Beta Ray Bill vs Drax(Dumb version)

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darthgoober
Drax has the Power Gem(and is keeping in his belt rather than his stomach, like his later appearances) and they fight on the Moon.

No BFR.


Who takes it?

Larceny
BRB

darthgoober
Originally posted by Larceny
BRB
I forgot to mention the Power Gem so I edited it(just in case you missed it).

Larceny
Originally posted by darthgoober
I forgot to mention the Power Gem so I edited it(just in case you missed it).

Doesn't matter. BRB still edges him out. BTW, I've been tearing your boy Surfer up in the "Can Thor defeat these two characters" thread. You may wanna go and check it out. smile

darthgoober
Originally posted by Larceny
Doesn't matter. BRB still edges him out. BTW, I've been tearing your boy Surfer up in the "Can Thor defeat these two characters" thread. You may wanna go and check it out. smile
laughing out loud Sounds a little like a challenge. Ok I'll bite...

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Doesn't matter. BRB still edges him out. BTW, I've been tearing your boy Surfer up in the "Can Thor defeat these two characters" thread. You may wanna go and check it out. smile

I highly doubt it. Thor is still < Hulk by your reasoning.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
I highly doubt it. Thor is still < Hulk by your reasoning.

Sure, whatever floats your boat. However as pointed out by Bran and myself, Hulk has beaten Thor more times than Thor's beat Hulk. smile

Gecko4lif
BRB eaisly

with the power gem it is a bit closer but brb rips him a new one still

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Sure, whatever floats your boat. However as pointed out by Bran and myself, Hulk has beaten Thor more times than Thor's beat Hulk. smile

Let's not make it sound as though you are actually in the ascendency there. You might fool bystanders who do not know better.

Back on topic, BRB wins.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Let's not make it sound as though you are actually in the ascendency there. You might fool bystanders who do not know better.

Back on topic, BRB wins.

So what do you know? I know something. I know you have, and will likely not give evidence to support your claims.

I know.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
So what do you know? I know something. I know you have, and will likely not give evidence to support your claims.

I know.

Your only claim to a Thor victory is from King Thor, on a Hulk that you cannot prove is anywhere near the hulk we know. That says enough.

No one asked.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Your only claim to a Thor victory is from King Thor, on a Hulk that you cannot prove is anywhere near the hulk we know. That says enough.

No one asked.

Oh I have others, such as the instance below. However I like to let those who believe themselves to know something come to the realization that they know little to nothing at all.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk5.jpg

Red Shift
With the Gem?

Drax.

What's Bill going to do except prolong the fight?

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by Red Shift
With the Gem?

Drax.

What's Bill going to do except prolong the fight?

bill is on a different tier

Larceny
Originally posted by Red Shift
With the Gem?

Drax.

What's Bill going to do except prolong the fight?

This?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity6.jpg

Red Shift
Gee, read the first post when you stumble into threads much?

Red Shift
(and is keeping in his belt rather than his stomach,

It's a wondeeeerful thing, knowing what you're taaaalking about...

SuperiorTech
LOL

Red Shift
Thor's gonna whack the mother ****er so hard in the stomach that the gem'll come out...

EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IN HIS STOMACH.

Larceny
Originally posted by Red Shift
(and is keeping in his belt rather than his stomach,

It's a wondeeeerful thing, knowing what you're taaaalking about...

Which is going to keep him from getting overpowered? confused

Red Shift
Originally posted by Larceny
Which is going to keep him from getting overpowered? confused

You don't "overpower" power gem users.

Or I guess you missed Drax with the power gem one shotting the Champion of the Universe.

Or Titania absolutely destroying the most powerful She-Hulk we've ever seen with the gem.

Or Thanos being unable to beat the Power Gem Champion or Power Gem Thor in direct fights.

Or the Champion beating the Silver Surfer, Adam Warlock, Gladiator, Betta Ray Bill and others with the gem.

Do get back to me when Thor's leagues beyond all the cosmic heavyweights I just mentioned.

golem370
Drax had a bad problem with taking stuff seriously but when Champion tryed to take his power gem back from Drax he dropped Champion with one shot. Champion had a upgrade when Drax did it. I love Hulk but Drax was a superior characters with the ability to fly and having concussive blasts.

Larceny
Originally posted by Red Shift
You don't "overpower" power gem users.

Or I guess you missed Drax with the power gem one shotting the Champion of the Universe.

Or Titania absolutely destroying the most powerful She-Hulk we've ever seen with the gem.

Or Thanos being unable to beat the Power Gem Champion or Power Gem Thor in direct fights.

Or the Champion beating the Silver Surfer, Adam Warlock, Gladiator, Betta Ray Bill and others with the gem.

Do get back to me when Thor's leagues beyond all the cosmic heavyweights I just mentioned.

Then what exactly is going on here?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity6.jpg

SuperiorTech
Originally posted by Larceny
Then what exactly is going on here?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity6.jpg


Wasnt that wm thor doing all that.

Red Shift
Originally posted by Larceny
Then what exactly is going on here?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity6.jpg

You do know that the Power Gem makes you stronger and more durable to literally infinite levels, yes?

Exactly why Thor REMOVED the Power Gem from him.

Larceny
Originally posted by Red Shift
You do know that the Power Gem makes you stronger and more durable to literally infinite levels, yes?

Exactly why Thor REMOVED the Power Gem from him.

I also know that while in possession of the PG Thor doing exactly to Drax what you said can't happen.

And he did that how? By physically over powering him.

Red Shift
Yes, because Drax didn't have the ****ing power gem at that time.

I don't remember arguing for a thing otherwise.

Larceny
Originally posted by Red Shift
Yes, because Drax didn't have the ****ing power gem at that time.

I don't remember arguing for a thing otherwise.

What then was that gem that came from his mouth after being dominated by Thor?

You said it couldn't happen. It did.

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by Red Shift
Yes, because Drax didn't have the ****ing power gem at that time. So, would you say he had a diamond in him then?

I've always thought he only had a diamond in his stomach, and now this sort of proves that Drax did everything he's ever done under his own power... but I guess WM Thor gets an upgrade under normal power. Thanks though for the confirmation. smile

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Oh I have others, such as the instance below. However I like to let those who believe themselves to know something come to the realization that they know little to nothing at all.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk5.jpg

You mean the instance in which the cave collapsed due to Thor being thrown into the cave wall? The one which hulk walked away from? The one in which Thor later claimed that he could not prove his superiority over hulk? I'm sure you know a whole lot.

llagrok
Originally posted by Ouallada
You mean the instance in which the cave collapsed due to Thor being thrown into the cave wall? The one which hulk walked away from? The one in which Thor later claimed that he could not prove his superiority over hulk? I'm sure you know a whole lot.

So you attack him because he proved you wrong?

Cool.

Ouallada
Originally posted by llagrok
So you attack him because he proved you wrong?

Cool.



One good turn deserves another.

Wrong? Hulk wasn't beaten in journey into mystery #112. And yes, I am definitely wrong in saying hulk > Thor based on their fights, no more than saying that SS < Thor based on their fights, especially when surfer takes at least a split.

Cool.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
One good turn deserves another.

Wrong? Hulk wasn't beaten in journey into mystery #112. And yes, I am definitely wrong in saying hulk > Thor based on their fights, no more than saying that SS < Thor based on their fights, especially when surfer takes at least a split.

Cool.

You said something didn't happen. I said it did. I have proof. You don't. smile

Tommy05
Thor beats Hulk.

Surfer beats Thor.

Hulk loses to everyone.

Drax gets beat by BRB....possibly if he can't get some decent shots in.

King Kandy
Originally posted by Larceny
Then what exactly is going on here?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity6.jpg
And I guess there's no need for you to mention that the Thor in those scans beat BRB as well...

Larceny
Originally posted by King Kandy
And I guess there's no need for you to mention that the Thor in those scans beat BRB as well...

You're correct, there isn't. Thor beating BRB has no relevance to PG users being physically overpowered or Drax having the PG beaten out of him. smile

Gecko4lif
powr gem doesnt amp to infinite level

never has and never will

Bouboumaster
Drax. The PG is just to much.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
You said something didn't happen. I said it did. I have proof. You don't. smile

The fight you mentioned on the other thread was King Thor, reinforced by Jurgens.

In journey into mystery, Thor himself said that it was inconclusive if he was stronger. In addition to what happened on-panel, I would buy into his abovementioned statement.

In other words, the only thing you have proven is that King Thor killed a hulk that had one of the lowest durability showings in his history, and that the fight you mentioned was "inconclusive".

