Fury Runs Gauntlet

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endrict
The Cyborg that MJJ made before he came back in Uncanny X-Men Issues #444-447


WWH
Martian Manhunter
Green Lantern
Superman
Dr Strange
Superboy Prime
Onlsaught
Scarlet Witch
Silver Surfer
Anti-Monitor
Galactus

guy222
My friend, where is Blink on that list big grin

SuperiorTech
Fury getting beat by blink is just man its a sad sad day....

guy222
I know, buddy. But it happened

Same issue, Betsy pawned Merlyn. So much for omniversal power

endrict
Remember this is Fury at his best before that happened.

guy222
Be a good match vs WWH

xjustice69x
stops at one as its geting beaten with its own limbs

llagrok
Unless the Hulk can sever it enough, Martian's phasing will get him.

I seriously doubt he will make it past the Hulk.

Nod
Didn't Fury beat Jaspers?

llagrok
Oh right, before Uncanny x-men!

Mr Master
Originally posted by endrict
The Cyborg that MJJ made before he came back in Uncanny X-Men Issues #444-447


WWH
Martian Manhunter
Green Lantern
Superman
Dr Strange
Superboy Prime
Onlsaught
Scarlet Witch
Silver Surfer
Anti-Monitor
Galactus
The real Fury (Classic) not that garbage displayed in "Die by the Sword"
would annihilate that list with ease.

The Fury that appeared in Uncanny X-Men was Not Jaspers' Fury,
that was a much weaker facsimile created by Jamie Braddock.

"Die by the Sword" had promise,
but quickly evolved into 100% bullshit.

Yea,

Jaspers can eliminate a near-infinite amount of Captain Britain corps
with a wave of his hand, and Jaspers was never and would never have been defeated,
then the supposed Fury "Prime" (classic) takes over Jaspers' body from the inside out,
due to Fury's immunity to Reality warping I guess.

Cool. (that's acceptable, because we know it can be true from their histories)

But then the most pathetic PIS comes into the picture,
Captain Britain & Albion jump this so-called Fury "Prime" and cause some damage,
while it's regenerating, Blink shoots it with her energy Quills,
the Quills explode and all that's left of this Fury is a worm. What the f**k?

So the Fury (true Classic)
that's immune to perhaps the most powerful reality warper ever,
the Fury (true Classic) that can withstand the nullification of Time/Space unharmed,
is vulnerable to Blink's silly energy Quills? lmfao

Like Xmarks said, current Claremont = shit writing,
and when one looks at the rest of the inconsistencies, one must agree.

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So the bottomline is,
we will disregard the low showings of "Die by the Sword"
because it completely contradicts the historical make-up/powerset
of the real Classic Fury.

Again,

Fury can withstand the destruction of a Reality unharmed,
but evidently Blink's energy lance quills >>> Universal implosion. laughing


But seriously,
I'm still not sure any of these cats have the same power level as the originals anyway,
or if it's even really them:

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7496/jjcw3.th.jpg

"One wears the Face & Form & memories of James Jaspers,
his companions wear the Form ... of the entity called Fury,

Neither of them is precisely what they seem,

but that revelation is for another time"


This little detail was also left undisclosed.
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Jaspers was impressive, but Roma & Fury were portrayed in a pathetic light.

The comedy involving Merlyn & Psylock was ridiculous aswell.


Merlyn took a blast to the chest from Jaspers that blew out his entire torso:

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/143/xmendiebythesword012007kg5.th.jpg

Merlyn reforms completely instantaneously.


Yea, but ol' Betsy can inflict harm on him. (is this a joke) Yes ... it is.

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Roma dies from a knife wound to the chest/shoulder region:

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4391/87169585ec1.th.jpg

LOL!!!


This is the same being that has re-created a World with a wave of her hand,
re-created the entire X-Men roster with a thought,
and even has absolute control of Time itself:

Here is Roma with Cap. UK:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2444/romarevive1xr7.th.jpg


Roma plucks her husband (who was Dead) from the Past,
And brings him to the Present (Alive) with a gesture:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9536/romarevive2od8.th.jpg


But yea, a Knife > Roma ... crazy

Utrigita
I think this is the complete original before he absorbed the computer the size of a cave...

Mr Master
Originally posted by Utrigita
I think this is the complete original before he absorbed the computer the size of a cave...
He said the one before Uncanny X-Men 444,
which would make that the Fury that absorbed the Cave.

Two real versions of the classic Fury,
pre-cave absorption (withstood the destruction of it's Universe)
post-cave absorption (resisted Jaspers' warp)

Then came X-Men 444,
that's where Jamie's Fury makes its dayview.
(this cat has nothing to do with Jaspers' Fury other than the look)

Then came Die by the Sword,
Claremont's Fury,
a joke in comparison with even Jamie's weaker version.

I mean, it took a Black Hole to take out Jamie's Fury,
and there's no way in hell ... Blink's Quills > Black Hole.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Mr Master
He said the one before Uncanny X-Men 444,
which would make that the Fury that absorbed the Cave.

Two real versions of the classic Fury,
pre-cave absorption (withstood the destruction of it's Universe)
post-cave absorption (resisted Jaspers' warp)

Then came X-Men 444,
that's where Jamie's Fury makes its dayview.
(this cat has nothing to do with Jaspers' Fury other than the look)

Then came Die by the Sword,
Claremont's Fury,
a joke in comparison with even Jamie's weaker version.

I mean, it took a Black Hole to take out Jamie's Fury,
and there's no way in hell ... Blink's Quills > Black Hole.

I was under the impression that the fury absorbed the cave before the 238 universe was destroyed els I find it a bit unlikely that it had survived the destruction but wouldn't have been capable of surviving the warp MJJ preformed on it.

Alfheim
Originally posted by Mr Master


But yea, a Knife > Roma ... crazy

I dunno man I guess Roma just sucks as a character. shifty

Mr Master
Originally posted by Utrigita
I was under the impression that the fury absorbed the cave before the 238 universe was destroyed els I find it a bit unlikely that it had survived the destruction but wouldn't have been capable of surviving the warp MJJ preformed on it.
Actually I was wrong, I just flipped some pages.

