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http://www.wowwiki.com/images/thumb/b/b1/Anveena.jpg/200px-Anveena.jpg

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http://www.nosgoth2.net/Soul_Reaver/conceptart/earlyKain.JPG



Yes, I have thought this trough

hm interested, kwl art from kain btw lawls, thats how he looked in development, but anyway can you give me a site or some info on that lady plz

WoWWiki is the best I can do

http://www.wowwiki.com/Anveena

gdgd i trust WoWwiki, ive looked through its information and it is usually okie, the same can be said for Wikipedia imo but hey, so many complaints about it, it must be dodgy, unless the fact people can change it is simply the reason, in which case not a good reason.

but ill look that through

hm ime not sure about this fight, she does not seem to have many feats and before she awakens her true powers she seems a bit weak, like a normal human but in the end she destroyed that dude and obliteratd him, also at the moment ime not sure what kain could use on a being simply made of the sunwells energy.

if she is made from energy, he should theoretically be able to control her since thats what the Energy reaver does or absorb her

but ime not so sure about that, i dont think either of them will win unless kain can do that, then he wins, most of her energy is magical so if he uses a spell block, he could end up reflecting her own magic back at her meaning if she uses a powerful spell that could cause her harm, it would hit her

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
http://www.wowwiki.com/images/thumb/b/b1/Anveena.jpg/200px-Anveena.jpg

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http://www.nosgoth2.net/Soul_Reaver/conceptart/earlyKain.JPG



Yes, I have thought this trough

Kain is a tough nut to crack.. Is this Anveena before she is aware of her powers, or after? Because she is a whimp before she knows what she can do, and knows how to do it..

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
http://www.nosgoth2.net/Soul_Reaver/conceptart/earlyKain.JPGcrylaugh

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Kain is a tough nut to crack.. Is this Anveena before she is aware of her powers, or after? Because she is a whimp before she knows what she can do, and knows how to do it..

Aveena with the awareness that she has in the end of the Sunwell triology

trouble is she has no soul destroying powers afaik, shes a bit of an anomoly to me at least....that WoWwiki article does not explain too much, so unless she can actually delete beings from excistence itself she cannot kill Kain at all

if she can, then she will have to be faster than Kain can gesture, if they both use their attacks in a gesture then its on the edge of a coin

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
Aveena with the awareness that she has in the end of the Sunwell triology

Going with theory, Anveena cant really be destroyed..

This could wind up a draw, but Anveena would certainly destroy Kain's physical form..

ime not so sure about that, are not her attacks all magical since she is basically a magical manifestation is she not, so if kain has his shield, she cannot do anything to him but harm herself in the process, but as you said she prob cannot be destroyed, hed slowly have to just use the energy reaver to draw upon her energy

i wonder if him having infnite magic energy within him will be a decider in this fight, is she not mainly magical, would not a larger magic force absorb a smaller one

Originally posted by Burning thought
ime not so sure about that, are not her attacks all magical since she is basically a magical manifestation is she not, so if kain has his shield, she cannot do anything to him but harm herself in the process, but as you said she prob cannot be destroyed, hed slowly have to just use the energy reaver to draw upon her energy

i wonder if him having infnite magic energy within him will be a decider in this fight, is she not mainly magical, would not a larger magic force absorb a smaller one

I'm aware of his magical shield.. but take this in consideration:

Anveena was in the Sunwell Triology under a spell-shacke.. Which prevented her from using magic at all.. a shield surrounding her that held her magical energies back..

Dar'Khan had absorbed portions of the sunwell.. He was powerful enough to mindcontrol Korialstrasz, while at the same time battle Sylvanas and two other dragons, along with a band of blood elves and a paladin without breaking a sweat ((He laughed trough major parts of the fight))

Anveena breaks trough the spell shacke, and with one single thought she destroys him, his entire undead force and transforms the ruins of Quel'Thalas to an area of life, trees and grass..

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Originally posted by Darth Extecute
I'm aware of his magical shield.. but take this in consideration:

Anveena was in the Sunwell Triology under a spell-shacke.. Which prevented her from using magic at all.. a shield surrounding her that held her magical energies back..

Dar'Khan had absorbed portions of the sunwell.. He was powerful enough to mindcontrol Korialstrasz, while at the same time battle Sylvanas and two other dragons, along with a band of blood elves and a paladin without breaking a sweat ((He laughed trough major parts of the fight))

Anveena breaks trough the spell shacke, and with one single thought she destroys him, his entire undead force and transforms the ruins of Quel'Thalas to an area of life, trees and grass..

