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WWH. Midgard Serpent didnt look all that.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
How this goes?

WWH in a stomp.

I think you guys are underestimating the serpent, Thor was pretty much killed fighting it (he was only saved due to a DEM IIRC)

Hulk has a new snakeskin wardrobe.

HULK

WWH

WWH

Hulk

WWH dies with one death strike, WWH CANNOT stand up to thors full power hammer strikes and energy blasts... But just because hes (the hulk???????) people think he can beat anyone... No version of any hulk has been in fights like thor,the serpent or any other hero or bad guy with planet or galaxy destroying power... The writers will not let hulk get hit with THAT kind of power but KMC will... hulks have been beaten by wrecker level people to superman level...HULK WILL NEVER GET TO THAT SERPENT LEVEL... BUT not to some people....SO when thor or some other powerhouse wipes the floor with his azz, I want people to meet me back here.... Hulk beats that serpent?????.. WHAT A JOKE.

Originally posted by james2099
WWH dies with one death strike, WWH CANNOT stand up to thors full power hammer strikes and energy blasts... But just because hes (the hulk???????) people think he can beat anyone... No version of any hulk has been in fights like thor,the serpent or any other hero or bad guy with planet or galaxy destroying power... The writers will not let hulk get hit with THAT kind of power but KMC will... hulks have been beaten by wrecker level people to superman level...HULK WILL NEVER GET TO THAT SERPENT LEVEL... BUT not to some people....SO when thor or some other powerhouse wipes the floor with his azz, I want people to meet me back here.... Hulk beats that serpent?????.. WHAT A JOKE.

You must have missed the title, this is World War Hulk. The one who was as much as millions of times as strong as normal with a healing factor to go along with it.

Feats:
* Twisted back Colossus' arms.
* Temporary slowed down Juggernaut to a virtual standstill after regaining his classic level of powers and bent his helmet from a punch.
* Survived with little effect (although extremely painful) being partially phased into the ground by Kitty Pride.
* Survived being shred with adamantium rounds from military guns and being fully healed within a page.
* Regrew his eyes during his fight with Wolverine within a page or two
* Skin had grown so dense that Wolverine's initial downward attack slash failed to pierce his skin (Wolverine later did manage to cut him several times but Hulk hasn't typically outright resisted a downward slash; this indicates his skin had become much more dense and resistant).
* Survived having his entire mid-section completely blasted out of his back from Strange / Zom (a fraction of a being whom was too much for Eternity himself to handle and had to get the Living Tribunal involved to imprison him).
* Beat Hercules hand to hand, with Hercules admitting Hulk held back and could have easily killed him (the same Hercules who held a planet on his back and drag the entire island of Manhattan like it was nothing, and arm-wrestled Thor in a strength match so powerful it was threating the orbit of the planet itself).
* Survived Ghost Rider's full on attack and shrugged it off.
* Survived Human Torches' full blown Nova Flame while channeled at the same time with a full force lightning bolt from Storm simultaneously with no effect.
* Was strong enough to destroy Invisible Woman's forcefield and knock her out in 2 hits (the same forcefield which penetrated Celestial armor)
* Survived getting an adamantium needle shoved into his brain from Iron Man in the most powerful iteration post-Extremis upgrade of his armor and still easily won the battle.
* Survived being mutated at the genetic level and overcoming it along with a broken neck and being back to normal in several pages.
* Was strong enough to one-shot class 100's such as She-Hulk and one-shot a god. (Ares)
* Went toe to toe with Sentry and reached a virtual stalemate with Bruce beating Bob and then showing just a couple pages later he was fully regenerated and far stronger than even when he was fighting Sentry post-Miek statement.

Fact of the matter is that Hulk's regen was so crazy during WWH that the serpent could pierce his entire body with teeth and he would simply break out and be fully healed again in less than a full page. Top it off Hulk already has experience fighting mystic beings (for example beating on Fin Fang Foom on more than one occasion and tossing him to the moon in one instance). Midgard serpent doesn't have adamantium-sharp level teeth; it's doubtful that he would even be able to pierce Hulk's skin (on top of that we saw how fragile Midgard's teeth were when Thor blew them out with his hammer in their fight).

What can Midgard serpent possibly do to harm him? Swallow him whole - Hulk would simply destroy him from the inside. Bite him - Hulk shatters his teeth. Land on him with his massive body? Don't make me laugh - Hulk in a far far weaker form held up 150 billion tons, a later form held together the crust of the planet Sakaar and casually destroyed a mountain with huge chunks of land ripped from the mantle of the planet itself - and this form is much much stronger.

Hercules has pretty much stalemated Thor on a few occasions in terms of Strength and WWH was far above him.

WWH wins this with nothing less than 10/10.

Hulk.

Normal, pre-WWH levels could stand a chance here, IMO... Hulk is far beyond the brawler that Thor is, and this is a purely physical fight. Where Hulk absolutely rules. Which encompasses the fact that he can't be brought down the same way Thor was... not realistically, given what he's broken out of, healed from, and his base durability level.

Fanboy...

WWH 10/10

Originally posted by Kutulu
You must have missed the title, this is World War Hulk. The one who was as much as millions of times as strong as normal with a healing factor to go along with it.

Feats:
* Twisted back Colossus' arms.
* Temporary slowed down Juggernaut to a virtual standstill after regaining his classic level of powers and bent his helmet from a punch.
* Survived with little effect (although extremely painful) being partially phased into the ground by Kitty Pride.
* Survived being shred with adamantium rounds from military guns and being fully healed within a page.
* Regrew his eyes during his fight with Wolverine within a page or two
* Skin had grown so dense that Wolverine's initial downward attack slash failed to pierce his skin (Wolverine later did manage to cut him several times but Hulk hasn't typically outright resisted a downward slash; this indicates his skin had become much more dense and resistant).
* Survived having his entire mid-section completely blasted out of his back from Strange / Zom (a fraction of a being whom was too much for Eternity himself to handle and had to get the Living Tribunal involved to imprison him).
* Beat Hercules hand to hand, with Hercules admitting Hulk held back and could have easily killed him (the same Hercules who held a planet on his back and drag the entire island of Manhattan like it was nothing, and arm-wrestled Thor in a strength match so powerful it was threating the orbit of the planet itself).
* Survived Ghost Rider's full on attack and shrugged it off.
* Survived Human Torches' full blown Nova Flame while channeled at the same time with a full force lightning bolt from Storm simultaneously with no effect.
* Was strong enough to destroy Invisible Woman's forcefield and knock her out in 2 hits (the same forcefield which penetrated Celestial armor)
* Survived getting an adamantium needle shoved into his brain from Iron Man in the most powerful iteration post-Extremis upgrade of his armor and still easily won the battle.
* Survived being mutated at the genetic level and overcoming it along with a broken neck and being back to normal in several pages.
* Was strong enough to one-shot class 100's such as She-Hulk and one-shot a god. (Ares)
* Went toe to toe with Sentry and reached a virtual stalemate with Bruce beating Bob and then showing just a couple pages later he was fully regenerated and far stronger than even when he was fighting Sentry post-Miek statement.

