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michael.

scathan is a 1-hit-wonder

scathan isnt even that strong....

Michael

Originally posted by Tenebrous
michael.

scathan is a 1-hit-wonder
1-hit-wonder ftw easily

These threads only infuriate people. I lean towards Scathan with his pwning of the Protege.

Originally posted by quanchi112
These threads only infuriate people. I lean towards Scathan with his pwning of the Protege.

Michael pwns Spectre. Your point? Michael is also the everything. His existance continues all that there is. Scathan?????

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Michael pwns Spectre. Your point? Michael is also the everything. His existance continues all that there is. Scathan????? Marvel also pwned the Spectre and he looked nowhere near as impressive as Galactus for crying out loud.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Marvel also pwned the Spectre and he looked nowhere near as impressive as Galactus for crying out loud.

YOu mean Depowered Spectre vs. Amped MarveL? Context quan. You suck as a debator. Geez.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Michael is also the everything.
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Originally posted by Air Legend
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Do you need some tissue? Disprove it or walk away looking like the troll you are known to be around these parts.

I don't need to disprove it. The sheer stupidity of that statement is more than enough.

Originally posted by Air Legend
I don't need to disprove it. The sheer stupidity of that statement is more than enough.

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mickey's power

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Are you trying to make yourself look bad? Nowhere does it say Michael "is the everything" and hell it even says there is none so mighty...AT LEAST NOT NOW.
Now do I need to remind you the times where Mikey has been physically beaten, tricked, and...KILLED?

Originally posted by Air Legend
Are you trying to make yourself look bad? Nowhere does it say Michael "is the everything" and hell it even says there is none so mighty...AT LEAST NOT NOW.
Now do I need to remind you the times where Mikey has been physically beaten, tricked, and...KILLED?

And yet, None is so mighty. do tell us, Was God on the throne when mikey was "killed' or "beaten". Being tricked is something comsics are quite good at. Remember when the magus tricked Eternity?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yet, None is so mighty. do tell us, Was God on the throne when mikey was "killed' or "beaten". Being tricked is something comsics are quite good at. Remember when the magus tricked Eternity?
AT LEAST NOT NOW.
Are you implying that Mike is worthless peice of shit if the Presence is not on the throne?
Irrelevant.
Who made your sig?

Originally posted by Air Legend
AT LEAST NOT NOW.
Are you implying that Mike is worthless peice of shit if the Presence is not on the throne?
Irrelevant.
Who made your sig?

my pics and request design. Implimentation and crafting by PR.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
my pics and request design. Implimentation and crafting by PR. That sig is bad ass.

Originally posted by iceman24567
That sig is bad ass. Im shocked Darkseid isnt in it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Im shocked Darkseid isnt in it. Yeah i noticed that it probably would have mess it up with his bloody nose via batkick.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Im shocked Darkseid isnt in it.
Waiting for the 5th world version of DS before he goes back up.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Waiting for the 5th world version of DS before he goes back up. Put Thanos on there. You have already said you think hes definitely the cooler character.

What's funny is,
Marvel has it's own version of
Lucifer Morningstar (but he's Satan) not a child of God. (so ridiculous)
Ghostrider is the Wrath of God (Marvel's Spectre)
we have Michael and the rest of the clan,
including "God" himself (Marvel's version of the Presence)



Marvel's version of "God" is a real human being.

Btw. What has Michael done, besides being labeled?

Just askin, I wanna know what puts him above Scathan.
All we have to go on for Scathan is the GOTG Arc, I don't like it, but it is canon.

Originally posted by Mr Master
What's funny is,
Marvel has it's own version of
Lucifer Morningstar (but he's Satan) not a child of God. (so ridiculous)
Ghostrider is the Wrath of God (Marvel's Spectre)
we have Michael and the rest of the clan,
including "God" himself (Marvel's version of the Presence)



Btw. What has Michael done, besides being labeled?

Just askin, I wanna know what puts him above Scathan.
All we have to go on for Scathan is the GOTG Arc, I don't like it, but it is canon.

Mikey sustains creation by his very life. His power passed on to elaine allowed her to be the supreme being in vertigo. (that aspect of mikey). his other self still exist in the DCU proper. Mikey also handily beat down the spectre and had the power to outright destroy him.