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Drax. The PG is just to much.
'
The showings of the power gem arent too good.
And BRB is on a whole other plain from drax

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
The fight you mentioned on the other thread was King Thor, reinforced by Jurgens.

In journey into mystery, Thor himself said that it was inconclusive if he was stronger. In addition to what happened on-panel, I would buy into his abovementioned statement.

In other words, the only thing you have proven is that King Thor killed a hulk that had one of the lowest durability showings in his history, and that the fight you mentioned was "inconclusive".

I honestly don't care what Jurgens said. It's about as relevant as Stan Lee claiming Hulk could defeat Superman. I know what he wrote, and I know what Marvel published, and they published a comic in which the Odin Power connection was severed from Thor.

Which is irrelevent to your earlier post.

Again irrelevent and I half truth. You claimed Thor has only beaten Hulk once, I proved otherwise. irrelevent

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
I honestly don't care what Jurgens said. It's about as relevant as Stan Lee claiming Hulk could defeat Superman. I know what he wrote, and I know what Marvel published, and they published a comic in which the Odin Power connection was severed from Thor.

Which is irrelevent to your earlier post.

Again irrelevent and I half truth. You claimed Thor has only beaten Hulk once, I proved otherwise. irrelevent

You may not care what he said, but I would wager that the writer of a comic would know his intentions for his own comic better than you. Stan Lee claiming that Hulk could defeat Superman is his own speculation. Dan Jurgens saying that Thor had his odin-power during that fight isn't speculation, but a simple and absolute statement.

It is relevant insofar as Thor failed to get a victory in that issue. I'm guessing that since you place so much emphasis on on-panel text, you would believe Thor's admission that he could not prove that he was stronger conclusively.

You proved what? King Thor beating Hulk counts now? Those straws. Keep clutching.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
You may not care what he said, but I would wager that the writer of a comic would know his intentions for his own comic better than you. Stan Lee claiming that Hulk could defeat Superman is his own speculation. Dan Jurgens saying that Thor had his odin-power during that fight isn't speculation, but a simple and absolute statement.

It is relevant insofar as Thor failed to get a victory in that issue. I'm guessing that since you place so much emphasis on on-panel text, you would believe Thor's admission that he could not prove that he was stronger conclusively.

You proved what? King Thor beating Hulk counts now? Those straws. Keep clutching.

That may be true, however what he claimed and what was published were two entirely different things. Just as he claimed Odin was only planetary in power although what he published and Odin's previous showings point otherwise.

What he said during the interview and what was published by Marvel are two separate things. He claimed Thor had the Odin Power, but it was made blatantly clear that his connection was severed mid fight. "The Odin Power is no longer yours". Pretty clear what Marvel was trying to get across.

What does questioning physical superiority have to do with having the upper hand in a fight?

No, that a non Odin Powered, Thor whom lost possession of Mjolnir defeated and killed Hulk. Also, that a Classic Thor clearly had the upper hand against him. There are more instances, but the one was only needed to prove you wrong. smile

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
That may be true, however what he claimed and what was published were two entirely different things. Just as he claimed Odin was only planetary in power although what he published and Odin's previous showings point otherwise.

What he said during the interview and what was published by Marvel are two separate things. He claimed Thor had the Odin Power, but it was made blatantly clear that his connection was severed mid fight. "The Odin Power is no longer yours". Pretty clear what Marvel was trying to get across.

What does questioning physical superiority have to do with having the upper hand in a fight?

No, that a non Odin Powered, Thor whom lost possession of Mjolnir defeated and killed Hulk. Also, that a Classic Thor clearly had the upper hand against him. There are more instances, but the one was only needed to prove you wrong. smile

Jurgens said that as a direct consequence of Odin's power being inconsistently portrayed, and he would be right, as every character has high/low showings. Odin is no exception. It does not matter what the odin-power is. The fact is that Thor was stated to have it. In fact, "he had to have it".

Even if Odin's power was planetary, can you quantify how much power that is? I certainly do not want to speculate there, but I am willing to bet that the power-up would be substantial enough to allow Thor to be disqualified from being classic Thor.

Because Thor was obviously not physically superior, and the fight was only ended by Thor being thrown into the wall. If Thor could not claim superiority, and Hulk was not knocked out, how does that constitute a victory?

Show me the other victories then, instead of using examples which you will not be able to pass off as classic Thor victories. As of now, you have King Thor and a stalemate.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Jurgens said that as a direct consequence of Odin's power being inconsistently portrayed, and he would be right, as every character has high/low showings. Odin is no exception. It does not matter what the odin-power is. The fact is that Thor was stated to have it. In fact, "he had to have it".

Even if Odin's power was planetary, can you quantify how much power that is? I certainly do not want to speculate there, but I am willing to bet that the power-up would be substantial enough to allow Thor to be disqualified from being classic Thor.

Because Thor was obviously not physically superior, and the fight was only ended by Thor being thrown into the wall. If Thor could not claim superiority, and Hulk was not knocked out, how does that constitute a victory?

Show me the other victories then, instead of using examples which you will not be able to pass off as classic Thor victories. As of now, you have King Thor and a stalemate.

However Odin's never been portrayed under planet level, so....

And he did have it. For a small portion of the battle at least. However what's printed in the pages of the comics and etched in the history of Marvel is the implication of Thor's connection to the Odin Power being severed.

But Odin's beyond planetary..... In fact he's destroyed planets like an hills in a battle with Forsung.

Which has no relevance to Thor having the upper hand against Hulk, which is obviously depicted in the above scans.

I don't have to, I don't wish to, it has no relevance to this thread. However if the situation requires it, I'll surely make you look foolish again.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
However Odin's never been portrayed under planet level, so....

And he did have it. For a small portion of the battle at least. However what's printed in the pages of the comics and etched in the history of Marvel is the implication of Thor's connection to the Odin Power being severed.

But Odin's beyond planetary..... In fact he's destroyed planets like an hills in a battle with Forsung.

Which has no relevance to Thor having the upper hand against Hulk, which is obviously depicted in the above scans.

I don't have to, I don't wish to, it has no relevance to this thread. However if the situation requires it, I'll surely make you look foolish again.

Define planetary level.

Based on what Strange said? I reckon that writer > Strange.

Duh. I know what Odin has done, hence the "even if" portion. Once again, define planetary level, because I am willing to bet that it would be a significant power up still. Would the elders be below planetary level save Ego? I await your definition.

Which has no relevance at all, since no one lost in the scans, unless you think a cave collapsing would render the hulk unable to battle, when even the comic showed otherwise.

I'm pretty sure I have read all their battles. I welcome the opportunity to see you make a stand for selective interpretation once again.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Define planetary level.

Based on what Strange said? I reckon that writer > Strange.

Duh. I know what Odin has done, hence the "even if" portion. Once again, define planetary level, because I am willing to bet that it would be a significant power up still. Would the elders be below planetary level save Ego? I await your definition.

Which has no relevance at all, since no one lost in the scans, unless you think a cave collapsing would render the hulk unable to battle, when even the comic showed otherwise.

I'm pretty sure I have read all their battles. I welcome the opportunity to see you make a stand for selective interpretation once again.

One who power is limited to confines of a planet, or planetary destruction.

Considering the writer wrote what Strange said I'd say Strange's word = The writers.

What the hell are you talking about?

Um yes it does. Those who have the upper hand are considered winners of the bout, even if that bout is suddenly interrupted.

You hadn't read the one above, and based on your knowledge of their win loss ratio I doubt you've read this one as well.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IncredibleHulkv2-300-28.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IncredibleHulkv2-300-29.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IncredibleHulkv2-300-32.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IncredibleHulkv2-300-33.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IncredibleHulkv2-300-34.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IncredibleHulkv2-300-35.jpg

Again Thor with the upper hand, this time against Mindless Hulk. smile

King Kandy
Originally posted by Larceny
You're correct, there isn't. Thor beating BRB has no relevance to PG users being physically overpowered or Drax having the PG beaten out of him. smile
They were physicaly overpowered by THOR.

Thor beat BRB horribly at that level. How this translates into BRB being able to replicate WMThor's feat is beyond me, considering that WMThor is 10x as strong.

Larceny
Originally posted by King Kandy
They were physicaly overpowered by THOR.

Thor beat BRB horribly at that level. How this translates into BRB being able to replicate WMThor's feat is beyond me, considering that WMThor is 10x as strong.

Thats true. However BRB had no relevance to the discussion at that time.

Yes he did, along with Silver Surfer, Adam Warlock, and a host of others. However they, along with BRB, had no relevance to the PG being beaten out of Drax.

Never said he could replicate Thor's feat, only that it's possible for a PG user to be overpowered.

The 10x as strong thing? Fluke. It was never stated. smile

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
One who power is limited to confines of a planet, or planetary destruction.

