Superman Prime heat vision gauntlet

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Estacado
Prime uses the full power of his heat vision to pierce through the following charactes how far does he goes?

Some feats.

Goes through Superman's chest
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs14.jpg

Goes through Gl and burns Guardian
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/henshawblast.jpg

Some gl stuff again
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/everyoneone.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/toomuchforgls3.jpg

Kills Solomon Grundy and some other villains
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/solomonkiled.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/casualkil.jpg

Knocks down Kal-L, Wonder Girl, and Alexander Luthor, Jr. with one blast of heat vision
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/knockdown.jpg



1.Gladiator
2.Sentry
3.Thor
4.John Stewart(makes a shield)
5.Silver Surfer
6.Thanos
7.Doomsday h/p
8.Juggernaut

Grinning Goku
Makes it to 7

Gecko4lif
clears

only person with stronger is Black zero

Kutulu
Gets to 5. Surfer would be hurt, but it wouldn't pierce his skin IMHO.

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by Kutulu
Gets to 5. Surfer would be hurt, but it wouldn't pierce his skin IMHO.

Surfer's skin got cracked open by only a couple hundred tons of force

It isnt as impressive as it used to be

Kutulu
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Surfer's skin got cracked open by only a couple hundred tons of force

It isnt as impressive as it used to be

When was this?

Scoobless
If Thor uses his hammer to block/absorb then it's no threat to him.

Estacado
Originally posted by Scoobless
If Thor uses his hammer to block/absorb then it's no threat to him.
Just skin test......
John get's the shield cause he is a human.

Scoobless
So no force field for Juggs then?

horrorwolf
Questionable in 3-4 range, Definitely stopped cold at 5.

cmack
it doesnt go through the surfer

Soljer
Gets to at least Thanos.

From there, I don't really know.

Dr.Crankenstein
I would say gets to 7.

Larceny
Stops at 1. If he possibly gets 1 he stops at 3.

BTW, for those who consider JLA/Avengers canon , Thor walked right through a full on blast of heat vision.

Dr.Crankenstein
Originally posted by Larceny
Stops at 1. If he possibly gets 1 he stops at 3.

BTW, for those who consider JLA/Avengers canon , Thor walked right through a full on blast of heat vision. Are you sure it was a full hv blast?

llagrok
Originally posted by Soljer
Gets to at least Thanos.

From there, I don't really know.

One of those Ovarian Mercenaries cut Thanos' skin, I think SMP's heatvision would be able to get through him.

Estacado
Originally posted by Scoobless
So no force field for Juggs then?
The force field doesn't make him more invulnerable......so no.

Estacado
Originally posted by Larceny
Stops at 1. If he possibly gets 1 he stops at 3.

BTW, for those who consider JLA/Avengers canon , Thor walked right through a full on blast of heat vision.
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Superman Prime>>>Superman if you hadn't noticed yet.

SpiderGauntlet
Originally posted by Larceny
Stops at 1. If he possibly gets 1 he stops at 3.

BTW, for those who consider JLA/Avengers canon , Thor walked right through a full on blast of heat vision.

Did you do this for the lulz?

llagrok
Originally posted by Larceny
Stops at 1. If he possibly gets 1 he stops at 3.

BTW, for those who consider JLA/Avengers canon , Thor walked right through a full on blast of heat vision.

That's because Thor is the madshit, he can fight in the sun.

Parallex
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Questionable in 3-4 range, Definitely stopped cold at 5.

I must Agree

Scoobless
Originally posted by Estacado
The force field doesn't make him more invulnerable......so no.

Yes it does, with his forcefield up Thor couldn't hurt him, when it came down Thor kicked his ass all over the place.

Priest
Originally posted by Scoobless
Yes it does, with his forcefield up Thor couldn't hurt him, when it came down Thor kicked his ass all over the place.

I think Thor just removed The Juggernaut's enhancement not just the shield itself.
Juggernaut takes it with no problem, I don't think his shield was up when he took a Godblast from Thor.
...............
Anyways Thor could possibly survive it, it he always had a good resistance to heat. It would def hurt him imo..