Originally posted by Mr Master
What's funny is,
Marvel has it's own version of
Lucifer Morningstar (but he's Satan) not a child of God. (so ridiculous)
Ghostrider is the Wrath of God (Marvel's Spectre)
we have Michael and the rest of the clan,
including "God" himself (Marvel's version of the Presence)



Marvel's version of "God" is a real human being.

Btw. What has Michael done, besides being labeled?

Just askin, I wanna know what puts him above Scathan.
All we have to go on for Scathan is the GOTG Arc, I don't like it, but it is canon.
What's rediculous about Lucifer being a child of God? In the bible he was the favored among all angels. most beautiful, the most talented, the smartest ect.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mikey sustains creation by his very life.
Like Galactus?

Cause Galactus sustains creation aswell,
G dies, Marvel dies.

Or Captain Universe, if the essence of CU dies,
all life dies.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
His power passed on to elaine allowed her to be the supreme being in vertigo. (that aspect of mikey). his other self still exist in the DCU proper.
So Michael made Elaine the supreme being of Vertigo,
and still maintains his status as the life force of creation of the 52 Universes in DC?

Do you have proof, I don't particularly enjoy the grape vine.

Also,

Why hasn't Michael been mentioned once in any of the Countdown stories?
If he's such an integral part of the system,
why hasn't Rip Hunter, Booster Gold, or the Guardians and so on mentioned him once.

Yea, the DC Multiverse (52) was in danger through out of being collpased,
but never because of Michael's death/life or anything in relation.
(just trying to understand how Mikey fits in DC)
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mikey also handily beat down the spectre and had the power to outright destroy him.
Spectre came with supposedly infinite energy,
backed by the Presence and couldn't completely defeat AM.
Spectre backed by his "Boss" can't defeat Mxy (instead gets owned)
Spectre gets toyed with by Lucy.
Marvel and the Bat-kick.
I'm starting to lose faith in ol' Specty.

Make me feel better.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What's rediculous about Lucifer being a child of God?
Uhh, blasphemy?
Or is this a trick question?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
In the bible he was the favored among all angels. most beautiful,
the most talented, the smartest ect.
But never God's Son.

That was Jesus Christ, his ONLY Son.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Like Galactus?

Cause Galactus sustains creation aswell,
G dies, Marvel dies.

Or Captain Universe, if the essence of CU dies,
all life dies.

So Michael made Elaine the supreme being of Vertigo,
and still maintains his status as the life force of creation of the 52 Universes in DC?

Do you have proof, I don't particularly enjoy the grape vine.

Also,

Why hasn't Michael been mentioned once in any of the Countdown stories?
If he's such an integral part of the system,
why hasn't Rip Hunter, Booster Gold, or the Guardians and so on mentioned him once.

Yea, the DC Multiverse (52) was in danger through out of being collpased,
but never because of Michael's death/life or anything in relation.
(just trying to understand how Mikey fits in DC)

Spectre came with supposedly infinite energy,
backed by the Presence and couldn't completely defeat AM.
Spectre backed by his "Boss" can't defeat Mxy (instead gets owned)
Spectre gets toyed with by Lucy.
Marvel and the Bat-kick.
I'm starting to lose faith in ol' Specty.

Make me feel better.

Why would I make you feel better when you obviously have a slant that is very skewed? You actually compare galactus to michael. Laughable. If galactus dies, he causes a chain reaction. That is hillarious that you would try and compare the two. LMAO.
And where did you get the notion that there are only the 52? Such stuff is hillarious.


Why hasn't the presence, the GEB or neron or any of those types not mentioned in 52? Why aren't the quantum zealots who were before the guardian's etc? Story telling master. You know better.

Just becuz there is something else that is endangering A PART of the DCU, you think it has to be related to mikey? WTF. So when Scarlet witch was threating the omniverse, The Alient entity had something to do with it?