Considering the writer wrote what Strange said I'd say Strange's word = The writers.

What the hell are you talking about?

Um yes it does. Those who have the upper hand are considered winners of the bout, even if that bout is suddenly interrupted.

You hadn't read the one above, and based on your knowledge of their win loss ratio I doubt you've read this one as well.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IncredibleHulkv2-300-28.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IncredibleHulkv2-300-29.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IncredibleHulkv2-300-32.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IncredibleHulkv2-300-33.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IncredibleHulkv2-300-34.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IncredibleHulkv2-300-35.jpg

Again Thor with the upper hand, this time against Mindless Hulk. smile

Ego's power is planetary in nature. The other elders have never shown such power, save champion, who was the only one who destroyed a planet, and that was with PG. Unless your definition has space-faring beings as outside planetary level, which is pretty stupid. Yet, I bet at least a couple of the elders would take a majority against Thor. That kind of power-up isn't enough to invalidate classic Thor?

And that same writer stated after the comic was released that Thor had the Odin-power, I fail to see where the argument is.

Your scans from journey into mystery simply have a truncated battle. They in no way show a victor, seeing as the fight was physical, and Thor already stated that he could not claim superiority. If anything, Hulk traded blows, overpowered Thor and tossed him away. The collapse was simply luck in Thor's favour, and would never have stopped the hulk. You can argue otherwise, but I don't see how you can prove that.

You call a cave collapsing as the result of Thor being thrown into it an upper hand, and insinuate that the hulk would have taken a loss because of that? Carry on reaching.

Obviously I have not read that. Keep believing that. Hulk #300. I didn't know Hulk vs Thor included interruptions from other heroes, ending with a bfr by Strange.

Avengers3? Not Thor alone once again.

Fantastic 4#26? Not Thor alone.

Defenders#10? Both standing.

Sub-mariner #35? Hulk had upper hand = victory by your standards.

Hulk #255? I would call this a stalemate, but Thor stops fighting, and Hulk lifts mjolnir. Certainly counts as a victory by your standards.

Thor #385? Thor threw away mjolnir due to circumstances, and was beaten badly. Hate to say this, but that's a win for hulk by your standards.

Thor #498? Stalemate. I may give a slight advantage to Thor because hulk seemed to exert more than Thor, but not enough for a win.

Hulk #440? I'm pretty sure you were going to use this. Most respect threads for Thor cut off when Thor enters WM and hulk is hit by a bomb, but fail to state that hulk pretty much saved Thor by punching him away from the nuke's ground zero, and survived the nuke himself. Victory to hulk on a technicality.

Hulk annual 2001? Thor was knocked out.

Do the math.

Mr. Slippyfist
What happens if Drax has the PG on his head instead of his gut?

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Ego's power is planetary in nature. The other elders have never shown such power, save champion, who was the only one who destroyed a planet, and that was with PG. Unless your definition has space-faring beings as outside planetary level, which is pretty stupid. Yet, I bet at least a couple of the elders would take a majority against Thor. That kind of power-up isn't enough to invalidate classic Thor?

And that same writer stated after the comic was released that Thor had the Odin-power, I fail to see where the argument is.

Your scans from journey into mystery simply have a truncated battle. They in no way show a victor, seeing as the fight was physical, and Thor already stated that he could not claim superiority.

You call a cave collapsing as the result of Thor being thrown into it an upper hand, and insinuate that the hulk would have taken a loss because of that? Carry on reaching.

Obviously I have not read that. Keep believing that. Hulk #300. I didn't know Hulk vs Thor included interruptions from other heroes, ending with a bfr by Strange.

Avengers3? Not Thor alone once again.

Fantastic 4#26? Not Thor alone.

Defenders#10? Both standing.

Sub-mariner #35? Hulk had upper hand = victory by your standards.

Hulk #255? I would call this a stalemate, but Thor stops fighting, and Hulk lifts mjolnir. Certainly counts as a victory by your standards.

Thor #385? Thor threw away mjolnir due to circumstances, and was beaten badly. Hate to say this, but that's a win for hulk by your standards.

Thor #498? Stalemate. I may give a slight advantage to Thor because hulk seemed to exert more than Thor, but not enough for a win.

Hulk #440? I'm pretty sure you were going to use this. Most respect threads for Thor cut off when Thor enters WM and hulk is hit by a bomb, but fail to state that hulk pretty much saved Thor by punching him away from the nuke's ground zero, and survived the nuke himself. Victory to hulk on a technicality.

Hulk annual 2001? Thor was knocked out.

Do the math.

No relevance to the thread.... but sure, I'll allow you to continue to ramble on about nothingness.

That was after the comic released. When it was published, you know by Marvel, who possesses rights to all characters, Thor's connection to the Odin power was severed mid battle.

They show Thor with the upper hand, which in most cases would be considered a win.

Thor was winning before the cave collapsed..... he was winning the entire time. He had the upper hand, he won.

You keep posting your half truths, and I'll keep posting scans......

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/4.jpg

Another win for Thor.... thats 4

King Kandy
Originally posted by Larceny
Thats true. However BRB had no relevance to the discussion at that time.

Yes he did, along with Silver Surfer, Adam Warlock, and a host of others. However they, along with BRB, had no relevance to the PG being beaten out of Drax.

Never said he could replicate Thor's feat, only that it's possible for a PG user to be overpowered.

The 10x as strong thing? Fluke. It was never stated. smile
Well it's possible to overpower a PG user, but since the one who did it is 10x Beta Ray Bill, you have no proof BRB can do such an act.

Red Shift
Originally posted by Larceny
No relevance to the thread.... but sure, I'll allow you to continue to ramble on about nothingness.

That was after the comic released. When it was published, you know by Marvel, who possesses rights to all characters, Thor's connection to the Odin power was severed mid battle.

They show Thor with the upper hand, which in most cases would be considered a win.

Thor was winning before the cave collapsed..... he was winning the entire time. He had the upper hand, he won.

You keep posting your half truths, and I'll keep posting scans......

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/4.jpg

Another win for Thor.... thats 4

What a ****ing hackjob.

Of course, don't post Hulk beating Thor bloody with all of three attacks and knocking him out under a mountain slide.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
No relevance to the thread.... but sure, I'll allow you to continue to ramble on about nothingness.

That was after the comic released. When it was published, you know by Marvel, who possesses rights to all characters, Thor's connection to the Odin power was severed mid battle.

They show Thor with the upper hand, which in most cases would be considered a win.

Thor was winning before the cave collapsed..... he was winning the entire time. He had the upper hand, he won.

You keep posting your half truths, and I'll keep posting scans......

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/4.jpg

Another win for Thor.... thats 4

Those "ramblings" simply show you how difficult it is to quantify planetary level power. I can't be blamed for your inability to understand, but I symphathise.

Sure. Keep telling yourself that. When the person who has written the comic states his rationale behind the comic, do ignore it.

Thor traded blows with Hulk, got overpowered, and thrown into the cave wall. Enlarge the scans and look at them better. You obviously are looking at them wrong.

In most cases would equal a win? I would say selective reasoning. No matter. Hulk's wins have been listed for you.

Do you even know what comic those scans are from, or do you just use Souja's scans without reading the entire comic? If you use that, I would add two wins to the Hulk's tally instead of one. Thrown into mountain and did not emerge + knocked out at the end.

So we have King Thor (not classic Thor), Journey into mystery #112 (stalemate) and Hulk#300 (Other heroes and military involved = disqualified from counting) from you, all of which yield nothing. Insert your token. Try again.

Red Shift
Don't forget the Defenders/Avenger's stalemate.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Red Shift
What a ****ing hackjob.

Of course, don't post Hulk beating Thor bloody with all of three attacks and knocking him out under a mountain slide.

He obviously borrowed the scans from another user (souja) and did not read the rest of the comic. Left out the mountain and the ko at the end.

Listed King Thor as a victory, and Hulk #300 when it was not 1v1, and even then arguably a stalemate. But yeah, I know nothing about Thor and Hulk.

Larceny
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well it's possible to overpower a PG user, but since the one who did it is 10x Beta Ray Bill, you have no proof BRB can do such an act.

Since you simply ignore the actuality that WM Thor was never stated to be 10x as strong as base level Thor I'll ask you to provide proof of your claims. smile

Ouallada
Originally posted by Red Shift
Don't forget the Defenders/Avenger's stalemate.

I listed Avengers3 and Defenders10 for those. Are there any more?

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
He obviously borrowed the scans from another user (souja) and did not read the rest of the comic. Left out the mountain and the ko at the end.

