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So after a trip to the Oak Ridge national lab in Oak Ridge, Tennessee and learning about a few things nobody knows about, what other technology does the United States government have that we don't know about???

well...we dont know about it...so how would we know about it?...

http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/movie/stargate/stargate_10.jpg

Real photo evidence of the stargate!!!

hahaha...class

Man, i heard they got micro wave guns.

Well I wasn't going to say anything, but there are such things as invisibility, force fields, and teleportation. Now, don't ask me to explain how they do it because I don't know, I just know that our government has it. I was just wanting to know if anything else happened to leak out.

those technologies werent leaked out...i've watched documentaries on them...the "invisibility" technology utilises fibre optics to take an image from one side of an object and project it to the other side of the object

teleportation has so far only been achieved in so far as they've managed to make photons of energy travel faster than light

the only thing i've seen of interest technology wise is that scientists at the university of st andrews (about a 15 minute drive from my house) have managed to create, in the lab, the event horizon of a black hole

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-02/ns-llc021308.php

Interesting article. I didn't know someone had done that yet. The source I mentioned earlier told me that they expected to get into another dimension some time soon. Looks like they already have.

One thing I know that they do possess thats not common knowledge is they have satellite systems in space where if your outside a building smoking,they can detect what kind of brand of cigarette your smoking.Thats scary stuff.who knows what kinds of OTHER things they have in Washington.They got so many secret government experiments going on all the time that we don't even know half of the technology they have.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
One thing I know that they do possess thats not common knowledge is they have satellite systems in space where if your outside a building smoking,they can detect what kind of brand of cigarette your smoking.

Unless proven incorrect. I would put this statement under the catagory of "highly overexagerated and most like unprovable" claims.

As for the question, "What kind of unknown Technology does the U.S. Gov. have?"... The very nature of the question negates the possibility of an answer.

Maybe the U.S. government has no unknown technology.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Unless proven incorrect. I would put this statement under the catagory of "highly overexagerated and most like unprovable" claims.



as of two years ago commercially available satellites could resolve objects at 16 inches or larger so i would imagine at that point that research technologies either clandestine or not would be in advance of that...to what degree though i dont know

http://www.sgi.com/company_info/newsroom/press_releases/2006/november/geoeye.html

What I meant in the question is what "we shouldn't know." Because of course if they were unknown, nobody would know.

http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/hidden_technology.htm

Originally posted by jaden101
as of two years ago commercially available satellites could resolve objects at 16 inches or larger so i would imagine at that point that research technologies either clandestine or not would be in advance of that...to what degree though i dont know

http://www.sgi.com/company_info/newsroom/press_releases/2006/november/geoeye.html

I'm not saying satellites aren't crazy powerful...

Originally posted by Mr Parker
they can detect what kind of brand of cigarette your smoking.Thats scary stuff.

I just think that that statement is just a bit over the top.

Originally posted by Deano
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/hidden_technology.htm

posted before...called out on it before...this is exactly what i meant when ii said that conspiracy theorists...when shown to be silly...leave things for a little while and then post the same thing again a few weeks later

i disagree. the thread starter asked a question and i pulled the website from the previous thread. its relevent

Originally posted by Deano
i disagree. the thread starter asked a question and i pulled the website from the previous thread. its relevent

If the information has proved to be false, then it is never relevant.

Originally posted by jaden101
the only thing i've seen of interest technology wise is that scientists at the university of st andrews (about a 15 minute drive from my house) have managed to create, in the lab, the event horizon of a black hole

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-02/ns-llc021308.php Obviously reverse engineered from the stargate.

Originally posted by Deano
i disagree. the thread starter asked a question and i pulled the website from the previous thread. its relevent

no it isn't

yeah it is

Originally posted by Crosshair
yeah it is

Originally posted by KharmaDog
If the information has proved to be false, then it is never relevant.

No it isn't.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
One thing I know that they do possess thats not common knowledge is they have satellite systems in space where if your outside a building smoking,they can detect what kind of brand of cigarette your smoking.Thats scary stuff.who knows what kinds of OTHER things they have in Washington.They got so many secret government experiments going on all the time that we don't even know half of the technology they have.


I love how the only people that sat that have no affiliation with the government what so ever. Either you are full of piss and just want people to start fearing the Govt or someone has told you something and you are gulible enough to belive it.

Originally posted by Crosshair
So after a trip to the Oak Ridge national lab in Oak Ridge, Tennessee and learning about a few things nobody knows about, what other technology does the United States government have that we don't know about???

