 'she flies so much faster!!!11' which means hardly anything in this scenario.

Originally posted by batdude123
Following someone with your conscious suggests reaction speeds/brain speed in order to do so.

So yah... I thought his reactions were only 14.5 x better than humans?


Originally posted by batdude123
And what exactly would she do at that point? I'd tell you, but you only asked for reactions at that point.

Originally posted by Bransolute
I thought his reactions were only 14.5 x better than humans?

I thought Namor could only lift 85 tons. nuts

And if we're going to use traveling speed feats, how fast do you think it takes to go the moon in a few moments?

http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenv2minus1p20zp1.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenv2minus1p21kh4.jpg

Moon's about 250,000 miles away...

If we assume that it took him around 5 seconds to get there (I doubt Prof. X and the girl would be standing there for ages after he left), then he'd have been going around 180,000,000 miles per hour.

Not as fast as light, but actually kinda close...

Originally posted by Bransolute
I'd tell you, but you only asked for reactions at that point.

Attack him with energy that he can easily absorb/manipulate/control? Plus, there's no indication of her going the speed of light in your scan. You don't have to be able to go c in order for the same effects to be created by Monica in that scan. Nor is there any indication of her being able to speedblitz him. Especially since she's INTANGIBLE in light form.

And Mags was quick enough to absorb Storm's lightning bolts into his hands from about 15 feet away.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2016/mags22sh.jpg

She isn't going to do anything with her EM based powers to defeat Erik, Bran.

And just so I don't lose track, who exactly do you think would win this fight?

We aren't really using traveling speed. If she becomes light then all her movements are at light speed. Furthermore, a scan was just posted showing her reaction speed. She transforms into light form really fast. Mags will not be able to absorb the light in time. Also, doesn't mags need to be within range of the earths magnetic field to fly?

Originally posted by batdude123
I thought Namor could only lift 85 tons. nuts

And if we're going to use traveling speed feats, how fast do you think it takes to go the moon in a few moments?

http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenv2minus1p20zp1.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenv2minus1p21kh4.jpg

Moon's about 250,000 miles away...

If we assume that it took him around 5 seconds to get there (I doubt Prof. X and the girl would be standing there for ages after he left), then he'd have been going around 180,000,000 miles per hour.

Not as fast as light, but actually kinda close... However... it was comics that said Mag's reflexes were only (I say only in this instance, because that's nothing to lightspeed) 14.5 X better than a humans, did it not?
Can you point to me when it said that Namor's strength was 85 tons?

However, CM actually uses her speed...

Apparently, that would only be 50 000 miles per second... light speed is 186 000 miles per second.





Originally posted by batdude123
Attack him with energy that he can easily absorb/manipulate/control? Plus, there's no indication of her going the speed of light in your scan. You don't have to be able to go c in order for the same effects to be created by Monica in that scan. Nor is there any indication of her being able to speedblitz him. Especially since she's INTANGIBLE in light form.

And Mags was quick enough to absorb Storm's lightning bolts into his hands from about 15 feet away.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2016/mags22sh.jpg

She isn't going to do anything with her EM based powers to defeat Erik, Bran.

And just so I don't lose track, who exactly do you think would win this fight? Since she was going extremely fast that whole series, and even seemed faster in that part...
Ignoring that (of course), she made everyone look like they were frozen in place.
It also took her a small fraction of a second to get to where she went...
Mags won't be standing that far away...

Also, you don't have to blitz someone, to surprise them with your speed... or utilize your speed in a fight. She could still theoretically take him out without blitzing him, before he could do anything.
I'd look for her blitzing, but I don't feel like looking for anything outside of the series, and in the series, she can change into the opposite direction without slowing down, and I guess she blitzed Havok...

Also, she's intangible in her neutrino form... not her light form (it even says that in the series). She's also invisible in that form as well... Plus, she was able to weld a ship hole when she was in her light form, or energy form.

Lightning is only a 3rd of light speed, last I recalled...

F*ck if I know... f*ck if I care.

Why can't Monica resist mags influence with her own? I mean, she manipulates energy too, maybe not on the same scale as mags. But, to a high enough degree that she can fight mags off.

Uh....maybe I should do a Captain Marvel/Photon/Pulsar respect thread. I also want ot point out that Monica can also use other forms of energy and is not limited to the EM field. She been know to expolde with between 300 tons to 1000 megatons of TNT

Captain Marvel reaction time against Quicksilver and Spider-Man
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5710/pulsarvsquicksilverel0.th.jpg

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4184/pulsarandspidermanwm8.th.jpg

Transformation while in flight
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4857/quickchangehw4.th.jpg

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/281/lightspeedye4.th.jpg

Thinking and reacting within a fraction of a second
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8237/themachinexx5.th.jpg

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/3551/themachine2ow8.th.jpg

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8746/themachine3pa7.th.jpg

Hold on I have more...

Flying to the sun and becoming a gamma beam
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2610/gammabeamyu9.th.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5357/gammabeam2wb1.th.jpg

Taking out the force field of Thanos old starship
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9753/takingoutsheild2hf2.th.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7098/takingoutshieldsol6.th.jpg

Taking out a section of a planetwide forcefield
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5032/energywebjo8.th.jpg

and more speed
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5126/scan0001fk5.th.jpg

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9236/scan0002gc7.th.jpg

Sigh...I can't find my issue where she took it to Zeus.