Fury absorbed the cpu while here on 616,
which means he withstood universal nullification and 238 Jaspers' Warp unharmed.

It was 616 Jaspers' warp that could've killed the Fury,
had it not absorbed the cpu.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Alfheim
I dunno man I guess Roma just sucks as a character.
Under Claremonts watchful eye?

I agree. smile

But according to her historical make-up,
Roma is an immortal powerhouse who can toy with the Timestream as she sees fit.
Re-create planetary systems, and life with souls,
transcend all planes of reality,
and she can even animate her self image across Universes to interact as need be.

Alfheim
Originally posted by Mr Master
Under Claremonts watchful eye?

I agree. smile

But according to her historical make-up,
Roma is an immortal powerhouse who can toy with the Timestream as she sees fit.
Re-create planetary systems, and life with souls,
transcend all planes of reality,
and she can even animate her self image across Universes to interact as need be.

no no no the characters just sucks shifty no expression

Utrigita
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually I was wrong, I just flipped some pages.

Fury absorbed the cpu while here on 616,
which means he withstood universal nullification and 238 Jaspers' Warp unharmed.

It was 616 Jaspers' warp that could've killed the Fury,
had it not absorbed the cpu.

Okay I have misunderstood it then, I thought that it absorbed the computer in 238.

It was the 616 Jaspers I was refering too.

guy222
Rachel stopped Jaime's Fury

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Mr Master
Under Claremonts watchful eye?

I agree. smile

But according to her historical make-up,
Roma is an immortal powerhouse who can toy with the Timestream as she sees fit.
Re-create planetary systems, and life with souls,
transcend all planes of reality,
and she can even animate her self image across Universes to interact as need be.

And nothing there makes her more durable than an average human.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And nothing there makes her more durable than an average human.

No but makes a death by a knife laugable erm

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Utrigita
No but makes a death by a knife laugable erm

For shame. Death is never funny.





*giggle*

Mr. Slippyfist
What has Fury ever done that would make him be able to annihilate Galactus... with ease none-the-less? Stand up to a reality warper (who, by all rights is powerful, but that's not Galactus's style), teleport, stand up to powerful destruction?

Just because Jaspers is powerful, that doesn't mean that anyone who beats him a certain way, is going to defeat Galactus.

Curiosity is all.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
For shame. Death is never funny.





*giggle*

laughing out loud

agreed my father died 4 years ago and it wasn't funny

Utrigita
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
What has Fury ever done that would make him be able to annihilate Galactus... with ease none-the-less? Stand up to a reality warper (who, by all rights is powerful, but that's not Galactus's style), teleport, stand up to powerful destruction?

Just because Jaspers is powerful, that doesn't mean that anyone who beats him a certain way, is going to defeat Galactus.

Curiosity is all.

I have been wondering this to Mr Slippyfist, it smells a bit like ABC logic

Alfheim
Well I think Fury survived the destruction of the universe.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well I think Fury survived the destruction of the universe.

It survived the destruction of a universe but if it haven't absorbed the size of a cave in the 616 according to master on page 1 the 616 Jaspers reality warp on it would have killed it, so a single warp from jaspers > Nullification from the CN... apparently

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Mr Master
But seriously,
I'm still not sure any of these cats have the same power level as the originals anyway,
or if it's even really them:

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7496/jjcw3.th.jpg

"One wears the Face & Form & memories of James Jaspers,
his companions wear the Form ... of the entity called Fury,

Neither of them is precisely what they seem,

but that revelation is for another time"


This little detail was also left undisclosed.


Which issue was that in?

Mr Master
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And nothing there makes her more durable than an average human.
You're right. Perhaps the fact that she's a "god" (I left that out)

Or we can also look at her durability during HOM,
when the Chaos Wave swept through the dimensional walls of Otherworld,
it was a direct hit on the Starlight Citidel: (which contains a near-Multiverse withIN)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/37/57705533gs8.th.jpg
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When this happened, the Starlight Citidel was smashed down,
this caused all the UniverseS withIN the Citidel to amalgamate,
and resurrect Jaspers:

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3205/68112689ik6.th.jpg
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Roma was ko'd for a few seconds,
but as we can see, Roma regains consciousness quickly:

She also has the entire upper level of the Citidel on top of her:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2621/22041472mz4.th.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4792/61624865fz0.th.jpg
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Next page, Roma's perfectly fine, and giving orders again.

I have several other examples
but these are very good durability showings.

Merlin was also unable to recover completely
from his knife wound on his ankle (in book #4)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9939/xmendiebythesword042008wm6.th.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2137/xmendiebythesword042008mt8.th.jpg


This wound is still fresh at the end of Book #5:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9668/xmendiebythesword0525ps5.th.jpg


but Merlin can reform instantly to perfection
after Jaspers blows his entire torso & back out. (in book #1)

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/143/xmendiebythesword012007kg5.th.jpg

That's some dumb shit imo SC.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Which issue was that in?
X-Men "Die by the Sword" #3

Mr Master
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
What has Fury ever done that would make him be able to annihilate Galactus...
Survive the nullification of Time/Space (unharmed) which Galactus himself fears.

Went toe to toe, survived and defeated a being who's power is beyond nullifiers.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
with ease none-the-less?
I'll elaborate, Fury would definitely have to go through his pattern,
fight, test, adapt and learn how to win.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Stand up to a reality warper
(who, by all rights is powerful, but that's not Galactus's style),
teleport, stand up to powerful destruction?
One of the top 3 most powerful Reality warpers ever.

"Style?" ... Jaspers tried to alter reality, but Fury was simply unaffected,
so Jaspers turned it into a hand to hand combat,
in this manner, Jaspers was able to weaken the Fury with sheer brute force.