I doubt you've seen anything the government has in secret. I doubt you really are in the military and even if you are, you wouldn't have a high enough rank to access the classified systems.



But, If you are in the millitary, I want to know what Branch, Rank and MOS you are. I'll disprove more bullshit once I know those.

Weather control devices, read Wilhelm Reich.
Earthquake control devices, read Nikola Tesla.
UFO's, read Robert Searl.
Scalar weapons, read Nikola Tesla.

And then some.

the weather control i can belive
but earthquake control is IMPOSSIBLE... and no amount of speculation can change that. Earthquakes are from shifting plates INSIDE the earth, and nothing can stop such a force to stop that you would virtialy have to freeze the earth and destroy the liquid layer (wow i forgot its name curse not having science for a long time). they can PREDICT earthquakes but never control.

AntiMatter Bombs...seriously!

Originally posted by Jin Saotome
AntiMatter Bombs...seriously!


AntiMatter bombs......nice....

Originally posted by Lord Follen
the weather control i can belive
but earthquake control is IMPOSSIBLE...

Have you ever read stuff about the greatest genius of all time, Nikola Tesla?

Quote from his biography, Nikola Tesla - Prodigal Genius:

"In 1896 while his fame was still on the ascendant he planned a nice quiet little vibration experiment in his Houston Street laboratory. Since he had moved into these quarters in 1895, the place had established a reputation for itself because of the peculiar noises and lights that emanated from it at all hours of the day and night, and because it was constantly being visited by the most famous people in the country. The quiet little vibration experiment produced an earthquake, a real earthquake in which people and buildings and everything in them got a more tremendous shaking than they did in any of the natural earthquakes that have visited the metropolis. In an area of a dozen square city blocks, occupied by hundreds of buildings housing tens of thousands of persons, there was a sudden roaring and shaking, shattering of panes of glass, breaking of steam, gas and water pipes. Pandemonium reigned as small objects danced around rooms, plaster descended from walls and ceilings, and pieces of machinery weighing tons were moved from their bolted anchorages and shifted to awkward spots in factory lofts. "It was all caused, quite unexpectedly, by a little piece of apparatus you could slip in your pocket," said Tesla."

Quote from Tesla - The Electric Magician:

"Invention was normally a deliberate process for Tesla, his every intention and goal fully formed before he and his crew lifted a finger. But there were times when he stumbled upon a new discovery by mistake. Tesla performed his first experiments with resonance technology at his New York laboratory by firing up a small oscillator, which caused a minor amount of vibration. Suddenly, an alarmed squad of police officers stormed into the lab, demanding that Tesla
stop at once. Manhattan was shaking for miles around. Tesla had not taken into account how resonance waves grow stronger the further they travel from their source. He had unintentionally created what became known as Tesla's earthquake machine."

Quote from The Strange Life of Nikola Tesla:

"He also did notable research on high-voltage electricity and wireless
communication; at one point creating an earthquake which shook the ground for several miles around his New York laboratory."

The Tesla shit is misleading.......

it's an old story told by many, so probably true.........but no earthquake. Tesla matched the resonate frequency of a building with an oscillating motor. One building, it's steel frame. It's pure physics and possible to recreate.

The earth, however, is not made of one material. It's comprised of many materials with different densities, therefore different resonate frequencies. The only way to cause an earthquake is the ol' fashioned natural way, crust/mantle displacement. The displacement causing pressure affecting the earth above it. An earthquake has nothing to do with waves bouncing back and fourth off of each other until a resonate frequency is achieved. I suggest you do a litte brushing up on your geology.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
The Tesla shit is misleading.......

One could only come to that conclusion after having studied everything Tesla had discovered.....and thats a LOT!

Please explain why we can speak of PRE and POST Tesla science and why he was the most important scientist to ever have existed?

You sound like a PRE Tesla science elitist.

Geology, what does that mean? You have specialized in one speck of sand in the Sahara that is knowledge!

This is why science has not achieved anything since Tesla science has been held back (kept a secret) by the elite. All stuck in there own little world!

Earthquake's can be created by humans!! Read Tesla.

Originally posted by Katsu
One could only come to that conclusion after having studied everything Tesla had discovered.....and thats a LOT!

Please explain why we can speak of PRE and POST Tesla science and why he was the most important scientist to ever have existed?

You sound like a PRE Tesla science elitist.

Geology, what does that mean? You have specialized in one speck of sand in the Sahara that is knowledge!

