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No BFR
No PIS
No flying

Fight in NYC

Who wins?

Bump

I think Ares would own Peter... he may not be as durable...but he's a way better fighter...but there strength levels should be about even

oops u said apollo lol...colossus still loses

Yeah, from The Authority.

If Apollo was fully charged then and only then I think he could win.

Fully Charged Apollo has too much going for him. Depending on how charged up Apollo is determines whether or not Colossus has a chance.

Colossus 7/10

Apollo's dumb as a doorknob.

Apollo.

How strong is Apollo?

Originally posted by Silent Master
How strong is Apollo? Strong enough.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Colossus 7/10

Apollo's dumb as a doorknob. No offense but are you EVER right about something on this forum?

Originally posted by Lil Buddy
Strong enough.

That is hardly an answer.

Who would be his closest strength peer in Marvel/DC?

You mean, am I ever wrong?

Originally posted by Silent Master
That is hardly an answer.

Who would be his closest strength peer in Marvel/DC?

Probably Colossus.

if this is ult. colossus then the one that loses is midniter to his own jellousy

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
You mean, am I ever wrong?

Nope.

Your wrong about most things.

Like what?

Originally posted by Silent Master
That is hardly an answer.

Who would be his closest strength peer in Marvel/DC? Yours was hardly a question.

But Apollo wins this. Stronger most likely and if not he still has speed.

Originally posted by Lil Buddy
Yours was hardly a question.

But Apollo wins this. Stronger most likely and if not he still has speed.

Incorrect, my question was rather direct, you have yet to answer BTW.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Like what? This fight mostly.

Allot of the stuff you said in WW vs Namor etc.

Other stuff I saw you say.

What in the Namor WW thread was incorrect?

The part where I laugh at Namor being 1/5th Wonder Woman?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Incorrect, my was a very direct question, one you have yet to answer BTW. Wasn't very detailed know was it.

How strong is Apollo could be anything, his strength class, comapred to others.



Anyway Apollo is probably stronger and if he isn't he got his speed.

Take that away and maybe Peter could win.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
What in the Namor WW thread was incorrect?

The part where I laugh at Namor being 1/5th Wonder Woman? No but allot of the other stuff.

Wrong thread anyway.

Apollo has superspeed without flight?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Apollo has superspeed without flight? I don't see why not.

Super speed is super speed.

Its not like it works on everything but his arms.

Originally posted by Lil Buddy
Wasn't very detailed know was it.

How strong is Apollo could be anything, his strength class, comapred to others.



Anyway Apollo is probably stronger and if he isn't he got his speed.

Take that away and maybe Peter could win.

Asking how strong someone is, is a rather straight foward question, one that I notice that you still haven't managed to give a real answer too, BTW, since flying is not allowed, what speed feats does Apollo have?

But Apollo has never demonstrated speedblitz capabilities or superspeed movements, just the ability to barrell into someone fast with his flight.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Asking how strong someone is, is a rather straight foward question, one that I notice that you still haven't managed to give a real answer too, BTW, since flying is not allowed, what speed feats does Apollo have?

Its been answered.

But apart from that I said hes probably stronger than Apollo.

But keep trying to drag this on if you want.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
But Apollo has never demonstrated speedblitz capabilities or superspeed movements, just the ability to barrell into someone fast with his flight.

So your saying his speed is restricted to just when he flies?

I find that hard to believe.

Apollo, and it's not even a fight. Anyone who needs to see why this is so can check out his respect thread. Besides the fact that he can survive in the sun, can weld/melt steel with his heat vision, and speedblitz the crap out of Colossus, somehow I can't see Colossus strength being able to do things like take out a continent-sized spaceship or lifting skyscrapers.

Seriously guys, I know it's fashionable to think Apollo is a 2nd-rate Superman clone. And it's because he is. But that doesn't mean he jobs to anyone near Class 100. < Superman can still easily equal >>> Colossus.

"Probably" is hardly a definitive statement, I'll make it easy.

Pick the closest one

cl 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100.

Apollo is probably a solid Class 90 at peak.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Apollo is probably a solid Class 90 at peak. Based on what?

Originally posted by Silent Master
"Probably" is hardly a definitive statement, I'll make it easy.

Pick the closest one

cl 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100. I think hes 100. hes been upgraded but I'm not sure how much by.

