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Ok, here's the deal. You get to pic either a GL Ring or the powers of current Superman. This would be you, Joe blow with either the powers of Superman or the Ring. What would you choose ?

The GL ring. You could always give yourself Supermans powers as an after thought

GL ring. It's more fun (Though Super Speed would be cool.)

Originally posted by King Kandy
GL ring. It's more fun (Though Super Speed would be cool.)
Ring gives you super speed.

At Superman's level?

No one here could master a ring good enough to actually be better than supermans powers,supes all the way.

Call me old fashion, but I'll take Superman's powers... And this coming from a person who likes Gl's, more than Superman..

Originally posted by King Kandy
At Superman's level?
Far past it.

Originally posted by Mr.Biscuits
Far past it.
Umm...what?nearly everytime gls and supes go head to head he beats and or stomps them....iv never seen anything to actually prove they are faster than supes.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Umm...what?nearly everytime gls and supes go head to head he beats and or stomps them....iv never seen anything to actually prove they are faster than supes.
Half your post was irrelevant.

Gl's have willed themselves to match The Flash's speed, with little effort at that.
Matching Superman's shouldn't be a problem.

Superman = A million powers that don't run out.

Superman powers.
the ring thing is lame and people could just take it off you (if they're strong enough).

imo:
ring = willpower, frail/short-lived.
superman powers = for 'life'.

Can GL rings warp reality like a Franklin Richards.

Hal only stretched a nanosecond once and it was the ring doing it, not the wearer.

Yo.

GL Ring ftw; for every negative that those who picked Supes' powers can come up with, theres atleast 5 positives.

and speaking of said:

Originally posted by janus77
the ring thing is lame and people could just take it off you (if they're strong enough).

Lobo is approximate w/Superman in STR, and *he* couldnt do it mainly cuz the Ring wouldnt let him.

the only way a GL-Ring comes off the users finger is if they take it off, or they havent willed it to stay on.

Originally posted by janus77
imo:
ring = willpower, frail/short-lived.
superman powers = for 'life'.

so, U dont think Supermans powers can run out?? wow......I guess he must not get his powers from the sun anymore.






Tazer

no sun = no life .

GL's do get beat down by strength, so I would be surprised if someone couldn't just take it off them... also TK/matter manipulation might work, if done by someone with a lot of power.

Lobo's not a good example imo, he's still basically a gag character.

Yo.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Can GL rings warp reality like a Franklin Richards.

Hal only stretched a nanosecond once and it was the ring doing it, not the wearer.

Guy Gardner twisted time & space to bring the Shark back from the brink of death......that it occured MONTHS after the Shark had been killed via atomization I why I mention it.

Ch'p reversed a reality shift that was occuring in the universe (this was right after CoIE) to prevent a person from being eliminated.

Tom Kalmaku rebuilt Oa (cities and building and *everything*) years after Kyle had blown it up.

also, we know that it *is possible* to tap into the GE to manipulate it for yur own purposes, so the things the Ring has done a being *might* also be able to accomplish.




Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by janus77
no sun = no life .

incorrect. all he would lose is his energy-powers and retun to kryptonian (he'd need to eat tho).

Originally posted by janus77
GL's do get beat down by strength, so I would be surprised if someone couldn't just take it off them... also TK/matter manipulation might work, if done by someone with a lot of power.

Supes gets beat down by STR, so thats nothing different. and if the Ring could resist Lobo-lvl STR, wat makes ya think TK would be more successful in the same attempt??

now, matter-manip is a diff story, but GLs have a *better chance* of resisting, and REVERSING, said attempts than Supes does.

Originally posted by janus77
Lobo's not a good example imo, he's still basically a gag character.

well, thats yur opinion. however look at how their fights go, and he generally hits as good as he *gets hit*, so I wouldnt sneeze at his STR.




Tazer

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Originally posted by vlaaad12345
No one here could master a ring good enough to actually be better than supermans powers,supes all the way.

and by that same token U dont think U'll be crushing friends & family members by accident??

I betcha I could become a seasoned pro w/my Ring b4 U can re-learn to feed thyself.






Tazer

I don't think I have the willpower to use a ring

Joe Blow? Is that a porno or sumthin?

GL ring all the way.

I'd pick a Green Lantern ring. I could do anything Superman could do to the maximum meaningful degree in the real world. Meaning I wouldn't need the ability to move or burn an entire planet with no villains or crazy circumstances that happen in the comics.

Depending on how well the ring takes care of you, you're lifespan would probably approach 100 years and in that time whoever wants it can probably figure out immortality or at least extended life.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



incorrect. all he would lose is his energy-powers and retun to kryptonian (he'd need to eat tho).



Supes gets beat down by STR, so thats nothing different. and if the Ring could resist Lobo-lvl STR, wat makes ya think TK would be more successful in the same attempt??

now, matter-manip is a diff story, but GLs have a *better chance* of resisting, and REVERSING, said attempts than Supes does.



well, thats yur opinion. however look at how their fights go, and he generally hits as good as he *gets hit*, so I wouldnt sneeze at his STR.




Tazer
1) I meant no sun (in real life), no life at all on Earth, thus supporting my initial statement regarding the duration of Superman powers.

2) I meant Lobo was a gag-character, does weird-ass crazy things normally... so I don't really know if he's all that good a benchmark. it may just have been funnier to see him try and fail, making for a shorter compact story, rather than him getting the ring and starting off some other adventure ...

I guess it depends I don't know the actual limits of the green lantern's power,

Can he will something ala his lantern/battery to power-up the ring indefinitely?

Something to give him immortality/agelessness?

Something to amp his powers-up to unlimited lvls?(Say a helmet that made them the smartest in the universe, and some super lab to alter himself with nanotech, mystic arts tech, etc)


IF he can do any of that I take gl. If not I take superman since he can potentially be ageless/immortal and constantly increase his powers(according to the one million comics)

Originally posted by Mr.Biscuits
Half your post was irrelevant.

Gl's have willed themselves to match The Flash's speed, with little effort at that.
Matching Superman's shouldn't be a problem.
None of my post was irrelevant,superman has flown faster then any recent flash feats I can remember,and for being such badasses its funny that nearly everytime superman and gls go head to head he wins,if anyone on this forum thinks they have enough willpower to match supermans powers they are on drugs.

Yo.

Originally posted by janus77
1) I meant no sun (in real life), no life at all on Earth, thus supporting my initial statement regarding the duration of Superman powers.

which didnt answer the question asked, but watever....

