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Who wins?

Ref stoppage in the first round. Captain Marvel wins.

Spite. You put a Skyfather against Sentry? What's with the hate?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Spite. You put a Skyfather against Sentry? What's with the hate? I think he's just clarifying that it's Billy, and not Mar-Vell.

Captain Marvel wins.

cap marvel ftw

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I think he's just clarifying that it's Billy, and not Mar-Vell.
Oh. I thought he meant the new CM/Shazam.

Well in that case Sentry should win.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Captain Marvel wins.

Sentry beats him

Just wondering who people think would win.

Well, there is no classic in DC. Wasnt PC CM uber?

Originally posted by The Nuul
Well, there is no classic in DC. Wasnt PC CM uber?

Sorry I should have said just before Captain Marvel became the Wizard Shazam.

CM

Captain Marvel

CM

Billy

Bob

Thornton

Captain Marvel for the win.

Agreed CM.

Sentry

Captain Crunch...

Sentry wins.

Captain Marvel regularly stalemates Superman and has durability nearly on par with big blue himself. Including tanking a tesseract bomb that turned him inside out.

Sentry doesn't have a prayer.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Captain Marvel regularly stalemates Superman and has durability nearly on par with big blue himself. Including tanking a tesseract bomb that turned him inside out.

Sentry doesn't have a prayer. Sentry is more powerful and I am sure Captain Marvel isn't stalemating an all out Superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry is more powerful and I am sure Captain Marvel isn't stalemating an all out Superman.
Well Sentry doesn't have a prayer against Superman or CM.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Well Sentry doesn't have a prayer against Superman or CM. Well, I won't ask you to prove it because I know you won't.

In the year 2009, why do people not realize that Sentry is no where near Supermans level at all
Captain Marvel has beaten Superman 4 times now

Cap stomps Sentrys ass into the ground and has him crying worse then Johnny Storm did

Johnny Storm had Bob crying?

Yeah he overheated him and Sentry ran off crying like a baby

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29885/827203-avengersinvaders008wp0_super.jpg

Sentry was depowered in New Avengers but he has never done anything to put himself on Superman or Captain Marvels level even as Classic Sentry

CM one shots Sentry

Meh wrong Human Torch fella

Originally posted by batosaimsx7
Yeah he overheated him and Sentry ran off crying like a baby

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29885/827203-avengersinvaders008wp0_super.jpg

Sentry was depowered in New Avengers but he has never done anything to put himself on Superman or Captain Marvels level even as Classic Sentry

CM one shots Sentry



What a punk.

Billy puts the beatdown on him.

It was Johnny Storm and he had Sentry crying like a baby

CM beats Sentry into a coma

I have the comic

Yeah, that's Jim Hammond, dude. The URL even says it's from Avengers/Invaders.

The "Flame On." was a joke/inside reference to Johnny, I'm guessing.

Still a human torch making Sentry cry like that lol

S

Yeah the better Human Torch

Anyway
Sentry gets mutilated in this fight

Yeah, I still think CM messes Sentry up.

CM FTW

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well, I won't ask you to prove it because I know you won't.
Oh, You mean you prove that Sentry>CM. Can I ask where you posted it?

CM.

Cap.

Even I can't even give Sentry wins anymore, his good feats are faaar behind him.

The reasons behind the decisions seem simple to me.

"I choose Sentry because I love Marvel more than DC and Marvel is greater than DC."

"I choose Captain Marvel, because he has better feats and has defeated or stalemated characters with better feats than him."

Guess which one I side with?

Captain Marvel.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Billy

Originally posted by tkitna
Bob

Originally posted by The Nuul
Thornton

I'm putting my money on CM

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
The reasons behind the decisions seem simple to me.

"I choose Sentry because I love Marvel more than DC and Marvel is greater than DC."

"I choose Captain Marvel, because he has better feats and has defeated or stalemated characters with better feats than him."

Guess which one I side with?

QFT

Originally posted by batosaimsx7
Anyway
Sentry gets mutilated in this fight How so?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
The reasons behind the decisions seem simple to me.

"I choose Sentry because I love Marvel more than DC and Marvel is greater than DC."

"I choose Captain Marvel, because he has better feats and has defeated or stalemated characters with better feats than him."

Guess which one I side with? indeed

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
The reasons behind the decisions seem simple to me.

"I choose Sentry because I love Marvel more than DC and Marvel is greater than DC."

"I choose Captain Marvel, because he has better feats and has defeated or stalemated characters with better feats than him."

Guess which one I side with?
That's how most fight are decided here.
Marvel?

I'd say KMC is one of the most objective forums. Fanboys can be anywhere but at least here there aren't so many

True. Try debating on the offical Marvel website. Hilarity ensues.

Yes, this forum is perhaps one of the best out there.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
That's how most fight are decided here.
Marvel?

Actually no. I enjoy Marvel more than DC, but the whole concept of SHAZAM, a Champion, an evil bad ass version ala Black Adam and everything like that. Captain Marvel is one of the reasons why I would read something DC. I'll admit that I made idiotic statements about DC before. I thought Darkseid was a failure before I came here tbh. I try to stay out of DC only debates hence my lack of knowledge on only defend Marvel characters when their pitted against each other only if I believe they have a shot at winning.