Fact of the matter is that Hulk's regen was so crazy during WWH that the serpent could pierce his entire body with teeth and he would simply break out and be fully healed again in less than a full page. Top it off Hulk already has experience fighting mystic beings (for example beating on Fin Fang Foom on more than one occasion and tossing him to the moon in one instance). Midgard serpent doesn't have adamantium-sharp level teeth; it's doubtful that he would even be able to pierce Hulk's skin (on top of that we saw how fragile Midgard's teeth were when Thor blew them out with his hammer in their fight).

What can Midgard serpent possibly do to harm him? Swallow him whole - Hulk would simply destroy him from the inside. Bite him - Hulk shatters his teeth. Land on him with his massive body? Don't make me laugh - Hulk in a far far weaker form held up 150 billion tons, a later form held together the crust of the planet Sakaar and casually destroyed a mountain with huge chunks of land ripped from the mantle of the planet itself - and this form is much much stronger.

Hercules has pretty much stalemated Thor on a few occasions in terms of Strength and WWH was far above him.

WWH wins this with nothing less than 10/10.
Originally posted by Zeitgeist
Hulk.

Normal, pre-WWH levels could stand a chance here, IMO... Hulk is far beyond the brawler that Thor is, and this is a purely physical fight. Where Hulk absolutely rules. Which encompasses the fact that he can't be brought down the same way Thor was... not realistically, given what he's broken out of, healed from, and his base durability level.

Huc wins.

Originally posted by Kutulu
You must have missed the title, this is World War Hulk. The one who was as much as millions of times as strong as normal with a healing factor to go along with it.

Feats:
* Twisted back Colossus' arms.
* Temporary slowed down Juggernaut to a virtual standstill after regaining his classic level of powers and bent his helmet from a punch.
* Survived with little effect (although extremely painful) being partially phased into the ground by Kitty Pride.
* Survived being shred with adamantium rounds from military guns and being fully healed within a page.
* Regrew his eyes during his fight with Wolverine within a page or two
* Skin had grown so dense that Wolverine's initial downward attack slash failed to pierce his skin (Wolverine later did manage to cut him several times but Hulk hasn't typically outright resisted a downward slash; this indicates his skin had become much more dense and resistant).
* Survived having his entire mid-section completely blasted out of his back from Strange / Zom (a fraction of a being whom was too much for Eternity himself to handle and had to get the Living Tribunal involved to imprison him).
* Beat Hercules hand to hand, with Hercules admitting Hulk held back and could have easily killed him (the same Hercules who held a planet on his back and drag the entire island of Manhattan like it was nothing, and arm-wrestled Thor in a strength match so powerful it was threating the orbit of the planet itself).
* Survived Ghost Rider's full on attack and shrugged it off.
* Survived Human Torches' full blown Nova Flame while channeled at the same time with a full force lightning bolt from Storm simultaneously with no effect.
* Was strong enough to destroy Invisible Woman's forcefield and knock her out in 2 hits (the same forcefield which penetrated Celestial armor)
* Survived getting an adamantium needle shoved into his brain from Iron Man in the most powerful iteration post-Extremis upgrade of his armor and still easily won the battle.
* Survived being mutated at the genetic level and overcoming it along with a broken neck and being back to normal in several pages.
* Was strong enough to one-shot class 100's such as She-Hulk and one-shot a god. (Ares)
* Went toe to toe with Sentry and reached a virtual stalemate with Bruce beating Bob and then showing just a couple pages later he was fully regenerated and far stronger than even when he was fighting Sentry post-Miek statement.

Fact of the matter is that Hulk's regen was so crazy during WWH that the serpent could pierce his entire body with teeth and he would simply break out and be fully healed again in less than a full page. Top it off Hulk already has experience fighting mystic beings (for example beating on Fin Fang Foom on more than one occasion and tossing him to the moon in one instance). Midgard serpent doesn't have adamantium-sharp level teeth; it's doubtful that he would even be able to pierce Hulk's skin (on top of that we saw how fragile Midgard's teeth were when Thor blew them out with his hammer in their fight).

What can Midgard serpent possibly do to harm him? Swallow him whole - Hulk would simply destroy him from the inside. Bite him - Hulk shatters his teeth. Land on him with his massive body? Don't make me laugh - Hulk in a far far weaker form held up 150 billion tons, a later form held together the crust of the planet Sakaar and casually destroyed a mountain with huge chunks of land ripped from the mantle of the planet itself - and this form is much much stronger.

Hercules has pretty much stalemated Thor on a few occasions in terms of Strength and WWH was far above him.

WWH wins this with nothing less than 10/10. Do you know how many people can do all of those things??? Do you know how many can withstand all of that???? Do you know how many people that could lift that planet that that 150 billion ton mountain chain was on????? By the way... Bad news to you..... HULK NEVER HELD UP THE FULL WEIGHT OF THAT MOUNTAIN... Where on earth do you get that from?? You bank everything on hulks healing factor... Without it hes dead on nearly everything you said... More bad news.... THAT SERPENT GOES BEYOND HULK HEALING FACTOR... NEED PROOF??????

Originally posted by james2099
Do you know how many people can do all of those things??? Do you know how many can withstand all of that???? Do you know how many people that could lift that planet that that 150 billion ton mountain chain was on????? By the way... Bad news to you..... HULK NEVER HELD UP THE FULL WEIGHT OF THAT MOUNTAIN... Where on earth do you get that from?? You bank everything on hulks healing factor... Without it hes dead on nearly everything you said... More bad news.... THAT SERPENT GOES BEYOND HULK HEALING FACTOR... NEED PROOF??????

What are you talking about?

Hulk's gone toe-to-toe with big monsters his whole career, and I'd say he wrecks them on a more regular basis than almost any other hero. Fin-Fang-Foom, giant krakens, Devil Dinosaur, various Mole-Man monsters, Bi-Beast, Xemnu the Titan, etc.

Hulk takes this handily.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
What are you talking about?

Hulk's gone toe-to-toe with big monsters his whole career, and I'd say he wrecks them on a more regular basis than almost any other hero. Fin-Fang-Foom, giant krakens, Devil Dinosaur, various Mole-Man monsters, Bi-Beast, Xemnu the Titan, etc.

Hulk takes this handily. That serpent would wreck all of those at the same time. sentry and juggernaut would never challenge the snake and live to tell the story... neither would everyone else in that story.

Originally posted by Kutulu
You must have missed the title, this is World War Hulk. The one who was as much as millions of times as strong as normal with a healing factor to go along with it.