Remember, Jaspers can make himself as strong as he wants withIN his warp.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Just because Jaspers is powerful,
that doesn't mean that anyone who beats him a certain way,
is going to defeat Galactus.
It's not only that though,
normal Galactus simply would not be able hurt classic Fury imo.
So Fury has all day to adapt and figure a way to win.
Fury's blasts are ridiculously powerful too,
even Matrix/Merlyn got his hands burned by a Fury blast.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Curiosity is all.
Respected friend. smile

Originally posted by Utrigita
I have been wondering this to Mr Slippyfist, it smells a bit like ABC logic
I disagree.
Originally posted by Utrigita
It survived the destruction of a universe but if it haven't absorbed the size of a cave in the 616 according to master on page 1 the 616 Jaspers reality warp on it would have killed it, so a single warp from jaspers > Nullification from the CN... apparently
Correct. 616 Jaspers' warp > nullifiers of Time/Space.

Jaspers was no joke fellas. yes

guy222
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well I think Fury survived the destruction of the universe.

and was stopped by blink big grin

Mr Master
Originally posted by guy222
and was stopped by blink
And was stopped by 100% PIS, more like it, good friend.

Anyone who knows Blink's powerset, (and the damage potential of her Quills)
would know what she did isn't plausible.

Unless of course, that wasn't the real Fury or Jaspers. smile
Well, atleast Jaspers seemed like Jaspers,
but this Claremont Fury is a joke.

So yea guy I agree, Blink took out Claremont's Fury.
But obviously Moore's Fury is a whole different story

guy222
I know, my friend

Its a shame some characters are downplayed so one can shine

Utrigita
Originally posted by Mr Master
Survive the nullification of Time/Space (unharmed) which Galactus himself fears.

Went toe to toe, survived and defeated a being who's power is beyond nullifiers.

A being that would have killed him one the spot if he hadn't absorbed the Computer the switches from The moon to the ocean floor and then to the sun would have killed it.

http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mjj44ln4.jpg

I'll elaborate, Fury would definitely have to go through his pattern,
fight, test, adapt and learn how to win.

But it needs a lot of time to figure out a way to defeat MJJ none the less and the battle wore it down.

One of the top 3 most powerful Reality warpers ever.

"Style?" ... Jaspers tried to alter reality, but Fury was simply unaffected,
so Jaspers turned it into a hand to hand combat,
in this manner, Jaspers was able to weaken the Fury with sheer brute force.

Unaffected, it was turned into a ball before it adapted and It didn't change it form until they where back in 238 where MJJ had no reality to warp thus IMO no way to keep fury in that form.

Remember, Jaspers can make himself as strong as he wants withIN his warp.

And he was teleported outside his warp during there fights by fury wasn't he???

It's not only that though,
normal Galactus simply would not be able hurt classic Fury imo.
So Fury has all day to adapt and figure a way to win.
Fury's blasts are ridiculously powerful too,
even Matrix/Merlyn got his hands burned by a Fury blast.

He could hammer on it just like MJJ did, and MJJ had just "one" power that was to warp reality Galactus has the PC and can produce a number of effects against it. And I have no idea about the durability of Merlyn.

Respected friend. smile

I apparently isn't sad

I disagree.

It's okay smile

Correct. 616 Jaspers' warp > nullifiers of Time/Space.

So it would seem yes and that looks a bit odd IMO.

Jaspers was no joke fellas. yes

We know Jaspers was no joke, but fury itself is like you said a plot device that only managed to defeat MJJ because of it having gained control over a computer the size of a cave and had the ability to resist the warp because of that els it wouldn't have stood a chance against MJJ.

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by Mr Master
Survive the nullification of Time/Space (unharmed) which Galactus himself fears.

Went toe to toe, survived and defeated a being who's power is beyond nullifiers.

I'll elaborate, Fury would definitely have to go through his pattern,
fight, test, adapt and learn how to win.

One of the top 3 most powerful Reality warpers ever.

"Style?" ... Jaspers tried to alter reality, but Fury was simply unaffected,
so Jaspers turned it into a hand to hand combat,
in this manner, Jaspers was able to weaken the Fury with sheer brute force.

Remember, Jaspers can make himself as strong as he wants withIN his warp.

It's not only that though,
normal Galactus simply would not be able hurt classic Fury imo.
So Fury has all day to adapt and figure a way to win.
Fury's blasts are ridiculously powerful too,
even Matrix/Merlyn got his hands burned by a Fury blast.
I think U answered this... don't know, but there's no point in two people debating it.

Although... because his durability might be extremely high, that would make him be able to easily annihilate Galactus?

And of course, Jaspers did make his strength as high as he wanted... because he can... ermm

So, if it would take him all day to beat Galactus... how exactly is that easily annihilating Galactus?

Mr Master
Originally posted by Utrigita
A being that would have killed him one the spot if he hadn't absorbed the Computer the switches from The moon to the ocean floor and then to the sun would have killed it.

http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mjj44ln4.jpg
What difference does it make?
Fury still withstood a Nullifier, without absorbing the CPU.
Fury also withstood 238 Jaspers' warp (which engulfed the entire 238 Universe)
Time/Space everything was taken over by 238 Jaspers' warp,
including 238 Galactus I'm sure, since the entire Reality was warped.

btw. I don't see the point of the scan Ut.

Bottomline:

Even without the CPU, Fury is still far more durable than Galactus. smile
Originally posted by Utrigita
But it needs a lot of time to figure out a way to defeat MJJ
none the less and the battle wore it down.
Well I'm not surprised, classic Jaspers was a "god" destined to reform the Omniverse,
it would've been silly for Fury to win easily.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Unaffected,
Yes. According to Fury's bio, Fury was immune to both Jaspers' warps.
Originally posted by Utrigita
it was turned into a ball before it adapted and It didn't change it form until they where back in 238 where MJJ had no reality to warp thus IMO no way to keep fury in that form.
Not quite friend.
Fury was warped into a ball,
and then Fury shapeshifted out of it in an instant. (hence the immunity)

And you're incorrect about Jaspers keeping Fury warped through out the fight,
Fury was shapeshifting on his own,
it had nothing to do with Jaspers after the "ball" incident.