Listed King Thor as a victory, and Hulk #300 when it was not 1v1, and even then arguably a stalemate. But yeah, I know nothing about Thor and Hulk.

I am Soujaboy you dufus. smile

That was a single fight in a long list of ongoing bouts. In that instance Hulk was ko'd, thus it counts as a loss. I'll post the end of it.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/1-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/2-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/4-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/6.jpg

Looks like Hulk proved helpless against Thor's power. Another win for Thor..... thats 5.

You don't. You claimed Hulk had more wins than Thor in one on one match ups and have done nothing to support your claims. I on the other hand have posted 5 instances in which Thor's had the upper hand against Hulk at the end of a scuffle.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Those "ramblings" simply show you how difficult it is to quantify planetary level power. I can't be blamed for your inability to understand, but I symphathise.

Sure. Keep telling yourself that. When the person who has written the comic states his rationale behind the comic, do ignore it.

Thor traded blows with Hulk, got overpowered, and thrown into the cave wall. Enlarge the scans and look at them better. You obviously are looking at them wrong.

In most cases would equal a win? I would say selective reasoning. No matter. Hulk's wins have been listed for you.

Do you even know what comic those scans are from, or do you just use Souja's scans without reading the entire comic? If you use that, I would add two wins to the Hulk's tally instead of one. Thrown into mountain and did not emerge + knocked out at the end.

So we have King Thor (not classic Thor), Journey into mystery #112 (stalemate) and Hulk#300 (Other heroes and military involved = disqualified from counting) from you, all of which yield nothing. Insert your token. Try again.

As I do for you. Your inability to back up your claims with actual evidence is pathetic. Or is it you lied, thinking I me oblivious to the outcome of the battles? Also, you may wanna correct all grammar mistakes before making the ill attempt at insulting one's intelligence. Sym-pa-thize.

Or chose to ignore the print in the comic? I'd much rather ignore the unofficial statement of the writer. smile

He didn't get overpowered.... He had the upper hand the entire time.

Well yes. When one character has the upper hand against the other in most cases the character with the upper hand is considered the winner.

Those are my scans dufus. I am Soujaboy. smile

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by Larceny
Those are my scans dufus. I am Soujaboy. smile What's your newest song you're working on?

Larceny
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
What's your newest song you're working on?

Crank that Big Bran. band

UniOmni
DAMN YOUNGSTERS KILLING MY HIP HOP!!!

Larceny
Originally posted by UniOmni
DAMN YOUNGSTERS KILLING MY HIP HOP!!!

I like Cassidy. Lyrically one of, if not the best rappers alive. ermm

King Kandy
Originally posted by Larceny
Since you simply ignore the actuality that WM Thor was never stated to be 10x as strong as base level Thor I'll ask you to provide proof of your claims. smile
Actualy it was. In it's very first appearence (When Thor fought Warlock/Him), Warrior Madness was said to enhance Thor's strength tenfold.

UniOmni
Originally posted by Larceny
I like Cassidy. Lyrically one of, if not the best rappers alive. ermm

Not by a long shot.

He's of the metaphor crowd, which is a huge crowd at the moment.

Until he can keep pace with the BEST mc alive(Common), he's nobody.

Larceny
Originally posted by King Kandy
Actualy it was. In it's very first appearence (When Thor fought Warlock/Him), Warrior Madness was said to enhance Thor's strength tenfold.

Actually I don't think it was. Proof would be nice though.

Larceny
Originally posted by UniOmni
Not by a long shot.

He's of the metaphor crowd, which is a huge crowd at the moment.

Until he can keep pace with the BEST mc alive(Common), he's nobody.

Easily.

He can rap without the metaphors, although metaphorically he's the best.

He's easily better.

King Kandy
Originally posted by Larceny
Actually I don't think it was. Proof would be nice though.
Well I don't have a scanner, but my copy of "Essential Thor volume three" includes that issue and it most certainly has that statement.

Larceny
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well I don't have a scanner, but my copy of "Essential Thor volume three" includes that issue and it most certainly has that statement.

I don't see it, nor has anyone else. Confirmation of your claim would be detrimental to the further development of this debate. Otherwise, you have nothing. sad

King Kandy
Well I can't prove it but the next time you go to a bookstore that carries said volume, I'd like you to check it out.

I think it's funny that since I don't have a scanner, you won't take my word for anything even though I own the relevant issue.

SuperiorTech
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well I can't prove it but the next time you go to a bookstore that carries said volume, I'd like you to check it out.

I think it's funny that since I don't have a scanner, you won't take my word for anything even though I own the relevant issue.

If you have the issue # I can post the scans for you.

Larceny
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well I can't prove it

And thats where I lost interest.

Larceny
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
If you have the issue # I can post the scans for you.

Please do. I need this confirmation, because the comic I have don't have that. smile

Mr. Slippyfist
Essential Thor v3 collects from the first time Thor had WM, and the first time he had it was in 165, 166... when he fought Him.

Unfortunately in 165/166, it says nothing that I've seen that raises Thor's strength even a little. sad

King Kandy
Really? I'll have to check that out. Well I have seen the scan somewhere and I'll find it for you.

Larceny
Originally posted by King Kandy
Really? I'll have to check that out. Well I have seen the scan somewhere and I'll find it for you.

That'd be good, because lack of proof sure isn't getting you anywhere. smile

King Kandy
Here it is:

http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor50201qw8.jpg

Larceny
Originally posted by King Kandy
Here it is:

http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor50201qw8.jpg

And Warrior Madness is where? confused

King Kandy
Well Berzerker Rage... They could be the same thing but I'm not above admitting I was wrong.

But if they are the same thing then I am right.

Larceny
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well Berzerker Rage... They could be

And thats where I lost interest.

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by Larceny
And Warrior Madness is where? confused Different name... same description-ish.

King Kandy
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Different name...same description-ish.
Exactly.

Larceny
Originally posted by King Kandy
Exactly.

Exactly what I figured you'd post. Something inconsequential to the debate. Go figure.

Larceny
No where's Uni? We have hip hop to discuss. cool

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
As I do for you. Your inability to back up your claims with actual evidence is pathetic. Or is it you lied, thinking I me oblivious to the outcome of the battles? Also, you may wanna correct all grammar mistakes before making the ill attempt at insulting one's intelligence. Sym-pa-thize.

Or chose to ignore the print in the comic? I'd much rather ignore the unofficial statement of the writer. smile

He didn't get overpowered.... He had the upper hand the entire time.

Well yes. When one character has the upper hand against the other in most cases the character with the upper hand is considered the winner.

Those are my scans dufus. I am Soujaboy. smile

The evidence is all in the issues I provided. If you even read Hulk Annual 2001, you will understand why Thor did not win in that comic. So, you're the grammar police now? Sympathise is the british version. Are you being ignorant as well as xenophobic now?

Seeing as it was made in an interview, and seeing as the comic was written by him, sure. Do what you want. It still isn't correct.

According to you. Trading blows and getting overpowered in a tie-up does not equal an upper hand.

In which cases did Thor have the upper hand? The issue in which he was king Thor? I give you that. The issue in which he fought mindless? Silly. I didn't know that Thor vs Hulk = Thor + other heroes and military vs Hulk. Hulk Annual 2001? End of battle had Thor out cold. If you split the battle into its three segments, Thor was beaten twice out of three.

You can't be. I remember him being more capable than this. So, address the issues that I listed please, and I shall teach you how to read them properly.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
I am Soujaboy you dufus. smile

That was a single fight in a long list of ongoing bouts. In that instance Hulk was ko'd, thus it counts as a loss. I'll post the end of it.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/1-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/2-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/4-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/6.jpg

Looks like Hulk proved helpless against Thor's power. Another win for Thor..... thats 5.

You don't. You claimed Hulk had more wins than Thor in one on one match ups and have done nothing to support your claims. I on the other hand have posted 5 instances in which Thor's had the upper hand against Hulk at the end of a scuffle.

Thor was obviously out. Even if he got up, that still counts as a technical loss by forum rules. After that, I fail to see where the hulk was knocked out, and the hulk even helped out with the hero work.

That's more like 0. Maybe 1. At best.

King Thor = Thor

Thor + Other heroes/military/strange = Thor

Thor getting overpowered and tossed into a wall = victory

Thor getting incapacitated twice by hulk in the same comic + having the hulk having to save the soldiers = Thor win

Ever considered a spot on comedy central?

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Thor was obviously out. Even if he got up, that still counts as a technical loss by forum rules. After that, I fail to see where the hulk was knocked out, and the hulk even helped out with the hero work.

That's more like 0. Maybe 1. At best.