Hulk said hes close to his old levels know.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
But Apollo has never demonstrated speedblitz capabilities or superspeed movements, just the ability to barrell into someone fast with his flight.

edit

The fact that what he's done could be mimic'd by Class 90's.

Like Zeus.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Apollo is probably a solid Class 90 at peak.

The hell? Yeah, that just invalidated anything you say in this thread. Class 90 peak...gimme a break.

So does that mean Cpt. Atom maxes at about Class 90? Apollo was wailing on him until he PIS'd his way to victory via a trick.

Probably, you think Captain Atom is stronger then Wonder Man or Classic Hulk?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
The hell? Yeah, that just invalidated anything you say in this thread. Class 90 peak...gimme a break.

So does that mean Cpt. Atom maxes at about Class 90? Apollo was wailing on him until he PIS'd his way to victory via a trick.

He seems to be saying allot of stuff like this in other threads as well.

But anyway Apollo is underrated in strength quite a bit.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Probably, you think Captain Atom is stronger then Wonder Man or Classic Hulk? My god...

Wonder Man is like class 100 anyway.

Originally posted by Lil Buddy
My god...

Wonder Man is like class 100 anyway.

Wonder Man is Class 90-95

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Wonder Man is Class 90-95 Hasn't WM gone toe to toe with Thor before?

Yeah and?

Wonder Man's schtick has always been just under Class 100.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yeah and?

Wonder Man's schtick has always been just under Class 100. Proof.

All I seen you do is make very wrong statements without proof.

Check pretty much every handbook ever made and Marvel's site and character quotes.

Outside of his Hollywood era, Wonder Man's always been the bridge between the Men (CL 100) and the children (everyone else).

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Check pretty much every handbook ever made and Marvel's site and character quotes.

Outside of his Hollywood era, Wonder Man's always been the bridge between the Men (CL 100) and the children (everyone else).

You listen to handbooks now? Handbooks that have been proven wrong again and again.

So tell me exactly current or classic WM.

What one are you talking about

Both Current and Classic are sub 100.

Handbooks are typically the source from which class rankings come from and are often correct in those. It's the minor details and obscure feats that they botch up on.

Did you just claim Captain Atom is a class 90? Look at Lil Buddy's sig. That's Captain Atom wrestling with SMP. And before you say jack, the armor does NOT amp him, as Monarch himself confirmed in the story.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Both Current and Classic are sub 100.

Handbooks are typically the source from which class rankings come from and are often correct in those. It's the minor details and obscure feats that they botch up on.

Wait a minute. You go with the handbooks, over the comics and on-panel feats? hysterical

On panel feats tell me that Spiderman is class 100.
Captain America is Class 10
Batman is Class whatever he needs to be to get the job done.

Comics and handbook generally go hand in hand until respect threads are made to show only a characters top showings and not the average and bring up obscure feats only 5 people knew about/paid attention to prior.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
On panel feats tell me that Spiderman is class 100.
Captain America is Class 10
Batman is Class whatever he needs to be to get the job done.

Comics and handbook generally go hand in hand until respect threads are made to show only a characters top showings and not the average.

You just lost all credibility right there.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Both Current and Classic are sub 100.

Handbooks are typically the source from which class rankings come from and are often correct in those. It's the minor details and obscure feats that they botch up on.

My god man its like debating with a 8 year old than read a few comics.

I wouldn't even go that far with you, more like looked at the pictures.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You just lost all credibility right there.

I would have thought he lost it a while ago.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You just lost all credibility right there.

I somehow don't care.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yeah and?

Wonder Man's schtick has always been just under Class 100.

A class 95 cannot take Thor in a slugfest and win.


1. http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3508/thor212az0fa.jpg
2. http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/745/thor229cd5qs.jpg
3. http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3295/thor235ni5oo.jpg
4.http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3689/wondermanvsthor3d6kv7xl.jpg

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
I somehow don't care. Thats good.

Wonder Woman class 85.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
A class 95 cannot take Thor in a slugfest and win.


1. http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3508/thor212az0fa.jpg
2. http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/745/thor229cd5qs.jpg
3. http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3295/thor235ni5oo.jpg
4.http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3689/wondermanvsthor3d6kv7xl.jpg

Looks like a class 95 just took Thor in a slugfest and won.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Looks like a class 95 just took Thor in a slugfest and won.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Looks like a class 95 just took Thor in a slugfest and won.



http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengers192075xt.jpg

stfugtfo

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Apollo is probably a solid Class 90 at peak.

