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Round 1:Normal Vincent v.s. Ocorina of Time Ganon

Round 2:Chaos Vincent v.s. TP Ganon

Who wins?

i know who wins

normal loses, chaos wins

Without invulnerability I am guessing. Round 1 goes to Ganon. Round 2, he turns Vincent into a bodiless soul.

Chaos turns Ganon into mush

Originally posted by Terryc250
Chaos turns Ganon into mush Ganon turns Chaos into a bodiless soul.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Ganon turns Chaos into a bodiless soul.

...are we talking about the same Chaos and Ganon (TP)? Seriously; Chaos Vincent cubstomps Ganondorf.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
...are we talking about the same Chaos and Ganon (TP)? Seriously; Chaos Vincent cubstomps Ganondorf. Has he ever defended himself against such an attack? No? Okay then.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Has he ever defended himself against such an attack? No? Okay then.

What attack?

Originally posted by ESB -1138
What attack? It's not so much an attack as an effect. In TP, Zant could instantly turn areas into Twilight Zones. Which turns anyone who isn't a Triforce holder or a Twili into a bodiless soul. ALL of Zant's powers come from Ganon.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Has he ever defended himself against such an attack? No? Okay then.

Has Ganon ever fought with someone who can fly around him at lightspeed and far superior range, with power strong enough to quake the earth in a blow? No? Ok then

Originally posted by Terryc250
Has Ganon ever fought with someone who can fly around him at lightspeed and far superior range, with power strong enough to quake the earth in a blow? No? Ok then Vince can't go lightspeed, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO IT! As for quaking the earth, that was from Omega's explosion, not the force of Vince's blow. Superior range? How so?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
It's not so much an attack as an effect. In TP, Zant could instantly turn areas into Twilight Zones. Which turns anyone who isn't a Triforce holder or a Twili into a bodiless soul. ALL of Zant's powers come from Ganon.

Umm no that's not actually Zant (or Ganondorf) turning the light realm into the Twilight Realm. Zant had to get rid of the Light Spirits to change the light into twilight. Notice when Zant defeats the Light Spirit everything is engulfed into the Twilight Realm.

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That's not Zant's (or Ganondorf's) power but the Light Spirits' powers.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Vince can't go lightspeed, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO IT! As for quaking the earth, that was from Omega's explosion, not the force of Vince's blow. Superior range? How so?

Then what do you call this?

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I'm going with Vincent.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Vince can't go lightspeed, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO IT! As for quaking the earth, that was from Omega's explosion, not the force of Vince's blow. Superior range? How so?

Vincents Death Penalty gun = further range then a sword.

Its never been stated what caused the earth to quake but the powers Chaos displays throughout the game, i wouldn't doubt it that he did it

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Ganondorf takes this. He could just distract Vincent with his Phantom Ganon and kill him or like Violent2Dope said, turn him into a bodiless soul.

Originally posted by ThoraxeRMG
Ganondorf takes this. He could just distract Vincent with his Phantom Ganon and kill him or like Violent2Dope said, turn him into a bodiless soul.
Yes.. he stands there and lets him do whatever he wants even tho hes capable of moving about 20x faster then Ganon, watch the video and ull see why that is a ridiculous thing to say he would do to Chaos

I want to say Gannon, he's a messiah to some sortof amazon tribe, he's a diabolical sorcerer, blahblahblah.


But the fact is, the guy gets beaten by the same dumb elf time after time after time. Wether said elf is a child or grown-man.

So I say Vincett, also Vincett has firearms. Gannon will get shot before he can cast a spell.


And Chaos is just sick.

Originally posted by Captain King
I want to say Gannon, he's a messiah to some sortof amazon tribe, he's a diabolical sorcerer, blahblahblah.


But the fact is, the guy gets beaten by the same dumb elf time after time after time. Wether said elf is a child or grown-man.

So I say Vincett, also Vincett has firearms. Gannon will get shot before he can cast a spell.


And Chaos is just sick. Ganon gets underrated by almost everyone on this board. Like many video game villians, Ganon loses to plot devices.

He has the Triforce of Power, total invulnerability, and unimaginable strength to go along with his mystical spells, which are enhanced to an unknown level by the power of an omnipotent Goddess. A gun is doing nothing to him.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Yes.. he stands there and lets him do whatever he wants even tho hes capable of moving about 20x faster then Ganon, watch the video and ull see why that is a ridiculous thing to say he would do to Chaos

20x faster isn't that bad, especially considering Ganon's level of invulnerability (with or without the total invulnerability granted by the Triforce of Power.)