Feats:
* Twisted back Colossus' arms.
* Temporary slowed down Juggernaut to a virtual standstill after regaining his classic level of powers and bent his helmet from a punch.
* Survived with little effect (although extremely painful) being partially phased into the ground by Kitty Pride.
* Survived being shred with adamantium rounds from military guns and being fully healed within a page.
* Regrew his eyes during his fight with Wolverine within a page or two
* Skin had grown so dense that Wolverine's initial downward attack slash failed to pierce his skin (Wolverine later did manage to cut him several times but Hulk hasn't typically outright resisted a downward slash; this indicates his skin had become much more dense and resistant).
* Survived having his entire mid-section completely blasted out of his back from Strange / Zom (a fraction of a being whom was too much for Eternity himself to handle and had to get the Living Tribunal involved to imprison him).
* Beat Hercules hand to hand, with Hercules admitting Hulk held back and could have easily killed him (the same Hercules who held a planet on his back and drag the entire island of Manhattan like it was nothing, and arm-wrestled Thor in a strength match so powerful it was threating the orbit of the planet itself).
* Survived Ghost Rider's full on attack and shrugged it off.
* Survived Human Torches' full blown Nova Flame while channeled at the same time with a full force lightning bolt from Storm simultaneously with no effect.
* Was strong enough to destroy Invisible Woman's forcefield and knock her out in 2 hits (the same forcefield which penetrated Celestial armor)
* Survived getting an adamantium needle shoved into his brain from Iron Man in the most powerful iteration post-Extremis upgrade of his armor and still easily won the battle.
* Survived being mutated at the genetic level and overcoming it along with a broken neck and being back to normal in several pages.
* Was strong enough to one-shot class 100's such as She-Hulk and one-shot a god. (Ares)
* Went toe to toe with Sentry and reached a virtual stalemate with Bruce beating Bob and then showing just a couple pages later he was fully regenerated and far stronger than even when he was fighting Sentry post-Miek statement.


WWH wins this with nothing less than 10/10.

He didn't slow Juggernaut to a standstill, it bugs me when Hulk fans keep saying that. He was losing the fight (Juggs got in more hits and even crushed Hulk's face into the ground) and being pushed back (clearly seen in the comic) before he moved aside and let Juggs bfr himself.

Still Hulk ftw.

Originally posted by james2099
Do you know how many people can do all of those things??? Do you know how many can withstand all of that???? Do you know how many people that could lift that planet that that 150 billion ton mountain chain was on????? By the way... Bad news to you..... HULK NEVER HELD UP THE FULL WEIGHT OF THAT MOUNTAIN... Where on earth do you get that from?? You bank everything on hulks healing factor... Without it hes dead on nearly everything you said... More bad news.... THAT SERPENT GOES BEYOND HULK HEALING FACTOR... NEED PROOF??????

Hulk did hold up the full weight of the mountain, where did you get he didn't?

Originally posted by Mindset
Hulk did hold up the full weight of the mountain, where did you get he didn't? Because it was a mountain range, Do you think that hulk had that mountain range off the ground???? If hulk held it up then why did thor try to get in??? Hulk braced a small section.. Read the title...TRAPPED UNDER 150 BILLION TONS..... TRAPPED..... If my house caves in and i brace a part of the roof to keep it from crushing my weaker nephew, Does that mean that i held up the roof in the living room,bathrooms,other 4 rooms and garage????... Someone PLEASE post scans of that book so that i can put that lie to rest ONCE AND FOR ALL. HULK HIMSELF TELLS YOU HE DOES NOT HAVE THE FULL WEIGHT.

Originally posted by james2099
Because it was a mountain range, Do you think that hulk had that mountain range off the ground???? If hulk held it up then why did thor try to get in??? Hulk braced a small section.. Read the title...TRAPPED UNDER 150 BILLION TONS..... TRAPPED..... If my house caves in and i brace a part of the roof to keep it from crushing my weaker nephew, Does that mean that i held up the roof in the living room,bathrooms,other 4 rooms and garage????... Someone PLEASE post scans of that book so that i can put that lie to rest ONCE AND FOR ALL. HULK HIMSELF TELLS YOU HE DOES NOT HAVE THE FULL WEIGHT.


Actually the title is, " Beneath one hundred and fifty billion tons stands the Hulk-and he's not happy."

Hulk doesn't say he isn't lifting the whole weight, he says he is bracing it and he still has leverage.

And it says they are beneath billions of tons of stone, but looking at it again Hulk only makes a small pocket, so he is still lifting billions of tons, just not 150.

Originally posted by The Pict
He didn't slow Juggernaut to a standstill, it bugs me when Hulk fans keep saying that. He was losing the fight (Juggs got in more hits and even crushed Hulk's face into the ground) and being pushed back (clearly seen in the comic) before he moved aside and let Juggs bfr himself.

Still Hulk ftw.

I said a virtual standstill - which is still true. I didn't say he fully stopped Juggernaut, the only time he has done that was when he was War. He did momentarily stop the forward momentum of Juggernaut by directing it downwards into the foundation though.

The midgard serpent loses woefully. WWH when weakened and in lava moved the tectonic plates of sakaar. He was pulling trillions( probably much much more) of tons from a stationary position. He got way stronger than that in actual WWH. He continually had his upper torso destroyed in his fight vs zom /strange and did not go down once but koed him in three punches. He went through a friggin black holr and came out better than Surfer He exhausted all the sentrys enrgy without any substantial damge done to him whatsoeva. The same sentry that has easily disposed of terrax using only a fraction of dat enrgy. He also came closer than anyone has ( aside onslaught and himself in another form) to stopping the juggernaut with physical force.

The serpent is going down really hard. He has 0 chance of putting hulk down and 1000 percent chance of getting killed

Regular hulk got choked by a little snake.. his healing factor and durability and great strength did not help him then.... Now WWH is the same hulk but stronger..... He got cut by claws and shreaded by adamantium bullets.... COULD NOT BEAT JUGGERNAUT NOR STOP HIM....Now that little snakes big brother ..... The midgard serpent is 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times more powerful than his little brother.... turned something that even the destroyers best attempts and greatest weapon could not destroy into mush.... The difference between regular hulk and WWH is NOTHING like the difference between the little snake and the big snake...Midgard serpent wins with ease. By the way... all that stuff that people claim that hulk has pulled or lifted would be destroyed by one swing of the serpents tail.

Originally posted by james2099
Regular hulk got choked by a little snake.. his healing factor and durability and great strength did not help him then.... Now WWH is the same hulk but stronger..... He got cut by claws and shreaded by adamantium bullets.... COULD NOT BEAT JUGGERNAUT NOR STOP HIM....Now that little snakes big brother ..... The midgard serpent is 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times more powerful than his little brother.... turned something that even the destroyers best attempts and greatest weapon could not destroy into mush.... The difference between regular hulk and WWH is NOTHING like the difference between the little snake and the big snake...Midgard serpent wins with ease. By the way... all that stuff that people claim that hulk has pulled or lifted would be destroyed by one swing of the serpents tail.

Did you eat paint chips as a child, or were you born that way?

Originally posted by Kutulu
You must have missed the title, this is World War Hulk. The one who was as much as millions of times as strong as normal with a healing factor to go along with it.

Feats:
* Twisted back Colossus' arms.
* Temporary slowed down Juggernaut to a virtual standstill after regaining his classic level of powers and bent his helmet from a punch.
* Survived with little effect (although extremely painful) being partially phased into the ground by Kitty Pride.
* Survived being shred with adamantium rounds from military guns and being fully healed within a page.
* Regrew his eyes during his fight with Wolverine within a page or two
* Skin had grown so dense that Wolverine's initial downward attack slash failed to pierce his skin (Wolverine later did manage to cut him several times but Hulk hasn't typically outright resisted a downward slash; this indicates his skin had become much more dense and resistant).
* Survived having his entire mid-section completely blasted out of his back from Strange / Zom (a fraction of a being whom was too much for Eternity himself to handle and had to get the Living Tribunal involved to imprison him).
* Beat Hercules hand to hand, with Hercules admitting Hulk held back and could have easily killed him (the same Hercules who held a planet on his back and drag the entire island of Manhattan like it was nothing, and arm-wrestled Thor in a strength match so powerful it was threating the orbit of the planet itself).
* Survived Ghost Rider's full on attack and shrugged it off.
* Survived Human Torches' full blown Nova Flame while channeled at the same time with a full force lightning bolt from Storm simultaneously with no effect.
* Was strong enough to destroy Invisible Woman's forcefield and knock her out in 2 hits (the same forcefield which penetrated Celestial armor)
* Survived getting an adamantium needle shoved into his brain from Iron Man in the most powerful iteration post-Extremis upgrade of his armor and still easily won the battle.
* Survived being mutated at the genetic level and overcoming it along with a broken neck and being back to normal in several pages.
* Was strong enough to one-shot class 100's such as She-Hulk and one-shot a god. (Ares)
* Went toe to toe with Sentry and reached a virtual stalemate with Bruce beating Bob and then showing just a couple pages later he was fully regenerated and far stronger than even when he was fighting Sentry post-Miek statement.