Hunter Prey Doomsday would be a toss up, he did survive the Omega Beams from Darkseid, there is a strong possibility that he can takes Primes HV.

I believe Surfer would not get pierced with the HV because Glalactus stated that his glaze can withstand the highest temperatures of space, this is including the most hottest stars.

And I'm not sure about Thanos just yet. erm

Every body else on that list will get pierced with the HV.

h1a8
Actually Firelord's heat was too much for SS.
Also regular Superman's HV is much hotter than the core of a Star (something that SS should be able to take). But SBP's HV has to be many multitudes higher. Geez! it went through everything it came across (even Superman like he was a ghost or something).

But I say that he gets to H/P DD.

Estacado
Originally posted by Scoobless
Yes it does, with his forcefield up Thor couldn't hurt him, when it came down Thor kicked his ass all over the place.
That was simply bad writing he never used his force field in anyother appearances except in an older X-men isu where Iceman put him in an iceblock and can used the field to bust free from it.

nvrbeenwthagirl
He gets to thanos. He might even seriously injure thanos. But he won't kill him.

Violent2Dope
Stops at Thanos IMO.

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by Kutulu
When was this?

annihilation

TricksterPriest
Thanos will be hurt, but I'm not sure if it can actually pierce his hide. Probably stops here, but then again, how often has he gone full-burn with HV?

DD won't even notice.

Juggs.............HE'S THE JUGGERNAUT, *****! jugdurnaut

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Thanos will be hurt, but I'm not sure if it can actually pierce his hide. Probably stops here, but then again, how often has he gone full-burn with HV?

DD won't even notice.

Juggs.............HE'S THE JUGGERNAUT, *****! jugdurnaut
It went thru supes like butter

I see it immediately puncturing his skin then there being a 1-2 second delay then it punching out the other side.

Superboy Prime
I had not seen that pic of Superman Prime's HV going through Superman as if he wasn't even there.

Damn. That's impressive considering Superman's insane durability. Given the fact it has managed to go right through Superman like that I say at the very least SMP HV kills everyone up to 7.

Thanos will be hurt, but I dunno if it will actually kill the mad titan(Thanos Death PIS excluded)

UniOmni
I don't think it would pierce Surfer.

It'd hurt him tho.

Thanos it wouldn't pierce.

DD....lol.

Jugg....lollerskates.

Sarutobi700
Doesnt get past 1 if Glads is confident. But on a normal day he doesnt get past 2

vlaaad12345
Originally posted by Sarutobi700
Doesnt get past 1 if Glads is confident. But on a normal day he doesnt get past 2
LOL,an attack that while the user was weakened went through superman like he was paper means its not stopping till atleast 6/7.

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
LOL,an attack that while the user was weakened went through superman like he was paper means its not stopping till atleast 6/7. Don't feed t3H queer troll.

Sundipped
Originally posted by Sarutobi700
Doesnt get past 1 if Glads is confident. But on a normal day he doesnt get past 2

Glad would shit in his costume no matter how confident he is. Depowered SMP's HV put a hole in Supermans shoulder.
He gets to Thanos and would seriously injure him but I doubt it would pierce him unless he got multiple shots or 1 long concentrated shot in the same spot.

Galan007
Assuming shields are up -- stops at #4.

Kutulu
Originally posted by Galan007
Assuming shields are up -- stops at #4.

Originally posted by Estacado
4.John Stewart(makes a shield)

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/henshawblast.jpg

John Stewart's shield gets fried.