Originally posted by janus77
2) I meant Lobo was a gag-character, does weird-ass crazy things normally... so I don't really know if he's all that good a benchmark. it may just have been funnier to see him try and fail, making for a shorter compact story, rather than him getting the ring and starting off some other adventure ...

Ud have a point....except Lobo *isnt* a gag character. and trying to dismiss anything involving him based on that alone doesnt really help yur argument.




Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
its funny that nearly everytime superman and gls go head to head he wins,if anyone on this forum thinks they have enough willpower to match supermans powers they are on drugs.

1) actually, most recent match-ups aside (last 2 that I know of the GL WON) overall they pretty much pull even. Supes represents a huge offensive force, but the GL represents huge capacity for an equal response.

2) that would be yur own opinion, since U have no idea wat any1 else in the forum is capable of; if ya dont think *U* can use a Ring, then thats yur own short-coming. no offense intended there.




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



1) actually, most recent match-ups aside (last 2 that I know of the GL WON) overall they pretty much pull even. Supes represents a huge offensive force, but the GL represents huge capacity for an equal response.

2) that would be yur own opinion, since U have no idea wat any1 else in the forum is capable of; if ya dont think *U* can use a Ring, then thats yur own short-coming. no offense intended there.




Tazer
O please do you really think you or anyone else here could actually use it to match supes powers?if you answer yes your lying,it takes more then willpower(which no one in existence actually has comic level willpower)to operate a ring,and what recent showings?last time I remember supes and gl fighting supes destroyed johns constructs like they were paper.

Originally posted by Tazer
Ud have a point....except Lobo *isnt* a gag character. and trying to dismiss anything involving him based on that alone doesnt really help yur argument.

Lobo is a gag character. Have you read some of his stuff?

It doesn't invalidate his feats of course but it's hard to believe that Lobo was ever meant to be taken seriously.

Yo.

Originally posted by En Sabah Nur X
I guess it depends I don't know the actual limits of the green lantern's power,

Can he will something ala his lantern/battery to power-up the ring indefinitely?

Something to give him immortality/agelessness?

Something to amp his powers-up to unlimited lvls?(Say a helmet that made them the smartest in the universe, and some super lab to alter himself with nanotech, mystic arts tech, etc)


IF he can do any of that I take gl. If not I take superman since he can potentially be ageless/immortal and constantly increase his powers(according to the one million comics)

to answer all of that: yes, a GL=Ring is capable of doing so. the Rings have shown (numerous times) the easily-done capability to re-write a persons physiology, even altering genetic code, so if U have just a bit of knowledge about DNA U *could* re-work it into something MORE than human.

so in short, its like a few posters have said: U could make yurself into Superman (if U so wished) , and still have the Ring.




Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
O please do you really think you or anyone else here could actually use it to match supes powers?if you answer yes your lying,it takes more then willpower(which no one in existence actually has comic level willpower)to operate a ring,and what recent showings?last time I remember supes and gl fighting supes destroyed johns constructs like they were paper.

1) again, U have NO IDEA wat any1 here is capable of so yur OPINION here holds as much water as my saying yur face looks like a warm turd on toast. as I have NO idea wat U look like, how can it be accurate??

THATS how strong yur comment is.

2) well, the most recent John/Supes matchup I remember had John take down ALL of the JLA (in GL:Rebirth ), but the LAST matchup I can think of was Supes/Kilowog in S/B .....and Kilo won that too as I recall.




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



1) again, U have NO IDEA wat any1 here is capable of so yur OPINION here holds as much water as my saying yur face looks like a warm turd on toast. as I have NO idea wat U look like, how can it be accurate??

THATS how strong yur comment is.

2) well, the most recent John/Supes matchup I remember had John take down ALL of the JLA (in GL:Rebirth ), but the LAST matchup I can think of was Supes/Kilowog in S/B .....and Kilo won that too as I recall.




Tazer I can comment on what other people can do because no one has comic level willpower,you arguing this is ****ing ridiculous do you honestly believe you have the comic level willpower to do what a gl can?anyone who says yes is lying there is no other answer im sorry your full of crap if you think otherwise,even people with lots of willpower in comics cant just go weilding gl rings so what makes you think you can?

Yo.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Lobo is a gag character. Have you read some of his stuff?

It doesn't invalidate his feats of course but it's hard to believe that Lobo was ever meant to be taken seriously.

1) he didnt seem like a gag character in 52 or B&tB, which were most recent showing I know of him having.

2) have U ever read any of his EARLY stuff?? from THOSE, I wouldnt take him as a gag character....but thats my opinion obviously.




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
1) he didnt seem like a gag character in 52 or B&tB, which were most recent showing I know of him having.

In 52 he was the religious leader of a group of space dolphins and negotiated by tearing Starfire's top off.

I think we may simply have different definitions of what being a gag character is.

Originally posted by Tazer
2) have U ever read any of his EARLY stuff?? from THOSE, I wouldnt take him as a gag character....but thats my opinion obviously.

I'll admit I haven't read his early stuff.

Yo.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
I can comment on what other people can do because no one has comic level willpower,you arguing this is ****ing ridiculous do you honestly believe you have the comic level willpower to do what a gl can?anyone who says yes is lying there is no other answer im sorry your full of crap if you think otherwise,even people with lots of willpower in comics cant just go weilding gl rings so what makes you think you can?

I cant comment on wat other ppl MIGHT or MIGHT NOT be able to do since I dont know wat other ppl are capable of.

*U* might be capable of bending yur fingers back far enuff to touch yur watch, or even the wrist itself......but I have no idea since I DONT KNOW WAT YUR CAPABLE OF. and guess wat? same goes for U too.

also U dont need comic willpower to power the Ring, for if *tha* were the case then Ice would never have been capable of doing so, nor those 4 kids that John made Rings for, nor all of the passerby in the street that Jordan *sold* them to (of course, he had a good reason for doing so but they were just ordinary citizens.)




Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
In 52 he was the religious leader of a group of space dolphins and negotiated by tearing Starfire's top off.

I think we may simply have different definitions of what being a gag character is.

thats fair enuff, but U dont think peace can be achieved by big-breasted hot chicks that can bench a tank??

interesting......

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'll admit I haven't read his early stuff.

fair enuff.