Fact of the matter is that Hulk's regen was so crazy during WWH that the serpent could pierce his entire body with teeth and he would simply break out and be fully healed again in less than a full page. Top it off Hulk already has experience fighting mystic beings (for example beating on Fin Fang Foom on more than one occasion and tossing him to the moon in one instance). Midgard serpent doesn't have adamantium-sharp level teeth; it's doubtful that he would even be able to pierce Hulk's skin (on top of that we saw how fragile Midgard's teeth were when Thor blew them out with his hammer in their fight).

What can Midgard serpent possibly do to harm him? Swallow him whole - Hulk would simply destroy him from the inside. Bite him - Hulk shatters his teeth. Land on him with his massive body? Don't make me laugh - Hulk in a far far weaker form held up 150 billion tons, a later form held together the crust of the planet Sakaar and casually destroyed a mountain with huge chunks of land ripped from the mantle of the planet itself - and this form is much much stronger.

Hercules has pretty much stalemated Thor on a few occasions in terms of Strength and WWH was far above him.

WWH wins this with nothing less than 10/10. Why can't you be like this all the time.

WWH easily

I love Kutulu's use of ABC logic.

It's so, whirlish.

Originally posted by llagrok
I love Kutulu's use of ABC logic.

It's so, whirlish.

Kutulu is nothing like Whirly, if that's what you were implying.

Whirly was actually quite a good, logical debater.

Originally posted by Soljer
Kutulu is nothing like Whirly, if that's what you were implying.

Whirly was actually quite a good, logical debater.

Oh you

wwh wins, no need to explain

Originally posted by Kutulu
Did you eat paint chips as a child, or were you born that way? [/QUOTE Do you think that WWH can beat anybody??? Everytime someone says that WWH loses, You mad fanboys come running, Take a look at that thread that was closed... WWH vs the strongest and most powerful superman.... Makes you mad dont it??.. WWH can beat king thor, odin,zeus, LT, the beyonder.... ANYBODY HUH???.... WWH cannot even beat juggernaut but you insist on making him UN-BEATABLE..That snake fought thor at thors best... thor was trying to kill that snake.... Thor has never went at any hulk like that..... IF HE DID???? He would kill any hulk in one blast.....But the writers in all their glory will never put hulk in that position.... fin fang foom?????????? Iron man beat him.......JUGGERNAUT WAS BEATING WWH...... SENTRY????? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!! But you are right.... I must have eaten paint chips to waste my time debating closed mind fanboys who think WWH can beat anybody.... P.S i was hoping i could bait some of you fanboys with that WWH vs the strongest superman thread....but you fanboy fishs did'nt bite..... ... BUT I HAVE THOUSANDS OF OTHER BAITS.... And one day.... ONE DAY SOON.... You will bite.....AND I WILL SINK THAT HOOK SO DEEP INTO YOUR FANBOYS MOUTH THAT YOU WILL BEG TO BE RELEASED......

Originally posted by llagrok
I love Kutulu's use of ABC logic.

It's so, whirlish.

I love how you just toss an insult without contributing to the thread in the slightest manner.

ABC Logic > Norwegian Jaevel morrapuler. Try contributing to a thread for a change, it might actually like you had a modicum of reading ability.

Originally posted by james2099
Originally posted by Kutulu
Did you eat paint chips as a child, or were you born that way?

First off - CAPS LOCK.
Second - use paragraphs. Nobody can read what you write when you sound like an utter tard. This is what you write looks like:

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Originally posted by Kutulu
First off - CAPS LOCK.
Second - use paragraphs. Nobody can read what you write when you sound like an utter tard. This is what you write looks like: [/QUOTMy first catch of the day is a smart fish that was dumb enough to bite....If you could not read what i wrote, How could you respond??... One dumb fish thrown back

Originally posted by james2099
That serpent would wreck all of those at the same time. sentry and juggernaut would never challenge the snake and live to tell the story... neither would everyone else in that story.

All at the same time, huh?

Think you can give an example of either:

A) Any Midgard Serpent style monster dominating the Hulk?

B) The Midgard Serpent doing ANYTHING to suggest he could thrash Fin Fang Foom and an allstar cast of other monsters?

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
All at the same time, huh?

Think you can give an example of either:

A) Any Midgard Serpent style monster dominating the Hulk?

B) The Midgard Serpent doing ANYTHING to suggest he could thrash Fin Fang Foom and an allstar cast of other monsters? A. The little snake that choked out hulk. WWH is over that hulk and the midgard serpent is over that little snake..B..What he would have done to thor if thor was not under that curse.. Thor made fin fang foom look like a fool and so did ironman.

Originally posted by Kutulu
You must have missed the title, this is World War Hulk. The one who was as much as millions of times as strong as normal with a healing factor to go along with it.

Feats:
* Twisted back Colossus' arms.
* Temporary slowed down Juggernaut to a virtual standstill after regaining his classic level of powers and bent his helmet from a punch.
* Survived with little effect (although extremely painful) being partially phased into the ground by Kitty Pride.
* Survived being shred with adamantium rounds from military guns and being fully healed within a page.
* Regrew his eyes during his fight with Wolverine within a page or two
* Skin had grown so dense that Wolverine's initial downward attack slash failed to pierce his skin (Wolverine later did manage to cut him several times but Hulk hasn't typically outright resisted a downward slash; this indicates his skin had become much more dense and resistant).
* Survived having his entire mid-section completely blasted out of his back from Strange / Zom (a fraction of a being whom was too much for Eternity himself to handle and had to get the Living Tribunal involved to imprison him).
* Beat Hercules hand to hand, with Hercules admitting Hulk held back and could have easily killed him (the same Hercules who held a planet on his back and drag the entire island of Manhattan like it was nothing, and arm-wrestled Thor in a strength match so powerful it was threating the orbit of the planet itself).
* Survived Ghost Rider's full on attack and shrugged it off.
* Survived Human Torches' full blown Nova Flame while channeled at the same time with a full force lightning bolt from Storm simultaneously with no effect.
* Was strong enough to destroy Invisible Woman's forcefield and knock her out in 2 hits (the same forcefield which penetrated Celestial armor)
* Survived getting an adamantium needle shoved into his brain from Iron Man in the most powerful iteration post-Extremis upgrade of his armor and still easily won the battle.
* Survived being mutated at the genetic level and overcoming it along with a broken neck and being back to normal in several pages.
* Was strong enough to one-shot class 100's such as She-Hulk and one-shot a god. (Ares)
* Went toe to toe with Sentry and reached a virtual stalemate with Bruce beating Bob and then showing just a couple pages later he was fully regenerated and far stronger than even when he was fighting Sentry post-Miek statement.

