Originally posted by Utrigita
I was under the impression that it was MJJ that preformed the switches because of it being Fury that constantly needed to adapt to the changes.
Fury was adapting to the attacks,
which were apparently part of Jaspers' warp
even if they're executed in a physical fashion.
But it was Fury doing the teleporting:
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8411/furyimmunelx7.th.jpg
"Fury proved capable of holding its own against Jaspers,
resisting his reality changes by shapeshifting rapidly
adapting as it teleported them
from one environment to the next across myriad Dimensions,
finally transporting them to the void where its own reality had been once"
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That settles that, agreed?
I'll submit, evidently those physical attacks were considered part of Jaspers' warp.
Originally posted by Utrigita
And IMO that actually doesn't make anything look more pretty because now according to you Jaspers physical Attacks > Universal Nullification.
I'll submit, evidently those physical attacks were considered part of Jaspers' warp.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Okay but we never see MJJ trying to Warp Fury does we
Everything withIN the warp is affected by it.
Only the Fury was "immune" On Panel and in the bio.
(reference) On Panel:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9650/resist1iu2.th.jpg
"Fury ... it never gives up. Not even when the Alternate Earth ...
goes horribly and inexplicably Mad all about it"
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(reference) Fury Bio:
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9739/furyimmune1cd7.th.jpg
"Fury ... unbothered by the raging Reality Warp Jaspers' powers had precipitated"
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(reference) Jaspers' Bio:
In plain english!
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/434/furyimmune2dr1.th.jpg
"Both Jaspers could effortlessly warp Reality ...
only the Fury proved immune, Jaspers Warp."
Originally posted by Utrigita
I also thought that they could pick and choose what they choosed to warp just like when Captain Britain entered he wasn't warped by Jaspers.
Captain Britain was descending into lunacy like everything else in 238.
The Jaspers Warp engulfs everything it comes across and takes no prisoners:
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2622/warp1ct9.th.jpg
"The insanity ... it ripples outwards ... a tidal wave of writhing lunacy.
It engulfs everything and all that engulfs"
But ...
If you mean on 616, there's a reason he didn't succumb immediately like on 238,
the fact, that that was the whole point of Merlyn allowing him to suffer like that on 238,
it was training, preparation for the ultimate threat .... 616 Jaspers:
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3209/warp3ll0.th.jpg
Originally posted by Utrigita
So you are saying Fury being turned into a ball isn't a warping preformed by jaspers and that fury choosed to take on that form because it suited it ????
Nah. I clearly said Fury wasn't vulnerable to the warping.
Jaspers did warp Fury, and Fury shapeshifted out of the warp and attacked back.
Proving it wasn't vulnerable to the warping.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Okay so let forget the on panel incident
Addressed.
Originally posted by Utrigita
I know that after he was changed into a ball he wasn't vulnerable to warp any longer from 616 Jaspers if you would like it that way.
Jaspers was able to warp Fury into a ball,
and Fury was able to immediately shapeshift out it.
That's all, its simple,
Fury didn't change its form completely
because Jaspers was still attacking every bit of the way.
As we gathered up top in this post,
even Jaspers' physical attacks are connected to his warp.
So Jaspers never strikes you physically in the technical sense, (separated from his warp)
cause everything he does is part of his warp.
Originally posted by Utrigita
It is clearly stated that the warp would have killed it thus it was damaged,
hurt ore what ever yu will like to call it.
I agree.
But not enough to make it vulnerable, you feel me?
It took a battle that spanned UniverseS for Fury to weaken,
and again, it's been established now,
that Jaspers' physical attacks are connected to his warp.
Therefore anything Jaspers does, derives from the power of his warp.
But "Vulnerable" ... would've been incapacitation, k.o, or death, from the get.
Originally posted by Utrigita
So time is the all important factor here are you saying that if I throw fury against the infinites for instance he would win if he was given enough time,
what about death and the other abstracts like eternity, Oblivion and Infinity???
The Fury's ace up the sleeve is it's ability to develop a counter for any attack.
With it's astronomical durability, it can find a way, with time.
But I'm not sayin Fury would defeat anyone else right now, so don't quote me.
Originally posted by Utrigita
I don't know and neither do you really since we never saw the effect against fury and IMO would still tire it down which it is all about when fighting fury so slow it down and tire it.
Actually I do know.
There is no energy blast that Jaspers' could've pulled out greater than his warp.
Jaspers' warp, is his ultimate power, come on Ut. you know this.
When Jaspers' warps reality he's manipulating energy btw.
Originally posted by Utrigita
But it would still damage it wore it down a bit tire it and so forth which again is all that counts.
Nah, it wouldn't do anymore damage.
Why would you try and knock a metal wall down with a pistol,
if you already know a canon isn't working as expected?
Originally posted by Utrigita
Secret wars Doom with the power of galactus warped reality around him quiet easily.
You mean the full power of Galactus' Ship ... but who's counting.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Impressive though I have no idea how it makes it a good dubility feat, sorry.
In order for Merlyn to achieve "godhood" he had to go through hell first:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4908/merdw6.th.jpg
"I leaped into the seething cauldron of the energy Matrix"
The sound of that already sounds terrible, "seething cauldron" (ouch)
but just imagine the scale of the fury, this is a power fusing all realities.
Originally posted by Utrigita
If you say so
Actually Marvel says so, as we proved.
Originally posted by Utrigita
I was under the impression that the Switch was MJJ until Fury found a way to teleport Jaspers into the former 238 universe.
Hence the color difference of the Switches.
Addressed up top.