Your estimation of the Spectre is hilliarious. Spectre mis used the power and that is why the AM wasn't defeated. Homework much?
mxy didn't own the spectre so much as bind him so that if he acted, he would destroy all of reality. mxy is also one of the most powerful beings in comics history ever.
Lucy can toy with anyone. If you hadn't noticed. he's the will of god personified. you can't get much more uber abstract than that.
depowered Spectre pwned the multiversal nabu. He was getting beaten by a severly powered up CM.
And you do realize the batkick was allowed by the spectre so that batman could feel better.

You should work on why the LT can't fix a universal problem, get's pwned by reed, and can't think of a better way to try and kill korvak.

As for the grapevine, you know I don't give a damn if you don't believe me. LMAO.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Uhh, blasphemy?
Or is this a trick question?

But never God's Son.

That was Jesus Christ, his ONLY Son.
Then who are the children of god if God only had one son?

blasphemy in a work of fiction? What if the writer isn't christian?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Why would I make you feel better when you obviously have a slant that is very skewed? You actually compare galactus to michael. Laughable. If galactus dies, he causes a chain reaction. That is hillarious that you would try and compare the two. LMAO.
All that laughing doesn't take away from the fact that if Galactus dies,
Marvel (Time/Space) dies.

And if Captain Universe dies, all life in the Marvel Universe dies.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And where did you get the notion that there are only the 52? Such stuff is hillarious.
52, Countdown, it's several series relatively new.
I'm talking about the DC Multiverse btw.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Why hasn't the presence, the GEB or neron or any of those types not mentioned in 52? Why aren't the quantum zealots who were before the guardian's etc? Story telling master. You know better.
Or perhaps they have nothing to do with the 52 verses.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Just becuz there is something else that is endangering A PART of the DCU, you think it has to be related to mikey? WTF. So when Scarlet witch was threating the omniverse, The Alient entity had something to do with it?
dontgetit

The Alien Entity erased all of Marvel, then re-created all of Marvel on panel.
Wanda collapsed all of Marvel, then remade all of it back anew on panel.

What are you talking about?

Has Michel been mentioned in any book besides a Spectre and/or vertigo issue?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your estimation of the Spectre is hilliarious. Spectre mis used the power and that is why the AM wasn't defeated. Homework much?
So FP Spectre is a myth.
Don't bring him up again please.
If he can't handle the power then, and couldn't when he merged,
I don't wanna hear that coming for you again friend.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
mxy didn't own the spectre so much as bind him so that if he acted,
he would destroy all of reality.
mxy is also one of the most powerful beings in comics history ever.
Actually during World's Funnest, Spectre (who was sent by his "Boss)
got owned, (one shot style)
several other alternate Spectres got killed.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Lucy can toy with anyone. If you hadn't noticed. he's the will of god personified. you can't get much more uber abstract than that.
depowered Spectre pwned the multiversal nabu. He was getting beaten by a severly powered up CM.
And you do realize the batkick was allowed by the spectre so that batman could feel better.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You should work on why the LT can't fix a universal problem,
1. It's not the LT's job to fix Universes.

That was easy.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
get's pwned by reed
2. Never happened, LT was distracted and pwnd himself,
(PIS or LT was his own plot device)

Although,
The mind of Reed is on an uber god status.
The Mind of Reed has tech to control the Omniverse.
The Mind of Reed has tech that can erase and re-create Universes in a flash.
The Mind of Reed knows evey detail about the Marvel Omniverse's Past & Present.
(which is why the Alien Entity used Reed's knowledge to re-create the Marvel Universe.
The mind of Reed has achieved him Godhood,
as when he became the next incarnation of Eternity in the X Trilogy.
Reed & the FF are the only cats (in all of Marvel) to ever see Toaa/god.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
and can't think of a better way to try and kill korvak.
3. And the Punisher can kill the Marvel Universe in "What If's"

Get that shit out of here son.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As for the grapevine, you know I don't give a damn if you don't believe me.
With your rep?

What we have here is a game of show & tell,
you're telling me everything and showing me nothing.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Then who are the children of god if God only had one son?
If you didn't know that the Christian God is known to have only one Son (Jesus)
you're out the loop big time friend.

The children of God, are supposed to be US
(Humans who have inherited/earned the right to become God's children)
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
blasphemy in a work of fiction? What if the writer isn't christian?

