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xmen

wolverine
colossus
night crawler
iceman

vs

F4

mr fantastic
invisible woman
thing
hunam torch

Wolverine could beat the Thing, and maybe Reed.

Colossus could beat the Thing, the Torch (eventually), and Reed.

Nightcrawler might be able to take the Torch.

Iceman could take them all, probably solo. .

Originally posted by Soljer
Wolverine could beat the Thing, and maybe Reed.

Colossus could beat the Thing, the Torch (eventually), and Reed.

Nightcrawler might be able to take the Torch.

Iceman could take them all, probably solo. . wolverine's not taking reed, cant even do him any harm infact non of the xmen here except iceman could hurt reed, thing can out fight colossus, torch could keep iceman busy for a little while , sue can easily due away with colossus and wolverine. I think this is a very good fight

I seem to recall reed having to consciously stretch his body out to not be impaled by Logan's claws.

And people at Colossus' strength level have damaged Reed in the past - Namor, for example.

The Thing doesn't have a wish or a prayer of beating Colossus for anything resembling a majority.

Lastly; how is it a 'good fight' when one of the X-Men can solo the Four?

Logan can cut mr.fantastic.


also night crawler could likly take sue out before she could think of attacking.

logan cant cut reed his best shot at doing it is a slashing motion and thats not likely to work. night crawler can bfr sue but not far enough he is limited on his distance and it's likely she could just fly back

Originally posted by lando005
logan cant cut reed his best shot at doing it is a slashing motion and thats not likely to work. night crawler can bfr sue but not far enough he is limited on his distance and it's likely she could just fly back

actaully he can and not mikstaken have. sue can't fly.............and night crawler can teleport many miles and one after the other. Or simply KO her with a single attack.

Or Iceman can just rip the water content out of Reed, Invisible Woman, and Thing
http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/8550/iceman13gv.th.jpghttp://img332.imageshack.us/img332/6134/iceman20rs.th.jpghttp://img332.imageshack.us/img332/7682/iceman32ns.th.jpg

and do this to Human Torch:
http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmen2020011ef3.jpg

His body is sheathed in flame. It doesn't literally turn to flames.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully he can and not mikstaken have. sue can't fly.............and night crawler can teleport many miles and one after the other. Or simply KO her with a single attack. sue cant fly but can use her powers to mimic flying and night crawler may be able to teleport a few milses but is still limited to what he can view. Not too long a go it took him a few leaps to teleport himself (and i think storm or rachel) completely away from the battle field, he'll have one chance to bfr sue at best before she will have time to react and that might not completely remove her from the fight

Originally posted by lando005
sue cant fly but can use her powers to mimic flying and night crawler may be able to teleport a few milses but is still limited to what he can view. Not too long a go it took him a few leaps to teleport himself (and i think storm or rachel) completely away from the battle field, he'll have one chance to bfr sue at best before she will have time to react and that might not completely remove her from the fight

Or you know, he could just 'port and punch. She doesnt have extra physical durability ermm

It's been awhile since I seen BW's Iceman. Good times.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Or you know, he could just 'port and punch. She doesnt have extra physical durability ermm eh yea i guess so

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/Face-Man/wolverinevol322page17bg9.jpg

"If I keep stretching to accommodate" was something I pointed out earlier.

Originally posted by lando005
sue cant fly but can use her powers to mimic flying and night crawler may be able to teleport a few milses but is still limited to what he can view. Not too long a go it took him a few leaps to teleport himself (and i think storm or rachel) completely away from the battle field, he'll have one chance to bfr sue at best before she will have time to react and that might not completely remove her from the fight

Umm actaully he can and has teleported were he can't see before. He done it a lot. He can teleport many times before she could even react. He can teleport miles every time. Hell one teleport a lone would KO her. It not very ncie for the passanger, even worse when Night crawler wants to fight them.

Originally posted by Val
It's been awhile since I seen BW's Iceman. Good times.

Originally posted by Soljer
"If I keep stretching to accommodate" was something I pointed out earlier.



Nice sig by the way...