If Sentry was a great as he was hyped up to be when he first started then I may side with him, but lets face it he hasn't. He's beaten some B-listers, stalemated a few good ones and beat like two worthy opponents. Owning Morgan Lefay isn't that great when she has like no physical durability imo and she's still alive. Terrax isn't really written as a threat lately, the Blue Marvel fight was good, but doesn't put him over Superman or Marvel. He hasn't fought or beat Thor yet, so I wouldn't put him near Marvel on a feats perspective.

Uh...sorry for the long post...

Agreed, Wei Pheonix. I use to spout some stupid shit about DC until I started reading it. Even the most diehard Marvel fanboy's can find something good about DC, and Captain Marvel/SHAZAM! is one of them.

Sentry hasn't shown me anything remotely impressive enough to make me think he is = or > than Superman/Thor. And Paul Jenkins joke of a story where he shamlessly puts Sentry over everyone in the Marvel Universe is an example of "My guy is better than all your guys, so nah-nah-na-boo-boo!"

he didnt even get hurt by human torch lol

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Agreed, Wei Pheonix. I use to spout some stupid shit about DC until I started reading it. Even the most diehard Marvel fanboy's can find something good about DC, and Captain Marvel/SHAZAM! is one of them.

Sentry hasn't shown me anything remotely impressive enough to make me think he is = or > than Superman/Thor. And Paul Jenkins joke of a story where he shamlessly puts Sentry over everyone in the Marvel Universe is an example of "My guy is better than all your guys, so nah-nah-na-boo-boo!"

ahh to be honesty jenkins easy wrote the best sentry so far...he the only reason i like the character....if u dont read jenkins storys then the sentry is a poor excuse for a character to u

Marvel ftw, sentry diesn't stand a chance until he proves he's physically near superman's level , his only uber power is speed which is signifacantly greater than the speed of light ,however that is in space(earth to saturn in the next panel- pretty much instantaneous) and not in fights

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Actually no. I enjoy Marvel more than DC, but the whole concept of SHAZAM, a Champion, an evil bad ass version ala Black Adam and everything like that. Captain Marvel is one of the reasons why I would read something DC. I'll admit that I made idiotic statements about DC before. I thought Darkseid was a failure before I came here tbh. I try to stay out of DC only debates hence my lack of knowledge on only defend Marvel characters when their pitted against each other only if I believe they have a shot at winning.

If Sentry was a great as he was hyped up to be when he first started then I may side with him, but lets face it he hasn't. He's beaten some B-listers, stalemated a few good ones and beat like two worthy opponents. Owning Morgan Lefay isn't that great when she has like no physical durability imo and she's still alive. Terrax isn't really written as a threat lately, the Blue Marvel fight was good, but doesn't put him over Superman or Marvel. He hasn't fought or beat Thor yet, so I wouldn't put him near Marvel on a feats perspective.

Uh...sorry for the long post...
I am opposite with DC. I like DC because of GL(the story is the best). So I usually side with DC's character unless it's obvious who wins(like hulk vs green arrow).

When it comes to Sentry vs Cm. CM has better feats. His best are usually stalemating Superman. Sentry on the other hand is very....blah. power of the a billion suns my @$$.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Actually no. I enjoy Marvel more than DC, but the whole concept of SHAZAM, a Champion, an evil bad ass version ala Black Adam and everything like that. Captain Marvel is one of the reasons why I would read something DC. I'll admit that I made idiotic statements about DC before. I thought Darkseid was a failure before I came here tbh. I try to stay out of DC only debates hence my lack of knowledge on only defend Marvel characters when their pitted against each other only if I believe they have a shot at winning.

If Sentry was a great as he was hyped up to be when he first started then I may side with him, but lets face it he hasn't. He's beaten some B-listers, stalemated a few good ones and beat like two worthy opponents. Owning Morgan Lefay isn't that great when she has like no physical durability imo and she's still alive. Terrax isn't really written as a threat lately, the Blue Marvel fight was good, but doesn't put him over Superman or Marvel. He hasn't fought or beat Thor yet, so I wouldn't put him near Marvel on a feats perspective.

Uh...sorry for the long post...

agreed Sentry's ups and downs don't let him be on the top of the "food chain".

Just on his defense I would add his fight with the Collective, Doom and Gennis.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Agreed, Wei Pheonix. I use to spout some stupid shit about DC until I started reading it. Even the most diehard Marvel fanboy's can find something good about DC, and Captain Marvel/SHAZAM! is one of them.

Sentry hasn't shown me anything remotely impressive enough to make me think he is = or > than Superman/Thor. And Paul Jenkins joke of a story where he shamlessly puts Sentry over everyone in the Marvel Universe is an example of "My guy is better than all your guys, so nah-nah-na-boo-boo!"

I think its the childhood dream of being able to become a superhero. All I have to do is shout a name and I become a full grown superhero? That is an awesome concept to me. I've found a few more DC characters I like too like Sandman, Red Tornado, Carol Ferris I think? that violet corps chick. I used to like SBP until he constantly whined and cried about everything.