This is why science has not achieved anything since Tesla science has been held back (kept a secret) by the elite. All stuck in there own little world!

Earthquake's can be created by humans!! Read Tesla.

you're an idiot. Nikola Tesla was a genius and contributed much to science. What you have posted in this thread is pure bullshit. You take the entirely possible/plausable account of Tesla matching the resonate frequency of the steel frame of a building he was using causing it to shake.......and somehow come up with an earthquake machine, apparently not knowing the basics of geology, what an earthquake even is nor what it is the result of. I would consider that misleading. You are an idiot.

ofcourse humans can create earthquakes.........all it takes is an exceedingly deep hole or cavern and a catalyst for the pressure waves....high explosives would do it.

have you ever even taken a geology course? jesus christ the idiocy.

You have not answered my questions which shows you dont know anything about Tesla and his discoveries.

Back to the lab mate!

Please explain why we can speak of PRE and POST Tesla science and why he was the most important scientist to ever have existed?

Originally posted by Katsu
You have not answered my questions which shows you dont know anything about Tesla and his discoveries.

Back to the lab mate!

Please explain why we can speak of PRE and POST Tesla science and why he was the most important scientist to ever have existed?

irrelevant to a thread in which you are attempting to attribute idiotic science fiction to a great man. Stop trying to change the subject. You made an idiotic post about Tesla's resonate frequency motor which he tuned to the resonate frequency of the steel structure of his builing and grandised it to be some sort of earthquake machine without even the simple knowledge of what an earthquake is nor what it is the result of. Nice try.

next are you going to post that Albert Einstein made a time machine......then ask people question's about Einstein and his contributions to physics when they call out your bullshit science fiction claim? slight of hand doesn't work with me.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
irrelevant to a thread in which you are attempting to attribute idiotic science fiction to a great man. Stop trying to change the subject. You made an idiotic post about Tesla's resonate frequency motor which he tuned to the resonate frequency of the steel structure of his builing and grandised it to be some sort of earthquake machine without even the simple knowledge of what an earthquake is nor what it is the result of. Nice try.

next are you going to post that Albert Einstein made a time machine......then ask people question's about Einstein and his contributions to physics when they call out your bullshit science fiction claim? slight of hand doesn't work with me.

Thank you for showing us your ignorance. You judge without knowing.......wait let me guess the G-Field does not exist either...mhahahah

You know N O T H I N G!

Your science is from 1900! Wake up its 2008!

BTW Einsteins Relativity theory is only true as far as when the first order of reality is concerned.............again pre 1900 science you came up with.

you have enlightened me........

I now see the light.........and that light is showing me one of two possibilites:

A. Everybody in the UK has the I.Q. of a 12 year old

or

B. You lied about your age in your profile

as I know option A is not true....that only leaves B.



first order of reality? WTF? did you steal that from an episode of Star Trek?

ps. I haven't forgotton the subject at hand, your idiotic claims. Earthquakes happen the same in 2008 as they did in 2008 B.C. Still pressure waves moving in the outward direction of the catalyst...impacting on the earth above them.

Wow personal insults, you are a wise man indeed! Let this baby enlighten you, my friend who is stuck in 1900.........

Quoted from Bearden - New Tesla Electromagnetics And The Secrets Of Electrical Free Energy:

"Relativity is presently regarded as a theory or statement about
fundamental physical reality. In fact, it is only a statement about
FIRST ORDER reality -- the reality that emerges from the vector
interaction of electromagnetic energy with matter. When we break
down the vectors into scalars (shadow vectors or hypervectors), we
immediately enter a vastly different, far more fundamental reality. In
this reality superluminal velocity, multiple universes, travel back and
forth in time, higher dimensions, variation of all "fundamental
constants" of nature, materialization and dematerialization, and
violation of the "conservation of energy" are all involved. Even our
present Aristotlean logic -- fitted to the photon interaction by vector
light as the fundamental observation mechanism -- is incapable of
describing or modeling this more fundamental reality. Using scalar
waves and scalar interactions as much subtler, far less limited
observation/detection mechanisms, we must have a new
"superrelativity" to describe the expanded electromagnetic reality
uncovered by Nikola Tesla."

so it was an episode of Star Trek?

Originally posted by Evil Dead
so it was an episode of Star Trek?

Ha Ha Ha, you lose!