I would take Kryptonian powers anyday of the week over this ring. I know the ring is impressive but it still runs out of juice and can stil be destroyed while being a Krpytonian you just have to avoid magic and red suns.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
I can comment on what other people can do because no one has comic level willpower,you arguing this is ****ing ridiculous do you honestly believe you have the comic level willpower to do what a gl can?anyone who says yes is lying there is no other answer im sorry your full of crap if you think otherwise,even people with lots of willpower in comics cant just go weilding gl rings so what makes you think you can?
How can you even tell? There's never any kind of reference points regarding the will required like how comic martial artists have punching through steel and dodging bullets and stuff. We know how strong steel is and how fast bullets move but will is intangible.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I would take Kryptonian powers anyday of the week over this ring. I know the ring is impressive but it still runs out of juice and can stil be destroyed while being a Krpytonian you just have to avoid magic and red suns.
And me, because I'm red sunning everyone who picked Superman in this thread when I get my GL ring.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
will is intangible

Until you use it to make a sledgehammer haermm

LOL @ nubs picking Superman powers.

GL ring ANY TIME> OMG. A GL Ring was able to beat A version of Amazo with EVERY SUPER POWER on earth. Superman gets beat up by the weaker versions of Amazo. A GL ring held a big Bang. Superman Can't hold a star. A GL Ring allows it's user to change thier dna, suck up planets worth of souls, etc. In reality, a well trained Person with a GL ring would embarrass someone well trained with Superman's powers.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I would take Kryptonian powers anyday of the week over this ring. I know the ring is impressive but it still runs out of juice and can stil be destroyed while being a Krpytonian you just have to avoid magic and red suns.

and ppl who can phase, and telepaths, and ppl who can drain energy......

OH WAIT, GLs CAN DO ALL OF THOSE!!!

I guess quanchi will have to watchout for GLs from now on.




Tazer

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Until you use it to make a sledgehammer haermm
Ha *rimshot*

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



and ppl who can phase, and telepaths, and ppl who can drain energy......

OH WAIT, GLs CAN DO ALL OF THOSE!!!

I guess quanchi will have to watchout for GLs from now on.




Tazer
Many people have tried all those against superman and guess how that turned out...

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



to answer all of that: yes, a GL=Ring is capable of doing so. the Rings have shown (numerous times) the easily-done capability to re-write a persons physiology, even altering genetic code, so if U have just a bit of knowledge about DNA U *could* re-work it into something MORE than human.

so in short, its like a few posters have said: U could make yurself into Superman (if U so wished) , and still have the Ring.




Tazer

The first one, a yes? How can that be? I mean I just said can they imagine something to keep the ring itself powered up indefinitely without the 24hr limit. If they can do that why don't they do it? Or have they actually done it?

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



and ppl who can phase, and telepaths, and ppl who can drain energy......

OH WAIT, GLs CAN DO ALL OF THOSE!!!

I guess quanchi will have to watchout for GLs from now on.




Tazer You know how many gl's I have seen oneshotted. Think about how many Kryptonians you have seen oneshotted.

Yo.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Many people have tried all those against superman and guess how that turned out...

let see: Supes never actually laid a finger on Byakko (who can phase) as I recall

Dominus, post-CoIE Brainiac, Maxima, Manchester Black, Jonn AND Tom Kalmaku w/GL-Ring have all used tp to work Supes over royally BIG TIME (and ftw too).

and do we need to talk about how Supes does against an nrg-drainer like Parasite??

so yea, a person w/Supes powerset would do very well to avoid pissing of a GL.




Tazer

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Originally posted by quanchi112
You know how many gl's I have seen oneshotted. Think about how many Kryptonians you have seen oneshotted.

all of the residents of the planet Krypton = 1 HUGE 1-shot.

FTW.






Tazer

Originally posted by quanchi112
You know how many gl's I have seen oneshotted. Think about how many Kryptonians you have seen oneshotted.

Billions . . .

Superman and Kara and PG have all been one shotted at one time or another as well.

Originally posted by Mr.Biscuits
Ring gives you super speed.
Originally posted by King Kandy
At Superman's level?
I wouldn't know, but this is impressive.


John Stewart was going to kill himself one time,
so he sent his GL Ring 20 light Years distance
to avoid the ring's auto protection:

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He can't quite go through with it ... and then MM walks in on him:

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MM talks some sense into Stewart:

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So Stewart calls the ring back, by simply uttering one word "Ring"

The Ring returns from 20 light years away in an instant:

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clap3

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Originally posted by En Sabah Nur X
The first one, a yes? How can that be? I mean I just said can they imagine something to keep the ring itself powered up indefinitely without the 24hr limit. If they can do that why don't they do it? Or have they actually done it?

ahhh, I see wat U wanted. to answer that it theoretically should be possible to unite yurself w/the Ring and the Battery (given that we have 3 examples of GLs who have absorbed LARGE amounts of nrg and seen how powerful *they became*), but on the flipside I can recall 1 time when Hal specifically tried to absorb the contents of his Lantern and had probs holding it all in. I honestly cant give a definitive answer here on that particular ponderance; too much of it is "possibility".

interesting thing here is: U can reshape both the Ring AND the Lantern into something thats far more portable...like say matching gauntlets. when ya run low on power U could clasp them together and *BOOM!!* instant recharge.

and yes, incase sum1 asks we've seen BOTH reshaped into other shapes & sizes.




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



all of the residents of the planet Krypton = 1 HUGE 1-shot.

FTW.






Tazer What a sad day that was. Anyways I still would rather have the powers of a Kryptonian than be given a ring.

Id take a dip in a yellow sun also and then come for you with your ring. Id win.

The problem with the ring is that it doesn't have enough energy to last any meaningful time. So after the juice runs out then everyone who chose the ring will feel like a donkey and wished they chose Superman's power instead.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What a sad day that was. Anyways I still would rather have the powers of a Kryptonian than be given a ring.

Id take a dip in a yellow sun also and then come for you with your ring. Id win.

if U want kryptonian powers, thats fine.

but just so ya know Id be intangible AND be on the lookout for things w/high energy readings.

so after I mind-rape U, well......U'll be *anybodys* I told ya to.

I win.




Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by h1a8
The problem with the ring is that it doesn't have enough energy to last any meaningful time. So after the juice runs out then everyone who chose the ring will feel like a donkey and wished they chose Superman's power instead.

just how long is "any meaningful time"??