The fight you mention, Dar'Khan only fought Kalec, and he was in human form. Trough a spell did Korialstrasz fight for Dar'Khan. It was Korialstrasz who defeated Sylvanas, Tyri and the others. It was thanks to the confused state of mind that Anveena was in that he was capable of grasping Korialstrasz in the first place. Anveena blasted Korialstrasz and knocked him unconcious and during his unconcious state did Dar'Khan bind a spell to him

Yeh yeh, I know you know

But who do you think would win?

It was a long time since I last played any Kain game, but from what I remember he has shown no capability to withstand a full scale Sunwell blast. Which is seen in the triology, nothing can prevent a Sunwell blast. She put no effort into using her blast even though she was under a spell blocking effect.

No matter what, Kain does not live it trough. Not his physical self at least. If Anveena dies, in all likelyness will the same blast come as the previous time Sunwell was destroyed

I think Anveena wins it.

better picture of Kain. Don't know her, Not read the Sunwell trilogies.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z156/DiffidentAngel/Lord_Kain_by_CharletDukaine.jpg

Originally posted by EvilAngel
better picture of Kain. Don't know her, Not read the Sunwell trilogies.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z156/DiffidentAngel/Lord_Kain_by_CharletDukaine.jpg

kwl pic, whered ya find that, ive not even see that one

Originally posted by Fuddle
It was a long time since I last played any Kain game, but from what I remember he has shown no capability to withstand a full scale Sunwell blast. Which is seen in the triology, nothing can prevent a Sunwell blast. She put no effort into using her blast even though she was under a spell blocking effect.

No matter what, Kain does not live it trough. Not his physical self at least. If Anveena dies, in all likelyness will the same blast come as the previous time Sunwell was destroyed

I think Anveena wins it.

its magic....his shield reflects magic...thats the simple Fact, the shield also has no health nor any way of breaking no matter how much magic hits kain, so....her blast hits herself...

Also kain cannot die, so he will survive....at the same time, what does she do to emit the blast, if she has to speak, move her arms, Kain could clamp her down with a gesture...Does she have a brain? a gesture will make her a Vegetable...

also Kain has his time manip right? he gestures again, shes a statue, she is not powerful enough to defeat teh Lord

Originally posted by Burning thought
kwl pic, whered ya find that, ive not even see that one


Erm, i don't remember, either deviant art or photobucket

Originally posted by Burning thought
kwl pic, whered ya find that, ive not even see that one



its magic....his shield reflects magic...thats the simple Fact, the shield also has no health nor any way of breaking no matter how much magic hits kain, so....her blast hits herself...

Also kain cannot die, so he will survive....at the same time, what does she do to emit the blast, if she has to speak, move her arms, Kain could clamp her down with a gesture...Does she have a brain? a gesture will make her a Vegetable...

also Kain has his time manip right? he gestures again, shes a statue, she is not powerful enough to defeat teh Lord

What Anveena uses is beyond magic. That is why she could break trough the barrier as if it was nothing. She uses something that in term would be called 'immortal magic'. Protection from magic does not serve him any good in a fight against Sunwell manifested. If her attack were to be reflected, she would simply absorb it again.

Kain's spirit may not be capable of dying, but she can destroy that of him which is needed to keep a fight going. She uses her attacks not trough gestures, motions or words. She emit it trough a single thought. Trough the Sunwell triology, she uses multiple attacks which all are chanted directly from her mind within an instant. She was at first a mere illusion. A lifeless shell, but she gave herself life. She does not have a soul, but she has awareness.

I do not think that time powers will do Kain any good. She is the Sunwell itself. Immortal magic flowing inside an outer shell. The power would not stop flowing just because someone freeze her physical form at place

Originally posted by Fuddle
What Anveena uses is beyond magic. That is why she could break trough the barrier as if it was nothing. She uses something that in term would be called 'immortal magic'. Protection from magic does not serve him any good in a fight against Sunwell manifested. If her attack were to be reflected, she would simply absorb it again.

Kain's spirit may not be capable of dying, but she can destroy that of him which is needed to keep a fight going. She uses her attacks not trough gestures, motions or words. She emit it trough a single thought. Trough the Sunwell triology, she uses multiple attacks which all are chanted directly from her mind within an instant. She was at first a mere illusion. A lifeless shell, but she gave herself life. She does not have a soul, but she has awareness.

I do not think that time powers will do Kain any good. She is the Sunwell itself. Immortal magic flowing inside an outer shell. The power would not stop flowing just because someone freeze her physical form at place


prove its beyond magic, prove "immortal magic" is any diffrent, this will not make any diffrence, and fair game, she can absorb it if she wishes so....

can she really? not in his shield, also hows she going to hit him, can you prove what she does is fast and inescapable, all he has to do is go to another dimension, summon her, then go back and he wins through BFR, he could also use the illusions of the mind emblem to trick her.

that does not make any diffrence, there is no reason why time would prove to be innefective