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Molecule Man (pre retcon)
http://www.norse-man.net/Marvel/Char-M/MoleculeMan.jpg

vs

Monarch (current)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3a/MonarchWTF.jpg/275px-MonarchWTF.jpg

MM stomps.
Monarch is overrated.

Did Monarch recently get some sort of massive power up?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Did Monarch recently get some sort of massive power up?

That's what i was wondering!

Spite

Monarch would only have a slight chance,
if we are talking about pre-retcon MM, before he realised/unlocked his full potential.

Originally posted by Galan007
Monarch would only have a slight chance,
if we are talking about pre-retcon MM, before he realised/unlocked his full potential.

I thought PreRet was the one that stood up to Beyonder and destroyed a thousand dimensions or something.

barker @ this thread.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I thought PreRet was the one that stood up to Beyonder and destroyed a thousand dimensions or something. That is pre-retcon MM -- but after he was 'unlocked'...

I was just saying that Monarch would only have a chance against the vastly weaker pre-retcon MM, .

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I thought PreRet destroyed a thousand dimensions or something.
Several Billion UniverseS.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Several Billion UniverseS.

Including those universe's plant life

Originally posted by Galan007
That is pre-retcon MM -- but after he was 'unlocked'...

I was just saying that Monarch would only have a chance against the vastly weaker pre-retcon MM, .
I always thought Marvel went silly on that one.

Because MM's only limitation was organic molecules,
he was still ridiculously uber manipulating in-organic molecules.

But even aside from this,
I never noticed the upgrade myself,
he simply went from controlling in-organic molecules,
to controlling both in-organic, and organic molecules.

Somehow this boosted him above the hierarchy.

I will submit though,
he never demonstrated the scale of influence he had in SS,
before that.
(I just never understood why being able to manipulate "organic" molecules,
was such a big deal)

Personally, imo, twisting non-organic matter in the fabric of time/space,
should be the big daddy.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Including those universe's plant life
At that point, he was able to affect organic molecules aswell.

Originally posted by Galan007
Monarch would only have a slight chance,
if we are talking about pre-retcon MM, before he realised/unlocked his full potential. Huh? So you are putting Monarch against an ignorant MM.

MM stomps him. This thread is spite.

Monarch loses

Originally posted by quanchi112
Huh? So you are putting Monarch against an ignorant MM. I'm not putting Monarch against anyone -- I simply stated that the only way Monarch would possibly have a chance, is if he was fighting the aforementioned 'version' of MM.

I didn't say he was fighting said 'version'.

Monarch stands no chance in this fight.

if they fight in character i give monarch a chance...MM might just cry and scream for his love?

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not putting Monarch against anyone -- I simply stated that the only way Monarch would possibly have a chance, is if he was fighting the aforementioned 'version' of MM.

I didn't say he was fighting said 'version'. Monarch loses here. At least we can agree.

MM with a finger repaired multiversal damage caused by Beyonder. With a pubic hair he disintegrates Monarch.