Fact of the matter is that Hulk's regen was so crazy during WWH that the serpent could pierce his entire body with teeth and he would simply break out and be fully healed again in less than a full page. Top it off Hulk already has experience fighting mystic beings (for example beating on Fin Fang Foom on more than one occasion and tossing him to the moon in one instance). Midgard serpent doesn't have adamantium-sharp level teeth; it's doubtful that he would even be able to pierce Hulk's skin (on top of that we saw how fragile Midgard's teeth were when Thor blew them out with his hammer in their fight).

What can Midgard serpent possibly do to harm him? Swallow him whole - Hulk would simply destroy him from the inside. Bite him - Hulk shatters his teeth. Land on him with his massive body? Don't make me laugh - Hulk in a far far weaker form held up 150 billion tons, a later form held together the crust of the planet Sakaar and casually destroyed a mountain with huge chunks of land ripped from the mantle of the planet itself - and this form is much much stronger.

Hercules has pretty much stalemated Thor on a few occasions in terms of Strength and WWH was far above him.

WWH wins this with nothing less than 10/10.

Super Hulk fanboy you are.
Please tell me all the issues you named your WWH feats from because I think I missed some of them.

Lastly hulk never held up 150billion tons. This is a big misconception.

It doesnt matter what he held. Thor needs Mjolnir to even have a shot at whinning against the Midgard Serpent. What is Hulk going to do? Piss him off quickier?

This hyperbole that Hulk gets stronger than cosmics all the time is annoying.

Originally posted by h1a8
Super Hulk fanboy you are.
Please tell me all the issues you named your WWH feats from because I think I missed some of them.

Lastly hulk never held up 150billion tons. This is a big misconception.

All you have to do is read WWH to see the feats for yourself. I'm not going to go through and list every issue of WWH, as the feats I mentioned were spread through them. If you chose to deny any one of the bullet points I posted, then by all means attempt to disprove it. If you want to see all the pics you want, check out the Hulk respect threads.

In regards to 150 billion tons - it is not a misconception. The only thing that has been misunderstood about the scan is the reluctance of Hulk bashers to take it as canon because it would place Hulk at a much higher strength level than they are comfortable with.

Original scan:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Supporting_a_mountain_and_destroying_Onslaught.jpg

Updated scan from WWH (showing that he is indeed bracing his body against the 150 billion tons):
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Hulk/100/HULK100010BU.jpg

Example of a lesser Hulk's healing factor:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/Hulk_heal.jpg

Here is Hulk pushing a Warrior Madness Thor (10x normal Thor strength) into the ground with one arm:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Wrestling_a_10x_stronger_Thor_with_a_single_arm.jpg

Hulk as never been as strong as he was during WWH:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/wwhstrongest.jpg

The only reason people get amazed with that number is only if they take seriously the Marvel handbook rating of the top tier range being only in the hundred of tons. And that is wrong. The damn Thing has held hundred of tons before.

And while standing against WMT (in the end) its impressive, that bit about his strength being increased 10 times its something that was never backed on. If anything he just gets more ferocious.

Originally posted by Soljer
Kutulu is nothing like Whirly, if that's what you were implying.

Whirly was actually quite a good, logical debater.

Which is of course why he has more best debater threads about him than anyone on KMC.

Originally posted by Kutulu
I love how you just toss an insult without contributing to the thread in the slightest manner.

ABC Logic > Norwegian Jaevel morrapuler. Try contributing to a thread for a change, it might actually like you had a modicum of reading ability. I don't want to see any more digs against a person's nationality and stop trying to swear in Norwegian.

Originally posted by Kutulu

Original scan:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Supporting_a_mountain_and_destroying_Onslaught.jpg A comic book cover?

You're kidding me...

WWH 10/10.

Grow the **** up.

Kut gets banned? You come on? Hmmm.

Originally posted by Creshosk
A comic book cover?

You're kidding me...

The same thing happens in the comic.

WWH wins

Originally posted by Kutulu
All you have to do is read WWH to see the feats for yourself. I'm not going to go through and list every issue of WWH, as the feats I mentioned were spread through them. If you chose to deny any one of the bullet points I posted, then by all means attempt to disprove it. If you want to see all the pics you want, check out the Hulk respect threads.

In regards to 150 billion tons - it is not a misconception. The only thing that has been misunderstood about the scan is the reluctance of Hulk bashers to take it as canon because it would place Hulk at a much higher strength level than they are comfortable with.

Original scan:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Supporting_a_mountain_and_destroying_Onslaught.jpg

Updated scan from WWH (showing that he is indeed bracing his body against the 150 billion tons):
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Hulk/100/HULK100010BU.jpg

Example of a lesser Hulk's healing factor:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/Hulk_heal.jpg

Here is Hulk pushing a Warrior Madness Thor (10x normal Thor strength) into the ground with one arm:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Wrestling_a_10x_stronger_Thor_with_a_single_arm.jpg

Hulk as never been as strong as he was during WWH:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/wwhstrongest.jpg That cover means nothing, Get it through your head that hulk never braced or lifted the full mountain range.I could show you a comicbook cover where vulcan is choking gladiator but in the book it never happened.

Are you really that stupid? Hulk DID brace part of the mountain with leverage.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Are you really that stupid? Hulk DID brace part of the mountain with leverage. Are you stupid? Part of that mountain range is not the FULL WEIGHT.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/100/secretwars00418ux6.jpg

Reed! Listen,Were in trouble! They dropped a whole mountain on us, Man! IRONMAN AND HULK wedged a space as it LANDED.LANDED LANDED,LANDED, LANDED.........Keeping us from being squashed.... THE MOUNTAIN WAS ON THE GROUND....HULK FANS I AM SORRY, BUT YOUR BOY DID NOT BRACE OR LIFT 150 BILLION TONS..THE END.

Originally posted by james2099
Reed! Listen,Were in trouble! They dropped a whole mountain on us, Man! IRONMAN AND HULK wedged a space as it LANDED.LANDED LANDED,LANDED, LANDED.........Keeping us from being squashed.... THE MOUNTAIN WAS ON THE GROUND....HULK FANS I AM SORRY, BUT YOUR BOY DID NOT BRACE OR LIFT 150 BILLION TONS..THE END. Scans prove you wrong. Why embarrass yourself by arguing otherwise?

What next, you gonna try to convince us water isnt wet?

he held part of a 150 billion ton mountain, implying that if he was lifting around 5 billion tons at the least, is that a small feat?or wat about the time he destroyed the asteroid 2 times bigger than earth by punching it

Originally posted by jks
Scans prove you wrong. Why embarrass yourself by arguing otherwise?

What next, you gonna try to convince us water isnt wet? If you want hulk to lift or brace 150 billion tons because you want so much for him to have done it, Then believe what you want, But look at other posts on here and see that even people who like hulk will tell you that he never braced or lifted the full weight, And what he did brace, HE could not hold it for long....So hes not very strong after all now is he??

Originally posted by james2099
....So hes not very strong after all now is he??



