Is Zayne Carrick a Skywalker?

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JediSamuraiMRB
I just read about this possibility? What does everyone else think? Also I can put up some scans from Vector part one.

Captain REX
I thought Part One doesn't come out until the 30th?

I would need to see something that would make me consider the idea.

Morridini
Well I have never thought of it, and haven't seen any reason to think about it.

But then again, before Shmi Skywalker we don't know anything about any Skywalkers, so everything is possible.

exanda kane
Wasn't some of the Vector promotional material a montage of Zayne Carrick, Vader, Cade and Luke Skywalker. Maybe I just read more into that than needed.

Darth Sexy
I thought Zayne was possibly Darth Nihilus?

Morridini
Must speculation set him as either Nihilus or the Exile (which is a woman, but I'm sure sex-changes is possible in the SW universe).

As for the pic kane mentioned....
http://images.darkhorse.com/covers/14/14912.jpg

I've never thought about ti like that before, but ti do show 3 Skywalkers out of 4 people, certainly makes this speculation more interesting.

Pwned61
I always thought it was a fairly interesting concept, the most powerful force users ever originating from a line that lead from jedi that had "marginal" force ability.

Blue_Hefner
I hope not

Morridini
And why is that...........?

Captain REX
I think it would be hard to tie Zayne into the Skywalker family tree feasibly without angering anyone...

Nor do I think he's Darth Nihilus.

Morridini
I can't say I see why anyone would be upset about it. After all, only Anakins birth was special, the rest of his ancestors had to come from someone.

Blue_Hefner
Originally posted by Morridini
And why is that...........?

I'm just tired of hearing about the Skywalkers all the time

Pwned61
Originally posted by Blue_Hefner
I'm just tired of hearing about the Skywalkers all the time

To be fair, they are the most influential family of all time, but yeah, it can get old.

JediSamuraiMRB
Originally posted by Captain REX
I thought Part One doesn't come out until the 30th?

I would need to see something that would make me consider the idea.


Thats true, it doesn't come out until then but I found a few scans. Morridini beat me to one scan, but here's one or two...


http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh180/DARKCAEDUS/VECTOR5.jpg



http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh180/DARKCAEDUS/VECTOR4.jpg

Darth Sexy
Originally posted by JediSamuraiMRB
Thats true, it doesn't come out until then but I found a few scans. Morridini beat me to one scan, but here's one or two...


http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh180/DARKCAEDUS/VECTOR5.jpg



http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh180/DARKCAEDUS/VECTOR4.jpg

Someone needs to explain to me wtf that is all about

Ivalice
Uh is this cross over considered canon?

Captain REX
It seems to be a vision that Vader, Luke, and Cade all appear in.

Morridini
Why did you only post two of the four previews? And in wrong order as well?

Anyway, here you can read the preview that he was linking from: http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/preview.php?theid=14-912&p=0

Melcórë
LOL @ "Vector."

JediSamuraiMRB
Originally posted by Morridini
Why did you only post two of the four previews? And in wrong order as well?

Anyway, here you can read the preview that he was linking from: http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/preview.php?theid=14-912&p=0


Actually I didn't find it off of DarkHorse.com. Reason being I just posted two scans was they were the better of the scans. If you like I can post the others.

Captain REX
Hmm, the art style is somewhat...strange.

City Hunter
Originally posted by Captain REX
Hmm, the art style is somewhat...strange. Agreed.

I much prefer Dustin Weaver and Brian Ching's artwork for KOTOR comics, much more detailed, IMO.

Captain REX
And how.

JediSamuraiMRB
I hate photobucket sometimes...


http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh180/DARKCAEDUS/VECTOR01.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh180/DARKCAEDUS/VECTOR02.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh180/DARKCAEDUS/VECTOR0.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh180/DARKCAEDUS/PIX/VECTOR3.jpg

JediSamuraiMRB
Great issue KOTOR#25 is. A few scans from it.


http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh180/DARKCAEDUS/Knights25001.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh180/DARKCAEDUS/Knights25006.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh180/DARKCAEDUS/Knights25007.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh180/DARKCAEDUS/Knights25013.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh180/DARKCAEDUS/Knights25011.jpg

Blue_Hefner
That woman kinda looks like Bastila Shan . . .

exanda kane
Bit of a generic type maybe though? Dark haired woman?

Elite Hunter
It could be the lightsaber is the same color as Bastilla's too.

exanda kane
That is a fair point. Good spotting Hefner, that does look likely.

Who's the kid infected by the way? I'm not familiar with half these characitures.

JediSamuraiMRB
Her name is Celeste Morn. She seems to be a decent Jedi.

