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Silver Surfer

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vs.

Sinestro

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Bloodlust is on...

Norrin takes it

Originally posted by norrinradd43
Norrin takes it

I think Surfer takes it as well, but Sinestro is dam powerful. I wouldn't mind hearing some counter arguments cuz I believe Sinestro could hold his own against Surfer.

Surfer could over power him easily if he didnt dick around like he always does

norrin

I go with the majority. Norrin

Surfer all day.

I generally give Surfer nods above ring wielders, except for majorly powered up ones like Ion or Sodam Yat

Surfer takes it

Sinestro is probably one of the top 5 lantern users of all time and now he's the torchbearer of the Sinestro Corps. From what we saw in the corps, it looks like he's gotten some sort of power boost. He would take the majority.

I didn't see any power boost, he couldn't take Hal and Kyle.

Originally posted by Lumby
Surfer could over power him easily if he didnt dick around like he always does There's something in the Power Cosmic fineprint about wielders succumbing to excessive monologuing.

Surfer all day, every day, from now until the end of time.

Surfer wins but its close.

Surfer all the way, He might even be able to synthesize the ring energy and form another ring for himself ala Beta ray bills hammer or their is always blasting him to bits at a million times the speed of light.

i doubt that Silver Surfer would take control of the power from Sinestro. Sinestro showed how powerful he was when he easily and i mean EASILY took control of the fear power Hal used against him. Surfer has no idea how to manipulate fear anywhere near the level Sinestro does. but Surfer would slightly win. just not easily. It would be a hard fought battle.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
i doubt that Silver Surfer would take control of the power from Sinestro. Sinestro showed how powerful he was when he easily and i mean EASILY took control of the fear power Hal used against him. Surfer has no idea how to manipulate fear anywhere near the level Sinestro does. but Surfer would slightly win. just not easily. It would be a hard fought battle.

Sinestro strikes me as a better leader than fighter.

Originally posted by Lumby
Surfer could over power him easily if he didnt dick around like he always does Or not.

Has anyone seen Sinestro duke it out with Hal hand to hand? Brutal...

Originally posted by redhotrash
Sinestro strikes me as a better leader than fighter.

Sinestro can throw down with any GL.

Alan Scott and Hal.

Those are probably the only two lanterns capable of beating Sinestro on their own. And Guy of course, but he's a given.

Originally posted by llagrok
Alan Scott and Hal.

Those are probably the only two lanterns capable of beating Sinestro on their own.

I would say thats fairly accurate.

Originally posted by llagrok
Alan Scott and Hal.

Those are probably the only two lanterns capable of beating Sinestro on their own. And Guy of course, but he's a given.

Kyle has a better chance at beating Sinestro than Guy.
Before Sin corps I'd say Kyle could take Sinestro, but not anymore.

As for the thread 5/5 split.
If anything it'll be a 5.5/4.5 edge to Surfer.

Originally posted by nimbus006
Sinestro can throw down with any GL. then I don't see why he can't take Surfer.

Originally posted by Rewmac
then I don't see why he can't take Surfer.

Because even the best GL's are slightly below Surfer IMO...

Originally posted by Mr.Biscuits
Kyle has a better chance at beating Sinestro than Guy.
Before Sin corps I'd say Kyle could take Sinestro, but not anymore.

As for the thread 5/5 split.
If anything it'll be a 5.5/4.5 edge to Surfer.

No, you are wrong.

Guy is above any GL.

He's got heart, guts and spirit!

Originally posted by llagrok
No, you are wrong.

Guy is above any GL.

He's got heart, guts and spirit!
Corner.

Originally posted by nimbus006
Because even the best GL's are slightly below Surfer IMO... Agreed.

I really see no reason why Sinestro couldn't take it. The same with Surfer.

It really comes down to which one gives up first, because theyre pretty much equal imo. Sinestro 5/10.

Sinestro's ring would lose power eventually. So even if they were even, he couldn't last as long as SS.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Agreed. But I thought Surfer can be arm barred, and taken out by a Skrull... pick and choose much?

Originally posted by Mindset
Sinestro's ring would lose power eventually. So even if they were even, he couldn't last as long as SS.