Galan007
Originally posted by Kutulu
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/henshawblast.jpg

John Stewart's shield gets fried. imo,
These scans of John surviving an explosion at ground zero, which destroyed at least one planet, and a Star -- An explosion which 'shook the Milky Way', say otherwise:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_johnstewart_explosion1.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_johnstewart_explosion2.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_johnstewart_explosion3.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_johnstewart_explosion4.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_johnstewart_explosion5.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_johnstewart_explosion6.jpg


Note that John simultaneously protected MM from this explosion as well. smile

Kutulu
Originally posted by Galan007
imo,
These scans of John surviving an explosion at ground zero, which destroyed at least one planet, and a Star -- An explosion which 'shook the Milky Way', say otherwise:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_johnstewart_explosion1.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_johnstewart_explosion2.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_johnstewart_explosion3.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_johnstewart_explosion4.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_johnstewart_explosion5.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_johnstewart_explosion6.jpg


Note that John simultaneously protected MM from this explosion as well. smile

The explosion took the planet out of orbit and into the path of a star, where the explosion continued.

This whole time John and J'onn hung out in outer space (note the scan shows them not being anywhere near the star, so they didn't survive the full blast of the explosion, only the initial part of the explosion).

Galan007
Originally posted by Kutulu
The explosion took the planet out of orbit and into the path of a star, where the explosion continued.

This whole time John and J'onn hung out in outer space (note the scan shows them not being anywhere near the star, so they didn't survive the full blast of the explosion, only the initial part of the explosion). So we'll just disregard the fact that they were both on the planet when it began exploding, disregard the fact that we never saw them 'hanging in space' until after the explosion(s), and disregard the fact that afterwards, they seem to be amidst a bunch of rubble?


Okie dokie. smile

Estacado
Originally posted by Galan007
So we'll just disregard the fact that they were both on the planet when it began exploding, disregard the fact that we never saw them 'hanging in space' until after the explosion(s), and disregard the fact that afterwards, they seem to be amidst a punch of rubble?


Okie dokie. smile
John dies.uhuh

Galan007
Originally posted by Estacado
John dies.uhuh True.
herbhappy

Estacado
Originally posted by Galan007
True.
herbhappy
Glad we agree.uhuh

Galan007
Originally posted by Estacado
Glad we agree.uhuh vegetajv2

Kutulu
Originally posted by Galan007
So we'll just disregard the fact that they were both on the planet when it began exploding, disregard the fact that we never saw them 'hanging in space' until after the explosion(s), and disregard the fact that afterwards, they seem to be amidst a punch of rubble?


Okie dokie. smile

Look again at the scans you posted.
Initial explosion, caption says that explosion was "tossing him through the air". The blast continues to rock the planet.
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/johnstewart_explosion1.jpg

Next scan:
J'onn is standing there, you see him get tossed into the air and the GL shield breaks. You see a big chunk of rock by him.
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/johnstewart_explosion2.jpg

Next scan:
Explosion continues to destroy the planet. Nowhere on the scan does it show John Steward or J'onn. The only thing we have at this point is that they were tossed into the air.
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/johnstewart_explosion2.jpg

Next scan:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/johnstewart_explosion4.jpg
Planet is pushed through space from the explosion, nowhere do we see either John or J'onn.

Next scan:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/johnstewart_explosion5.jpg
Planet hits the sun, causing sun to be engulfed in chain reaction.

Last scan:
We see the sun way way off in the distance blowing up. You see rocks in the current location. Amongst those rocks is John Stewart. J'onn flies up.

Nowhere in any of those scans does it show either J'onn or John Stewart anywhere even remotely close to the sun. The initial explosion hurled them away before it got worse.

Galan007
Originally posted by Kutulu
Nowhere in any of those scans does it show either J'onn or John Stewart anywhere even remotely close to the sun. The initial explosion hurled them away before it got worse. Show me again where we see them leaving the planet, and 'hanging in space'...

I must have missed that one. smile

Kutulu
Originally posted by Galan007
Show me again where we see them leaving the planet, and 'hanging in space'...

I must have missed that one. smile

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/johnstewart_explosion5.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/johnstewart_explosion6.jpg

Look again at the scan. Can you honestly tell me that they are in the midst of that star exploding?

Galan007
Originally posted by Kutulu
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/johnstewart_explosion5.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/johnstewart_explosion6.jpg

Look again at the scan. Can you honestly tell me that they are in the midst of that star exploding? Since there is nothing showing them leaving the planet?