Gambler
As I have stated before, this manga style art sucks totally. They should stick to the art we saw in Knights Of The Old Republic - Knights Of Suffering. Decent lightsabers, decent texts.
As for Zayne being a Skywalker? I don't think so. This would mean, Skywalker kin would have some 4000 years old roots, and that is a difficult thing to comprehend, especially after one of them turned out to be a slave to an idiot on Tatooine? Strong kin makes strong people.

We don't know who was Nihilus, yet we still don't know if Zayne survived Mandalorian wars. And we for sure know that only few jedi survived the jedi civil war. Darth Nihilus was born of massacre at Malachor V by sucking up all that emptiness, that was caused in the Force there.

Morridini
Originally posted by Gambler


I can't say I follow that reasoning.

Gambler
Originally posted by Morridini
I can't say I follow that reasoning.

What exactly you don't understand?

Captain REX
Strong kin does not necessarily make strong people, is what he means.

Morridini
Or the other way around, a "weak" kin can produce strong people.

Gambler
I don't know. If a kin with 4000 years long history hasn't made it's place in a galaxy, then they really have screwed up at some point, while still being aware of the legacy. If somebody is aware that his/her family tree stretches for 4000 long years, then weak or not, it somewhat makes him/her strong in spirit, proud!

And a family that old would definitely haven't ran past the archives of the jedi order or Republic historians.

Morridini
How do we know they haven't made a name for them in 4000 years? It's just that the name was something else.

exanda kane
It depends what name you are on about. If it's the Carrick name, then there well could be a long line of the gits under the radar, as well as considering the fact that they the family name might disappear, but the bloodline carries on. If it's the SKywalker name, then the same could apply, but I would personally be a little disappointed if they went for the whole "ancient-Skywalker-dynasty-angle."

But this Vector series, which I wouldn't even know how to find in Britain, looks as though any possible interesting revelations are dismissed in an attempt to create some kind of mythos for the Rahkgouls in the KOTOR game, who let's face it, were more a gameplay device than anything dramatically satisfying (as well as being a little unStarWarsy).

If anytone can be arsed to keep me, or at least a thread updated with the latest events, I'd be much obliged. I'm interested in the idea of this series, although a little disheartened that the 'link' between the stories has to be physical rather than thematic, so yeah, kaplaw.

Captain REX
I agree on the matter of the rahkgouls. Yes, this is more or less a backstory for the 'mysterious' Rahkgoul Plague, claiming that it was a result of Sith mutations caused by the Muur Talisman, a Sith artifact created by the Sith Lord Karness Muur.

I'm not entirely sure what angle will be taken once the Vector plotline takes us into Rebellion/Dark Times, but we do know that whatever the crew was carrying in Dark Times is related to the Muur Talisman plot and that Vader gets in on things somehow...

We'll see.

UltimateStryfe
i know!

zayne is palpatine's ancestor!

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Captain REX
Egad.

Something I just noticed about Celeste Morne. Her belt buckle is more or less identical to that of the Sith Lord behind (who I am assuming is) Karness Muur in the vision that the seers have.

Darth Sexy
I'm not sure what they plan to do with Karness Muur. I love the idea of new ancient sith lords introduced but the guy is carrying a lightsaber and is said to have been one of the ancients. That doesn't make much sense since the ancients had no contact with the republic and weren't using lightsabers..

Captain REX
According to a massive amount of retconning and the newish Jedi vs. Sith Guide to the Force, lightsabers were introduced before the Great Schism and were carried by the Dark Jedi Exiles. It is proposed that they fell out of use due to lack of supplies to build them with, lack of energy cells to power them with, or simply because they just stopped using them in favor of their creations.

Darth Sexy
No I know this Rex but "Old sith Empire" refers to the Empire the exiles created. They did not have any weapons when they came to Korriban and it was stated that it was highly unlikely they went back to sabers seeing as how they needed power packs and instead switched to swords. Of course this would retcon Tulak Hord completely.. Ah the Star Wars inconsistencies continue.

Captain REX
It looks like Ajunta Pall and Tulak Hord used lightsabers... but who knows. I certainly don't.

Darth Sexy
Originally posted by Captain REX
It looks like Ajunta Pall and Tulak Hord used lightsabers... but who knows. I certainly don't.

Ajunta Pall used a lightsaber during the last stand at Corbos. He himself said in the holocron that they came to Korriban with nothing.

Lord Knightfa11
Speculation leads me to believe that Carrick could be nihilus. this would be the most logical assumption if he is to be anyone significant. He couldn't be the exile; the exile is female, and exiled after teh mandalorian wars. He could be an insignificant jedi padawan with an interesting character and story more likely than not.

Remember also that skywalker is the force child of griegor the wise who generated him using his midichlorian creating abilities. Force strength would be considerably weak before Anakin in the family tree.

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