Tazer

Originally posted by h1a8
The problem with the ring is that it doesn't have enough energy to last any meaningful time. So after the juice runs out then everyone who chose the ring will feel like a donkey and wished they chose Superman's power instead.

Hal has charged the ring with ambient energy.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



just how long is "any meaningful time"??




Tazer

From about a few days to a month most likely (depending on how much fast you drain the ring's power).

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Hal has charged the ring with ambient energy.

Where can I find this?
Was it a plot device that cause Hal to do this?
Because throughout GLs history they need to recharge the ring with a battery.

Or you know....they could change their DNA giving them innate powers. Kyle gave himself telekinisis doing this. So you know, they could scan a Superman type character and turn into him.

Geez, you would think people would have some imagination with a ring that lets you do anything you can you know....imagine

Yo.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Or you know....they could change their DNA giving them innate powers. Kyle gave himself telekinisis doing this. So you know, they could scan a Superman type character and turn into him.

if yur referring to when Kyle was infiltrating the Black Circle, then thats incorrect; Kyle wore his Ring while incognito, however wat he managed to do is change his appearance (and I assume voice) and render his energy output another color so that it wasnt the obvious tell-tale green hue.




Tazer

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Originally posted by h1a8
From about a few days to a month most likely (depending on how much fast you drain the ring's power).

U realize that if cut off from the sun Supes energy would likely last *far less* than a GL-Rings 24 hour charge right??




Tazer

I'd prefer Superman powers only because a GL ring would be hard ass hell to get to work.

Current Ion powers ftw, Superman+ GL on steroids

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



if yur referring to when Kyle was infiltrating the Black Circle, then thats incorrect; Kyle wore his Ring while incognito, however wat he managed to do is change his appearance (and I assume voice) and render his energy output another color so that it wasnt the obvious tell-tale green hue.




Tazer


The green hue wasnt it. They could detect Oan energy, not only just see green light

Sidenote: That isnt Kyle btw. I mean it is, but Kyles actually using a illusion, he is the girl holding "kyle" while "kyle" is the girl. ALSO, Kyles ring gives him an unlimited charge, I think he was using Hals ring at the time??

Here's Amon Sur (Abin Sur's son) referring the cellular change.

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Here's the change itself

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Here's the power.

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More GL scans so you people can know what they can actually do:

Baboom:
http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenlanternv3135052wj.jpg

The story with Kyle's dark half given life through his own power ring. Since it's his power ring the energy comes, all these feats can be duplicated by Kyle.

Dark Kyle (Oblivion) Vs the JLA. Superman also tells Kyle he's the fastest person they have.
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Kyle creates a faux GLC. How this is done is explained later but just like Oblivion, all of them are merely constructs created by Kyle. All of them have a power ring and one of them (Green Lightning, Ali Rayner-West) can also tap the Speed Force. All of them are sentient and can act freely without Kyle's direction.
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Oblivion's explanation
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Creation of the faux Corps explained
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Oblivion creates a quasar threatening to collapse the universe
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Proof that Oblivion is dependent on Kyle in case anyone asks.
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-Stealing speed and quick healing
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-Increased perception
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-Speed lending
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-Clearing poisons from the body
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-Kyle's Manhunter construct resists transmutation, proving it to be alive
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-Forgot to mention this. One of the guys Kyle created was a Daxamite.
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-Here he displays heat vison
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-More heat vision
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Random stuff
-Kyle makes a prison for the CSA and holds them for over a day. Ultraman (evil Superman) tries for hours to break it and fails. Kyle kept this up while attending to other business on Earth. Not even their version of Green Lantern could break it.
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-Kyle Vs Amazo 2000. The version of the Amazo had the powers of nearly every superhero on Earth. The JSA, JLA, Marvel family, Strange Visitor, Firestorm, etc.
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Originally posted by Blair Wind
The green hue wasnt it. They could detect Oan energy, not only just see green light

1) I dont remember anything in that story where Amon or his chick says they could detect Oan-nrg, but if U have it plz share the scan if U would so kind?

2)if they could detect Oan energy, then Y didnt they catch him when he was on approach to that station??

3) also note: he wore his Ring the entire time.




Tazer

I'd pick a GL ring.

Originally posted by Tazer
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1) I dont remember anything in that story where Amon or his chick says they could detect Oan-nrg, but if U have it plz share the scan if U would so kind?

2)if they could detect Oan energy, then Y didnt they catch him when he was on approach to that station??

3) also note: he wore his Ring the entire time.
Tazer

So it seems it was an "unidentified energy spike"

Still, he didnt create any constructs (the staple for all GL's), and the complete cellular change should be prove that he CAN do it, even if he didnt. I still think it was telekinisis though

To be honest a GL ring is tantamount to having, in essence, every single power one can think of apart from magic (and if you take one description of magic as being that which cannot be explained by science, then even that is somewhat covered). A GL ring is EASILY a better choice than Kryptonian powers. For that matter, you can use a GL ring to either a) replicate Kryptonian powers (e.g. speed, heat and cold projection, strength, flight, super-sensitivity etc), or b) GIVE yourself actual Kryptonian powers by simply telling the ring to do so.

There is a reason the GL ring is said to be the most potent weapon in the universe (it is just that most writers, just like the folk who write for Thor and make Mjolnir into a simple tool when it has powers beyond belief, usually write/draw GLs as simply shooting forth green-hued blasts and getting knocked for a loop by characters who shouldn't even be able to mess with a rookie GL. But i digress).

Suffice it to say, if a person can use the ring with sufficient efficacy, then a GL ring would be the better choice.

The ring would never be the better choice.
This is because you will feel like a sucker (jackass) when the ring runs out of juice after a week of use and you are wishing you chose the Superman powers instead (because you would still have them for the rest of your life if you did).

Day 1:
"Ring, let's find a source of energy that keeps you running forever."
"Use the sun, dude"
"'kay."

Originally posted by h1a8
The ring would never be the better choice.
This is because you will feel like a sucker (jackass) when the ring runs out of juice after a week of use and you are wishing you chose the Superman powers instead (because you would still have them for the rest of your life if you did).



How come you made a thread whereby one can get Superman's powers for life, but only gets a GL ring with a finite charge and no battery to power it back up? That smells like spite.

It would be like me asking if you would rather have the Batmobile (but it disappears after a day) or a Porsche 911 (that you can keep to your heart's content)?