King Thor = Thor

Thor + Other heroes/military/strange = Thor

Thor getting overpowered and tossed into a wall = victory

Thor getting incapacitated twice by hulk in the same comic + having the hulk having to save the soldiers = Thor win

Ever considered a spot on comedy central?

Hold up, I gotta stop shaking my head. no

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Thor was obviously out. Even if he got up, that still counts as a technical loss by forum rules. After that, I fail to see where the hulk was knocked out, and the hulk even helped out with the hero work.

That's more like 0. Maybe 1. At best.

King Thor = Thor

Thor + Other heroes/military/strange = Thor

Thor getting overpowered and tossed into a wall = victory

Thor getting incapacitated twice by hulk in the same comic + having the hulk having to save the soldiers = Thor win

Ever considered a spot on comedy central?

He was out? After being cheap shotted he was up on the next panel.

He wasn't knocked out, however he was briefly shown to be helpless against Thor's power. He then got up and left the fight. Running away after being owned usually counts as a loss.

Nope, wrong again. What makes it worse is your attempts at arguing against actual proof.

Thor has gained the advantage or beaten Hulk 4 or 5 times.
Hulk has beaten him once, and the other time is debatable. The remaining times were a cheapshot from Hulk, stalemates, or unfinished.

In that issue King Thor = Thor without Mjolnir or the Odin Power.

Different instance buddy.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/king16hd.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/king27yh.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor16wf.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor27ff.jpg

He has the Odin Power here.

No, Thor owning Hulk throughout the fight = victory.

No, Hulk being owned and running = Loss.

Nope. smile

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
The evidence is all in the issues I provided. If you even read Hulk Annual 2001, you will understand why Thor did not win in that comic. So, you're the grammar police now? Sympathise is the british version. Are you being ignorant as well as xenophobic now?

Seeing as it was made in an interview, and seeing as the comic was written by him, sure. Do what you want. It still isn't correct.

According to you. Trading blows and getting overpowered in a tie-up does not equal an upper hand.

In which cases did Thor have the upper hand? The issue in which he was king Thor? I give you that. The issue in which he fought mindless? Silly. I didn't know that Thor vs Hulk = Thor + other heroes and military vs Hulk. Hulk Annual 2001? End of battle had Thor out cold. If you split the battle into its three segments, Thor was beaten twice out of three.

You can't be. I remember him being more capable than this. So, address the issues that I listed please, and I shall teach you how to read them properly.

No, I'm not. However I find it ironic and quite funny that you'd make a grammar mistake while attempting to insult one's intelligence.

Considering that interview has no bearing what so ever on Marvel entertainment, you're correct, I do find it quite useless.

He wasn't trading blows, he was getting owned. However if you insist, I'll post the entire fight.

More capable of owning you? It isn't hard, you have no proof and you're clutching straws. The more I post fights, the less credible your "Hulk has more wins" statement is. In fact, I'll post another fight.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/1-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/2-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/4-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/5-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/6-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/8.jpg

Stalemate. Another fight where Hulk leaves without a win.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Hold up, I gotta stop shaking my head. no

Same. my joints are creaking from all the laughter.

Tommy05
In the annual.

It goes:

Hulk win.
Thor win.
Stalemate because Hulk gets bored.

Then loses to rain.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
No, I'm not. However I find it ironic and quite funny that you'd make a grammar mistake while attempting to insult one's intelligence.

Considering that interview has no bearing what so ever on Marvel entertainment, you're correct, I do find it quite useless.

He wasn't trading blows, he was getting owned. However if you insist, I'll post the entire fight.

More capable of owning you? It isn't hard, you have no proof and you're clutching straws. The more I post fights, the less credible your "Hulk has more wins" statement is. In fact, I'll post another fight.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/1-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/2-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/4-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/5-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/6-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/8.jpg

Stalemate. Another fight where Hulk leaves without a win.

If you like, I could easily show you examples of you doing the exact same, once again a case of pot kettle black, as you attempt to insult another while commiting a worse mistake. I'm not a grammar nazi though, although I still do sympathise with your inability to define planetary levels of power properly.

An interview by the same writer who penned the comic? To be honest, his statement > yours. Thor "had to have the odin-power".

For journey into mystery, it was a physical battle, and Thor himself claimed an inability to claim a physical superiority. Sure, post it, and I will tell you how to read it right.

Nope, I am just using the same logic as you do when validating wins. It takes one to know one.

I never claimed a Hulk win in that comic. Do you even know which comic it is from?

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Same. my joints are creaking from all the laughter.

At your victimization of my ownage? smile

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/1-3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/2-3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3-3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/4-3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/5-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/6-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/7-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/8-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/9.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/10.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/11.jpg

Another inconclusive stalemate. Where are all these Hulk wins?

Ouallada
Originally posted by Tommy05
In the annual.

It goes:

Hulk win.
Thor win.
Stalemate because Hulk gets bored.

Then loses to rain.

Normally I would take that route. However, IF someone were to give Thor a win over SS because a WM Thor with PG beat SS, Thor getting knocked down and out counts as a loss as per forum rules. Nothing consequential happened after that. The rain only seperated the two.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
At your victimization of my ownage? smile

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/1-3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/2-3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3-3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/4-3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/5-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/6-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/7-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/8-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/9.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/10.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/11.jpg

Another inconclusive stalemate. Where are all these Hulk wins?

I am not here to own anyone and gain e-pride. Carry on expounding how much you "own" if you like. Doesn't make it true.

I counted that as a hulk win, because he saved Thor from the nuke by knocking him away from ground zero, while trading shots with a Thor that was arguably in warrior madness. We could go through this blow for blow if you like. Hulk got in more shots and was in a position of ascendency, and saved Thor from the nuke. I need say no more.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
If you like, I could easily show you examples of you doing the exact same, once again a case of pot kettle black, as you attempt to insult another while commiting a worse mistake. I'm not a grammar nazi though, although I still do sympathise with your inability to define planetary levels of power properly.

An interview by the same writer who penned the comic? To be honest, his statement > yours. Thor "had to have the odin-power".

For journey into mystery, it was a physical battle, and Thor himself claimed an inability to claim a physical superiority. Sure, post it, and I will tell you how to read it right.

Nope, I am just using the same logic as you do when validating wins. It takes one to know one.

I never claimed a Hulk win in that comic. Do you even know which comic it is from?

Sure, buddy.

An interview of a writer who has no rights to the comic or the character about a comic published by Marvel entertainment in which Thor's connection to the Odin Power was severed.

Physical superiority doesn't = win.

Having the upper hand in the fight = win.

Actually your debating style is nothing like my own. I provide scans and evidence, while you on the other hand watch as your argument crumbles before your eyes. Your claim that Hulk has more win over Thor is being trashed.

Which comic? I've posted so many comics where Hulk didn't have the win that I've lost track. Are you talking about the Journey Into the Mystery comic where Thor asked Odin for time to prove his physical superiority over Hulk?

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
I am not here to own anyone and gain e-pride. Carry on expounding how much you "own" if you like. Doesn't make it true.

I counted that as a hulk win, because he saved Thor from the nuke by knocking him away from ground zero, while trading shots with a Thor that was arguably in warrior madness. We could go through this blow for blow if you like. Hulk got in more shots and was in a position of ascendency, and saved Thor from the nuke. I need say no more.

Your being owned. You made a baseless claim with no proof and now you're paying the price.

Because he punched him in the air as the bomb launched? Keep clutching those straws buddy.

Warrior Madness? He began his transition into Warrior Madness shortly before he was knocked into the air. Claiming Hulk fought a Warrior Madness induced Thor is only increases the hilarity of your post.

Go through it blow for blow if you like, including the lightning strike. You'll end up with an inconclusive fight stopped only by the launching of a bomb. BTW, that bomb wouldn't have killed Thor.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/planetdestruction.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/planetdestruction2.jpg

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Sure, buddy.

An interview of a writer who has no rights to the comic or the character about a comic published by Marvel entertainment in which Thor's connection to the Odin Power was severed.

Physical superiority doesn't = win.

Having the upper hand in the fight = win.

Actually your debating style is nothing like my own. I provide scans and evidence, while you on the other hand watch as your argument crumbles before your eyes. Your claim that Hulk has more win over Thor is being trashed.

Which comic? I've posted so many comics where Hulk didn't have the win that I've lost track. Are you talking about the Journey Into the Mystery comic where Thor asked Odin for time to prove his physical superiority over Hulk?

Obviously, and you know it just as well as I do.

An interview of a writer who affirmed the existence of the Odin-power in Thor. It isn't speculation. It is a statement. That is the same reason interviews are carried out on directors and novel writers.

The business part of the fight was purely physical. I don't know how anyone can read it any other way.