Originally posted by Mr Master
All that laughing doesn't take away from the fact that if Galactus dies,
Marvel (Time/Space) dies.

And if Captain Universe dies, all life in the Marvel Universe dies.

52, it's a series relatively new.

Or perhaps they have nothing to do with the 52 verses.

dontgetit

The Alien Entity erased all of Marvel, then re-created all of Marvel on panel.
Wanda collapsed all of Marvel, then remade all of it back anew on panel.

What are you talking about?

Has Michel been mentioned in any book besides a Spectre and/or vertigo issue?

So FP Spectre is a myth.
Don't bring him up again please.
If he can't handle the power then, and couldn't when he merged,
I don't wanna hear that coming for you again friend.

Actually during World's Funnest, Spectre (who was sent by his "Boss)
got owned, (one shot style)
several other alternate Spectres got killed.



1. It's not the LT's job to fix Universes.

That was easy.

2. Never happened, LT was distracted and pwnd himself,
(PIS or LT was his own plot device)

Although,
The mind of Reed is on an uber god status.
The Mind of Reed has tech to control the Omniverse.
The Mind of Reed has tech that can erase and re-create Universes in a flash.
The Mind of Reed knows evey detail about the Marvel Omniverse's Past & Present.
(which is why the Alien Entity used Reed's knowledge to re-create the Marvel Universe.
The mind of Reed has achieved him Godhood,
as when he became the next incarnation of Eternity in the X Trilogy.
Reed & the FF are the only cats (in all of Marvel) to ever see Toaa/god.

3. And the Punisher can kill the Marvel Universe in "What If's"

Get that shit out of here son.

With your rep?

What we have here is a game of show & tell,
you're telling me everything and showing me nothing.

Oh master. How you grasp. And you wonder why I dont' like you. let's get some things str8.

Michael sustains creation. Galactus does not. comparing the two is laughable as I said.

I never said the spectre couldn't handle the power. Where the FUKC did you see me say that. I said he misused the power. Read much?

And can you tell us who the Spectre's boss was at the time world's funnest happened? Becuz you know, at the time, crisis hadn't happened according to the book. Guess who was the Spectre's boss at the time? It wasn't the presence. Shame shame on you for not knowing that. LMAO.

As I said before, Just becuz the source is destroying the 52 means what, that somehow michael has to be part of it or mentioned? Why wasn't the alient entity mentioned when wanda was mucking around with Marvel? Story telling. Shit.

So you mean to tell me that you think you know something about DC now cuz you've read a lil 52 and countdown. LMAO. When DC is only 52 universes let me know. As far as i know, hypertime still exist, vertigo still exist. 52 may be the spine of the multiverse soon to be megaverse. nothing more.

Originally posted by Mr Master
If you didn't know that the Christian God is known to have only one Son (Jesus)
you're out the loop big time friend.

The children of God, are supposed to be US
(Humans who have inherited/earned the right to become God's children)



Master, you dont' know as much about christianity as you think. Lucifer being the manifestation of the will of God is a DIrect parallel to Jesus. Jesus in the bible is actually the Word of God given form. It's why Lucifer is called a son of God. It's directly similiar to Jesus's origin as a living abstract. I know too much about christianity.

I also know how to seperate religion from fiction and from artistic expression.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Oh master. How you grasp. And you wonder why I dont' like you.
let's get some things str8.
I'll only get personal, when you commit.
You like me, don't like me, who
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Michael sustains creation. Galactus does not. comparing the two is laughable as I said.
Galactus sustains creation, there's no arguing that.

I never said G = Mikey btw.

You said as an example of Mikey's power, "he sustains creation"

and I simply replied with, "Like Galactus?"
(which is true)
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I never said the spectre couldn't handle the power.
Where the FUKC did you see me say that.
I said he misused the power. Read much?
Mis-use ... can't handle it, same difference.
Cause in the end, he wasn't able to achieve his goal.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And can you tell us who the Spectre's boss was at the time world's funnest happened?
Becuz you know, at the time, crisis hadn't happened according to the book. Guess who was the Spectre's boss at the time?
It wasn't the presence. Shame shame on you for not knowing that.
Really, so who was Spectre's "Boss?"

