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this is current juggy vs 2 gls

the 2 GLs are kyle and the black one from the cartoon.


you think 2 GLs can take on current juggernaut ?

they could bfr him in the blink of an eye, maybe even put him down with sonics, or disorientate him... dunno about killing him outright though.

Exactly. Pretty much any gl with even half a brain would bfr him.

But average GLs don't have half a brain.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
But average GLs don't have half a brain. good point

Both Kyle and John are powerful enough to solo Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Both Kyle and John are powerful enough to solo Juggernaut. i think they would each get whipped if any GL took on juggy one on one.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
i think they would each get whipped if any GL took on juggy one on one. Then you are sadly mistaken my friend.

Giant Can opener ftw!

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Then you are sadly mistaken my friend. juggy has taken on other guys before solo that are way above any GL level pal

Assuming the unnamed green lanterns can BFR the juggernaut, the BFR merely means the two Green Lanterns survive to fight another day without actually confronting the problem.

Without BFR, the green lanterns lose.

Originally posted by Evangel94
Assuming the unnamed green lanterns can BFR the juggernaut, the BFR merely means the two Green Lanterns survive to fight another day without actually confronting the problem.

Without BFR, the green lanterns lose. i seriously doubt they would survive the fight

Originally posted by spidey-dude
juggy has taken on other guys before solo that are way above any GL level pal Like who exactly?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Like who exactly? hes taken on thor easy. hes beaten gladiator and hulk. and im gonna laugh if you say one GL is above gladiators level

Originally posted by spidey-dude
this is current juggy vs 2 gls

the 2 GLs are kyle and the black one from the cartoon.


you think 2 GLs can take on current juggernaut ?

The "black one" has a proper name. His name is John Stewart.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
The "black one" has a proper name. His name is John Stewart. well i forgot the black ones name sorry

John Stewart isn't just from the cartoon, just in case you didn't know, he is actually a comic book character.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
juggy has taken on other guys before solo that are way above any GL level pal

Juggernaut will charge in like he always does. And then the gl will pick him up with a construct while hes running, and pretty much just throw him to the moon.


If it was someone like hal or kyle, then he might find himself teleported somewhere unpleasant...

Originally posted by Mindset
John Stewart isn't just from the cartoon, just in case you didn't know, he is actually a comic book character. most of the justice league books ive read i see kyle in them

Originally posted by Sirius77
Juggernaut will charge in like he always does. And then the gl will pick him up with a construct while hes running, and pretty much just throw him to the moon.


If it was someone like hal or kyle, then he might find himself teleported somewhere unpleasant... you think juggy isnt strong enough to break out of there shield if they try sending him somwehre

Oh, is this john? My, bad. He still bfrs him somewhere very unpleasant. Juggernaut has no chance here.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
most of the justice league books ive read i see kyle in them

Then you haven't read too many, apparently.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
you think juggy isnt strong enough to break out of there shield if they try sending him somwehre Not sure about that Gls shields hold black holes

If there is no BFR allowed and they were to battle in a contained arena, there is nothing that a GL could do except slow the inevitable. Juggernaut would outlast them and defeat them. If BFR is allowed, Juggernaut will lose.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Then you haven't read too many, apparently. not as big of a DC fan as i am marvel

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
If there is no BFR allowed and they were to battle in a contained arena, there is nothing that a GL could do except slow the inevitable. Juggernaut would outlast them and defeat them. If BFR is allowed, Juggernaut will lose. explain this BFR thing

Originally posted by spidey-dude
explain this BFR thing

BFR stands for "Battlefield Removal".

For example: Teleporting or transporting your opponent (or yourself) away via magic, technology, or other means to a different area. It is mostly used to avoid direct physical and/or confrontational combat with an exceptionally strong opponent.

-Evangel94

Originally posted by Sirius77
Juggernaut will charge in like he always does. And then the gl will pick him up with a construct while hes running, and pretty much just throw him to the moon.

Juggs has the ability to resist most forces acted up on him, even if lifted off the ground. Jean Grey tried twice and he continued to advance on her in mid-air.

Agreed with the consensus, outside a BFR the GL's lose.

Originally posted by Evangel94
BFR stands for "Battlefield Removal".

For example: Teleporting or transporting your opponent (or yourself) away via magic, technology, or other means to a different area. It is mostly used to avoid direct physical and/or confrontational combat with an exceptionally strong opponent.

-Evangel94 transporting or teleporting juggy isnt gonna kill him. this is a fight to death who wins.

I think they have a chance of getting the helmet off.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
the 2 GLs are kyle and the black one from the cartoon.

hysterical



funny.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
this is current juggy vs 2 gls

the 2 GLs are kyle and the black one from the cartoon.


you think 2 GLs can take on current juggernaut ?

durfused

John shoots his will all over Juggy's face.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
juggy has taken on other guys before solo that are way above any GL level pal

Like who? Names, issues, etc.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
transporting or teleporting juggy isnt gonna kill him. this is a fight to death who wins.