If you wanted to make the thread 'weighted' then you should have said so in your first post (since you made the thread) that the ring would only come with enough charge for a week, after which it becomes gaudy green-colored jewelry, while Superman's powers will last for 'life.'

Although with that said, I would still choose the ring for the week. During that week I would make enough physiological at a genetic level (and other) changes that even when the ring runs out I still have more abilities than the average Kryptonian.

The ring is still the better choice.

1 day with the GL ring is worth more to me than a million years with Supermans often ridiculous and defnaltey useless powers in this world

why would i care about flying to some unkown planet and picking it up and throwing it, his powers seem to me so physical and boring, it would be pointless in this world

also, the effects of the ring, they do not disapear do they? if i enhanced myself, when the ring runs out, i just wouldnt be able to reverse it or enhance any more?

Has anyone ever used the ring to alter the ring itself?

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
So it seems it was an "unidentified energy spike"

Still, he didnt create any constructs (the staple for all GL's), and the complete cellular change should be prove that he CAN do it, even if he didnt. I still think it was telekinisis though

well, technically its not like GLs *have to* create any constructs; doing so is simply an easy way to get a job done.

and its not like I disagree w/ya in that it *should be* possible, but I just wanted ya to realize that trying to use that as proof would be a huge mistake.




Tazer

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Has anyone ever used the ring to alter the ring itself?

alter how?




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
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alter how?




Tazer

Like could someone just will the ring into having unlimited charge?

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Originally posted by Burning thought
also, the effects of the ring, they do not disapear do they? if i enhanced myself, when the ring runs out, i just wouldnt be able to reverse it or enhance any more?

while the constructs tended to not last, CHANGES made to matter, even pre-CoIE, were generally permanent.




Tazer

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Like could someone just will the ring into having unlimited charge?

I really cant say, as that would seriously alter how the Ring itself worked, and Im not aware of any story where a major change like that has occured; the only significant changes I can recall were the 2x the Oans made a Ring that was Yellow-proof.




Tazer

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Originally posted by h1a8
The ring would never be the better choice.
This is because you will feel like a sucker (jackass) when the ring runs out of juice after a week of use and you are wishing you chose the Superman powers instead (because you would still have them for the rest of your life if you did).

that being the case, ya know wat I would do??

Id place a permanent filter between Earth & the Sun so that any sunlight which hit the planet would be in the RED visible range, then Id do a telepathic planet-wide search for all those who think that Supes's powers >>>>> GL-Ring, and SCREW W/THEM until my charge ran out.....leaving me having to rely on my Super Soldier Serum-esque physique to *continue to* kick ass.

wow....it wont be a good time for somebody, I can tell ya that.




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
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if U want kryptonian powers, thats fine.

but just so ya know Id be intangible AND be on the lookout for things w/high energy readings.

so after I mind-rape U, well......U'll be *anybodys* I told ya to.

I win.




Tazer You make it sound so easy but I have seen far to many green lanterns go down far to easily. If they could all be this powerful there wouldnt be the need for 7200. Most as we know are cannon fodder. Imagine 7200 kryptonians now thats a police force. You would take your ringlike powers while I would be content with my Kryptonian powers.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
You make it sound so easy but I have seen far to many green lanterns go down far to easily. If they could all be this powerful there wouldnt be the need for 7200. Most as we know are cannon fodder. Imagine 7200 kryptonians now thats a police force. You would take your ringlike powers while I would be content with my Kryptonian powers.

yea.....if there were 7200 kryptonians they would suffer the same fate as any offensive force rallied against a strong opponent: they'd be cannon fodder.

thinking that would only apply to the GLC but not Krytonians is bias of the highest order.

and for the record the only reason theres 7200 of them is (in story) to show the various denizens of the universe that the Oans are back in business, not that the extra 3600 are *needed*.




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
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yea.....if there were 7200 kryptonians they would suffer the same fate as any offensive force rallied against a strong opponent: they'd be cannon fodder.

thinking that would only apply to the GLC but not Krytonians is bias of the highest order.

and for the record the only reason theres 7200 of them is (in story) to show the various denizens of the universe that the Oans are back in business, not that the extra 3600 are *needed*.




Tazer You do have a point here. If there were 7200 Kryptonians the would go down easier thats for sure. But there arent and on average a Kryptonian would kick the shit out of your average Green Lantern.

I think it's the intimidation and experience factor that makes a GL lose to a Kryptonian, not the power itself (similar to Surfer's "issues". The Power Cosmic isn't his weakness, his personality is). The capabilities of the ring far exceed the powers of a Kryptonian, Kryptonian powers are simply more easily accessible.

Personally, I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life walking around having to treat everything and everyone with kit gloves because I'm so strong I can kill someone or destroy something with an accidental over exertion of my strength, or go crazy from constantly being able to hear everything that's happening on Earth and beyond all at once and have to filter though all the noise.

GL Ring offers more options and far greater control, and you can program your ring via voice commands. I'd take the sophistication of the Ring anyday. It's just not for those who prefer simplicity.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
You do have a point here. If there were 7200 Kryptonians the would go down easier thats for sure. But there arent and on average a Kryptonian would kick the shit out of your average Green Lantern.

1st line right, 2nd line WRONG




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
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1st line right, 2nd line WRONG




Tazer How many green lanterns could lets say take Superman or Supergirl. Name them.

Do not forget as seen in Countdown Arena the possibilities of someone mastering a kryptonians powers.

A smart Ring bearer would just preprogram their ring to repel any hostile incoming energy or projectiles and create an Aquarian-esque null field around themself that saps kinesis when they become present. That's very easily achieved as well, it would just make for very boring stories (not that it would matter in real life).

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Originally posted by quanchi112
How many green lanterns could lets say take Superman or Supergirl. Name them.

1, via Red Sun Burst or making a K-rad AOE

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do not forget as seen in Countdown Arena the possibilities of someone mastering a kryptonians powers.

*pffft!* John Stewart SWALLOWED his Ring, just 1 mind ya, and it made him far more than a GL (and by GL Im talking more powerful than Hal; even the GotUs took notice).

or I could bring up Lord Malvolio......ftw




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
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1, via Red Sun Burst or making a K-rad AOE



*pffft!* John Stewart SWALLOWED his Ring, just 1 mind ya, and it made him far more than a GL (and by GL Im talking more powerful than Hal; even the GotUs took notice).

or I could bring up Lord Malvolio......ftw




Tazer Dont make me bring up Superman Prime who beat the shit out of the gl's precious Ion.