Yeah, he's a weakling.

Originally posted by james2099
If you want hulk to lift or brace 150 billion tons because you want so much for him to have done it, Then believe what you want, But look at other posts on here and see that even people who like hulk will tell you that he never braced or lifted the full weight, And what he did brace, HE could not hold it for long....So hes not very strong after all now is he??

Well he did stop thousands/billions of tons dropped from hundreds of feet high while being in one of his weaker forms, still impressive. So I'd say yes, he is very strong.

Originally posted by Mindset
Well he did stop thousands/billions of tons dropped from hundreds of feet high while being in one of his weaker forms, still impressive. So I'd say yes, he is very strong. I was kidding about the strength thing...... I know hes very strong

midgard serpent for the win

WWHulk FTW

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
WWHulk FTW

how? before hulk could reach the strengh level needed to beat the world serpent, he'd already have been torn in half.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
how? before hulk could reach the strengh level needed to beat the world serpent, he'd already have been torn in half.

Its WWH,,,,,he's already at that strength level.

Originally posted by tkitna
Its WWH,,,,,he's already at that strength level. Juggernaut and those satelites proved hes not, But if you can prove otherwise then feel free to do so.

What, where does it say the MOUNTAIN is 150 billion tons? It say the 150 is what he HELD UP. The whole mountain range could have weighed much more, but only the 150 was getting braced by Hulk.

Never says he's doing anything to the entire mountain.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
What, where does it say the MOUNTAIN is 150 billion tons? It say the 150 is what he HELD UP. The whole mountain range could have weighed much more, but only the 150 was getting braced by Hulk.

Never says he's doing anything to the entire mountain. Hes under the mountain, If the mountain weighted more than 150 billion tons then that new number would have been used....You hear mountain and 150 billion tons so its the mountains weight...That serpent would have thrown the whole thing back at them.

Originally posted by tkitna
Its WWH,,,,,he's already at that strength level.

realy? prove it, it took everything thor had to kill the midgard serpent, and i betcha if thor were to hit wwh with the exact same attack wwhulk would also end up dead but it would be a draw as both would be dead.



prove that wwh at base level can survive that kind of attack from thor. if wwh can survive that then i'd have no qualms in accepting that wwh's base level is already at that level.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
What, where does it say the MOUNTAIN is 150 billion tons? It say the 150 is what he HELD UP. The whole mountain range could have weighed much more, but only the 150 was getting braced by Hulk.

Never says he's doing anything to the entire mountain.

unless my eyes deceive me, it reads, beneath 150 billion tons...it didnt say that hulk was indeed supporting 150 billion tons.

imo, i'd have to say that the entire mountain range was 150 billion tons and hulk was under there somewheres supporting a part of that weight to keep everyone else alive.

but still, even if hulk was just bracing 1% of that weight its still one hell of a strenght feat.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
unless my eyes deceive me, it reads, beneath 150 billion tons...it didnt say that hulk was indeed supporting 150 billion tons.

imo, i'd have to say that the entire mountain range was 150 billion tons and hulk was under there somewheres supporting a part of that weight to keep everyone else alive.

but still, even if hulk was just bracing 1% of that weight its still one hell of a strenght feat. Are we getting the number from the comic book cover?

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
realy? prove it, it took everything thor had to kill the midgard serpent, and i betcha if thor were to hit wwh with the exact same attack wwhulk would also end up dead but it would be a draw as both would be dead.



prove that wwh at base level can survive that kind of attack from thor. if wwh can survive that then i'd have no qualms in accepting that wwh's base level is already at that level.

WWH at base level is still more powerful than any incarnation of Hulk except for World Breaker and War. Why cant you seem to realize that? Also, you say that it took everything Thor had to kill midgard serpent,,,,,so what. Who's to say that everything Thor has is enough to take down WWH? Lesser forms of the Hulk usually put knots on Thors head in the past. I dont see why his strongest version couldnt.

Why dont you start proving that Thor is so much more superior to Hulk before you start making statements that just because Thor had a hard time doing something then it must be impossible for anybody else.

Well, for one Thor never uses his full power against the Hulk the same way he have to against the Serpent. It isent just his strength, its the damn hammer and exotic powers.

This line, however its important to the debate on how wrong it is:

"Why dont you start proving that Thor is so much more superior to Hulk before you start making statements that just because Thor had a hard time doing something then it must be impossible for anybody else."

Its not impossible for folks on his overall power level. But Hulk isent up there on his overall power level. And i dont think anyone with two sides of the brain working, is gullible enough to belive that.

Originally posted by olympian
Well, for one Thor never uses his full power against the Hulk the same way he have to against the Serpent. It isent just his strength, its the damn hammer and exotic powers.

This line, however its important to the debate on how wrong it is:

"Why dont you start proving that Thor is so much more superior to Hulk before you start making statements that just because Thor had a hard time doing something then it must be impossible for anybody else."

Its not impossible for folks on his overall power level. But Hulk isent up there on his overall power level. And i dont think anyone with two sides of the brain working, is gullible enough to belive that.

While I agree that Thor is more versatile with his hammers powers than the Hulk, I still feel he holds his own against Thor. I also feel that the midgard serpent falls in this battle. Without reading this thread again, I believe only you and the other two cronies dispute that.

As for Thor always holding back,,,,i'm sick of hearing that garbage. I cant wait until the Sentry kicks his ass.

Originally posted by olympian
Well, for one Thor never uses his full power against the Hulk the same way he have to against the Serpent. It isent just his strength, its the damn hammer and exotic powers.

This line, however its important to the debate on how wrong it is:

"Why dont you start proving that Thor is so much more superior to Hulk before you start making statements that just because Thor had a hard time doing something then it must be impossible for anybody else."

Its not impossible for folks on his overall power level. But Hulk isent up there on his overall power level. And i dont think anyone with two sides of the brain working, is gullible enough to belive that.
lol, Thor used his greatest weapon Juggernaut and it only pushed him back a step.

Hulk with Strength alone can overcome Juggernaut. he brought him to a screeching HALT - STOP - whilst not really bothered. in overall power Hulk easily exceeds Thor, in versatility Thor is far superior to Hulk. that is all.

when Thor stands upto Onslaught or survives getting his torso torn out, then there might be reason to raise Thor upto Hulk's level, but till then .

Only War Hulk has ever stopped Juggernaut. And that was a massively amped Hulk.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Only War Hulk has ever stopped Juggernaut. And that was a massively amped Hulk.
he was amped from the nexus energies but he was not as powerful as he had been when thumping Onslaught.

WarHulk was also unable to amp himself, because that Hulk didn't have control over the energies he was leaking iirc.

and no, WWH also brought Juggernaut to a halt. that's why the foundations of the mansion where giving way, Juggernaut couldn't move forward.

the exact same thing happened when Thor GodBlasted Juggernaut, Juggernaut could not move forward and so the ground gave way.

the difference is that Hulk wasn't trying hard at all, whilst Thor went all out to make that happen.

If the Serpent employs magic, then he would win.

In a physical bout, he's dead meat.

Originally posted by llagrok
If the Serpent employs magic, then he would win.