I would not like to debate like you. Thank you very much for confirming that. I've provided the issues. The scans are just a flip away. It would not be an issue if you have the issues or have read them. Yup I am being thrashed. So says the person who claims that a group effort on hulk somehow equals to a Thor victory.

No. I have read all the comics that you have posted. I refer to the one which you call a stalemate, which Hulk leaves without a win. The journey into mystery comic has been discussed above by both of us.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Normally I would take that route. However, IF someone were to give Thor a win over SS because a WM Thor with PG beat SS, Thor getting knocked down and out counts as a loss as per forum rules. Nothing consequential happened after that. The rain only seperated the two.

You really gotta stop these outlandish claims. It may help with retaining a tad bit of credibility.

Thor doesn't have the PG when he fights Surfer.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS15.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS16.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS17.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS18.jpg

He doesn't get it until a few issues later.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity7.jpg

Also, Thor wasn't knocked out. He was up on the same page, next panel.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3-1.jpg

Hulk was shown helpless, and then ran away from the fight. In other words, he lost.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Your being owned. You made a baseless claim with no proof and now you're paying the price.

Because he punched him in the air as the bomb launched? Keep clutching those straws buddy.

Warrior Madness? He began his transition into Warrior Madness shortly before he was knocked into the air. Claiming Hulk fought a Warrior Madness induced Thor is only increases the hilarity of your post.

Go through it blow for blow if you like, including the lightning strike. You'll end up with an inconclusive fight stopped only by the launching of a bomb. BTW, that bomb wouldn't have killed Thor.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/planetdestruction.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/planetdestruction2.jpg

The evidence is all there in the listed issues. The only thing you are rejecting it on is subjective perception, while exaggerating your own stance. I call a spade a spade. Do watch your grammar though. I am afraid you will make the mistake of being a pot which calls a kettle black again.

Because he became lucid, and said out loud in a speech bubble: "Thor! You have to get out of here.". Put two and two together.

Hence the word "arguably".

The same way being impaled would not have killed Hulk, and neither would a cave collapse stop him.

Hulk landed more blows. Simple as that. I would not trust you with math though, seeing as you obviously cannot count the number of wins Thor has, which as of now stands at zero. Maybe one, which is the one I gave him in my earlier post.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
You really gotta stop these outlandish claims. It may help with retaining a tad bit of credibility.

Thor doesn't have the PG when he fights Surfer.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS15.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS16.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS17.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS18.jpg

He doesn't get it until a few issues later.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity7.jpg

Also, Thor wasn't knocked out. He was up on the same page, next panel.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3-1.jpg

Hulk was shown helpless, and then ran away from the fight. In other words, he lost.

None more outlandish that that being normal Thor. That is all that is needed to invalidate.

If you have any experience in perhaps MA practice or combat training, getting knocked-out does not equal to lying down on the mat for eternities all the time. Losing consciousness and regaining consciousness can be seperated by mere seconds. Thor was out. He regained consciousness. That counts as a loss per forum rules.

Stupid logic? Sure. I hate debating for hulk, but it's pretty sound according to your logical patterns and nuances.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Obviously, and you know it just as well as I do.

An interview of a writer who affirmed the existence of the Odin-power in Thor. It isn't speculation. It is a statement. That is the same reason interviews are carried out on directors and novel writers.

The business part of the fight was purely physical. I don't know how anyone can read it any other way.

I would not like to debate like you. Thank you very much for confirming that. I've provided the issues. The scans are just a flip away. It would not be an issue if you have the issues or have read them. Yup I am being thrashed. So says the person who claims that a group effort on hulk somehow equals to a Thor victory.

No. I have read all the comics that you have posted. I refer to the one which you call a stalemate, which Hulk leaves without a win. The journey into mystery comic has been discussed above by both of us.


laughing

His statement doesn't matter, because it contradicts what was written and published in Marvel's book. Stated on panel, in big bold words clear enough for all to see.

Thor makes mention of the Odin Power being above them all.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorvseverybody5.jpg

The next page Strange confirms that Thor's connection to the Odin Power has been severed. It's mad evident by the loss of his abilities.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorvseverybody6.jpg

As Loki nullifies and removes the artifact that severed the connection Thor regains his abilities.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/page0203wn-1.jpg

If you've read and have knowledge of all the issues. Where did you come to the conclusion that Hulk has more wins over Thor?

batdude123
Bill.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
laughing

His statement doesn't matter, because it contradicts what was written and published in Marvel's book. Stated on panel, in big bold words clear enough for all to see.

Thor makes mention of the Odin Power being above them all.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorvseverybody5.jpg

The next page Strange confirms that Thor's connection to the Odin Power has been severed. It's mad evident by the loss of his abilities.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorvseverybody6.jpg

As Loki nullifies and removes the artifact that severed the connection Thor regains his abilities.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/page0203wn-1.jpg

If you've read and have knowledge of all the issues. Where did you come to the conclusion that Hulk has more wins over Thor?

Doesn't change the truth. Pot kettle black.

Of course it doesn't matter. The statement of the person who wrote the comic does not matter. I guess you should be part of the floor during an interview discussing the contents of a novel and scream at the author that anything that does not follow the novel to a T holds no weight.

It's funny. I've read all the issues and listed the discussable ones in an earlier post. Where do I get the knowledge that Hulk has more wins than Thor from? From abovementioned comics.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
None more outlandish that that being normal Thor. That is all that is needed to invalidate.

If you have any experience in perhaps MA practice or combat training, getting knocked-out does not equal to lying down on the mat for eternities all the time. Losing consciousness and regaining consciousness can be seperated by mere seconds. Thor was out. He regained consciousness. That counts as a loss per forum rules.

Stupid logic? Sure. I hate debating for hulk, but it's pretty sound according to your logical patterns and nuances.

Who said it was normal Thor? We all know it's Thor in the self imposed state of Warrior Madness.

How do you know Thor was out? The comic didn't even show his face. All you see is Hulk cheap shotting Thor, Thor lays on the ground with his hand in the air, Mjolnir lands in his hand as it normally does, and Thor gets back and commences in owning Hulk.

You have nothing. Your clutching to nothing. You made a baseless claim, and are being owned for it. Admit you were wrong, and leave the debate with a little credibility.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Doesn't change the truth. Pot kettle black.

Of course it doesn't matter. The statement of the person who wrote the comic does not matter. I guess you should be part of the floor during an interview discussing the contents of a novel and scream at the author that anything that does not follow the novel to a T holds no weight.

It's funny. I've read all the issues and listed the discussable ones in an earlier post. Where do I get the knowledge that Hulk has more wins than Thor from? From abovementioned comics.

That the comic published has Thor without the Odin Power? confused

You're correct, it doesn't. What's published is published, what's published is law. What's published is Thor killing Hulk without Mjolnir and with his connection to the Odin Power severed.

The above mentioned comics have been posted, and none have Hulk with a win.

Any more Hulk/Thor fights you need posted?

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Who said it was normal Thor? We all know it's Thor in the self imposed state of Warrior Madness.

How do you know Thor was out? The comic didn't even show his face. All you see is Hulk cheap shotting Thor, Thor lays on the ground with his hand in the air, Mjolnir lands in his hand as it normally does, and Thor gets back and commences in owning Hulk.

You have nothing. Your clutching to nothing. You made a baseless claim, and are being owned for it. Admit you were wrong, and leave the debate with a little credibility.

Then why count it as a win for Thor against SS, when it is evidently not WM Thor we are discussing?

"Abruptly, it's over." "Beaten beyond reason". It is only logical that a KO or TKO has been achieved.

Once again, grammar. Pot kettle black. I do love it when you sign every post with your claims of ownage. Your efforts would be better used on keeping your head above water, rather than focusing on how large your e-member is. As said, the issues have been provided. Just because you refuse to accept reality due to a cognitive predisposition to a character does not invalidate reality.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
The evidence is all there in the listed issues. The only thing you are rejecting it on is subjective perception, while exaggerating your own stance. I call a spade a spade. Do watch your grammar though. I am afraid you will make the mistake of being a pot which calls a kettle black again.

Because he became lucid, and said out loud in a speech bubble: "Thor! You have to get out of here.". Put two and two together.

Hence the word "arguably".

The same way being impaled would not have killed Hulk, and neither would a cave collapse stop him.

Hulk landed more blows. Simple as that. I would not trust you with math though, seeing as you obviously cannot count the number of wins Thor has, which as of now stands at zero. Maybe one, which is the one I gave him in my earlier post.

Which have been posted in actual scans, displaying that what you claimed was a lie.

Correct my grammar, it's the only piece of this discussion you can cling to. You're arguments already been torn to shreds, you might as well discuss grammar.