Superboy Prime isn't a typical Kryptonian though. He has special properties due to being a Pre Crisis Kryptonian from an alternate universe which survived the CoIE via entrapment in an alternate dimension, and then subsequently re-emerged into the present DC multiverse. He's not run of the mill. Unless we're including pre crisis feats as well.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Superboy Prime isn't a typical Kryptonian though. He has special properties due to being a Pre Crisis Kryptonian from an alternate universe which survived the CoIE via entrapment in an alternate dimension, and then subsequently re-emerged into the present DC multiverse. He's not run of the mill. Unless we're including pre crisis feats as well. Yeah I know he isnt run of the mill. But meh I prefer the power of a Kryptonian still. Love the idea of a sundip and the powers of a kryptonian.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Dont make me bring up Superman Prime who beat the shit out of the gl's precious Ion.



SMP beat the shit outta Superman (and great MANY Supermen at that) too, so how does that hold any water??




Tazer

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Yeah I know he isnt run of the mill. But meh I prefer the power of a Kryptonian still. Love the idea of a sundip and the powers of a kryptonian.

hey, thats fine. when a Kryptonian sundips they get an increase in power.....and when a GL "dips" they become Parallax or Ion.

enjoy those Superman -pwrs.






Tazer

Originally posted by spetznaz
How come you made a thread whereby one can get Superman's powers for life, but only gets a GL ring with a finite charge and no battery to power it back up? That smells like spite.

It would be like me asking if you would rather have the Batmobile (but it disappears after a day) or a Porsche 911 (that you can keep to your heart's content)?

If you wanted to make the thread 'weighted' then you should have said so in your first post (since you made the thread) that the ring would only come with enough charge for a week, after which it becomes gaudy green-colored jewelry, while Superman's powers will last for 'life.'

Although with that said, I would still choose the ring for the week. During that week I would make enough physiological at a genetic level (and other) changes that even when the ring runs out I still have more abilities than the average Kryptonian.

The ring is still the better choice.

I didn't make this thread. Everyone knows the ring runs out of juice.
The OP didn't give it infinite charge so we must assume the default standard GL ring. And the ring isn't a genie. You must know exactly how to alter your genetics to gain benefit. And since we are all morons when dealing with genetics then trying to grant ourselves super powers with the ring would be like trying to find a needle in a countrysized haystack in 1 week (and the needle might not exist too). GL's can do these type of things because they can analyze Superman's or anyone elses genetic code in order to duplicate it. But they certainly can't do it without a basis to analyze.

With Superman's powers if you were to hybernate in the Sun for a certain amount of time then you will be truly immortal, astronomically more powerful, and your weaknesses would be gone forever (kryptonite, magic, red sun radiation, etc.)
Superman's powers is the better choice.

I'd assume that with a ring you would get the lantern. Me I'd transform it into a small easy to carry item or like i saw once in the cartoon I'd keep it in another dimension and I would be able to call from anywhere.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You know how many gl's I have seen oneshotted. Think about how many Kryptonians you have seen oneshotted. Lets see how many are there currently? Like 4? and don't they all have the superman shield? thats why.

Originally posted by Tazer
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SMP beat the shit outta Superman (and great MANY Supermen at that) too, so how does that hold any water??




Tazer The Supermen beat him while the green lanterns well they died easily.

I loved when he beat down a Daxamite as Ion. Truly fun stuff.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
I'd assume that with a ring you would get the lantern. Me I'd transform it into a small easy to carry item or like i saw once in the cartoon I'd keep it in another dimension and I would be able to call from anywhere.
The OP must state the circumstances better. If he decides to include a Lantern then even the lantern runs out right? Whereas one would be truly immortal with Superman's powers.

Originally posted by Tazer
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hey, thats fine. when a Kryptonian sundips they get an increase in power.....and when a GL "dips" they become Parallax or Ion.

enjoy those Superman -pwrs.






Tazer Parallax and Ion didnt become who they are by their rings alone. They didnt seem that impressive at all in Sinestro Corps.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
Lets see how many are there currently? Like 4? and don't they all have the superman shield? thats why. Point is on average a gl isnt that impressive. Kryptonians on average are beasts.

Originally posted by h1a8
The OP must state the circumstances better. If he decides to include a Lantern then even the lantern runs out right? Whereas one would be truly immortal with Superman's powers. A lantern doesn't run out. ever...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Point is on average a gl isnt that impressive. Kryptonians on average are beasts. If you are talking earth lanterns then on average yes they are beasts. And they're all that really matter arent they?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Supermen beat him while the green lanterns well they died easily.

I loved when he beat down a Daxamite as Ion. Truly fun stuff. ummm...he was owning both Supes and Powergirl in the GL 25. and they had to weaken him before they could do a thing to him...way to leave out important details. and SMP only beat Ion by shoving him up with lead rods. thats like injecting Supes with a bunch of kryptonite and then fighting him. Seriously you don't know what the heck you are talking about.

The Ring follows voice commands. It's also a super computer connected to the Lantern Corps Central Database, it's not just a weapon. You could have the ring do the work for you. All you'd need to do is give the ring the following commands:

1) Search for a suitable power source that will keep you charged and replenish your reserves.
2) Search for a device suitable of siphoning the energy from source found in command #1 and transmitting the energy to your power supply.
3) Copy design details of device and create a construct of the device found in command #2 which will perpetually funnel the energies to your reserves.
4) Shield me from any harmful radiation caused by energy syphon process.

Once that's complete this so called weakness is eliminated. It simply requires for the ring bearer to be creative and intelligent. It's not for everyone.

The Superman powers are a lot easier to use, but used properly the Ring simply trumps being a Kryptonian. Particularly when you can have the ring scan your genetics and then give the command:

1) Search a 30 light year radius for a being with superhuman physical capabilities. Upon finding said being, scan it's genetic make-up and map it's DNA, then store the template for future use.

And given the scan that the GL ring can travel light years in moments you could have remap your body in under an hour assuming the ring found a template. You could also have the ring do something like analyze a creature which has the ability to regenerate (like a salamander), map it's genetics, and then incorporate the regenerative properties into your own letting the ring do all the work.

Hell, you could use the ring to make yourself into Animal Man.