Assuming Sinestro doesnt just get smart and pull an ion removal with ss's pc. Realistically, surfer is stronger and to an extent, more durable. However, he's only smart when he faces weaker opponents. He can transmute, but he's only done it to wolverine. He can drain, but he's only done it to people like the hulk (to really no avail), and thought about doing it to gladiator. However, when he faces people that are on his level, he doesn't use said abilities. Because he's not used to it. However, Sinestro is.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Assuming Sinestro doesnt just get smart and pull an ion removal with ss's pc. Realistically, surfer is stronger and to an extent, more durable. However, he's only smart when he faces weaker opponents. He can transmute, but he's only done it to wolverine. He can drain, but he's only done it to people like the hulk (to really no avail), and thought about doing it to gladiator. However, when he faces people that are on his level, he doesn't use said abilities. Because he's not used to it. However, Sinestro is.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist


Meh.

Okay, so the first pc removal thing was pretty far out. But the rest is true. Do you know of anyone else who hes done these things to? Just curious.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Meh.

Okay, so the first pc removal thing was pretty far out. But the rest is true. Do you know of anyone else who hes done these things to? Just curious. I know occurrences of Surfer using his power on beings higher than him... contrary to your post. See Uni-Lord for example... read 'In Thy Name'... off the top of my head of course.
He blew off Rune's hand when he had the IG (of course Mr M is going to try and correct me, so I'll say Rune was struggling with the Soul gem a tiny bit, but he still retained unlimited power. )
Hell, his first appearance had him trapping Galactus inside a house, after he transmuted it to hold him.
He also turned the Thanos Golem animated by Thanos with the IG into atomic ash.
And how could one forget the Tenebrous/Aegis fight?
Hell, even Durok back in the day was more powerful than him... and he ended up getting his ass KO'ed due to time travel.

Also, I don't think he's ever transmuted Wolverine, and he's stolen Hulk's power twice (easily)... and only didn't do it again because it would have killed Hulk.

And that is why I laugh at your post.

Whether my opinion is that Surfer wins, or that Sinestro wins... your post is so far from being correct, it's laughable.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I know occurrences of Surfer using his power on beings higher than him... contrary to your post. See Uni-Lord for example... read 'In Thy Name'... off the top of my head of course.
He blew off Rune's hand when he had the IG (of course Mr M is going to try and correct me, so I'll say Rune was struggling with the Soul gem a tiny bit, but he still retained unlimited power. )
Hell, his first appearance had him trapping Galactus inside a house, after he transmuted it to hold him.
He also turned the Thanos Golem animated by Thanos with the IG into atomic ash.
And how could one forget the Tenebrous/Aegis fight?
Hell, even Durok back in the day was more powerful than him... and he ended up getting his ass KO'ed due to time travel.

Also, I don't think he's ever transmuted Wolverine, and he's stolen Hulk's power twice (easily)... and only didn't do it again because it would have killed Hulk.

And that is why I laugh at your post.

Whether my opinion is that Surfer wins, or that Sinestro wins... your post is so far from being correct, it's laughable.

No need to be rude.

There were outside circumstances involving the battle with tenebrous and aegis. Also, the surfer trapping galactus in a cage is pis, considering surfer is what, like 1% of galactus in power? Logically, he shouldn't have had the power to trap someone with 99% more power than him, especially if that person is the abstract that gave him the power.
But, all of that aside. I can admit that my post was flawed.

But surfer did transmute wolverine. He tried to cut surfer, and surfer caused his skin to decompose.

Originally posted by Sirius77
No need to be rude.

There were outside circumstances involving the battle with tenebrous and aegis. Also, the surfer trapping galactus in a cage is pis, considering surfer is what, like 1% of galactus in power? Logically, he shouldn't have had the power to trap someone with 99% more power than him, especially if that person is the abstract that gave him the power.
But, all of that aside. I can admit that my post was flawed.

But surfer did transmute wolverine. He tried to cut surfer, and surfer caused his skin to decompose. My initial post was rude then... I was just expanding on why I laughed.

And yet, he still used his 'power' to use the 'outside source' as an offensive tool.

And Galactus broke out.

Marvel Zombies.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
My initial post was rude then... I was just expanding on why I laughed.