And that equates to a win how?

But Hulk was shown on panel to be dead, and Thor was shown alive in the air. Big difference. confused

Go ahead and do your play by play. Not that it matters as the fight was ended prematurely, thus left inconclusive. Meaning it's another fight that Hulk didn't win. Go Figure, you lied.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
That the comic published has Thor without the Odin Power? confused

You're correct, it doesn't. What's published is published, what's published is law. What's published is Thor killing Hulk without Mjolnir and with his connection to the Odin Power severed.

The above mentioned comics have been posted, and none have Hulk with a win.

Any more Hulk/Thor fights you need posted?

Thor "had to have it".

Only according to you they don't. More blows landed, saved Thor from nuke. KO/TKO. Incapacitation after flinging opponent into mountain.

You:

King Thor.
Thor + other heroes/military
Unable to prove superiority = victory.
Ignoring front and last segments of a battle = victory.

I am also waiting on your proof that Hulk in the "reigning" was anywhere near actual Hulk levels, as it was a future arc, and hulk has survived much more than being impaled.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Then why count it as a win for Thor against SS, when it is evidently not WM Thor we are discussing?

"Abruptly, it's over." "Beaten beyond reason". It is only logical that a KO or TKO has been achieved.

Once again, grammar. Pot kettle black. I do love it when you sign every post with your claims of ownage. Your efforts would be better used on keeping your head above water, rather than focusing on how large your e-member is. As said, the issues have been provided. Just because you refuse to accept reality due to a cognitive predisposition to a character does not invalidate reality.

Because WM Thor is an enraged, blood lusted Thor. Making WM a possible mind set for Thor to retreat to mid battle, rendering it applicable for forum discussion.

Thor was up in the next panel after Hulk believed him to be incapacitated. Obviously the was prematurely thought to be over. no expression

You're talking about my misuse of "your"? It's fine, your retreating to grammar as a defense mechanism for the beating you've taken. big grin

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Which have been posted in actual scans, displaying that what you claimed was a lie.

Correct my grammar, it's the only piece of this discussion you can cling to. You're arguments already been torn to shreds, you might as well discuss grammar.

And that equates to a win how?

But Hulk was shown on panel to be dead, and Thor was shown alive in the air. Big difference. confused

Go ahead and do your play by play. Not that it matters as the fight was ended prematurely, thus left inconclusive. Meaning it's another fight that Hulk didn't win. Go Figure, you lied.

Yep I lied. Posting scans and posting issues makes no difference if you have read them. I can understand why you were not able to tell the difference though.

I can't be bothered to correct grammar. You brought it up though. It's not really my fault that you are nowhere near as good as you think you are.

I said Thor arguably in WM, meaning if that was true, Hulk traded blows with a WM Thor, and landed more blows, dealing more damage. You said that it was not WM, I said that the caveat was "arguably". Hulk still landed more blows and dealt more damage. Focus on that instead.

I repeat. Hulk landed more blows and dealt more damage. I lied because I did not agree with you? Keep telling yourself that.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Because WM Thor is an enraged, blood lusted Thor. Making WM a possible mind set for Thor to retreat to mid battle, rendering it applicable for forum discussion.

Thor was up in the next panel after Hulk believed him to be incapacitated. Obviously the was prematurely thought to be over. no expression

You're talking about my misuse of "your"? It's fine, your retreating to grammar as a defense mechanism for the beating you've taken. big grin

A distinctly low possibility. There is a huge difference between basing SS vs Thor on powersets, and basing the battle on their previous encounters, which were both heavy in context. Can Thor take a majority? Possibly, but it will not be due in any large part to what we've seen from previous encounters.

Knock-out = knock-out. Knock-out = victory as per forum rules. Stupid logic, but not any worse than what you've shown.

I'm simply educating you on the fact that people who live by the sword die by it. If you are going to insult another based on grammar, at least have some proficiency in the area.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Yep I lied.

I can't be bothered to correct grammar. You brought it up though. It's not really my fault that you are nowhere near as good as you think you are.

I said Thor arguably in WM, meaning if that was true, Hulk traded blows with a WM Thor, and landed more blows, dealing more damage. You said that it was not WM, I said that the caveat was "arguably". Hulk still landed more blows and dealt more damage. Focus on that instead.

I repeat. Hulk landed more blows and dealt more damage. I lied because I did not agree with you? Keep telling yourself that.

I know. smile

I never claimed my grammar was without error. Only that you should check your own before ill attempts at insulting one's intelligence.

The fight was a inconclusive stalemate. Neither character had the upper hand and the battle was ended prematurely due to the launching of the bomb. Clutch if you wish, but I you'll get nowhere.

He didn't. You know this, I know this. smile

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
I know. smile

I never claimed my grammar was without error. Only that you should check your own before ill attempts at insulting one's intelligence.

The fight was a inconclusive stalemate. Neither character had the upper hand and the battle was ended prematurely due to the launching of the bomb. Clutch if you wish, but I you'll get nowhere.

He didn't. You know this, I know this. smile

Sure, quote out of context. Falls in line with the rest of your modus operandi.

Nope, but if you insult another based on it, please try not to feel too aggrieved if your own mistakes in that area get picked on. Also, please do not make that claim. It will surely fail.

More blows, more damage dealt, saved Thor from nuke. If this is "clutching", your Thor "wins" would have more logical holes in them than a chunk of bleu cheese. Oh, and grammar once again.

He did. I know this. You obviously don't.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
A distinctly low possibility. There is a huge difference between basing SS vs Thor on powersets, and basing the battle on their previous encounters, which were both heavy in context. Can Thor take a majority? Possibly, but it will not be due in any large part to what we've seen from previous encounters.

Knock-out = knock-out. Knock-out = victory as per forum rules. Stupid logic, but not any worse than what you've shown.

I'm simply educating you on the fact that people who live by the sword die by it. If you are going to insult another based on grammar, at least have some proficiency in the area.

Ok.....

Thor wasn't knocked out. He got up, and continued owning Hulk.

Again, I never said my grammar was without error. In fact at 16 and a Jr, In high School I expect errors. My point was actually quite similar to yours. Live by the sword die by it. If you wish to insult my intelligence fine, however make sure you make no intellectual errors in the process.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada

More blows, more damage dealt, saved Thor from nuke. If this is "clutching", your Thor "wins" would have more logical holes in them than a chunk of bleu cheese. Oh, and grammar once again.

He did. I know this. You obviously don't.

Huuuhhhh, I guess I have to correct you on this as well. Although how you got to the conclusion that Hulk dealt more damage in a fight in which neither character was knocked out or even bleed is beyond me.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Ok.....

Thor wasn't knocked out. He got up, and continued owning Hulk.

Again, I never said my grammar was without error. In fact at 16 and a Jr, In high School I expect errors. My point was actually quite similar to yours. Live by the sword die by it. If you wish to insult my intelligence fine, however make sure you make no intellectual errors in the process.

To be honest, I do not have a huge problem with Thor taking a majority over SS, even though I believe the opposite to be more likely. I viewed your other account's posts as level-headed, but just dislike your expounding of the previous battles.

If by creating rain to seperate the two, and making Hulk look more like a hero than him, fine, but NOTHING of note happened after the KO. I could quote the comic page once again, but I guess you would ignore it.

I did not question your intelligence. I questioned and still do question your application of it. Lack of intelligence =/= intellectual errors, at least not completely. For that portion of our debate, I simply questioned your inability to understand my saying that planetary level power is difficult to define.

If you have taken insult with anything, I don't mean it and I will not bring up grammar again.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Huuuhhhh, I guess I have to correct you on this as well. Although how you got to the conclusion that Hulk dealt more damage in a fight in which neither character was knocked out or even bleed is beyond me.

Correct me on what?

I read every page, and hulk was in the ascendency. Thor was knocked out, as the quotes suggest and support. Of course, you could say that I support hulk blindly, but rest assured that Thor places much higher than hulk on my preference list. That was how I read it, and how many others read it, even though I speak only for myself.

Larceny
Page 1 - Thor missies, Hulk misses

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/1-3.jpg

Page 2 - They both hit each other.

Thor throws Mjolnir and misses

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/2-3.jpg

Page 3 - Hulk dives at Thor and misses.

Thor punches Hulk.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3-3.jpg

Page 4 - They stalemate in strength.

Hulk punches Thor out of the water.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/4-3.jpg

Page 5 - Nothing

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/5-2.jpg

Page 6 - Nothing

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/6-2.jpg

Page 7 - Thor fries Hulk with lightning.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/7-1.jpg

Page 8 - The collide and stalemate again.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/8-1.jpg

Page 9 - Hulk grabs Thor's face.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/9.jpg

Page 10 - Thor knocks his hand away with Mjolnir.