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Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't make this thread. Everyone knows the ring runs out of juice.
The OP didn't give it infinite charge so we must assume the default standard GL ring. And the ring isn't a genie. You must know exactly how to alter your genetics to gain benefit. And since we are all morons when dealing with genetics then trying to grant ourselves super powers with the ring would be like trying to find a needle in a countrysized haystack in 1 week (and the needle might not exist too).

thats actually not true at all : John was able to correct a flaw in an antidote simply by using the Ring, Kyle was able to totally re-make his own body down to the cellular level (as was shared previously), and Hal turned his friend Tom into a *bird*.....just by using the Ring. hell, that last was done w/o the AI at that.

and speaking of that AI, given the immense size of its database, those werent really too difficult of a feat (or feats) to accomplish, BUT no advanced knowledge of genetics were required in any of them.

Originally posted by h1a8
GL's can do these type of things because they can analyze Superman's or anyone elses genetic code in order to duplicate it. But they certainly can't do it without a basis to analyze.

actually, they could simply manipulate human DNA to acquire them, much in the same way Luthor created Kon-El.

Originally posted by h1a8
With Superman's powers if you were to hybernate in the Sun for a certain amount of time then you will be truly immortal, astronomically more powerful, and your weaknesses would be gone forever (kryptonite, magic, red sun radiation, etc.)
Superman's powers is the better choice.

yea, making yur self young AND fit is something that we know that has been done by atleast 2 GLs, so if anything Supes is only playing catch-up on that matter.




Tazer

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Originally posted by quanchi112
The Supermen beat him while the green lanterns well they died easily.

I loved when he beat down a Daxamite as Ion. Truly fun stuff.

the Superman only did so w/the GLs help if U recall, and 1 of the Supermen help was ALSO a pre-CoIE Kryptonian.

so again, yur argument *still* doesnt work.




Tazer

Originally posted by quanchi112
Parallax and Ion didnt become who they are by their rings alone. They didnt seem that impressive at all in Sinestro Corps.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Parallax and Ion didnt become who they are by their rings alone. They didnt seem that impressive at all in Sinestro Corps.

actually, Ion *did* only have 1 Ring then, and Parallax didnt have ANY.




Tazer

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Point is on average a gl isnt that impressive. Kryptonians on average are beasts.

thats due to having a HUGE physical edge, which nobody here is trying to refute, however theres a difference between STRENGTH and POWER.....and GLs have the latter locked up in spades.




Tazer

Originally posted by h1a8
With Superman's powers if you were to hybernate in the Sun for a certain amount of time then you will be truly immortal, astronomically more powerful, and your weaknesses would be gone forever (kryptonite, magic, red sun radiation, etc.)
Superman's powers is the better choice.

You are aware that Kal-El hibernated in the Sun for 100+ centuries to become the Golden Prime version, right? Who would really want to sleep in the sun for 15,000 years? And there was no proof that Supes at that point was beyond being owned by a high end energy manipulator that could make his solar power toxic to him.

gl is only limited by imagination... so its better than the power of superman, but i'd argue that there arent many better than either of these two, as they are both seen as gods in respect to their power

Yo.

Originally posted by Tazer
actually, Ion *did* only have 1 Ring then, and Parallax didnt have ANY.

oh, and I forgot: John Stewart beoming like unto a Guardian himself by swallowing his Ring.

to repeat: thats ONE Ring that did that.




Tazer

Originally posted by MattDay
gl is only limited by imagination... so its better than the power of superman, but i'd argue that there arent many better than either of these two, as they are both seen as gods in respect to their power

Television ruined my imagination

Superman powers ftw

Master Builder.

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Originally posted by superkronick92
Television ruined my imagination

Superman powers ftw

thats sad, but I respect the honesty......




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



actually, Ion *did* only have 1 Ring then, and Parallax didnt have ANY.




Tazer But arent they entities themselves thus making them Parallax or Ion. So with one ring no one is becoming Ion or Parallax on their own.

Originally posted by Tazer
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the Superman only did so w/the GLs help if U recall, and 1 of the Supermen help was ALSO a pre-CoIE Kryptonian.

so again, yur argument *still* doesnt work.




Tazer I am saying that the Kryptonians had to stop a precrisis kryptonian. You know dc holds kryptonians in higher regard than green lanterns.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



oh, and I forgot: John Stewart beoming like unto a Guardian himself by swallowing his Ring.

to repeat: thats ONE Ring that did that.




Tazer

Where did that happen?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Where did that happen?
The Mosaic series.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
But arent they entities themselves thus making them Parallax or Ion. So with one ring no one is becoming Ion or Parallax on their own.

the 1st Ion was entity-less, and Parallax (despite the retcon) was as powerful as he was due to having drained the CPB w/o a Ring.




Tazer

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Originally posted by quanchi112
I am saying that the Kryptonians had to stop a precrisis kryptonian. You know dc holds kryptonians in higher regard than green lanterns.

yea, it took 1 pre-CoIE Kryptonian to stop another.

that DC holds the worlds 1st superhero (and the source for a large part of the companys income thru various means) in higher regard than another lesser known property is pretty much a GIVEN.




Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Where did that happen?

GL: Mosaic




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



yea, it took 1 pre-CoIE Kryptonian to stop another.

that DC holds the worlds 1st superhero (and the source for a large part of the companys income thru various means) in higher regard than another lesser known property is pretty much a GIVEN.




Tazer Regardless, I feel that having the powers inherently in you is better than needing a ring. Im telling you if i took a sundip and I came looking for your green lantern ass you better be hiding.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Regardless, I feel that having the powers inherently in you is better than needing a ring. Im telling you if i took a sundip and I came looking for your green lantern ass you better be hiding.

hey, I can respect that; difference R wat makes the world go 'round right?

and just so's ya know when I get GL-Ring I wont even think or worry about U, and while yur thrashing about trying to hit little ol' intangible me I'll just be changing yur memories around to U turn into an Elton John boy-toy.

have fun w/that pwr-set.




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
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hey, I can respect that; difference R wat makes the world go 'round right?

and just so's ya know when I get GL-Ring I wont even think or worry about U, and while yur thrashing about trying to hit little ol' intangible me I'll just be changing yur memories around to U turn into an Elton John boy-toy.

have fun w/that pwr-set.




Tazer Why didnt that work on Superman Prime?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why didnt that work on Superman Prime?

Because it wasn't attempted.