In fact, they were both shapeshifting into creature-like beings,
while they battled hand to hand.
Originally posted by Utrigita
And he was teleported outside his warp during there fights by fury wasn't he???
Yes. Because Fury was immune to his warp.
Originally posted by Utrigita
He could hammer on it just like MJJ did
While Fury just stands there and takes the punishment right? no

Galactus is not 616 Jaspers ... not even close.
Originally posted by Utrigita
and MJJ had just "one" power that was to warp reality
Galactus has the PC and can produce a number of effects against it.
Warping Reality is the ultimate power,
one only needs this ability to be able to do anything.
(after that, it's just a matter of scale)

PC is a joke in comparison.
Originally posted by Utrigita
And I have no idea about the durability of Merlyn.
Matrix/Merlyn? god-like.
Originally posted by Utrigita
So it would seem yes and that looks a bit odd IMO.
I don't see why.
Originally posted by Utrigita
We know Jaspers was no joke,
but fury itself is like you said a plot device that only managed to defeat MJJ
because of it having gained control over a computer the size of a cave and had the ability to resist the warp because of that els it wouldn't have stood a chance against MJJ.
I agree and disagree.

While it's true, Fury was Jaspers' plot device to lose,
the Fury was a monster in it's own right.

Let's not overlook the Fact,
that Fury withOUT the CPU,
withstood the Nullification of all Time/Space of it's native Universe,
and withstood 238 Jaspers' warp
(which completely engulfed everything (concepts and all) in Reality 238)

Mr Master
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I think U answered this... don't know
Somewhat, several mixed up accounts of the events but he's cool.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
but there's no point in two people debating it.
I agree, it's been debated before anyway.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Although... because his durability might be extremely high,
that would make him be able to easily annihilate Galactus?
I elaborated in the first post I replied to you in.

Fury would definitely have to follow his common pattern,
fight, test, adapt, and thus learn how to win.

So I recant my staement, it shouldn't be easily,
it should take work, but with the same end result,
Fury winning somehow.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And of course, Jaspers did make his strength as high as he wanted... because he can...
? ... ok ...
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So, if it would take him all day to beat Galactus...
how exactly is that easily annihilating Galactus?
I didn't say it would take him all day,
I said Fury has all day.
(meaning Fury has all the time in the world, since Galactus can never hurt it)

And again, it wouldn't be "easily" but imo,
based on the real Fury's showings,
confirmed statements by other cats in the classic arc,
and the Fury's and Jaspers' bios,
Fury can defeat Galactus level beings, perhaps not easily, but imo definitely.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Mr Master
What difference does it make?
Fury still withstood a Nullifier, without absorbing the CPU.
Fury also withstood 238 Jaspers' warp (which engulfed the entire 238 Universe)
Time/Space everything was taken over by 238 Jaspers' warp,
including 238 Galactus I'm sure, since the entire Reality was warped.

btw. I don't see the point of the scan Ut.

Bottomline:

Even without the CPU, Fury is still far more durable than Galactus. smile

The point of the scan is to show you that Fury could be killed harmed and destroyed by something far less then a universal nullification. The Switz's between the moon the ocean floor and the sun.

Well I'm not surprised, classic Jaspers was a "god" destined to reform the Omniverse,
it would've been silly for Fury to win easily.

Agreed.

Yes. According to Fury's bio, Fury was immune to both Jaspers' warps.

Well to my knowledge 238 Jaspers never tried to warp Fury did he???

Not quite friend.
Fury was warped into a ball,
and then Fury shapeshifted out of it in an instant. (hence the immunity)

Thus he was also at that point of time vulnerable to reality warping hence my reasons for saying above that 238 Jaspers most likely never warped him.

And you're incorrect about Jaspers keeping Fury warped through out the fight,
Fury was shapeshifting on his own,
it had nothing to do with Jaspers after the "ball" incident.

He was the ball of the entire fight was he not??? I doesn't see him taking another form sure I see the spikes and so forth but I doesn't see him change back to his old self before they are located in the 238 dimension.

In fact, they were both shapeshifting into creature-like beings,
while they battled hand to hand.

Jaspers was changing.

Yes. Because Fury was immune to his warp.

Became Immune, IMO.

While Fury just stands there and takes the punishment right? no

I didn't say that Fury wouldn't attack too.

Galactus is not 616 Jaspers ... not even close.

I'm not disagreeing on this I'm disagreeing on the fact that because fury toke down MJJ apparently he is capable of taking down practically everyone below MJJ. That's the impression I'm being given about Fury.

Warping Reality is the ultimate power,
one only needs this ability to be able to do anything.
(after that, it's just a matter of scale)

Well what did we see Jaspers use against him other then pure physical attacks nothing no energy blast he didn't even try and so forth.

PC is a joke in comparison.

Perhaps but Reality warping is within the abilities for a user of the PC.

Matrix/Merlyn? god-like.

God Like Durability. Just like they showed in the recent comic stick out tongue but on another note based on what???

I don't see why.

You don't think that it is strange that nullification is below MJJ wave of his hand??? and that fury survived nullification but would be killed by having the environment around him changed???

I agree and disagree.

While it's true, Fury was Jaspers' plot device to lose,
the Fury was a monster in it's own right.

Let's not overlook the Fact,
that Fury withOUT the CPU,
withstood the Nullification of all Time/Space of it's native Universe,
and withstood 238 Jaspers' warp
(which completely engulfed everything (concepts and all) in Reality 238)

And would have been killed by changing the battle ground erm I find the durability very inconsistent.

Count Nefaria
Damm.The Fury is so watered down,the Trapster could probably beat him now cool

Mr Master
Originally posted by Utrigita
The point of the scan is to show you that Fury could be killed harmed and destroyed by something far less then a universal nullification. The Switz's between the moon the ocean floor and the sun.
Ut. ... what are you talking about?

The only damage Fury was receiving was from Jaspers in that entire battle.
Those are just locations that the Fury itself teleported Jaspers onto.
Why would the Fury bfr itself into the Sun, if the Sun could hurt it?
Originally posted by Utrigita
Well to my knowledge 238 Jaspers never tried to warp Fury did he???
Yes he did actually.
Jaspers' warp (either one) has no preferences. (everything it tries to warp)
The Fury was withIN 238 when the entire continuum was rearrange by Jaspers.
Fury was unfazed, this is confirmed in Fury's bio.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Thus he was also at that point of time vulnerable to reality warping hence my reasons for saying above that 238 Jaspers most likely never warped him.
If Fury had been vulnerable, Fury would not have killed him.
And again, 238 Jaspers warp did try to overcome Fury (like everything else in 238)
but Fury was unfazed.
Originally posted by Utrigita
He was the ball of the entire fight was he not??? I doesn't see him taking another form sure I see the spikes and so forth but I doesn't see him change back to his old self before they are located in the 238 dimension.
Again, if Fury would have been vulnerable (in any way) to the warping,
he wouldn't have killed him.