And yet, he still used his 'power' to use the 'outside source' as an offensive tool.

And Galactus broke out.

Marvel Zombies.

Okay then, never mind, lol.


And had it not been there so conveniently, I doubt he would have won.

Okay, then why did you use the example?

Marvel zombies defy every law of physics. Even comic book physics. They ate galactus.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Okay then, never mind, lol.


And had it not been there so conveniently, I doubt he would have won.

Okay, then why did you use the example?

Marvel zombies defy every law of physics. Even comic book physics. They ate galactus. I know... but he still used this power against a higher foe(s).

Because he transmuted something in his first appearance against a being 100's of times more powerful than him.

I know.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I know... but he still used this power against a higher foe(s).

Because he transmuted something in his first appearance against a being 100's of times more powerful than him.

I know.

True.

Good point.

Marvel zombies are ridiculous.

With a name (and a moustache) like some villain from a silent movie (can't you just picture the cape and black hat?), Sinestro is almost goofy enough to be cool...

But not quite. Power rings are awesome weapons, so he'll hang in there, but Silver Surfer (Whose name IS goofy enough to be cool) wins this one.

The Power Cosmic! Is it in you?

cosmic spiderman would beat sinestro .. sinestro would need atleast 3 handy gls with him to beat the surfer and that may not be even enough due to surfers ability to use his witts .. gls to a herald are kind of one dimensional

Sinestro one shots Surfer. Easily.

Soarin Norrin wins.

Originally posted by panthergod
Sinestro one shots Surfer. Easily.

yeah one shots silver surfer into a couple of galaxies away it would take surfer seconds to find and meet with sinestro again with cosmic awareness

that is pretty much the only thing sinestro can do is make spectrum baseball bat the size of a town and whack sufer with it light years away ... but it would not really do anything

but i do think the animated green lanteren would beat the animated surfer that i would agree with you on comic book versions no

It is possible to knock Surfer out without any fancy light shows. It's happened before.

Sinestro is more than a ring user.
I know he has done some things that could make him a threat to Surfer, but he has a lot if history and I never saved Sinestro scans.

Sinestro 7/10.

Originally posted by sonicwires
yeah one shots silver surfer into a couple of galaxies away it would take surfer seconds to find and meet with sinestro again with cosmic awareness

that is pretty much the only thing sinestro can do is make spectrum baseball bat the size of a town and whack sufer with it light years away ... but it would not really do anything

but i do think the animated green lanteren would beat the animated surfer that i would agree with you on comic book versions no
..since Sinestro beats people far above Surfer...including multiple elite GLs.. Nope.

He's been Skyfather class for a while now.

I think that SS wins in a very good and close fight.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
I think that SS wins in a very good and close fight.

Lol he can't even beat Thor. Sinestro mops him.

Thor would beat both of them so...

Originally posted by Damborgson
Thor would beat both of them so...
Thor gets mudstomped as well. Do you read comics?

Sinestro solos surfer with ease, most likely a solid 9/10 on Sinestro's favor.

Originally posted by panthergod
Thor gets mudstomped as well. Do you read comics?

I do, that's how I know you're wrong.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I do, that's how I know you're wrong.
Are you telling us Thor can beat Sinestro with Parallax?

Well obviously not.

Edit: where did that come from?

Sinestro has Parallax power since last four years.

Thats cool. But since that makes it a mismatch I was talking about non parallax Sinestro.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Thats cool. But since that makes it a mismatch I was talking about non parallax Sinestro. this match up was made way back in 08 clearly intending it to be classic Sinestro.

Some people are just very desperate to give a DC guy a win they will try changing it to be current Sinestro

Even without Parallax, Sinestro is beastly. See his fight with Volthoom.

Surfer

Sinestro

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sinestro

The OP intended this to be classic Sinestro, so Surfer wins.

Originally posted by Surtur
The OP intended this to be classic Sinestro, so Surfer wins.
Even classic Sinestro has enough showings to win.

surfer should beat any lantern.

I do seem to recall another thread where people seemed to think it pretty solidly showed GL's were above Surfer. At least the named GL's anyways.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
surfer should beat any lantern.
Why?

Originally posted by Surtur
I do seem to recall another thread where people seemed to think it pretty solidly showed GL's were above Surfer. At least the named GL's anyways.