Gah head and tell us.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As I said before, Just becuz the source is destroying the 52 means what,
that somehow michael has to be part of it or mentioned?
Why wasn't the alient entity mentioned when wanda was mucking around with Marvel?
Story telling. Shit.
The Alien Entity already had his day in the nullification of creation,
and re-creation of it.

I'm not interested in seeing the AE in another story.

Now what story has Michael been depicted to be "all of creation"
or the one who "sustains" it.
(Not just in statements)

heck, I know Galactus sutains Marvel because when Galactus "died"
Marvel began to collapse in the form of Abraxas.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So you mean to tell me that you think you know something about DC now cuz you've read a lil 52 and countdown. LMAO.
When DC is only 52 universes let me know.
As far as i know, hypertime still exist, vertigo still exist.
52 may be the spine of the multiverse soon to be megaverse. nothing more.
I never said I knew anything.

But I do know that according to Rip Hunter (timestream guardian) & Booster Gold,
the 52 Universes is "All of Creation" ... "Everything" ... "all of Space & Time"

Don't get mad at me for DC publishing what you consider lies.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'll only get personal, when you commit.
You like me, don't like me, who

Galactus sustains creation, there's no arguing that.

I never said G = Mikey btw.

You said as an example of Mikey's power, "he sustains creation"

and I simply replied with, "Like Galactus?"
(which is true)

Mis-use ... can't handle it, same difference.
Cause in the end, he wasn't able to achieve his goal.

Really, so who was Spectre's "Boss?"

Gah head and tell us.

The Alien Entity already had his day in the nullification of creation,
and re-creation of it.

I'm not interested in seeing the AE in another story.

Now what story has Michael been depicted to be "all of creation"
or the one who "sustains" it.
(Not just in statements)

heck, I know Galactus sutains Marvel because when Galactus "died"
Marvel began to collapse in the form of Abraxas.

I never said I knew anything.

But I do know that according to Rip Hunter (timestream guardian) & Booster Gold,
the 52 Universes is "All of Creation" ... "Everything" ... "all of Space & Time"

Don't get mad at me for DC publishing what you consider lies.

*sighs* That is why it pays to know the entire history of DC. the Linear men don't know everything about time. They didn't know about hypertime. And i dont' even think they do to this day. It was always waverider who was the authority. And waverider is the one who is said on panel as being the seer of hypertime.

Spectre's boss during the time of COIE was the word.

misusing is much different than not being able to handle. If I use a gun to kill an innocent, that is misusing. If I shoot my self, or shoot it without unlocking the safety, that is not being able to handle it.

There is a scan when mikey was dying and everythign started to go with him. I'll find it when I feel like going thru scans. That is such tedious work. Who has time for all of that?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Master, you dont' know as much about christianity as you think.
And you're gonna school me is that it nvr.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Lucifer being the manifestation of the will of God is a DIrect parallel to Jesus.
So this is schooling ey nvr?

With horse shit

No where in any verse in the Bible is that stated, freakin liar.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Jesus in the bible is actually the Word of God given form.
This is true.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's why Lucifer is called a son of God.
It's directly similiar to Jesus's origin as a living abstract.
Incredible bull shit
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I know too much about christianity.
loleyes

You just proved it
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I also know how to seperate religion from fiction and from artistic expression.
"artistic expression?"

There's nothing unique and creative about that friend.
(except for the twisting of a faith)

Don't get me wrong, I spit on Marvel was doing the same crap.
Marvel at least kept it exactly like the original story, still stupid imo.

Originally posted by Mr Master
And you're gonna school me is that it nvr.

So this is schooling ey nvr?

With horse shit

No where in any verse in the Bible is that stated, freakin liar.

This is true.

Incredible bull shit

loleyes

You just proved it

"artistic expression?"

There's nothing unique and creative about that friend.
(except for the twisting of a faith)

Don't get me wrong, I spit on Marvel was doing the same crap.
Marvel at least kept it exactly like the original story, still stupid imo.