Favorite DC characters for me:
Hal Jordan
Wally West
Jonn Jonzz

Originally posted by Warlord
Favorite DC characters for me:
Hal Jordan
Wally West
Jonn Jonzz

Yeah I like Manhunter too. I almost forgot him. Isn't he like the only physically strong telepath in comic history outside of the obvious ones like Galactus and other entities?

I hate Jonn. I used to like him. Now it's
Hal
SMB( he still cool)
Superman
Citizen Steel

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Yeah I like Manhunter too. I almost forgot him. Isn't he like the only physically strong telepath in comic history outside of the obvious ones like Galactus and other entities?

Yeah, well you can add the Eternals on that list and maybe Sentry if they decide to write him in control of his powers

I think this fight would be a little bit more even if we say substituded captian marvel with say rhino.

Originally posted by zeel
I think this fight would be a little bit more even if we say substituded captian marvel with say rhino.

Um, who is this Sentry guy? Just kidding... Sentry may be powerful, and Marvels attempt to have their own Superman type... I would be sure Captain Marvel would win the fight. People make comparissons to Superman. But Cap has no weaknesses in his form. He had forces up there with the Wizard or higher that might temporarily transform him into Billy Batson, but could be compensated. People also say Cap couldn't hold up against a full on Superman... But people need to realize, in the comics, the combats had Billy trying to reason with an enhanced or pissed of Superman. Even held out against a boosted Superman when Cap and Eclipso Superman duked it out. If you ever had Cap getting pissed, much less angry, then Cap would focus and be a force that Sups couldn't withstand. the Stamina of Atlas, the Strength of Hercules..both of which have kicked his butt royally, and then add the power of Zeus-king of the gods, and the speed of Mercury, who outran the Flash when Mercury and Hermes were fighting in the streets in the War of the Gods Saga and when flash used his speed force, they looked at him and blew him away leaving him like he were standing still. If Cap blended his abilities, he would be 'all that, a bag of chips, a case of drinks and a ferrari too.' But Cap is more a diplomat/peacemaker, just as Wonder Woman is, as Captain America is, but, when it comes down to brass tacks, they step up to the plate and will not go down/stay down without being unconcious. and heaven help you when they come too, because, payback is a you-know-what! and they usually win that second round with out any doubts.

Didn't see this one, so here goes:

Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) vs. Sentry.

CM a lot

Merging with 2 existing threads.

Captain Marvel

Sentry has the potential to be an uber beast, but Captain Marvel already is one. Let me see some more good showings of Sentry then maybe he wins. Emphasis on maybe.
Captain Marvel by a large majority 8/10

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Captain Marvel

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Sentry has the potential to be an uber beast, but Captain Marvel already is one. Let me see some more good showings of Sentry then maybe he wins. Emphasis on maybe.
Captain Marvel by a large majority 8/10

The Sentry goes all out and so does Captain Marvel who wins they are actually somewhat same....

The World's Mightiest Mortal.

Sentry going all out? Matter manipulation FTW

Shazam

Bob the nutcase wins.

Marvel.

Sentry wins

Sentry

Originally posted by vansonbee
Sentry going all out? Matter manipulation FTW

mattermanipulation?

do people forget that captain was once transmuted inside out and instantly reverted to normal?

Shazam baby

Sentry

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
mattermanipulation?

do people forget that captain was once transmuted inside out and instantly reverted to normal?

Yeah the Sentry wouldn't just transmute him inside out, but would take every particle and absolutely destroy it/ turn it into air, he beat Molecule Man in a particle stand off...... that means knowledge to turn anyone into dust.

Like Gods. Who are beings who are protected by the genealogy of their forefathers. Ares got torn apart as well. The God of Freakin War...... gone. The God of Trickery........gone.

Sentry is a god killer. He bypasses all the rules and decimates what it sees.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Sentry going all out? Matter manipulation FTW Non Molecule Man-matter manipulation won't mean much. And you can't use that feat per ruling.

Sentry still wins.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Yeah the Sentry wouldn't just transmute him inside out, but would take every particle and absolutely destroy it/ turn it into air, he beat Molecule Man in a particle stand off...... that means knowledge to turn anyone into dust.

Like Gods. Who are beings who are protected by the genealogy of their forefathers. Ares got torn apart as well. The God of Freakin War...... gone. The God of Trickery........gone.

Sentry is a god killer. He bypasses all the rules and decimates what it sees.

Using Ares and Loki as examples of how Sentry would rip apart Captain Marvel doesn't mean much as Cap's durability is several levels above them both.

As is, Voidtry/Siege Sentry =/= Sentry per the forum rules.

It all depends on which Sentry we are talking about. It should be a ruling to mention which Sentry (ex. Terrax Sentry, WWH Sentry, etc.) is in the thread. This is because it is well established in comics that Sentry is based off his mental state. That is why he has a lot of varied showings.

I would say, Terrax Sentry wins and other Sentrys (the ones we can talk about) will lose.