Then it's a stalemate, and pretty much a worthless fight.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Like who? Names, issues, etc.




prolly in the cartoons131fist

Originally posted by spidey-dude
hes taken on thor easy. hes beaten gladiator and hulk. and im gonna laugh if you say one GL is above gladiators level

Idiot.

If BFR is allowed GLs win.

Green Lanterns can use telepathy. So they'd win with knock-out too.

To the death no one wins.

Lulz the black one.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Like who? Names, issues, etc.



Then it's a stalemate, and pretty much a worthless fight. Classic Doctor Strange

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
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313 The funny thing is that in later episodes Rouge was able to give Glads a decent fight

Originally posted by DigiMark007
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I loved that episode. Glads also beat Rouge in the later when they had the Shiar vs X-Men. Classic.

Originally posted by jrodslam
I loved that episode. Glads also beat Rouge in the later when they had the Shiar vs X-Men. Classic. I remember that fight. Rouge actually put up a better fight then Juggs did

Originally posted by Newjak
I remember that fight. Rouge actually put up a better fight then Juggs did

Yup.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
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bah, Gladiator was holding back .

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Juggs has the ability to resist most forces acted up on him, even if lifted off the ground. Jean Grey tried twice and he continued to advance on her in mid-air.

Agreed with the consensus, outside a BFR the GL's lose.
apparently that 'ability' doesn't extend to a mild tap on the back from Hulk , nor the more drastic physical attacks of Onslaught.

Stalemate imo

the GL rings lose power, Juggernaut wins.

no other outcome conceivable, when bfr is out and people presume that "no physical force can hurt Juggernaut" (and any evidence to the contrary is swept under the carpet).

Originally posted by janus77
the GL rings lose power, Juggernaut wins.

no other outcome conceivable, when bfr is out and people presume that "no physical force can hurt Juggernaut" (and any evidence to the contrary is swept under the carpet).

Not true. Juggernaut is very susceptible to telepathy - a feat the lanterns are capable of accomplishing.

Not exactly a win in a fight to the death, but a win nonetheless.

ah, but it is a "fight to the death" ... so that's not gonna cut it.
eventually the rings will be spent and Juggernaut will just crush their skulls.

Originally posted by Soljer
Not true. Juggernaut is very susceptible to telepathy - a feat the lanterns are capable of accomplishing.

Not exactly a win in a fight to the death, but a win nonetheless. He was trolling.

Hurt about Hulk vs Juggernaut threads...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
He was trolling.
I was?
really?

Originally posted by janus77
ah, but it is a "fight to the death" ... so that's not gonna cut it.
eventually the rings will be spent and Juggernaut will just crush their skulls.

Once the Juggernaut is put into a telepathic slumber, or otherwise dealt with telepathically, the Lanterns need not continue putting power into the feat.

Meaning, at the very worst for the Lanterns, or hell - either Lantern, this is a draw.

Originally posted by janus77
I was?
really?
your doing it againsrsly

Originally posted by janus77
I was?
really? Seeing as you don't believe what you're saying... and only say it to get a rise out of people...

Teh juggy fans hurt ur fanbase. U not liek ther argments, etc, etc... GL's win 10/10.

It doesn't take 2 hours to recharge a lantern ring....

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Seeing as you don't believe what you're saying... and only say it to get a rise out of people...

Teh juggy fans hurt ur fanbase. U not liek ther argments.
I don't believe it no, but I would say that if the belief is not contested then I can apply it to this situation. which is what I did.

when I want to mock the absurdity of the belief, I'll just put up a Juggernaut vs Eternity thread.

as it stand... they can't put him down and if they try too hard, their rings will be spent.

Apparently John can switch minds?
http://img439.imageshack.us/my.php?image=glmosaic06086cn.jpg

Grab a stray cat, switch it with Juggernaut, kill the cat?

Originally posted by Soljer
Once the Juggernaut is put into a telepathic slumber, or otherwise dealt with telepathically, the Lanterns need not continue putting power into the feat.

Meaning, at the very worst for the Lanterns, or hell - either Lantern, this is a draw.
hmm, that sounds viable but can they get past his helmet?

have they done it to similarly powerful characters?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Apparently John can switch minds?
http://img439.imageshack.us/my.php?image=glmosaic06086cn.jpg

Grab a stray cat, switch it with Juggernaut, kill the cat?
you don't know what damage a creature of a cat's intelligence might do with the juggernaut's powers... safer to keep them in Cain's limited 'hands'.

Originally posted by janus77
you don't know what damage a creature of a cat's intelligence might do with the juggernaut's powers... safer to keep them in Cain's limited 'hands'.

Not true. BFR is not an acceptable method of victory against Cain Marko.

If they utilize X's plan and end Cain Marko's life, they can very easily put the Catternaut in an Oa prison, or dump him in a black hole, or put him on another, isolated plane of existence or....