Thank you, I don't know why he was having such a hard time answering.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest


http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengers192075xt.jpg

stfugtfo

http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyliftstrain15mmhi5.jpg

CLASS 100!

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thank you, I don't know why he was having such a hard time answering. No one is sure thats why. Neither was I. I don't know why your having sucha hard time understanding.

If you had stopped moaning I would have tried to answer you.

Class 90? Hes very wrong. Class 100 for sure but not sure where abouts.

Your almost as bad as this guy.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyliftstrain15mmhi5.jpg

CLASS 100!


Lulz @ your one dimensional thinking. Papa Martian, I mean Papa Bada, I mean Papa Digi, I mean Papa Spaulding....

Originally posted by Lil Buddy
No one is sure thats why. Neither was I. I don't know why your having sucha hard time understanding.

If you had stopped moaning I would have tried to answer you.

Class 90? Hes very wrong. Class 100 for sure but not sure where abouts.

Your almost as bad as this guy.

Guys in the cl 100 have high end feats like lifting the Midgard Serpent, moving the moon and throwing people out of the solar system.

I don't think Apollo could even come close to matching any of those, or matching anyone that has in a fight.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Guys in the cl 100 have high end feats like lifting the Midgard Serpent, moving the moon and throwing people out of the solar system.

I don't think Apollo could even come close to matching any of those, or matching anyone that has in a fight. They are above class 100. But c;ass is the limit in the bios and suck. I say hes class 100 or above.

You really don't understand comics do you?

I understand them fine, and I don't see him matching feats with any of the people that are listed as cl 100.

Ms Marvel has knocked people countries over and Rhino has punched people into orbit.

CLASS 100!

Invincible plays global catch and lifts 300 tons

CLASS 100!

Lol Gtfoh not one of these people listed are above CL 85

Originally posted by Silent Master
I understand them fine, and I don't see him matching feats with any of the people that are listed as cl 100. Hes not going to match those feats because hes below. But still hes class 100.

Not everyone is the same level of strength in their classes.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Ms Marvel has knocked people countries over and Rhino has punched people into orbit.

CLASS 100!

Invincible plays global catch and lifts 300 tons

CLASS 100!

Lol Gtfoh not one of these people listed are above CL 85

Invincible recently pressed about 300 hundred tons.

At least Silent knows something about comics. I can stand talking to him unlike the you with the crap that comes from your...keyboard.

Yup and his first handbook listing was

DUM DUM DUM

Class 30.

Which was re-issued readvised and had creator consultation to be changed into

DUM DUM DUM

Class 75.

Oops, nvm, all signs point to class 100!

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yup and his first handbook listing was

DUM DUM DUM

Class 30.

Which was re-issued readvised and had creator consultation to be changed into

DUM DUM DUM

Class 75.

Oops, nvm, all signs point to class 100!

So you are going by what the handbook says, over what happened. Am I right in thinking this?

Originally posted by Lil Buddy
So the bio is obviously wrong. You may be knew to comics but handbooks are better of ignored.

They are the worst evidence ever because they are always wrong and anyone that uses them as proof deserves to be laughed at.

If you want to say that Apollo can lift a 100 tons, then say that. However, "cl 100" is a handbook term and I don't see Apollo coming anywhere close to matching feats of those in that class.

Originally posted by Lil Buddy
So you are going by what the handbook says, over what happened. Am I right in thinking this?


You're going about it in a literal sense, I'm going about it in a relative sense.

Class isn't really about how much you lift more or less a relative power gauger for characters in the Marvel/Image universe (hence why the term "ton" has been all but dropped).

Literally speaking Invincible is a class 100. He's got feats that require well over 100 tons of lifting force.

Relatively speaking Invincible fits in with those who's power level puts them in the class 75.

Same goes with Apollo, I don't know who's hardcore enough to say he's stronger then Wonder Man so Class 90 is about where he should go.

Understand that EVERY mainstay character (outside of Class 100's) have feats well outside their lifting range, doesn't invalidate the class system, it just means stop being so literal.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you want to say that Apollo can lift a 100 tons, then say that. However, "cl 100" is a handbook term and I don't see Apollo coming anywhere close to matching feats of those in that class.