And you need to learn to read. I'm giving you an example of why lucifer is called the son of God in the damned story. You should learn to read better damn. I said that lucifer being the will of God, ( obviously from the vertigo story) is a parallel to jesus being the word of God. It's why he's called a son of God in the vertigo story. Geez. Hard on for telling someone thier post is shit when you can't even understand what is being said to you. LMAO. Your post was shit cuz you didn't even understand that I was drawing the parallells of Jesus in the bible to how the artist uses lucifer in the comic. not once in any of my sentences did I say lucifer was the will of God in the bible.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
*sighs* That is why it pays to know the entire history of DC. the Linear men don't know everything about time. They didn't know about hypertime. And i dont' even think they do to this day. It was always waverider who was the authority. And waverider is the one who is said on panel as being the seer of hypertime.

Spectre's boss during the time of COIE was the word.
According to Kingdom, Rip Hunter was the overseer of Hypertime,
and now according to 52 & Countdown, of the 52 Universes.

What issue did Waverider say that?

I wanna post that scan for ya.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
misusing is much different than not being able to handle.
If I use a gun to kill an innocent, that is misusing.
If I shoot my self, or shoot it without unlocking the safety,
that is not being able to handle it.
Nice analogy,
unfortunately Spectre couldn't damage the AM enough with all that power.
So this analogy doesn't really relate.

Spectre wasn't able to harness the power effectively.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There is a scan when mikey was dying and everythign started to go with him. I'll find it when I feel like going thru scans.
That is such tedious work. Who has time for all of that?
Cool, that's all I wanted.

until then, I'll believe it when I see it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
According to Kingdom, Rip Hunter was the overseer of Hypertime,
and now according to 52 & Countdown, of the 52 Universes.

What issue did Waverider say that?

I wanna post that scan for ya.

Nice analogy,
unfortunately Spectre couldn't damage the AM enough with all that power.
So this anaology doesn't really relate.

Spectre wasn't able to harness the power effectively.

Cool, that's all I wanted.

until then, I'll believe it when I see it.
master, as if it matters. You could see a blue piece of paper. If it doesn't fit the way you want it to, you'll call it sky blue, light blue, or anyother blue just so that it's yours. and damned anyone who doesn't see it that way. The narrative in 52 says waverider is the seer of hypertime. probably was in issue 51 or so.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And you need to learn to read.
I'm giving you an example of why lucifer is called the son of God in the damned story.
You should learn to read better damn.
I said that lucifer being the will of God,
( obviously from the vertigo story) is a parallel to jesus being the word of God. It's why he's called a son of God in the vertigo story.
Your post was shit cuz you didn't even understand that I was drawing the parallells of Jesus in the bible to how the artist uses lucifer in the comic. not once in any of my sentences did I say lucifer was the will of God in the bible.
I'm a man dogs, I don't mind saying, I stand corrected, my bad.

But you should've been more precise.

Still, imo,
it's ridiculous that Satan can be related to God in that sense.
It goes against the principle of the story their substituting their un-creativity with.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm a man dogs, I don't mind saying, I stand corrected, my bad.

But you should've been more precise.

Still, imo,
it's ridiculous that Satan can be related to God in that sense.
It goes against the principle of the story their substituting their un-creativity with.
The story seems very creative. they took elements from the bible and tried to stay true to some points. They left jesus out as well they should have. People get all crazy over depictions of jesus. especially if they aren't done right. So this was the best they could come up with. I like the fact that most of the uber abstracts are literally manifestations of god's emotions, power, will, etc. even his voice is so powerful that it is alive.

It would have been something to see Lucifer and The Word talking to one another in the comic. We got to see him in Swamp Thing and in Spectre v4 but only for a short time, hope we get to see a little of him in Final Crisis..

Originally posted by kevdude
It would have been something to see Lucifer and The Word talking to one another in the comic. We got to see him in Swamp Thing and in Spectre v4 but only for a short time, hope we get to see a little of him in Final Crisis..
Crisis Tend to deal with the cosmic aspect of the DCU. There are some things that boarder the metaphysical and the cosmic. Such as The Phantom stranger, the source, and the spectre. Other than that, most of the metaphysical beings dont' show up.