I bet Kyle's glad he has "the black one from the cartoon" with him now.

Originally posted by janus77
you don't know what damage a creature of a cat's intelligence might do with the juggernaut's powers... safer to keep them in Cain's limited 'hands'. You are totally right teh catz have 9 lives

but what if the "Catternaut" combines his Juggernaut forward momentum thing with a cat's naturally phenomenal agility and the nine lives thing?

it'll bring down the entire universe...

Juggernaut once broke through dimensional barriers, might be able to get back.

Originally posted by janus77
but what if the "Catternaut" combines his Juggernaut forward momentum thing with a cat's naturally phenomenal agility and the nine lives thing?

it'll bring down the entire universe...

Juggernaut once broke through dimensional barriers, might be able to get back.

As eighth day Juggernaut.

Something he isn't for this thread, and something that the Lanterns wouldn't even know to consider. The Juggernaut is dead. The Catternaut is in a black hole, Oan prison, or an isolated plane of existence. The Catternaut will have no REASON to try to get out. A creature of the Cat's intelligence has no concept of revenge, nor will it even really realize that the Lanterns were responsible for the transfer.

In fact, such a transfer would likely be such a shock to the Cat, it'd go into a catatonic state for the rest of it's immortal life.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I bet Kyle's glad he has "the black one from the cartoon" with him now.

Didn't you hear? Kyle's a racist. DC thought it'd help develop his personality more.

the Catternaut would escape for the same reason that cats don't wear leashes... they are enigmatic creatures given to mysterious wanderings.

give them irresistible forward momentum and the entire omniverse is doomed .


anyway, this is a technical victory as "Juggernaut" =/= Cain, but the charm.
so removing Cain's mind would still leave the Charm working a-ok.

So in knock out fights, telepathically knocking out Cain's mind isn't a win. One must telepathically knock out the enchantment.

The Catternaut is my new favorite character.

Originally posted by Deathstroke
The Catternaut is my new favorite character.
sounds like a member of Dominion Tank Police!

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So in knock out fights, telepathically knocking out Cain's mind isn't a win. One must telepathically knock out the enchantment.
well, technically if the fight is between "x" and The Juggernaut, shouldn't the charm be overpowered and not just the man utilising it?

it's not as if they're one and the same thing, unlike say Superman or Flash.

Originally posted by janus77
well, technically if the fight is between "x" and The Juggernaut, shouldn't the charm be overpowered and not just the man utilising it?

it's not as if they're one and the same thing, unlike say Superman or Flash.

The Flash is the Flash because of the speedforce.

So, if you'd really like to apply that logic, you'd have to knock out the dimension the Flash is empowered by, not the man utilizing it.

Originally posted by Soljer
The Flash is the Flash because of the speedforce.

So, if you'd really like to apply that logic, you'd have to knock out the dimension the Flash is empowered by, not the man utilizing it.
the Speedforce is his power source, yes. but when you talk about Flash you are talking about a particular person, Wally, Bart etc and not about The SpeedForce. when you talk about The Juggernaut, you are talking about a charm created by Cyttorak and not specifically about the one wielding it, technically.

say for instance, Strange with the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak... you break the bands, you beat the magic, you break Strange's neck but fail to break the bands, you beat Strange and not the magic. you see?

Originally posted by spidey-dude

the 2 GLs are kyle and the black one from the cartoon.

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Originally posted by janus77
the Speedforce is his power source, yes. but when you talk about Flash you are talking about a particular person, Wally, Bart etc and not about The SpeedForce. when you talk about The Juggernaut, you are talking about a charm created by Cyttorak and not specifically about the one wielding it, technically.

say for instance, Strange with the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak... you break the bands, you beat the magic, you break Strange's neck but fail to break the bands, you beat Strange and not the magic. you see?

First page, opening post.

"This is current juggy vs...."

Current 'juggy' is Cain Marko who is empowered by Cyttorak the same way Current 'flashy' is Wally West empowered by the speedforce.

It's directly and entirely analogous.

k, I was speaking in more general terms, with specific regard to the concept of Juggernaut.

and not entirely analogous because the Flashes have different attributes and degrees of contact with the SpeedForce, as far as I'm aware.

Juggernauts all pretty much are the Charm.

Originally posted by janus77
k, I was speaking in more general terms, with specific regard to the concept of Juggernaut.

and not entirely analogous because the Flashes have different attributes and degrees of contact with the SpeedForce, as far as I'm aware.

Juggernauts all pretty much are the Charm.

Not true. As alluded to by Cyttorak himself, the Juggernaut's power depends upon his own determination.

Different Juggernaut's can be on different levels.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
the 2 GLs are kyle and the black one from the cartoon.

Well it's obvious the thread-starter doesn't have much knowledge of Green Lanterns. "the 2 GLs are kyle and the black one from the cartoon."

Both Kyle Rayner and John Stewart can solo Juggernaut.