Maybe so. But he can still match some and is not the weakest 100 tonner.

Your using the high class 100s. Hes low more or less.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
You're going about it in a literal sense, I'm going about it in a relative sense.

Class isn't really about how much you lift more or less a relative power gauger for characters in the Marvel/Image universe (hence why the term "ton" has been all but dropped).

Literally speaking Invincible is a class 100. He's got feats that require well over 100 tons of lifting force.

Relatively speaking Invincible fits in with those who's power level puts them in the class 75.

Understand that EVERY mainstay character (outside of Class 100's) have feats well outside their lifting range, doesn't invalidate the class system, it just means stop being so literal.

If they do those efats, msot of the time they are that class.

Is Spiderman class 100 from that one feat alone? No. Is WM 100? Yes because he has shown to be on that level before.

Invincible is always being upgraded and how he is 300. What don't you get about strength levels??

Originally posted by Lil Buddy
Maybe so. But he can still match some and is not the weakest 100 tonner.

Your using the high class 100s. Hes low more or less.

I don't know of any officially listed cl 100 character that he could match.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I don't know of any officially listed cl 100 character that he could match.

Well I think Peter is class 100.

Apollo is stronger than him.

Originally posted by Lil Buddy
If they do those efats, msot of the time they are that class.

Is Spiderman class 100 from that one feat alone? No. Is WM 100? Yes because he has shown to be on that level before.

Invincible is always being upgraded and how he is 300. What don't you get about strength levels??


I get it plenty, you're being literal again.

Spiderman has lots of feats outside of the 10-20 ton range (whatever he goes by nowadays), doesn't mean that he's outside the 15 (let's say 15) class range.

Hell feat for feat you could argue Spiderman being stronger then 25 ton Cage, does this mean it's true?

Invincible is always being upgraded but still gets SCRAPED by the very bottom of the barrell Viltrumite warrior (all of whom are class 100) thus Class 75 is a legit rank.

Assuming that Colossus is cl 100, what strength feats does Apollo have that would show him to be stronger?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
I get it plenty, you're being literal again.

Spiderman has lots of feats outside of the 10-20 ton range (whatever he goes by nowadays), doesn't mean that he's outside the 15 (let's say 15) class range.

Hell feat for feat you could argue Spiderman being stronger then 25 ton Cage, does this mean it's true?

Invincible is always being upgraded but still gets SCRAPED by the very bottom of the barrell Viltrumite warrior (all of whom are class 100) thus Class 75 is a legit rank.

Before his downgrade yes he was and its been said MANY times.

What??? His peoples strength is high. They are easily doing feats that prove you otherwise. But no you ignore them like everything else that makes sense.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Assuming that Colossus is cl 100, what strength feats does Apollo have that would show him to be stronger?

Lifting a huge statue. His owning of Captain Atom among others.

I actually like this guy because he asks the questions.

When has it been said that Spidey's stronger then upgraded Cage? That's fan hearsay, ESPECIALLY given their respective portrayals in New Avengers.

His people's strength has been said to be Class 100 in the DUM DUM DUM handbooks. Even the most bottom of the barrell Adult Viltrumite. You remember the Viltrumite that his dad easily munched, you know, the nub that Invincible was running for his LIFE against? That alone tells you Invincible =/= CL 100.

I'm not that big a Colossus fan, but didn't he catch/support a spaceship during secret wars?

I wouldn't call Captain Atom a class 100 either, and if he is, he's at the very bottom of the barrell of class 100's.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
When has it been said that Spidey's stronger then upgraded Cage? That's fan hearsay, ESPECIALLY given their respective portrayals in New Avengers.

His people's strength has been said to be Class 100 in the DUM DUM DUM handbooks. Even the most bottom of the barrell Adult Viltrumite. You remember the Viltrumite that his dad easily munched, you know, the nub that Invincible was running for his LIFE against? That alone tells you Invincible =/= CL 100.

I didn't say they said hes stronger but the feats and the people in the comics say how strong he is. Maybe he is stronger but its his durability that always has been the winner with him.

ARe you ignoring what happened?? Your like a....Christ I have never seen someone with more stupid beliefs when it comes to comics.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
I wouldn't call Captain Atom a class 100 either, and if he is, he's at the very bottom of the barrell of class 100's. And thats why we ignore you.