On a different note, what about Current Ion powers vs Superman Prime(Pre-Power-up) powers, should I make this a thread?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Because it wasn't attempted. Probably becuz it wouldnt work as easily as tazer made it sound.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Probably becuz it wouldnt work as easily as tazer made it sound.

give a reason, or even REASONS Y it wouldnt.

and isnt it funny how U seem to think a sundip is like an ultimate trump card to play, but when U get faced with a legitimate obstacle that DOESNT play to yur strengths....it wouldnt work somehow??

man, ya just hafta laff.




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
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give a reason, or even REASONS Y it wouldnt.

and isnt it funny how U seem to think a sundip is like an ultimate trump card to play, but when U get faced with a legitimate obstacle that DOESNT play to yur strengths....it wouldnt work somehow??

man, ya just hafta laff.




Tazer Why not say stop time then huh...You take something that prolly happened once while sundips and sunamps are more common. I wonder why more green lanterns dont do this. They seem to die so easily. Poor lanterns.

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Originally posted by superkronick92
On a different note, what about Current Ion powers vs Superman Prime(Pre-Power-up) powers, should I make this a thread?

if any1 had thought about it 2 GL couldve accomplished the same job they used Rao for, but since they needed Supes #1 dead.....watever.




Tazer

Oh, I would take SMP's powers over Ion's anyday.

Actually, I don't think they used the Red Sun to depower Prime, they used it to destroy his Armor which was powering him. Red Sun doesn't effect a non-armored Prime.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Why not say stop time then huh...You take something that prolly happened once while sundips and sunamps are more common. I wonder why more green lanterns dont do this. They seem to die so easily. Poor lanterns.

how many times has Supes sundipped?? something like....3?

how many times has Hal phased thru matter?? MANY.

how many times has he messed w/other peoples minds?? MANY.




Tazer

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Originally posted by superkronick92
Actually, I don't think they used the Red Sun to depower Prime, they used it to destroy his Armor which was powering him. Red Sun doesn't effect a non-armored Prime.

wrong. they used the sun to burn off AND depower him.




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
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how many times has Supes sundipped?? something like....3?

how many times has Hal phased thru matter?? MANY.

how many times has he messed w/other peoples minds?? MANY.




Tazer Im just shocked he didnt mess with Primes while he was killing his friends.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Im just shocked he didnt mess with Primes while he was killing his friends.

Im not. they needed Supes to put his affairs in order




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
All your power is in the ring and the ring is something that can be taken away but Kryptonian powers are forever.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why didnt that work on Superman Prime?

Because PC means you get to ignore logic, powersets and anything that works against you. It's almost an "I win" card in some cases.

Against a standard kryptonian? A skilled ring user on par with Hal, Kyle or Wog would win almost everytime.

And don't bring up the 'it only happened once' angle. We use all kinds of feats that only happened once. From DS, Thanos, Surfer, Supes, to Wolverine, Spiderman, Batman and Deathstroke.

The Sundip would be very hard to get around, I agree. But at the absolute height of feats and powers, the ring can still take a majority.


Besides, if you get PC kryptonians, we get PC Green Lanterns.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
All your power is in the ring and the ring is something that can be taken away but Kryptonian powers are forever.

same can be said for U: GOLD K-rads any1??






Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
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wrong. they used the sun to burn off AND depower him.




Tazer

Prime is immune to Red Sun Radiation
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_21.jpg

At the time, the armor was powering him, therefor, once the armor was destroyed and they were under a red sun, he got no more power.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



same can be said for U: GOLD K-rads any1??






Tazer Thats much more rare than taking a ring from someone.

Yo.

Originally posted by superkronick92
Prime is immune to Red Sun Radiation
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_21.jpg

At the time, the armor was powering him, therefor, once the armor was destroyed and they were under a red sun, he got no more power.

1) that was SUPERMAN who was unaffectd, not the young'un.

2) when SBP got kidnapped by the Flashes, he was kept under a RED SUN IIRC.....

3) when he broke free, the other 2 S-men took him thru a k-rock field which did jack to him, but then thru a RED SUN which destroyed his armor

4) on Oa he was kept in close proximity to a RED SUN, since Oa's star is YELLOW. wanna guess wat DIDNT happen?




Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thats much more rare than taking a ring from someone.

and sundips are more rare than taking away a Ring.

and besides, it wouldnt even matter: U know that GL can command their Ring from a distance right??

and guess wat? thats NOT rare.

so when U come rocketing to Earth trying to get at me, I'll just toss U my Ring cuz I know thats wat ya want, and when yur flying off afterward U just get a quick hit of Gold-K and fall to yur death.

then I just will it back onto my finger and go about my my business.






Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
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1) that was SUPERMAN who was unaffectd, not the young'un.

2) when SBP got kidnapped by the Flashes, he was kept under a RED SUN IIRC.....

3) when he broke free, the other 2 S-men took him thru a k-rock field which did jack to him, but then thru a RED SUN which destroyed his armor

4) on Oa he was kept in close proximity to a RED SUN, since Oa's star is YELLOW. wanna guess wat DIDNT happen?




Tazer

1. That is SBP, his first appearance actually

2. They dumped him in a place with a red sun so he couldn't recharge=cut off from his power source

3. Red Sun to Destroy the armor

4. Oa is under a Yellow sun?

Yo.

Originally posted by superkronick92
1. That is SBP, his first appearance actually

2. They dumped him in a place with a red sun so he couldn't recharge=cut off from his power source

3. Red Sun to Destroy the armor

4. Oa is under a Yellow sun?

1) ah dangit, I goofed; I stand correctd. Swans art makes it hard to differntiate sometimes.

2) they dumped him in a place w/a red sun cuz they knew he'd recharge off of an orange, yellow, or any higher color.

3) and to drain him; note it ****ed up Kal-L *also*

4) yep.




Tazer

green text is annoying

It's hard to explain, at that point in the fight, the armor was powering Prime, no yellow sun, so when his armor was destroyed, he lost his power because he was unable to charge under the red sun. When he fought Kal-l he they were both basically human. A teenager vs a Senior Citizen, then Kal-el beat him because, it was basically a teenager vs a 30 year old

Yo.

Originally posted by Inhuman
green text is annoying

dont read it




Tazer

sup

Originally posted by Tazer
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dont read it




Tazer

I dont





inhuman

Yo.

Originally posted by Inhuman
sup

I dont

inhuman

thats Y ya QUOTED me, right genius??




Tazer

Yo.
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



thats Y ya QUOTED me, right genius??




Tazer
That's probably exactly why.




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