Sinestro + parallax > universal

Sinestro without parallax > Skyfather

Originally posted by Board Walker
Sinestro + parallax > universal

Sinestro with parallax > Skyfather

I take it you mean "without". So now GL's are skyfathers?

Originally posted by abhilegend


Where do you rank Silver Surfer? Is hr a high herald in your opinion?

Originally posted by Surtur
I take it you mean "without". So now GL's are skyfathers?

When Sinestro bonded with parallax during the volthoom saga the two became part of one another, and their symbiotic relationship became different than that of prior parallax hosts. Since that bonding Sinestro has lost parallax several times (IE when high father using the life equation knocked it out of him), however he has regained it every time and shown that he is able to wield it entirely to his Ego (IE sinestro wields the fear entity through ego not will, there is a difference).

Even when Sinestro doesn't have the parallax entity inside of him he has still shown to be able to wield the emotional fear spectrum beyond what any other yellow lantern could, and has shown to be able to wield the entire emotional spectrum as well (hosted the life entity, only kyle has done similar, and volthoom but he is literally the emotional spectrum). So yes Sinestro since the Volthoom saga, even when not hosting the parallax entity has shown that he has to some degree become one with the Fear portion of the emotionAL spectrum.

Surfer is in the upper half of the Herald tier of power, however Sinestro is far beyond that tier. With Parallax he is a multiversal power at his best showings, and a universal power at his lowest showings. Without Parallax since the Volthoom saga he is a skyfather+ being at his best, and a low skyfather to high Trans at the absolute worst showings.

Yeah, both Hal and Sinestro have evolved past Surfer many times over.

As of present Hal has conceptually become the DC manifestation of Will Power, Sinestro has become the manifestation of Ego, and Kyle has become a living focal point of the emotional spectrum.

Hal, Sinestro, and Kyle have all evolved beyond the emotional entities, and have all shown to be multiversal+ powers, of which each represents something else.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Where do you rank Silver Surfer? Is hr a high herald in your opinion?
Yes, in power. His combat feats are not at par with his power though.

Originally posted by Zack M
Yeah, both Hal and Sinestro have evolved past Surfer many times over.

hal and sinestro together could beat silver surfer but alone "evovled "in what what? police forcing planets ? getting girls with tentacles coming out of their heads?


silver surfer could take on three of the top ten lanterns at one time he could take on 8 or 9 medio oaker lanterns

putting a sinestro against silver surfer is spite against sinestro the only thing i can see sinestro doing while he sucks his last breath is threatening silver surfers mother " ill go to mothers home planet for this and kill your whole family" but galactus already destroyed my planet and tricked me into energy body " sinestro" oo well then , please dont kill me"

Originally posted by sonicwires
hal and sinestro together could beat silver surfer but alone "evovled "in what what? police forcing planets ? getting girls with tentacles coming out of their heads?


silver surfer could take on three of the top ten lanterns at one time he could take on 8 or 9 medio oaker lanterns

putting a sinestro against silver surfer is spite against sinestro the only thing i can see sinestro doing while he sucks his last breath is threatening silver surfers mother " ill go to mothers home planet for this and kill your whole family" but galactus already destroyed my planet and tricked me into energy body " sinestro" oo well then , please dont kill me"
Based on what exactly can he take on so many Lanterns?

And Weaponer did exactly that and more. Beat Kyle, John, Boodikka, Hannu and even Ganthet.

Sinestro owned him like nothing.

Originally posted by sonicwires
hal and sinestro together could beat silver surfer but alone "evovled "in what what? police forcing planets ? getting girls with tentacles coming out of their heads?


silver surfer could take on three of the top ten lanterns at one time he could take on 8 or 9 medio oaker lanterns

putting a sinestro against silver surfer is spite against sinestro the only thing i can see sinestro doing while he sucks his last breath is threatening silver surfers mother " ill go to mothers home planet for this and kill your whole family" but galactus already destroyed my planet and tricked me into energy body " sinestro" oo well then , please dont kill me"

Why do marvel biased people keep pretending their lack of knowledge on characters they know nothing about makes their arguments valid?

Prove that Surfer wins.