Hulk knocks Thor away from the bomb.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/10.jpg

Page 11 - Nothing

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/11.jpg



Counting both stalemates and Thor hitting Hulk with Lightning. Both character hit each other an astounding 5 times.

Guess you lied again?

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
To be honest, I do not have a huge problem with Thor taking a majority over SS, even though I believe the opposite to be more likely. I viewed your other account's posts as level-headed, but just dislike your expounding of the previous battles.

If by creating rain to seperate the two, and making Hulk look more like a hero than him, fine, but NOTHING of note happened after the KO. I could quote the comic page once again, but I guess you would ignore it.

I did not question your intelligence. I questioned and still do question your application of it. Lack of intelligence =/= intellectual errors, at least not completely. For that portion of our debate, I simply questioned your inability to understand my saying that planetary level power is difficult to define.

If you have taken insult with anything, I don't mean it and I will not bring up grammar again.

Ok.

Well yes, leaving a character helpless would be considered an effective battle tactic. Hulk had no defense against it, and instead of continuing on with the fight he ran. Thus Thor wins.

I could post the scan again, but I guess you'd ignore it?

Fine.

I didn't feel insulted. smile

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Correct me on what?

I read every page, and hulk was in the ascendency. Thor was knocked out, as the quotes suggest and support. Of course, you could say that I support hulk blindly, but rest assured that Thor places much higher than hulk on my preference list. That was how I read it, and how many others read it, even though I speak only for myself.

Many others? One posted has already corrected you on your claims that Hulk has more wins than vise versa. Why continue to clutch on to them is beyond me. confused

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Page 1 - Thor missies, Hulk misses

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/1-3.jpg

Page 2 - They both hit each other.

Thor throws Mjolnir and misses

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/2-3.jpg

Page 3 - Hulk dives at Thor and misses.

Thor punches Hulk.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3-3.jpg

Page 4 - They stalemate in strength.

Hulk punches Thor out of the water.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/4-3.jpg

Page 5 - Nothing

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/5-2.jpg

Page 6 - Nothing

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/6-2.jpg

Page 7 - Thor fries Hulk with lightning.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/7-1.jpg

Page 8 - The collide and stalemate again.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/8-1.jpg

Page 9 - Hulk grabs Thor's face.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/9.jpg

Page 10 - Thor knocks his hand away with Mjolnir.

Hulk knocks Thor away from the bomb.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/10.jpg

Page 11 - Nothing

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/11.jpg



Counting both stalemates and Thor hitting Hulk with Lightning. Both character hit each other an astounding 5 times.

Guess you lied again?

Page 1- Nothing.

Page 2- Both score hits. (Equal)

Page 3- Both score a hit. (Equal)

Page 4- Hulk uppercuts Thor into air. (Hulk ahead)

Page 5- Thor crashes into ice. Notably in pain. (Hulk further ahead)

Page 6- Nothing. (Hulk still further ahead)

Page 7- Hulk hit by lightning. Visibly smoking while regenerating (Hulk's lead shortened)

Page 8- Collision. No blows struck. Signs that Thor is in WM. (Hulk ahead)

Page 9- Hulk grabs Thor's head, possibly crushing it. (Hulk further ahead)

Page 10- Hulk becomes lucid. Thor hits Hulk's arm with mjolnir as Hulk worries about the situation and is looking upward. Hulk hits Thor into the air, away from nuke. (Equal this round, but Thor's hit was situational. Hulk still ahead by two counts).

Page 11- Nothing.

I did not lie. I just have a better perspective and better ability to count than you. Also, the ability to put aside cognitive perdispositions played a part in my analysis.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Ok.

Well yes, leaving a character helpless would be considered an effective battle tactic. Hulk had no defense against it, and instead of continuing on with the fight he ran. Thus Thor wins.

I could post the scan again, but I guess you'd ignore it?

Fine.

I didn't feel insulted. smile

The flood only seperated the two. Hulk stated that he would not be stopped by it, and even rescued several soldiers. Thor stopped to do the right thing as well, which nullifies your point.

I could interpret it correctly for you again, but I guess you'd ignore it?

Obviously, seeing as you have shown nothing that leads me to conclude otherwise.

You should not. Accepting mistakes with an open mind is the first step to bettering oneself.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
Many others? One posted has already corrected you on your claims that Hulk has more wins than vise versa. Why continue to clutch on to them is beyond me. confused

Correct me on what?

Plenty of other people give Hulk a winning record against Thor too. I've already said that I speak for myself, did I not? Why you continue to flog a dead horse is beyond me.

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Page 1- Nothing.

Page 2- Both score hits. (Equal)

Page 3- Both score a hit. (Equal)

Page 4- Hulk uppercuts Thor into air. (Hulk ahead)

Page 5- Thor crashes into ice. Notably in pain. (Hulk further ahead)

Page 6- Nothing. (Hulk still further ahead)

Page 7- Hulk hit by lightning. Visibly smoking while regenerating (Hulk's lead shortened)

Page 8- Collision. No blows struck. Signs that Thor is in WM. (Hulk ahead)

Page 9- Hulk grabs Thor's head, possibly crushing it. (Hulk further ahead)

Page 10- Hulk becomes lucid. Thor hits Hulk's arm with mjolnir as Hulk worries about the situation and is looking upward. Hulk hits Thor into the air, away from nuke. (Equal this round, but Thor's hit was situational. Hulk still ahead by two counts).

Page 11- Nothing.

I did not lie. I just have a better perspective and better ability to count than you. Also, the ability to put aside cognitive perdispositions played a part in my analysis.

hysterical

8 - 9 - 10

"Crushes Thor's head"

Thor screaming I'll kill you = signs of Warrior Madness? hysterical

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
Correct me on what?

Plenty of other people give Hulk a winning record against Thor too. I've already said that I speak for myself, did I not? Why you continue to flog a dead horse is beyond me.

People like yourself who obviously haven't read the comics. Hold on though, I'll post another inconclusive fight. laughing

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
hysterical

8 - 9 - 10

"Crushes Thor's head"

Thor screaming I'll kill you = signs of Warrior Madness? hysterical

For a person that regularly holds back, I would say that it is possible. That once again shows how silly it is for anyone to assume that Thor simply goes into WM easily. If a person that holds back SCREAMS that he wants to kill, I would say that is an outlying emotional state. The fact that he was confirmed as overtaken by WM later means that he very possibly did show signs of WM, with emphasis on the caveats.

8-10: Crushes Thor's head, becomes lucid, gets hit by Thor while telling Thor to get away, and saves Thor from nuke.

Ouallada
Originally posted by Larceny
People like yourself who obviously haven't read the comics. Hold on though, I'll post another inconclusive fight. laughing

With such baseless insinuations, even in the light of me naming every hulk/Thor battle and the issues, you wonder why I question your ability to apply intelligence?

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
For a person that regularly holds back, I would say that it is possible. That once again shows how silly it is for anyone to assume that Thor simply goes into WM easily. If a person that holds back SCREAMS that he wants to kill, I would say that is an outlying emotional state. The fact that he was confirmed as overtaken by WM later means that he very possibly did show signs of WM, with emphasis on the caveats.

8-10: Crushes Thor's head, becomes lucid, gets hit by Thor while telling Thor to get away, and saves Thor from nuke.

Saying I'm gonna kill you are signs of Warrior Madness? laughing

How was Thor still alive after his head was crushed? laughing

Saving a person from a nuke that wouldn't have killed them anyways counts as an advantage? hysterical

llagrok
Originally posted by Ouallada
For a person that regularly holds back, I would say that it is possible. That once again shows how silly it is for anyone to assume that Thor simply goes into WM easily. If a person that holds back SCREAMS that he wants to kill, I would say that is an outlying emotional state. The fact that he was confirmed as overtaken by WM later means that he very possibly did show signs of WM, with emphasis on the caveats.

8-10: Crushes Thor's head, becomes lucid, gets hit by Thor while telling Thor to get away, and saves Thor from nuke.

Warrior madness is completely different.....

Larceny
Originally posted by Ouallada
With such baseless insinuations, even in the light of me naming every hulk/Thor battle and the issues, you wonder why I question your ability to apply intelligence?

You've lied countless times within the thread, about the outcomes of fights and about win loss ratios. I'll keep posting the fights. You just keep clinging to the little argument you have.

"crushes Thor's skull" laughing

Larceny
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/1-4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/2-4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3-4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/4-4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/5-3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/6-3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/7-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/8-2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/9-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/10-1.jpg

Another inconclusive fight. This time with Thor standing above Hulk about to attack him.

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