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Umm actaully he can and has teleported were he can't see before. He done it a lot. He can teleport many times before she could even react. He can teleport miles every time. Hell one teleport a lone would KO her. It not very ncie for the passanger, even worse when Night crawler wants to fight them. there is a brief moment that night crawler returns to normal space after a tp it's not going to take more than a second for sue to pop a force field in him both of their abilities run at about the same speed they think about said action and then their bodies do it it's not as if nc has super speed. Also there is a set distance he can tp bishop once asked him why he didnt go after a brain washed rachel when she was sent flying int the distance bye psylock and he replied that he could not teleport that far in one leap. at that point in time you could still see rachel rocketing through the air in the distance. Was she miles a way? sure but not that far removed.

Originally posted by lando005
there is a brief moment that night crawler returns to normal space after a tp it's not going to take more than a second for sue to pop a force field in him both of their abilities run at about the same speed they think about said action and then their bodies do it it's not as if nc has super speed. Also there is a set distance he can tp bishop once asked him why he didnt go after a brain washed rachel when she was sent flying int the distance bye psylock and he replied that he could not teleport that far in one leap. at that point in time you could still see rachel rocketing through the air in the distance. Was she miles a way? sure but not that far removed.

yes becuase he can only teleport about 5 miles at a time. Though he can teleport many times. actaully he can teleport many times with in a second or so. So yes he could teleport her ass 20 miles or more away before she new what was up. Oh and one teleport alone like I said would KO her.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes becuase he can only teleport about 5 miles at a time. Though he can teleport many times. actaully he can teleport many times with in a second or so. So yes he could teleport her ass 20 miles or more away before she new what was up. Oh and one teleport alone like I said would KO her. so she's suppose to just stand there and let him tp her ( and maybe cop a feel while he's at it)? dont you think she would react after the first tp? i think so, so no i dont think he would be able to tp her 20 miles or so, so the issue breaks down to wether or not she would be koed after 1 tp

Hey guys? Guys? No one cares. Why? Iceman FTW

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Or Iceman can just rip the water content out of Reed, Invisible Woman, and Thing
http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/8550/iceman13gv.th.jpghttp://img332.imageshack.us/img332/6134/iceman20rs.th.jpghttp://img332.imageshack.us/img332/7682/iceman32ns.th.jpg

and do this to Human Torch:
http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmen2020011ef3.jpg

Originally posted by lando005
so she's suppose to just stand there and let him tp her ( and maybe cop a feel while he's at it)? dont you think she would react after the first tp? i think so, so no i dont think he would be able to tp her 20 miles or so, so the issue breaks down to wether or not she would be koed after 1 tp

No she couldent. She does not have night crawler reaction time. This would take place beyond the speed she could react to. also one teleport would KO her I have not doubts.

she's going to react after getting tped so nc wont have an easy time moving her that far away

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No she couldent. She does not have night crawler reaction time. This would take place beyond the speed she could react to. also one teleport would KO her I have not doubts.


I would not say that her powers work at the speed of thought just like a telepath.

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Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I would not say that her powers work at the speed of thought just like a telepath.

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http://img34.imagevenue.com/loc1016/th_15651_blz19_122_1016lo.jpg Actually this was discussed before. It was a sucker punch and no Emma does not actively try to read everyone's minds.

And she'd have to know that nightcrawler targeted her.

And no she's not a telepath herself.

One teleport is all he'd really need.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I would not say that her powers work at the speed of thought just like a telepath.

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http://img34.imagevenue.com/loc1016/th_15651_blz19_122_1016lo.jpg Their's chicks wit der nekked bodies in ur links...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Their's chicks wit der nekked bodies in ur links... You forgot to clear the porn out of your cache again... I saw pictures of potato salad as the ads... Yeah yeah, I visit recipie sites...

Originally posted by Creshosk
You forgot to clear the porn out of your cache again... I saw pictures of potato salad as the ads... Yeah yeah, I visit recipie sites... Is that the reason?
srsly?

I'm going to clean it then...

you guys talk like naked women is a bad thing

Nope... still boobies.

Well... if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

and enjoy em

I cant see them

Originally posted by lando005
and enjoy em Sent me to "Boreme.com".

F4 takes this, HT takes out Colossus, while IW takes out nightcrawler and wolverine, then Richards figures out a way to defeat Iceman

Nah the xmen have too much power on there side the only real problem they have is invisible woman and she cant take them alone.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I cant see them then go put some porn in your cache.. or cookies or whatever...

redtube... nuff said

IMO, Nightcrawler could take anyone on the team except Johnny.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/MightyEinherjar/wolverine140thing.gif

Sure, the Thing in that scan was a robot, but I don't see a reason other than CIS why he wouldn't be able to do the same to the real deal...