Again, Marvel has already established it as fact,
that Fury was immune to Jaspers' 616 warping after Fury absorbed the cpu.
Fury was also immune to 238 Jaspers' warp withOUT the need of the cpu.
That's on panel and confirmed in the bio,
arguing against that specific point is futile.

In the battle, Fury simply decided to fight in that form,
it had nothing to do with vulnerability.
Fury was able to teleport across UniverseS good friend,
while battling a "god" to the death.

Vulnerable? Nah. smile

Now the physical attacks did damage Fury, but not the warp.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Jaspers was changing.
They both were, Jaspers' changes were just more exotic.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Became Immune, IMO.
Was immune according to Marvel.

Certain things can be left as opinions, others are simply fact.
Originally posted by Utrigita
I'm not disagreeing on this I'm disagreeing on the fact that because fury toke down MJJ apparently he is capable of taking down practically everyone below MJJ. That's the impression I'm being given about Fury.
With time? ... pretty much.
Don't forget,
Fury can buid/create from it's own cybiote/organic self,
weapons and purposeful equipment of practically any design or kind.

Even if it's back up neuro processor was to malfuntion due to damage,
Fury can either rebuild that one, or build another completely new one within itself.

Or shut down it's unit totaly therefore relying only on instinct.
(he did this when Fascination/Scatterbrain expanded the Fury's "brain" across the Omniverse in an instant ...
Fury resisted it, and owned her)
And that's another incredible durability feat btw. thumb up
Originally posted by Utrigita
Well what did we see Jaspers use against him other then pure physical attacks nothing no energy blast he didn't even try and so forth.
Ut. if Fury was unaffected by Jaspers' warp,
what is some energy blast gonna do?

Jaspers' warp is the most powerful force Jaspers can bring concerning energy.
If a weapon that can re-arrange Reality completely doesn't work,
it's more than likely that blasts (of any kind) wouldn't make any difference.

This is why Moore put them in a physical duel.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Perhaps but Reality warping is within the abilities for a user of the PC.
I doubt that.
Matter manipulation and Reality warping are seperate entites.

Reality warping >>> Matter manipulation.
Originally posted by Utrigita
God Like Durability. Just like they showed in the recent comic
stoned
Originally posted by Utrigita
but on another note based on what???
Uhh, ... that he was a "god" while merged to the Matrix?
Actually just to merge to the Matrix,
Merlyn had to perform an incredible durability feat.
When he dove into the unstable Matrix,
and while being physically hurtled through the Omniverse,
Merlyn was able to not only survive, but take control of the Matrix.
Indeed, even become one with the Matrix.
Originally posted by Utrigita
You don't think that it is strange that nullification is below MJJ wave of his hand??? and that fury survived nullification but would be killed by having the environment around him changed???
This was addressed up top in this post.

You interpreted that bit incorrectly good friend.
Originally posted by Utrigita
And would have been killed by changing the battle ground
I find the durability very inconsistent.
Again, addressed up top in this post.

Fury was never damaged by any environment,
for it was Fury itself taking Jaspers into those environments.
Fury is far from stupid, it wouldn't do that if it could be damaged by said environments.

What do you think "Switch" means everytime the scene changes?

That's a "sound effect" to note Fury teleporting. smile

Galan007
Originally posted by Utrigita
I find the durability very inconsistent. As do I...

Mr Master
Originally posted by Galan007
As do I...
You have any examples concerning the original arcs?

*edit* I reviewed the saga to complete my debate with Ut.
I didn't find any inconsistencies, letalone a "very inconsistent" depiction,
but I'm interested in finding out to what you're referring too, good friend.

Galan007
Originally posted by Mr Master
You have any examples concerning the original arcs? Yes.

In Fury's 'original' form , it could survive Universal nullification -- and easily at that...

Yet it was ultimately taken down like this?:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_fury_death1.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_fury_death2.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_fury_death3.jpg



I understand how weak Fury was at that point -- but it's still ridiculous, imo. thumb down

Mr Master
Originally posted by Galan007
Yes.

In Fury's 'original' form , it could survive Universal nullification -- and easily at that...

Yet it was ultimately taken down like this?
That's a bit misleading no?
Originally posted by Galan007

I understand how weak Fury was at that point -- but it's still ridiculous, imo.
I disagree.
Fury had just battled 616 Jaspers across Universes to the death,
when it was over, Fury was extremely depleted,
Captain Britain attacked first and was almost killed,
then the enraged Captain UK (who lost her husband to the Fury)
went berserk on the severely weakened Fury.

Like I said, I reviewed the arc again, didn't see any inconsistency,
and if this is what you were referring to,
I'm thinking you're pulling my chain. mad stick out tongue

Galan007
Originally posted by Galan007
I understand how weak Fury was at that point -- but it's still ridiculous, imo. thumb down

Mr Master
So you're not understanding how weak the Fury was .... "at that point." smile
Originally posted by Mr Master

Like I said, I reviewed the arc again, didn't see any inconsistency,

and if this is what you were referring to,

I'm thinking you're pulling my chain. stick out tongue

Mr Master
(off-topic)

Btw. brother G, did you see those last scans I posted in my thread,
a new cat has just entered the hierarchy, thing is I don't know how to place him,
there's factors involved.

Peep the scans and tell me your thoughts,
and his placement, you'l see what I mean by "factors." smile

The scans pretty much speak for themselves,
I posted the relevant ones that deliver sufficient info for one to get the picture.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Mr Master
Ut. ... what are you talking about?

The only damage Fury was receiving was from Jaspers in that entire battle.
Those are just locations that the Fury itself teleported Jaspers onto.
Why would the Fury bfr itself into the Sun, if the Sun could hurt it?