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
20x faster isn't that bad, especially considering Ganon's level of invulnerability (with or without the total invulnerability granted by the Triforce of Power.)
I dont think hes fought anyone as powerful as Chaos before, if he doesnt have total invulnerability from the triforce, then he gets crushed

Originally posted by Terryc250
I dont think hes fought anyone as powerful as Chaos before, if he doesnt have total invulnerability from the triforce, then he gets crushed He does. It makes him immortal and invulnerable.

I don't know anything about Vinny, but he looks like a bad-ass.

Originally posted by Terryc250
I dont think hes fought anyone as powerful as Chaos before, if he doesnt have total invulnerability from the triforce, then he gets crushed He doesn't need the total invulnerability, he needs one attack.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
He doesn't need the total invulnerability, he needs one attack. But he has it.

But people also act like that is the only thing he has going for him, which is bull.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
But people also act like that is the only thing he has going for him, which is bull. I know that.

Speaking of which, I'm going to ask Lana if I can redo his Respect thread. I kinda messed up on the first one, with it being my first Respect thread after all.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
He doesn't need the total invulnerability, he needs one attack.

And so does Chaos, but he also has much more other attacks to finish off Ganon as well..

And if Ganon can just simply kill anyone with one attack, i wonder why he gets beat by a little elf all the time

Originally posted by Terryc250
And so does Chaos, but he also has much more other attacks to finish off Ganon as well..

And if Ganon can just simply kill anyone with one attack, i wonder why he gets beat by a little elf all the time Said little elf had Triforce of Courage, which is the only defense against the spell(the Triforce pieces are I mean). Also, Link beating Ganon at all stinks of PIS.

Originally posted by Terryc250
And so does Chaos, but he also has much more other attacks to finish off Ganon as well..

And if Ganon can just simply kill anyone with one attack, i wonder why he gets beat by a little elf all the time Plot device.

That little elf has the essence of an omnipotent Goddess protecting him, and a sword that destroys evil, regardless of it's clout.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Said little elf had Triforce of Courage, which is the only defense against the spell(the Triforce pieces are I mean). Also, Link beating Ganon at all stinks of PIS. You beat me to it.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Chaos Vincent cubstomps Ganondorf. That's a given.

Originally posted by Sado-sama
That's a given. Prove it. Ganon turns him into bodiless soul. Also...Vince can't even hurt Ganon.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Prove it. Ganon turns him into bodiless soul. Also...Vince can't even hurt Ganon.
Show Ganon turning someone who even slightly can be comparable to Chaos into a "bodiless soul".. just beacause it was done to a shocked kid, doesn't mean Ganon will be able to do it to Chaos.
What makes u think Chaos cant hurt Ganon? Ganon has never fought anyone even close to as powerful as Chaos

Originally posted by Terryc250
Show Ganon turning someone who even slightly can be comparable to Chaos into a "bodiless soul".. just beacause it was done to a shocked kid, doesn't mean Ganon will be able to do it to Chaos.
What makes u think Chaos cant hurt Ganon? Ganon has never fought anyone even close to as powerful as Chaos He never did that to Link. Link is protected by a Golden Goddess. However, everyone else in existance (except Zelda, who is also protected by a Golden Goddess), was turned into a bodiless soul.

The Golden Goddess that protects Ganon is omnipotent. She is the creator of existance. Regardless of how powerful he is, Vince would not overcome her power.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Show Ganon turning someone who even slightly can be comparable to Chaos into a "bodiless soul".. just beacause it was done to a shocked kid, doesn't mean Ganon will be able to do it to Chaos.
What makes u think Chaos cant hurt Ganon? Ganon has never fought anyone even close to as powerful as Chaos Ummm...he has done it to...entire regions, and would have to the whole country.

Ganon was directly stated to be invulnerable to all but the Master Sword and Light Arrows. Also, even without ToP, he can still take multiple sword slashes from the Master Sword, and multiple Light Arrows, hell, a stab from the MS to the head couldn't even instantly kill him without ToP!