Nvr, can you give me your opinion on this,
I'm asking in seriousness.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The narrative in 52 says waverider is the seer of hypertime.
probably was in issue 51 or so.
I'm sure, but in the Kingdom it was Rip Hunter:

Here is Hypertime actually artistically depcited:

Rip Hunter is the guy who first discovered the New DC Multiverse,

Rip Hunter is also the guy who discovered and oversaw "Hypertime."


http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...
the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,
(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

.............................................................................................................

From 52:


Here's Rip Hunter (overseer of Hypertime according to the Kingdom) in 52
calling the Multiverse "All of Creation"

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2876/85073131uu3.th.jpg

...............................................................................


Here's Supernova, Booster Gold and again Rip Hunter talking:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1537/32207881iu0.th.jpg

"Trust the survival of Everything Ever to Three guys"

"Why are you risking the survival of the entire Multiverse"


...............................................................................


Here's Rip Hunter telling Booster Gold and Supernova,
they have to keep the existence of the one and only Multiverse a secret.

Rip also calls it "All of Time & Space."

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5394/90180733ln2.th.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8593/77691495ee3.th.jpg



Can it be that Rip Hunter doesn't know about Hypertime?

That wouldn't make sense, because in the Kingdom series.
Rip knew more about Hypertime than anyone (he was the one describing it)
...............................................................................

It's true,
Waverider was refered to as the keeper of "Divergent Timelines" (Hypertime)

but then,
what the heck do the scans above mean?

Which is the canon story?
Is this a DC mix up?
Retcon?
Or what?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nvr, can you give me your opinion on this,
I'm asking in seriousness.

I'm sure, but in the Kingdom it was Rip Hunter:

Here is Hypertime actually artistically depcited:

Rip Hunter is the guy who first discovered the New DC Multiverse,

Rip Hunter is also the guy who discovered and oversaw "Hypertime."


http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...
the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,
(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

.............................................................................................................

From 52:


Here's Rip Hunter (overseer of Hypertime according to the Kingdom) in 52
calling the Multiverse "All of Creation"

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2876/85073131uu3.th.jpg

...............................................................................


Here's Supernova, Booster Gold and again Rip Hunter talking:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1537/32207881iu0.th.jpg

"Trust the survival of Everything Ever to Three guys"

"Why are you risking the survival of the entire Multiverse"


...............................................................................


Here's Rip Hunter telling Booster Gold and Supernova,
they have to keep the existence of the one and only Multiverse a secret.

Rip also calls it "All of Time & Space."

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5394/90180733ln2.th.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8593/77691495ee3.th.jpg



Can it be that Rip Hunter doesn't know about Hypertime?

That wouldn't make sense, because in the Kingdom series.
Rip knew more about Hypertime than anyone (he was the one describing it)
...............................................................................

It's true,
Waverider was refered to as the keeper of "Divergent Timelines" (Hypertime)

but then,
what the heck do the scans above mean?

Which is the canon story?
Is this a DC mix up?
Retcon?
Or what?

The kingdom is now just one of the 52 universes that make up the current status of the multiverse. Hypertime is either a megaverse within the one aspect of the 52 multiverse, which is plausible given the fact that earth 50 is also a multiverse, or hypertime hasn't been discovered by this reality's rip hunter. Kingdom is an alterverse. So are all characters that appeared in it. Altenate Rip hunter.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The kingdom is now just one of the 52 universes that make up the current status of the multiverse.
Correct.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hypertime is either a megaverse within the one aspect of the 52 multiverse,
which is plausible given the fact that earth 50 is also a multiverse,
Actually according to Countdown, Hypertime is just the Divergent Realities of the Multiverse,
as in Timelines:

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6617/hypertimerz3.th.jpg

So it can't be a Megaverse.

Timelines (atleast in Marvel) are part of the same Multiverse as the Universes.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
or hypertime hasn't been discovered by this reality's rip hunter.
Kingdom is an alterverse.
So are all characters that appeared in it. Altenate Rip hunter.
I disagree, that Rip Hunter in the Kingdom wasn't an alternate Rip.

He stepped into the Kingdom from Hypertime.
(the one and only Rip that oversa Hypertime)
That Rip was never situated in the Kingdom.

Unless you have updated proof to the contrary.
(cause that's the story within the Kingdom arc, which I have and read)

Ouch, it's late fellas, I gots ta go.