I was under the impression that it was MJJ that preformed the switches because of it being Fury that constantly needed to adapt to the changes. And IMO that actually doesn't make anything look more pretty because now according to you Jaspers physical Attacks > Universal Nullification. smile

Yes he did actually.
Jaspers' warp (either one) has no preferences. (everything it tries to warp)
The Fury was withIN 238 when the entire continuum was rearrange by Jaspers.
Fury was unfazed, this is confirmed in Fury's bio.

Okay but we never see MJJ trying to Warp Fury does we, I also thought that they could pick and choose what they choosed to warp just like when Captain Britain entered he wasn't warped by Jaspers.

If Fury had been vulnerable, Fury would not have killed him.
And again, 238 Jaspers warp did try to overcome Fury (like everything else in 238)
but Fury was unfazed.

Okay but maybe it can be referede to 616 jaspers > 238 Jaspers.

Again, if Fury would have been vulnerable (in any way) to the warping,
he wouldn't have killed him.

So you are saying Fury being turned into a ball isn't a warping preformed by jaspers and that fury choosed to take on that form because it suited it ????

Again, Marvel has already established it as fact,
that Fury was immune to Jaspers' 616 warping after Fury absorbed the cpu.
Fury was also immune to 238 Jaspers' warp withOUT the need of the cpu.
That's on panel and confirmed in the bio,
arguing against that specific point is futile.

Okay so let forget the on panel incident smile

In the battle, Fury simply decided to fight in that form,
it had nothing to do with vulnerability.
Fury was able to teleport across UniverseS good friend,
while battling a "god" to the death.

I know that after he was changed into a ball he wasn't vulnerable to warp any longer from 616 Jaspers if you would like it that way.

Vulnerable? Nah. smile

Now the physical attacks did damage Fury, but not the warp.

They both were, Jaspers' changes were just more exotic.

Was immune according to Marvel.

Certain things can be left as opinions, others are simply fact.

It is clearly stated that the warp would have killed it thus it was damaged, hurt ore what ever yu will like to call it.

With time? ... pretty much.
Don't forget,
Fury can buid/create from it's own cybiote/organic self,
weapons and purposeful equipment of practically any design or kind.

Even if it's back up neuro processor was to malfuntion due to damage,
Fury can either rebuild that one, or build another completely new one within itself.

Or shut down it's unit totaly therefore relying only on instinct.
(he did this when Fascination/Scatterbrain expanded the Fury's "brain" across the Omniverse in an instant ...
Fury resisted it, and owned her)
And that's another incredible durability feat btw. thumb up

So time is the all important factor here are you saying that if I throw fury against the infinites for instance he would win if he was given enough time, what about death and the other abstracts like eternity, Oblivion and Infinity???

Ut. if Fury was unaffected by Jaspers' warp,
what is some energy blast gonna do?

I don't know and neither do you really since we never saw the effect against fury and IMO would still tire it down which it is all about when fighting fury so slow it down and tire it.

Jaspers' warp is the most powerful force Jaspers can bring concerning energy.
If a weapon that can re-arrange Reality completely doesn't work,
it's more than likely that blasts (of any kind) wouldn't make any difference.

But it would still damage it wore it down a bit tire it and so forth which again is all that counts.

This is why Moore put them in a physical duel.

Okay.

Matter manipulation and Reality warping are seperate entites.

Yes I asked the question once in the respect thread.

Reality warping >>> Matter manipulation.

Secret wars Doom with the power of galactus warped reality around him quiet easily.

stoned

wink

Uhh, ... that he was a "god" while merged to the Matrix?
Actually just to merge to the Matrix,
Merlyn had to perform an incredible durability feat.
When he dove into the unstable Matrix,
and while being physically hurtled through the Omniverse,
Merlyn was able to not only survive, but take control of the Matrix.
Indeed, even become one with the Matrix.

Impressive though I have no idea how it makes it a good dubility feat embarrasment sorry.

This was addressed up top in this post.

You interpreted that bit incorrectly good friend.

If you say so smile

Again, addressed up top in this post.

Fury was never damaged by any environment,
for it was Fury itself taking Jaspers into those environments.
Fury is far from stupid, it wouldn't do that if it could be damaged by said environments.

What do you think "Switch" means everytime the scene changes?

That's a "sound effect" to note Fury teleporting. smile

I was under the impression that the Switch was MJJ until Fury found a way to teleport Jaspers into the former 238 universe. Hence the color difference of the Switches.

Galan007
Originally posted by Mr Master
(off-topic)

Btw. brother G, did you see those last scans I posted in my thread,
a new cat has just entered the hierarchy, thing is I don't know how to place him,
there's factors involved.

Peep the scans and tell me your thoughts,
and his placement, you'l see what I mean by "factors." smile

The scans pretty much speak for themselves,
I posted the relevant ones that deliver sufficient info for one to get the picture. Cochran?

I didn't see too much in the feat department to properly gauge him.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Utrigita
I was under the impression that it was MJJ that preformed the switches because of it being Fury that constantly needed to adapt to the changes.

Fury was adapting to the attacks,
which were apparently part of Jaspers' warp
even if they're executed in a physical fashion.

But it was Fury doing the teleporting:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8411/furyimmunelx7.th.jpg

"Fury proved capable of holding its own against Jaspers,
resisting his reality changes by shapeshifting rapidly
adapting as it teleported them
from one environment to the next across myriad Dimensions,
finally transporting them to the void where its own reality had been once"
.........................................................................................................

That settles that, agreed?

I'll submit, evidently those physical attacks were considered part of Jaspers' warp.

Originally posted by Utrigita
And IMO that actually doesn't make anything look more pretty because now according to you Jaspers physical Attacks > Universal Nullification.
I'll submit, evidently those physical attacks were considered part of Jaspers' warp.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Okay but we never see MJJ trying to Warp Fury does we
Everything withIN the warp is affected by it.

Only the Fury was "immune" On Panel and in the bio.

(reference) On Panel:

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9650/resist1iu2.th.jpg

"Fury ... it never gives up. Not even when the Alternate Earth ...
goes horribly and inexplicably Mad all about it"

.........................................................................................................


(reference) Fury Bio:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9739/furyimmune1cd7.th.jpg

"Fury ... unbothered by the raging Reality Warp Jaspers' powers had precipitated"

.........................................................................................................