He has proven otherwise I think.

Originally posted by Lil Buddy
I didn't say they said hes stronger but the feats and the people in the comics say how strong he is. Maybe he is stronger but its his durability that always has been the winner with him.

ARe you ignoring what happened?? Your like a....Christ I have never seen someone with more stupid beliefs when it comes to comics.

Yeah feats exactly, but in their ACTUAL PORTRAYALS in New Avengers and Civil War who was the bruiser/C-list powerhouse and who was the annoying smack talker?

I'm not ignoring what happened, you're ignoring common sense. Woo-hoo Invincible has a 100+ ton feat under his belt

what mainstay over class 50 doesn't?

Originally posted by Peek
And thats why we ignore you.

He has proven otherwise I think.

Ignore me? Lol I come into topics state my opinion and attract people to my big beautiful nutsack.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yeah feats exactly, but in their ACTUAL PORTRAYALS in New Avengers and Civil War who was the bruiser/C-list powerhouse and who was the annoying smack talker?

I'm not ignoring what happened, you're ignoring common sense. Woo-hoo Invincible has a 100+ ton feat under his belt

what mainstay over class 50 doesn't?

That was for the storyline. But other stuff apaprently ahve said otherwise.

Hasn't Cage been upgraded anyway??

Thats right he does and the handbook was always wrong because every time they puts his strength in there he done bigger and better things.

Originally posted by Peek
That was for the storyline. But other stuff apaprently ahve said otherwise.

Hasn't Cage been upgraded anyway??

Thats right he does and the handbook was always wrong because every time they puts his strength in there he done bigger and better things.

What other stuff?

The handbook isn't wrong, serious research was actually done to give Invincible an accurate level of power relative to his portrayal in the comics, the reason this was done, moreso then others, was because of fan outcry from the original rating (Class 30).

So what you have is Invincible being a CL 75 arguably CL 85 (if you think that ONE feat is enough to jump him 10 notches in the CL ranking) lifting 300 tons. Goodie.

Apollo wins

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
What other stuff?

The handbook isn't wrong, serious research was actually done to give Invincible an accurate level of power relative to his portrayal in the comics, the reason this was done, moreso then others, was because of fan outcry from the original rating (Class 30).

So what you have is Invincible being a CL 75 arguably CL 85 (if you think that ONE feat is enough to jump him 10 notches in the CL ranking) lifting 300 tons. Goodie.

It is wrong. By the fact that they do stuff on the level of say class 50 that they do of 25. The handbook says 25 but they have been proven wrong many times.

An example but works the same.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Probably Colossus.

I'm sorry, but do you know who Apollo is? It sounds like you haven't the vaguest idea.

Apollo wins this. 10/10 most likely.

Judging from 10/10 it seems like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Good day to you sir.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Judging from 10/10 it seems like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Good day to you sir. Actually from that post alone is obvious he knows more about what hes talking about than you.

From the looks of the post I doubt he could even tell me who Superman was, let alone anything about Apollo I don't already know.

Well you obviously don't know allot.

Class 90? lmao

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
From the looks of the post I doubt he could even tell me who Superman was, let alone anything about Apollo I don't already know.



How funny. It doesn't change the fact that Apollo would beat Colossus, or how moronic you are.

Originally posted by Peek
Well you obviously don't know allot.

Class 90? lmao

Wonder Man = 100
Apollo = ???

Originally posted by Laguna L
How funny. It doesn't change the fact that Apollo would beat Colossus, or how moronic you are.

Would he beat him up

as bad as he beat up the Thor clone that anally dominated him?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Would he beat him up

as bad as he beat up the Thor clone that anally dominated him?

Colossus loses. Plain and simple.

How? Apollo can't even beat Midnighter.


Let's look at the check box for Colossus

Better Fighter
Not as dumb as a box of rocks
Faster
More durable
As strong, if not stronger
Better endurance
Has yet to be raped

What are the pro's for Apollo?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
How? Apollo can't even beat Midnighter.

A pitiful statement indeed.

Apollo CAN beat the Midnighter.

Those boxes and checks are idiotic. You just like Colossus more.

Nope. Midnighter has a perfect record against Apollo

I demand on panel evidence that Midnighter will lose to Apollo.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Nope. Midnighter has a perfect record against Apollo

I demand on panel evidence that Midnighter will lose to Apollo.