More on how Einsteins Theory is incomplete, same source

"Multiple-valued basic dimensional functions are either not permitted or severely discouraged in the present theory For one thing, integrals of multiple valued derivative functions have the annoying habit of "blowing up" and yielding erroneous answers, or none at all. And we certainly do not allow multiple types of time! This leads to the absurdity of the present interpretation of relativity which permits only a single observer (and a single observation) at a time. So if one believes as "absurd" a thing as the fact that more than one person can observe an apple at the same time, the present physics fails. However, the acceptance of such a simple proposition as multiple simultaneous observation leads to a physics so bizarre and incredible that most Western physicists have been unable to tolerate it, much less examine its consequences. In the physics that emerges from multiple simultaneous observation, all possibilities are real and physical. There are an infinite number of worlds, orthogonal to one another, and each world is continually splitting into additional such "worlds" at a stupendous rate. Nonetheless, this physics was worked out by Everett for his doctoral thesis in 1956, and the thesis was published in 1957."

In normal people language: Einsteins theory was based on 1 observer of time and space.

So only 1 person can look at an apple at any given time? Ofcourse not = 1 billion people could look at the same apple at the same time, which means absurd bizarre physics.........westerners cannot accept this. In countries such as Russia and Japan they teach this in highschool!!!!

Thats why Japan now has the most advanced technology on our planet, the west is still stuck with Einsteins incomplete theory.........Pre Tesla Science that is!

WAKEY WAKEY!

bahaaahaa......seriously dude.......bahaaahaa

you have a complete misunderstanding. The theory of relativity does not state that only one person could view your single apple at a time. It states that if one billion people were to view your apple at the same time, all would be viewing from a different pespective. Some might view the apple as being a deeper color of red than others, some might view it as smaller as they are taller and therefore their eyeline is at a greater distance away, all will view at a different angle as none of the two could be occupying the same spacial coordinates at the same point of time. good analagy......

You can put 100 people in a room with a chair in the middle. Everyone will see the chair, but each person will see it relatively different........from different angles, different physical perceptions, different accuity of senses, etc.

His theory was based on 1 observer, not an infinity of them...........

More quoted, same source:

"Even though it is bizarre, Everett's physics is entirely consistent with all the present experimental basis of physics. The present electromagnetic theory is constructed for only a single "world" or universe -- or "level." The expanded theory, on the other hand, contains multiply nested levels of virtual state charge -- and these levels are identically the same as orthogonal universes, or "hyperframes." Multiple kinds -- and values -- of time also exist. The
new concept differs from Everett's, however, in that the orthogonal
universes intercommunicate in the virtual state. That is, an observable in one universe is always a virtual quantity in each of the other universes. Thus one can have multi-level "continuities" and
"discontinuities" simultaneously, without logical conflict. It is precisely these levels of charge -- these levels of scalar vacuum -- that lace together the discontinuous quanta generated by the interaction of
vector light with mass. However, to understand the new electromagnetic reality, one requires a new, expanded logic which contains the old Aristotlean logic as a subset. I have already pointed out the new logic in my paper, "A Conditional Criterion for Identity, Leading to a Fourth Law of Logic," 1979, available from the National Technical Information Center, ADA071032.
Even as logic is extended, quantum mechanics, quantum
electrodynamics, and relativity are drastically changed by the Tesla
electromagnetics, as I pointed out in my paper, "Solutions to Tesla's
Secrets and the Soviet Tesla Weapons," Tesla Book Company, 1580The present electromagnetics is just a special case of a much more fundamental electromagnetics discovered by Nikola Tesla, just as Newtonian physics is a special case of relativistic physics. But in the electromagnetics case, the differences between the old and the new are far more drastic and profound."

incorrect.

Einstein's theory is based on the observation of one contrasted against the observations of all others. A relative position....

Originally posted by Evil Dead
incorrect.

Einstein's theory is based on the observation of one contrasted against the observations of all others. A relative position....

What if there are no others and everyone is observing the same? Exactly the major flaw in his theory, thanks!

contradiction.

If there are "no others" there can be no "everyone".

Originally posted by Evil Dead
contradiction.

If there are "no others" there can be no "everyone".

Yes, time to see through the contradiction mate, Einsteins logic is WRONG!

Originally posted by Katsu
Yes, time to see through the contradiction mate, Einsteins logic is WRONG!


You seem to think you are right no-matter what. However there is still an infinite amount of information that no one will ever see. Your theory could also be wrong and Einstien's is right. At this moment he is just as right as anyone else.

none of which has anything to do with moving the earth....