(reference) Jaspers' Bio:

In plain english!

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/434/furyimmune2dr1.th.jpg

"Both Jaspers could effortlessly warp Reality ...
only the Fury proved immune, Jaspers Warp."

Originally posted by Utrigita
I also thought that they could pick and choose what they choosed to warp just like when Captain Britain entered he wasn't warped by Jaspers.
Captain Britain was descending into lunacy like everything else in 238.

The Jaspers Warp engulfs everything it comes across and takes no prisoners:

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2622/warp1ct9.th.jpg

"The insanity ... it ripples outwards ... a tidal wave of writhing lunacy.
It engulfs everything and all that engulfs"

But ...

If you mean on 616, there's a reason he didn't succumb immediately like on 238,
the fact, that that was the whole point of Merlyn allowing him to suffer like that on 238,
it was training, preparation for the ultimate threat .... 616 Jaspers:

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3209/warp3ll0.th.jpg
Originally posted by Utrigita
So you are saying Fury being turned into a ball isn't a warping preformed by jaspers and that fury choosed to take on that form because it suited it ????
Nah. I clearly said Fury wasn't vulnerable to the warping.
Jaspers did warp Fury, and Fury shapeshifted out of the warp and attacked back.

Proving it wasn't vulnerable to the warping.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Okay so let forget the on panel incident
Addressed.
Originally posted by Utrigita
I know that after he was changed into a ball he wasn't vulnerable to warp any longer from 616 Jaspers if you would like it that way.
Jaspers was able to warp Fury into a ball,
and Fury was able to immediately shapeshift out it.

That's all, its simple,
Fury didn't change its form completely
because Jaspers was still attacking every bit of the way.

As we gathered up top in this post,
even Jaspers' physical attacks are connected to his warp.
So Jaspers never strikes you physically in the technical sense, (separated from his warp)
cause everything he does is part of his warp.
Originally posted by Utrigita
It is clearly stated that the warp would have killed it thus it was damaged,
hurt ore what ever yu will like to call it.
I agree.
But not enough to make it vulnerable, you feel me?
It took a battle that spanned UniverseS for Fury to weaken,
and again, it's been established now,
that Jaspers' physical attacks are connected to his warp.
Therefore anything Jaspers does, derives from the power of his warp.

But "Vulnerable" ... would've been incapacitation, k.o, or death, from the get.
Originally posted by Utrigita
So time is the all important factor here are you saying that if I throw fury against the infinites for instance he would win if he was given enough time,
what about death and the other abstracts like eternity, Oblivion and Infinity???
The Fury's ace up the sleeve is it's ability to develop a counter for any attack.
With it's astronomical durability, it can find a way, with time.
But I'm not sayin Fury would defeat anyone else right now, so don't quote me.
Originally posted by Utrigita
I don't know and neither do you really since we never saw the effect against fury and IMO would still tire it down which it is all about when fighting fury so slow it down and tire it.
Actually I do know.
There is no energy blast that Jaspers' could've pulled out greater than his warp.
Jaspers' warp, is his ultimate power, come on Ut. you know this.

When Jaspers' warps reality he's manipulating energy btw.
Originally posted by Utrigita
But it would still damage it wore it down a bit tire it and so forth which again is all that counts.
Nah, it wouldn't do anymore damage.

Why would you try and knock a metal wall down with a pistol,
if you already know a canon isn't working as expected?
Originally posted by Utrigita
Secret wars Doom with the power of galactus warped reality around him quiet easily.
You mean the full power of Galactus' Ship ... but who's counting. smile
Originally posted by Utrigita
Impressive though I have no idea how it makes it a good dubility feat, sorry.

In order for Merlyn to achieve "godhood" he had to go through hell first:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4908/merdw6.th.jpg
"I leaped into the seething cauldron of the energy Matrix"

The sound of that already sounds terrible, "seething cauldron" (ouch)
but just imagine the scale of the fury, this is a power fusing all realities.
Originally posted by Utrigita
If you say so
Actually Marvel says so, as we proved. smile
Originally posted by Utrigita
I was under the impression that the Switch was MJJ until Fury found a way to teleport Jaspers into the former 238 universe.
Hence the color difference of the Switches.
Addressed up top.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Mr Master
Fury was adapting to the attacks,
which were apparently part of Jaspers' warp
even if they're executed in a physical fashion.

But it was Fury doing the teleporting:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8411/furyimmunelx7.th.jpg

"Fury proved capable of holding its own against Jaspers,
resisting his reality changes by shapeshifting rapidly
adapting as it teleported them
from one environment to the next across myriad Dimensions,
finally transporting them to the void where its own reality had been once"
.........................................................................................................

That settles that, agreed?

I'll submit, evidently those physical attacks were considered part of Jaspers' warp.


I'll submit, evidently those physical attacks were considered part of Jaspers' warp.

Everything withIN the warp is affected by it.

Only the Fury was "immune" On Panel and in the bio.

(reference) On Panel:

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9650/resist1iu2.th.jpg

"Fury ... it never gives up. Not even when the Alternate Earth ...
goes horribly and inexplicably Mad all about it"

.........................................................................................................


(reference) Fury Bio:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9739/furyimmune1cd7.th.jpg

"Fury ... unbothered by the raging Reality Warp Jaspers' powers had precipitated"

.........................................................................................................


(reference) Jaspers' Bio:

In plain english!

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/434/furyimmune2dr1.th.jpg

"Both Jaspers could effortlessly warp Reality ...
only the Fury proved immune, Jaspers Warp."


Captain Britain was descending into lunacy like everything else in 238.

The Jaspers Warp engulfs everything it comes across and takes no prisoners:

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2622/warp1ct9.th.jpg

"The insanity ... it ripples outwards ... a tidal wave of writhing lunacy.
It engulfs everything and all that engulfs"

But ...

If you mean on 616, there's a reason he didn't succumb immediately like on 238,
the fact, that that was the whole point of Merlyn allowing him to suffer like that on 238,
it was training, preparation for the ultimate threat .... 616 Jaspers:

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3209/warp3ll0.th.jpg

Nah. I clearly said Fury wasn't vulnerable to the warping.
Jaspers did warp Fury, and Fury shapeshifted out of the warp and attacked back.