In a physical bout, he's dead meat.
umm no, not really.
Zom/Strange employed magic, far beyond Odin/Thor. Hulk can handle that stuff to a very very high degree.

maybe if you're talking about bfr, but as a fight no, magic isn't saving the Midgard Serpent from being torn to shreds in minutes.

Originally posted by tkitna
WWH at base level is still more powerful than any incarnation of Hulk except for World Breaker and War. Why cant you seem to realize that? Also, you say that it took everything Thor had to kill midgard serpent,,,,,so what. Who's to say that everything Thor has is enough to take down WWH? Lesser forms of the Hulk usually put knots on Thors head in the past. I dont see why his strongest version couldnt.

Why dont you start proving that Thor is so much more superior to Hulk before you start making statements that just because Thor had a hard time doing something then it must be impossible for anybody else.

thor has never used his full power on hulk. by using everything hes got, i mean, everything, all his strength, power, asgardian might, blah blah blah....and you honestly believe that hulk would survive an attack like that? very unlikely. why it was so powerful that it turned thor into jello

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
thor has never used his full power on hulk. by using everything hes got, i mean, everything, all his strength, power, asgardian might, blah blah blah....and you honestly believe that hulk would survive an attack like that? very unlikely. why it was so powerful that it turned thor into jello
you honestly think that Thor going all out would kill Hulk?
bfr I can see easily, it's not in question, but killing Hulk?

Thor on his best day, can't even put down Juggernaut. or do anything against Onslaught. how is it so easy for that same Thor, going all out, to kill Hulk who overpowers both Onslaught's physicality (something Thor and dozens of others combined, could not come close to doing) and matches Thor's best performance against Juggernaut with no discernible effort?

Originally posted by llagrok
If the Serpent employs magic, then he would win.

In a physical bout, he's dead meat.

What the hell.....

The Hulk lifted a Tossed a Hulk Killer Humanoid who said he had increased his weight to that of a mountain. He close a fissure on a planet surface.

Originally posted by janus77
you honestly think that Thor going all out would kill Hulk?
bfr I can see easily, it's not in question, but killing Hulk?

Thor on his best day, can't even put down Juggernaut. or do anything against Onslaught. how is it so easy for that same Thor, going all out, to kill Hulk who overpowers both Onslaught's physicality (something Thor and dozens of others combined, could not come close to doing) and matches Thor's best performance against Juggernaut with no discernible effort?

why yes, thor going all out would kill hulk. why do you think they left him out of wwh? coz if he was there, it would just take thor to put hulk down and it would be a very very short book

anyway, back on topic, i just asked for proof that wwh's base level is already at par or greater than the midgar serpent's. its always, "naw! huk is strong! yeah! he'll win! yeah!" and all without proof. give me proof then its a done deal, wwh wins. no proof? then its all hoopla and wwh is not winning against the giant lizard.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
What the hell.....

?

There is no proof that MS is going to beat Hulk

Originally posted by golem370
There is no proof that MS is going to beat Hulk

Uhm, lol?

Originally posted by llagrok
Uhm, lol?

Er I dunno ive read the fight between him and Thor. Maybe im mising something but he just seems like a great big lizard. Big deal.

http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-midgardserpent.html

Originally posted by golem370
http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-midgardserpent.html

Well I dunno about all of that, some of it talks about stuff he was able to back in the day when people still worshipped the gods. When he fought Thor all I saw was him fighting him physically.

Originally posted by tkitna
While I agree that Thor is more versatile with his hammers powers than the Hulk, I still feel he holds his own against Thor.

He should. Thor mainly uses strength against the Hulk, because its a matter of honor for him.

Originally posted by tkitna
I also feel that the midgard serpent falls in this battle. Without reading this thread again, I believe only you and the other two cronies dispute that.

Then only two cronies have read his appeaarances. Shocking isent it?

Ask this on other boards, and look at the answers you get.

Originally posted by tkitna
As for Thor always holding back,,,,i'm sick of hearing that garbage. I cant wait until the Sentry kicks his ass.

It isent a case of holding back, per se. Thor obviously doesnt hold back in the physical sense, but everyone knows thats what he uses against Hulk. His physical migth. How many times has he used otherwise? Almost none? Imagine that.

WWH never stopped Juggernaut. Only War Hulk, who was amp with Celestial tech and energy, and Thor with his Godblast.

Originally posted by olympian

It isent a case of holding back, per se. Thor obviously doesnt hold back in the physical sense, but everyone knows thats what he uses against Hulk. His physical migth. How many times has he used otherwise? Almost none? Imagine that.

I hear this all the time. Let me ask you something. If you were in a fight and was on the verge of losing, but you had the means to win,,,,would you use them? If you had no idea if you were going to live through the battle?

Thor must be a fool then.

Originally posted by tkitna
I hear this all the time. Let me ask you something. If you were in a fight and was on the verge of losing, but you had the means to win,,,,would you use them? If you had no idea if you were going to live through the battle?

Thor must be a fool then.

dude, this is comics, you know fantasy lala land. and in fantasy lala land, honor beats all for honor bound individuals. ie captain america, thor, superman, wonder woman...u know the lot, they fight for honor, justice, blah blah blah. so your point is null and void.

the midgard serpent killed red norvel like just like that and didnt look like it was trying very hard too.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
dude, this is comics, you know fantasy lala land. and in fantasy lala land,

Your right and the Hulk isnt going to lose to the serpent in any comic. He's not losing on this forum either.

Originally posted by tkitna
Your right and the Hulk isnt going to lose to the serpent in any comic. He's not losing on this forum either.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5412/theincrediblehulkv24702ip3.jpg

Do you actually have the fight, or one scan that can easily be taken out of context?

Originally posted by Mindset
Do you actually have the fight, or one scan that can easily be taken out of context?

Give me a moment, the scans are big. Believe it or not, a 20 foot snake choked Hulk unconscious.

Originally posted by tkitna
Your right and the Hulk isnt going to lose to the serpent in any comic. He's not losing on this forum either.

in comics, your probably right.

but at full potential, hulks not winning this. the surpent has earth crushing strength, which it used to kill red norvel easily. and thats quite a feat as red norvel=thor

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1318/page1dt4.th.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/110/page2tk3.th.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5412/theincrediblehulkv24702ip3.th.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8456/theincrediblehulkv24710we3.jpg

I hate clowns.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1318/page1dt4.th.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/110/page2tk3.th.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5412/theincrediblehulkv24702ip3.th.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8456/theincrediblehulkv24710we3.jpg

I hate clowns.



so if little snake squeezed the air outa reg hulk

then big snake squeeze the air outa wwhulk?....hmmmm interesting

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
in comics, your probably right.

but at full potential, hulks not winning this. the surpent has earth crushing strength, which it used to kill red norvel easily. and thats quite a feat as red norvel=thor

The Hulk also has earth crushing strength. Did he not hold together a planet by its tectonic plates? Did he not destroy an astroid larger than the earth with a punch? Did the ground not shake and crumble when WBH took steps?

As for the Hulk being knocked unconscious by a 20 ft. snake,,,,I really dont know what to say to that? Maybe the snake was on roids. Who wrote that mess by the way?

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1318/page1dt4.th.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/110/page2tk3.th.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5412/theincrediblehulkv24702ip3.th.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8456/theincrediblehulkv24710we3.jpg

I hate clowns.