Goodnight yall, until the next one.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Correct.

Actually according to Countdown, Hypertime is just the Divergent Realities of the Multiverse,
as in Timelines:

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6617/hypertimerz3.th.jpg

So it can't be a Megaverse.

Timelines (atleast in Marvel) are part of the same Multiverse as the Universes.

I disagree, that Rip Hunter in the Kingdom wasn't an alternate Rip.

He stepped into the Kingdom from Hypertime.
(the one and only Rip that oversa Hypertime)
That Rip was never situated in the Kingdom.

Unless you have updated proof to the contrary.
(cause that's the story within the Kingdom arc, which I have and read)

What you dont' have is proof of where that rip hunter stepped from. he's not an abstract and thus isn't privy to being special. And The kingdom was more than divergant time lines. Tanget comics wasn't divergant timelines. It was entirely new concepts with old names. There were also future showings in there, precrisis stuff. Far more than divergant time lines. even crisis wasn't all divergant time lines. And 52 is already slated to be turned into a megaverse, so why can't hypertime be a megaverse? part of an even larger megaverse? And earth 50 is also part of ANOTHER multiverse. Unless you have proof that it was the same Rip hunter, the panels say other wise. Given the fact that one panel calls him the guardian of Hypertime, but the later panels call waverider the seer of hypertime. Waverider>>any and all Rip Hunters. OH one more thing, where in the scans does it say that hypertime is just divergent time lines. It looks to me like skeets is giving TWO seperate titles to waverider.

Does Michael even have any physical feats other than handing Spectre's ass on a silver platter? How strong is Michael? How invulnerable is he? He did got stabbed in the back by Sandalphon(spelling???) if I recall.

What exactly are his powers other than shooting raw infinite focused energy?

Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
Does Michael even have any physical feats other than handing Spectre's ass on a silver platter?

How strong is Michael?

How invulnerable is he?

He did got stabbed in the back by Sandalphon(spelling???) if I recall.

What exactly are his powers other than shooting raw infinite focused energy?
Well you can click on the link below my sig, but yes he does. He vaporized two angels with a gesture and hurt Lucifer, albeit reluctantly, with a blast.

He is the most powerful being in creation going by statements, his major feat backing those statements up is him beating the Spectre.

The Lucifer series does indeed show Michael is vulnerable. However, when he dies, all of creation is destroyed, but he'll just regenerate anew.

Michael focusing his powers is more powerful than simply dying and causing a creation-ending detonation as as illustrated in his fight with Lucifer, even though that battle does not provide us with the best of examples.

Scathan Disapproves!

Yeah, lol. Scathan is stronger then LT. There was a 70 page thread about Mike vs. LT. If that doesn't show it's a contested issue, I don't know what does. Scathan takes this handily.

I wonder how much stronger the LT would be if the Stranger was still his fourth face?

Michael.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah, lol. Scathan is stronger then LT. There was a 70 page thread about Mike vs. LT. If that doesn't show it's a contested issue, I don't know what does. Scathan takes this handily.

I wonder how much stronger the LT would be if the Stranger was still his fourth face?

Scathan is equal to LT, where are you getting he is stronger?

And I believe Stranger could have been his fourth face, not that he was, I don't think that would make him stronger anyway.

Michael.

Scathan wins.

Originally posted by Mindset
And I believe Stranger could have been his fourth face, not that he was, I don't think that would make him stronger anyway.
Not sure how far to take this but his marvel.com bio states that the Stranger was his former face.

Originally posted by King Kandy

Not sure how far to take this but his marvel.com bio states

that the Stranger was his former face.
Wuts up KK.

You're actually right about that, the LT's bio does state that,
props to Marvel.com bios,
they're are exactly word for word identical to the Handbooks.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/557/lt2wm7.th.jpg


But as you know we must always verify bios (of any kind) with on panel evidence,
what I've known for a while is that the bio on this one, is in-correct,
meh, these seldom flaws occur, so it's nothing to go wow about.

Anyway, the on panel evidence states, (LT talking)
that the Stranger could've been the Fourth Face of the Stellar Skull:

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/874/lt1ar8.th.jpg