Proving it wasn't vulnerable to the warping.

Addressed.

Jaspers was able to warp Fury into a ball,
and Fury was able to immediately shapeshift out it.

That's all, its simple,
Fury didn't change its form completely
because Jaspers was still attacking every bit of the way.

As we gathered up top in this post,
even Jaspers' physical attacks are connected to his warp.
So Jaspers never strikes you physically in the technical sense, (separated from his warp)
cause everything he does is part of his warp.

I agree.
But not enough to make it vulnerable, you feel me?
It took a battle that spanned UniverseS for Fury to weaken,
and again, it's been established now,
that Jaspers' physical attacks are connected to his warp.
Therefore anything Jaspers does, derives from the power of his warp.

But "Vulnerable" ... would've been incapacitation, k.o, or death, from the get.

The Fury's ace up the sleeve is it's ability to develop a counter for any attack.
With it's astronomical durability, it can find a way, with time.
But I'm not sayin Fury would defeat anyone else right now, so don't quote me.

Actually I do know.
There is no energy blast that Jaspers' could've pulled out greater than his warp.
Jaspers' warp, is his ultimate power, come on Ut. you know this.

When Jaspers' warps reality he's manipulating energy btw.

Nah, it wouldn't do anymore damage.

Why would you try and knock a metal wall down with a pistol,
if you already know a canon isn't working as expected?

You mean the full power of Galactus' Ship ... but who's counting. smile


In order for Merlyn to achieve "godhood" he had to go through hell first:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4908/merdw6.th.jpg
"I leaped into the seething cauldron of the energy Matrix"

The sound of that already sounds terrible, "seething cauldron" (ouch)
but just imagine the scale of the fury, this is a power fusing all realities.

Actually Marvel says so, as we proved. smile

Addressed up top.

Okay cool happy newyear cool

Utrigita
Wrote a more filling response afterwards but I surpassed the 15 minutes

SoulDevourer
should stop @ WWH or Antimonitor (this guy eat universes 4 breakfast big grin)

Enyalus
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
should stop @ WWH or Antimonitor (this guy eat universes 4 breakfast big grin)
Yeah, I mean, WWH and AM are so totally like in the same league....


Fury clears this.

Galan007
fury never did anything that would indicate he could harm COIE-AM.

Enyalus
Originally posted by Galan007
fury never did anything that would indicate he could harm COIE-AM.
Most recent versions. stick out tongue

Galan007
haw-som

Enyalus
I agree. COIE AM > Fury.


...Except where it counts most, coolness.

Knowsbleed33
Fury clears it.

If destroying a universe can't kill the Fury, I don't know what CoIE AM can do since that's about all he did.

SoulDevourer
AM dont just destroy universes he eats em stick out tongue


btw destroyin universe cant do squat to MJJ either yet energy blast can disintagrate him WTF? huh (he regenerates but the blast still pwned him)

Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
btw destroyin universe cant do squat to MJJ either yet energy blast can disintagrate him WTF? huh (he regenerates but the blast still pwned him)

What?

SoulDevourer
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
What? http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4563/mjj38cn6.jpg


MJJ can resist universe nulification but he can be disintegrate by a gun?? confused

Enyalus
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4563/mjj38cn6.jpg


MJJ can resist universe nulification but he can be disintegrate by a gun?? confused
MJJ never resisted universal nullification. smile

SoulDevourer
Originally posted by Enyalus
MJJ never resisted universal nullification. smile no but Merlin said MJJ616 can (on panel he says it)

Survivor19
238 MJJ was killed by universal nullification...

SoulDevourer
i ment MJJ616

Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4563/mjj38cn6.jpg


MJJ can resist universe nulification but he can be disintegrate by a gun?? confused

Your argument would carry weight if that blast from the Fury actually killed Jaspers.

SoulDevourer
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Your argument would carry weight if that blast from the Fury actually killed Jaspers. like i say MJJ regenerate but the canon still pwned him @ first (why didnt the blast just bounce of him or something if hes so durable?)

Knowsbleed33
facepalm

Galan007
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
If destroying a universe can't kill the Fury, I don't know what CoIE AM can do since that's about all he did. fury showed the ability to withstand a single universe-busting attack. nothing points to it being able to withstand 2, 3, 4, 5, g_infinity universe-busting attacks, all in sequence. as i've said before, as powerful as fury was, it's energy stores were not infinite.

Knowsbleed33
That's great. We still can't assume CoIE AM can beat him.

Galan007
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
That's great. We still can't assume CoIE AM can beat him. nor can we assume fury could withstand the aforementioned damage.

leonidas
Originally posted by Galan007
nor can we assume fury could withstand the aforementioned damage.

i don't see fury taking coie AM. nuh-uh.

Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by Galan007
nor can we assume fury could withstand the aforementioned damage.

Sure we can since he already survived one. There was nothing to suggest that was his limit.

Enyalus
I don't think tanking several anti-matter waves would be an issue. But I can't see Fury putting out enough power to do serious damage to COIE AM. So regardless of the Fury's virtual invulnerability, he's going down eventually.

In my opinion.

Mr Master
Fury disintegrated everything it blasted,
and it only took one blast.

The only powers to withstand Fury's blast were Matrix/Marlyn and Jaspers.

Matrix/Merlyn got his hands scorched though.

And "GOD" (616 Jaspers) was defeated.

Enyalus
Yeah, the Merlyn thing was a real nice feat, considering that it was by proxy and not even actually there.

AM tanked Spectre's 'creation destroying' blast, though, without dying. I'm not seeing Fury pump out that kind of power.

So I say, current/most recent versions of characters and Fury clears this gauntlet. If it's COIE AM, I don't see him getting past.

outavodka
Originally posted by leonidas
i don't see fury taking coie AM. nuh-uh. been away from comics for along time on manga hiatus whos goin up wit fury now???

Galan007
Originally posted by Enyalus
So I say, current/most recent versions of characters and Fury clears this gauntlet. If it's COIE AM, I don't see him getting past. thumb up

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