You must really like Colossus.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
How? Apollo can't even beat Midnighter.


Let's look at the check box for Colossus

Better Fighter
Not as dumb as a box of rocks
Faster
More durable
As strong, if not stronger
Better endurance
Has yet to be raped

What are the pro's for Apollo?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph


Seriously, read more comics dude. Get your head out of your a**.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
How? Apollo can't even beat Midnighter.


Let's look at the check box for Colossus

Better Fighter
Not as dumb as a box of rocks
Faster
More durable
As strong, if not stronger
Better endurance
Has yet to be raped

What are the pro's for Apollo?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph


NICE comeback, very impressive. Not.

Let's look at the check box for Apollo.

Better Fighter
Not as dumb as a box of rocks
Faster
More durable
As strong, if not stronger
Better endurance
Has yet to be raped

Hah.

Originally posted by Laguna L
NICE comeback, very impressive. Not.

Let's look at the check box for Apollo.

Better Fighter
Not as dumb as a box of rocks
Faster
More durable
As strong, if not stronger
Better endurance
Has yet to be raped

Hah.

Better fighter? The same person who is always berated for rushing in headstrong and constantly has to be bailed out by his superiors for his poor tactical choices and comes to fights drunk is a better fighter then someone who is ALWAYS working in the danger room. Always training himself and getting better? Holding his own against trained Shi'ar warriors and cosmic beings? LOL while Apollo is out clubbing with Midnighter or Heath Ledger Colossus is in the Danger Room training, getting better, having his fighting style evaluated, etc.

Not as dumb as a box of rocks? The same person who gets mocked by a 14 year old for his lack of common sense?

Faster? This guy gets speed blitzed by Midnighter WITH flight, let alone without it.

More durable? Are you kidding? He gets his ear drums busted up by Midnighter, loses power in the cold weather and cannot survive Mach 30 impact.

As strong if not stronger? In what imaginary world are we living in? Apollo is a chump until he sundips, even then he hasn't really done anything to put him above Colossus while under amp for long.

Better endurance? Lol this is the same guy who has lost all his power and strength in a matter of MINUTES.

Has yet to be raped? Oh, so you haven't read the Authority, that explains it.

doped

Getting beat by Midnighter is not a low showing. the guy has pre-cog on par or better than Spidey. He's a genius who can calculate millions of scenarios. He's like the Batman of the Authority.

Apollo would win almost all of the time straight out, but Midnighter is smart enough and skilled enough to take the majority if he has prep.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Getting beat by Midnighter is not a low showing. the guy has pre-cog on par or better than Spidey. He's a genius who can calculate millions of scenarios. He's like the Batman of the Authority.



So basically the equivalent of Batman beating up Superman.

Wait, Batman with a spider sense

Since that makes it that much a better showing

doped

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
So basically the equivalent of Batman beating up Superman.

Wait, Batman with a spider sense

Since that makes it that much a better showing

doped

My god you're an idiot.

Cute.Originally posted by Laguna L
My god you're an idiot.

Originally posted by Laguna L
My god you're an idiot.

Shouldn't talk that way to your adoptive father, SON.

ION

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
How? Apollo can't even beat Midnighter.


Let's look at the check box for Colossus

Better Fighter
Not as dumb as a box of rocks
Faster
More durable
As strong, if not stronger
Better endurance
Has yet to be raped

What are the pro's for Apollo?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Shouldn't talk that way to your adoptive father, SON.

ION

Hahaha! The humor!!!

Nice avoiding the points

IOW

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
How? Apollo can't even beat Midnighter.


Let's look at the check box for Colossus

Better Fighter
Not as dumb as a box of rocks
Faster
More durable
As strong, if not stronger
Better endurance
Has yet to be raped

What are the pro's for Apollo?

You seem to believe Apollo is going to stomp Colossus and I'm and idiot to believe otherwise, can you back up your claims?

Originally posted by Silent Master
That is hardly an answer.

Who would be his closest strength peer in Marvel/DC?

Gladiator. High confidence. It says hes Magestic level... if so then higher.

Higher than Glads? Not sure. Digi would be able to make the best call on that IMO.

If he truly is Majestic class he should be.

Gladiator has matched people like Thor and been shown to punch apart a planet in a few hits, Apollo doesn't have any feats that come close.