Originally posted by Evil Dead
none of which has anything to do with moving the earth....

true...but to the people in the respective buildings the effect was most likely the same in how they perceived the event...thus the spread of the reputation of being able to produce earthquakes...even if it's not exactly true

Originally posted by mentalguy
You seem to think you are right no-matter what. However there is still an infinite amount of information that no one will ever see. Your theory could also be wrong and Einstien's is right. At this moment he is just as right as anyone else.

I am right. Its not my theory, its the theory of modern day scientists all over Asia and Russia....and not only in theory........it has been proven too.......the West are the ones stuck with 1900 science and incomplete Einstein doo doo, worthless Big Bang theories, useless Darwin evolutions theories and tons of more outdated 1800-1900 science.....MWuhHAhahahHAAa HAHHAhahahah

Thank you all for making me laugh me ass off, your quite entertaining lads!

Wake up and smell the Universe kids, its Infinite!

tesla was a genius. there was no way the elite would let him give his inventions to the public. They want the knowledge suppressed

Originally posted by Deano
tesla was a genius. there was no way the elite would let him give his inventions to the public. They want the knowledge suppressed

Yep, the greates genius of the past 150 years. Where is his nobel prize? 99% of the people dont even know who he was.

All because he wanted to offer our world free infinite electricity! The guy died a poor man with no recognition whatsoever.

Screw you oilhogging Elite!!!

Originally posted by Katsu
I am right. Its not my theory, its the theory of modern day scientists all over Asia and Russia....and not only in theory........it has been proven too.......the West are the ones stuck with 1900 science and incomplete Einstein doo doo, worthless Big Bang theories, useless Darwin evolutions theories and tons of more outdated 1800-1900 science.....MWuhHAhahahHAAa HAHHAhahahah

Thank you all for making me laugh me ass off, your quite entertaining lads!

Wake up and smell the Universe kids, its Infinite!

your implication is that Tesla worked in the same field and Einstein and Darwin...which is utterly retarded...unless you're going to show us Tesla's origin of life or Tesla's theoretical physical models for the universe

which you wont cause he didn't try to explain those areas of science

the man worked with magnets and electricity

but you're right about 1 thing...Einstein's theories didn't cover everthing in terms of how the universe interacts but it did provide observable data about alot of things...but up until the so called "theory of everything" there hasn't been anything to explain all interactions...even the grand unified theory wasn't total but it has been used to combine electromagnetism and weak nuclear forces into the so called electroweak forces...the next step to create electrostrong forces

all that stuff bores me though to be honest...

again, where do you live and what university did you attend? that is just a moronic statement. Even random people polled will recognize Nikola Tesla.......they may not remember what he did but they will recognize his name and remember being taught about him. Even the guy changing the oil in your car will be like, "uh...wasn't he some science guy".

taken a poll of laymen the results would be like this:

Einstein
Tesla
Newton

do you live in Denmark or something?

Originally posted by Katsu
Yep, the greates genius of the past 150 years. Where is his nobel prize? 99% of the people dont even know who he was.

All because he wanted to offer our world free infinite electricity! The guy died a poor man with no recognition whatsoever.

Screw you oilhogging Elite!!!

you do realise when you were going on about Russia being at the forefront of Tesla based science while also harping on about the oil controlling elite...the fact that Russia is one of the biggest oil and gas producing countries in the world

besides even if they were using Tesla based electricity generation...it doesn't actually seem to be doing them all that good because their country is and has been in a serious mess for about 15 years

Remember when people thought our earth was flat in the year 1500 and there were people telling them it was round!

Well, its 2008 now and i am telling you: you are WRONG, MISTAKEN and WRONG.

How arrogant do you have to be to think that mankind has discovered everything there is to know. You people seriously think there will be no more new discoveries in physics!?!?

MWuahahah how ignorant!!! I pity the fool

The science of today is the superstition of tomorrow and the genius of today the fool of tomorrow!

probably not much, its the British ive got my eye on, all those so called empty "underground stations" since World wars, but if anything MI6 British secret service likely have all the codes for it

I completely agree with Katsu.
There is a bundle of endless possibilities in every aspect of understanding and those, who "look at worl as they have learned to look at it or have been teched to look at it" will have nothing more of a result that a blind person trying to read an ordinary book. He can feel the book but does't have any clue what's written in it.

Soon everything will change, dramatically, and only open minded people will be able to addpot.

I know they have a material that can absorb microwaves, and is able to make someone somewhat transparent.