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Ganon was directly stated to be invulnerable to all but the Master Sword and Light Arrows.
Thats only if he has the triforce, so its really not his own power. And its been shown that his body still gets harmed, he just doesnt die.. it wouldnt be too fun being alive as a pile of ashes tho.



He doesnt do it instantly, lets see him do it to someone flying down from the sky at mach speed

V2D, Ganondorf clearly has his invulnerability taken out . Otherwise matches involving him would (and should) not exist.

I concede. LoZ (not the remnant of Sephiroth shocklaugh) wins.

Originally posted by Sado-sama
V2D, Ganondorf clearly has his invulnerability taken out . Otherwise matches involving him would (and should) not exist. That's sorta a good point. Otherwise, he'd only lose via BFR. Why not just make this a Ganondorf W/O the Triforce of Power? Cause with it, he's virtually undefeatable.

Ganondorf has other abilities. He's not slow, (in contrast to his SSBM appearance) and he has pretty powerful magic.

Chaos could BFR him even if he had triforce

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What's BFR again?

Originally posted by Sado-sama
What's BFR again? I don't know. I was hoping you could tell me.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Chaos could BFR him even if he had triforce Of course he could.

How would he do it?

Brutally F*cking Rape is what I think it means. 131

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Watch this video, see how fast Chaos is?
What can Ganon do if hes grabbed and flown at mach speed then powerfully tossed into a volcano, even with his triforce he'd be burned up, still alive but in hell

Umm...Ganondorf is stronger than Vincent physically by a signifigant amount, he wants him to grab him, he'll punch his head off. BFR? Ganon can tele, and could possibly just BFR him, by sending him to a pocket dimension.

BFR means "Battle Field Removal".

Show me a clip of Ganon actually doing something impressive.. show me him destroying somethin like omega in one blow, or actually teleporting ppl into pocket dimensions or somethin.

quickly, easily and without plot devices as well may i add

Originally posted by Terryc250
Show me a clip of Ganon actually doing something impressive.. show me him destroying somethin like omega in one blow, or actually teleporting ppl into pocket dimensions or somethin. Well how durable and powerful is Omega?

I've never seen Ganon put someone in a pocket dimension, but I've seen him create powerful magical forcefields, like the one he encased Hyrule Castle in.

Originally posted by Terryc250
What can Ganon do if hes grabbed and flown at mach speed then powerfully tossed into a volcano, even with his triforce he'd be burned up, still alive but in hell

With the Triforce of Power he'd be completely unaffected by anything that Chaos could do, including tossing him in a volcano.

Not to mention the fact that without it, he can fly and teleport as well.

How can you be alive and in hell? ermm

Omega is the most powerful WEAPON in FFVII world,
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composed of the lifestream which is the most powerful force on the planet and keeps the planet alive, Chaos takes it out in a single attack.



No where near the speed of Chaos, its been shown that Ganon's body still gets harmed, like punctures, etc.. so being thrown into lava would make his body messed up, and unable to move, yet he'd still be alive.

also im still waiting for video clips of Ganon

Ganon has never been injured by anything but the MS and LA with the ToP.

I'll get those vids.

What about the sages who stabbed him?

Originally posted by Terryc250
Omega is the most powerful WEAPON in FFVII world,
http://www.ffcompendium.com/chara/7doc-omega-o.jpg
composed of the lifestream which is the most powerful force on the planet and keeps the planet alive, Chaos takes it out in a single attack.



No where near the speed of Chaos, its been shown that Ganon's body still gets harmed, like punctures, etc.. so being thrown into lava would make his body messed up, and unable to move, yet he'd still be alive.

also im still waiting for video clips of Ganon
Sounds like a powerful guy.

I don't know how fast Ganon can fly, but I know he can teleport, and become immaterial, and his reflexes are vastly better than human.

He was harmed by the power of the Sages, which is the same thing that constitutes the Master's Sword's evil destroying power. Din's essence doesn't protect him against evil destroying weapons.

If Ganon was a good guy, he'd be absolutely invincible.

Originally posted by Terryc250
What about the sages who stabbed him? Yeah, those guys had the power to bypass the protection of Din, because Ganon is evil.

And it still didn't do them much good.

Originally posted by Terryc250
What about the sages who stabbed him? He didn't have ToP.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
He didn't have ToP. He did.

He never lost it since he gained it in Ocarina of Time.