Yes. smile

Kutulu
Originally posted by Galan007
Show me again where we see them leaving the planet, and 'hanging in space'...

I must have missed that one. smile

Right here it says it tosses him through the air. We see him shot upwards, then the next panel doesn't show him there at all. Meaning he got blasted into the upper atmosphere.
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/johnstewart_explosion1.jpg

Galan007
Originally posted by Kutulu
Right here it says it tosses him through the air. We see him shot upwards, then the next panel doesn't show him there at all. Meaning he got blasted into the upper atmosphere.
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/johnstewart_explosion1.jpg Yes...

We see him get tossed at least a few hundred feet in the air, , so of course this means he was blown into the upper atmosphere! smile

Kutulu
Originally posted by Galan007
Yes...

We see him get tossed at least a few hundred feet in the air, , so of course this means he was blown into the upper atmosphere! smile

Ok - so you're saying that John and J'onn were both in the middle of the blast where the sun blew up? So it's unlikely that they get blown into the atmosphere from a planetary explosion, but an entire sun exploding can blow them 90 million miles away near instantly? That doesn't make sense.

Galan007
Originally posted by Kutulu
Ok - so you're saying that John and J'onn were both in the middle of the blast where the sun blew up? yes

.

Originally posted by Kutulu
So it's unlikely that they get blown into the atmosphere from a planetary explosion, Yes.

Especially when you consider the fact that the planet didn't 'explode', until it made contact with the Star. smile

Originally posted by Kutulu
but an entire sun exploding can blow them 90 million miles away near instantly? That doesn't make sense. Probably because that's not what I said. smile

Kutulu
Originally posted by Galan007
Yes...

We see him get tossed at least a few hundred feet in the air, , so of course this means he was blown into the upper atmosphere! smile

The entire planet blew up, is it that big of a stretch to think that he is blown into space? Look at the final scan, it clearly shows the sun being very far away. If he was still on the planet it would have shown him surrounded by fire, but it didn't. Instead it showed him millions of miles away, sitting on a rock, looking at the explosion. Nowhere in the scans does it show him flying to that rock.

Therefore logically he got blown into space when the initial explosion occurred, and as the planet hurled towards the sun and blew up he sat there and watched.

Kutulu
Originally posted by Galan007
yes
Ok so then show me anywhere that shows either of them being surrounded by fire. Last time I checked, J'onn didn't like fire, so being on the surface of a sun might be a little uncomfortable, especially after the GL shield shattered during the planetary level explosion.

Galan007
Originally posted by Kutulu
The entire planet blew up, is it that big of a stretch to think that he is blown into space? Look at the final scan, it clearly shows the sun being very far away. If he was still on the planet it would have shown him surrounded by fire, but it didn't. Instead it showed him millions of miles away, sitting on a rock, looking at the explosion. Nowhere in the scans does it show him flying to that rock.

Therefore logically he got blown into space when the initial explosion occurred, and as the planet hurled towards the sun and blew up he sat there and watched. Full of personal opinion -- not worth breaking down to answer. smile

Kutulu
Originally posted by Galan007
Full of personal opinion -- not worth breaking down to answer. smile

Ok I'll agree to disagree with you on this, I can live with that.

Galan007
Originally posted by Kutulu
Ok so then show me anywhere that shows either of them being surrounded by fire. Last time I checked, J'onn didn't like fire, so being on the surface of a sun might be a little uncomfortable, especially after the GL shield shattered during the planetary level explosion. Ahh,
Because seeing them surrounded by fire would make all the difference, eh?
Originally posted by Kutulu
Ok I'll agree to disagree with you on this, I can live with that. thumb up

Superboy Prime
Originally posted by Galan007
vegetajv2

By the guardians...!

A Vegeta smilie!

Mr. Slippyfist
Thor just survived a blast from Destroyer's visor...

Larceny
Originally posted by Estacado
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Superman Prime>>>Superman if you hadn't noticed yet.

I thought it was base Superman.

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