Colossus has been harmed by intense heat... ermm

Apollo is not close to Glads, Wonder Woman, Majestic, Thor and Supes. He's a level or two down.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Higher than Glads? Not sure. Digi would be able to make the best call on that IMO.


Lol.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Lol. I see the child has been aloud out to play.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Higher than Glads? Not sure. Digi would be able to make the best call on that IMO.

I have read everything Apollo and no hes not on their level. Hes powerful enough to win this but not on they're level.

*allowed

Originally posted by Peek
I see the child has been aloud out to play. nono Be nice.
Originally posted by Peek
I have read everything Apollo and no hes not on their level. Hes powerful enough to win this but not on they're level. Do you have any scans? I really don't know much about Apollo and would like to see some feats.

I saw a thread or two in the respect forum that shows his stuff.

I'll look.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t469914.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/456443_1-Respect-The-Authority-Updated

Originally posted by Peek
I saw a thread or two in the respect forum that shows his stuff.

I'll look.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t469914.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/456443_1-Respect-The-Authority-Updated Thank you. w00t

Thank the Digi guy.

Originally posted by Peek
Thank the Digi guy.

Who's that Digi guy ?

DigiMark007

Someone rang?

Anyway, Stacks is obviously just trying to annoy people, or has some fanboy grudge against Apollo. Anyone can go look at the respect thread (which isn't so long as to be intimidating, but is informative) and see that Apollo >>> Colossus. I don't want to debate, especially against people who are rude, but just want to point out that you can all go see for yourselves.

AJ's thread dedicated specifically to him is more comprehensive, but mine is slightly shorter but probably better as an overview of his powers.

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Someone rang?

Anyway, Stacks is obviously just trying to annoy people, or has some fanboy grudge against Apollo. Anyone can go look at the respect thread (which isn't so long as to be intimidating, but is informative) and see that Apollo >>> Colossus. I don't want to debate, especially against people who are rude, but just want to point out that you can all go see for yourselves.

AJ's thread dedicated specifically to him is more comprehensive, but mine is slightly shorter but probably better as an overview of his powers.

Rock on, man.

actually digi

mines much bigger

and shows everything while you show just a bit

your thread doesnt deserve recomendation

your just biased

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Someone rang?

Anyway, Stacks is obviously just trying to annoy people, or has some fanboy grudge against Apollo. Anyone can go look at the respect thread (which isn't so long as to be intimidating, but is informative) and see that Apollo >>> Colossus. I don't want to debate, especially against people who are rude, but just want to point out that you can all go see for yourselves.

AJ's thread dedicated specifically to him is more comprehensive, but mine is slightly shorter but probably better as an overview of his powers.

Stacks is trying to annoy people?

How?

The fact that he's read comics with Apollo in them and realises what a CHUMP he is?

The fact that he was called on his opinion and verbally dominated said poster?

???

I need to know.

What's Apollo done that makes him ">>>>" Colossus?

Get his ass kicked by pastiche's and One Eyed Seth?

Hell Digi is the same person that said Apollo's speed will play a factor in this fight.

That's obvious bias.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Stacks is trying to annoy people?

How?

The fact that he's read comics with Apollo in them and realises what a CHUMP he is?

The fact that he was called on his opinion and verbally dominated said poster?

???

I need to know.

What's Apollo done that makes him ">>>>" Colossus?

Get his ass kicked by pastiche's and One Eyed Seth? The fact that you ignore evidence and logic and make your own. Which is wrong.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Hell Digi is the same person that said Apollo's speed will play a factor in this fight.

That's obvious bias.

Are you stupid?

Originally posted by Peek
The fact that you ignore evidence and logic and make your own. Which is wrong.

There is no "evidence" or "logic" just a one time feat of an amped Apollo doing some Ms Marvel level feats.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Hell Digi is the same person that said Apollo's speed will play a factor in this fight.

That's obvious bias.

No one is taking you seriously, just so you know.

Originally posted by Peek
Are you stupid?

I'd be interested in your "evidence" and "logic"

Originally posted by Laguna L
No one is taking you seriously, just so you know.

Because no one has an argument.

But me, of course.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
There is no "evidence" or "logic" just a one time feat of an amped Apollo doing some Ms Marvel level feats.

My god. Are you a child? You are ignoring everything else that loses you this debate.