Lol, this is probably the definition of PIS

Originally posted by janus77
umm no, not really.
Zom/Strange employed magic, far beyond Odin/Thor. Hulk can handle that stuff to a very very high degree.

maybe if you're talking about bfr, but as a fight no, magic isn't saving the Midgard Serpent from being torn to shreds in minutes. You mean the fraction of Zom that was tossing Hulk around like a ragdoll until Strange saw the damage he was doing and then fought to get Zom under control when Hulk clobbered him?

Originally posted by tkitna
The Hulk also has earth crushing strength. Did he not hold together a planet by its tectonic plates? Did he not destroy an astroid larger than the earth with a punch? Did the ground not shake and crumble when WBH took steps?

As for the Hulk being knocked unconscious by a 20 ft. snake,,,,I really dont know what to say to that? Maybe the snake was on roids. Who wrote that mess by the way?

really? he did what? j/k

you have to admit, that snake thing was some funny pis stuff.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
really? he did what? j/k

you have to admit, that snake thing was some funny pis stuff.

Ummm, that all happened on panel.

Yes, the snake thing was funny.

Originally posted by tkitna
Ummm, that all happened on panel.

Yes, the snake thing was funny.

yeah, i know it happened on panel. just kidding around

anyways, this is getting old, we've got a lot of hulk feats to go around but the serpent's appearances are few and far inbetween. so, i can probably see hulk winning base on feats but on paper, i'm still not convinced and i still think the midgard serpent can take the hulk. i'll just leave it at that.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo

anyways, this is getting old, we've got a lot of hulk feats to go around but the serpent's appearances are few and far inbetween. so, i can probably see hulk winning base on feats but on paper, i'm still not convinced and i still think the midgard serpent can take the hulk. i'll just leave it at that.

I agree. Cheers buddy!

This forum is just hilarious. People bash on the hulk without even knowing shit about him. Anyone who thinks the hulk wins is then called a fanboy. Indeed the hulk does have his fanboys and he is not versatile but that really does not matter much in this fight. The serpent was attacking thor physically throughout their fight so i dont see why some people dont give hulk a chance. I dont understand why there has been so mch emphasis on whether the hulk supported the entire mountain or not. It is really uneccessary becuse the hulk has way better feats than that. The continued usage of this feat to judge the hulks strength shows the level of ignorance regarding the character. The hulk has overcome the matter antimatter inertia, destroyed an asteroid two times the size of earth in one punch, overcome forces enough to change the orbit of a planet when he fought the stranger . Why people continue to bring up the naturally stupid argument of his base strength not being high enough even though this is WWH who in a weakened state held a planet together while in a weakened state is beyond me. During the actual saga his base strength rose evn higher. WWH showed that his base strengh was right up there and yet people still choose to belittle such feats. He also showed great durability feats as well. For heaven sake went through a blackhole during planet hulk and came out better than the surfer. During WWH he became even more durable. Zom is a being that was too much for Eternity himself and so LT had to be called in. Therefore even if strange channeled 1/1000000 of zoms power he was still far above top tier. WWH was able to take multiple hits THROUGH his torso from this being and heal almost instantly during the fight. Another intersting thing about that fight is that in the time that strangezom took to think about the safety of the people around, the hulk was able to grow to a levl in which he koed someone who was initially far superior to him physically( hence the reason he was pawning hulk so badly) in 3 punches. Yes strange zom stopping was PIS but the feat still shows the levl to which hulk strength can amp in a short period of time. Strange/zom is superior to the midgard serpent and if the hulk can take hits from him and still keep on fighting then the midgard serpent is not putting him down physically.

This fight plays right into the hands of the hulk because it involves him fighting physically and his growing durability/ healing factor and strength
will give him the win.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
why yes, thor going all out would kill hulk. why do you think they left him out of wwh? coz if he was there, it would just take thor to put hulk down and it would be a very very short book

anyway, back on topic, i just asked for proof that wwh's base level is already at par or greater than the midgar serpent's. its always, "naw! huk is strong! yeah! he'll win! yeah!" and all without proof. give me proof then its a done deal, wwh wins. no proof? then its all hoopla and wwh is not winning against the giant lizard.

A weakened WWH held sakkar togethr by moving its tectonic plates( quintillions of tons) when standing in molten lava.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo


so if little snake squeezed the air outa reg hulk

then big snake squeeze the air outa wwhulk?....hmmmm interesting


'cept The Hulk doesn't need to breath, as per pre-Planet Hulk, when he was in orbit about to destroy The God's eye satellite.

i like pancakes

Originally posted by janus77
'cept The Hulk doesn't need to breath, as per pre-Planet Hulk, when he was in orbit about to destroy The God's eye satellite.

hence the

Originally posted by ultimatethor
This forum is just hilarious. People bash on the hulk without even knowing shit about him. Anyone who thinks the hulk wins is then called a fanboy. Indeed the hulk does have his fanboys and he is not versatile but that really does not matter much in this fight. The serpent was attacking thor physically throughout their fight so i dont see why some people dont give hulk a chance. I dont understand why there has been so mch emphasis on whether the hulk supported the entire mountain or not. It is really uneccessary becuse the hulk has way better feats than that. The continued usage of this feat to judge the hulks strength shows the level of ignorance regarding the character. The hulk has overcome the matter antimatter inertia, destroyed an asteroid two times the size of earth in one punch, overcome forces enough to change the orbit of a planet when he fought the stranger . Why people continue to bring up the naturally stupid argument of his base strength not being high enough even though this is WWH who in a weakened state held a planet together while in a weakened state is beyond me. During the actual saga his base strength rose evn higher. WWH showed that his base strengh was right up there and yet people still choose to belittle such feats. He also showed great durability feats as well. For heaven sake went through a blackhole during planet hulk and came out better than the surfer. During WWH he became even more durable. Zom is a being that was too much for Eternity himself and so LT had to be called in. Therefore even if strange channeled 1/1000000 of zoms power he was still far above top tier. WWH was able to take multiple hits THROUGH his torso from this being and heal almost instantly during the fight. Another intersting thing about that fight is that in the time that strangezom took to think about the safety of the people around, the hulk was able to grow to a levl in which he koed someone who was initially far superior to him physically( hence the reason he was pawning hulk so badly) in 3 punches. Yes strange zom stopping was PIS but the feat still shows the levl to which hulk strength can amp in a short period of time. Strange/zom is superior to the midgard serpent and if the hulk can take hits from him and still keep on fighting then the midgard serpent is not putting him down physically.

This fight plays right into the hands of the hulk because it involves him fighting physically and his growing durability/ healing factor and strength
will give him the win.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
yeah, i know it happened on panel. just kidding around

anyways, this is getting old, we've got a lot of hulk feats to go around but the serpent's appearances are few and far inbetween. so, i can probably see hulk winning base on feats but on paper, i'm still not convinced and i still think the midgard serpent can take the hulk. i'll just leave it at that.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Zom is a being that was too much for Eternity himself and so LT had to be called in. Its wasn't a full Zom it was a piece of Zom. And it was taossing hulk around like a rag doll until Dr. Strange saw the damage that was being done and fought to control Zom. That's when Hulk hit him... A cheap shot.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Its wasn't a full Zom it was a piece of Zom. And it was taossing hulk around like a rag doll until Dr. Strange saw the damage that was being done and fought to control Zom. That's when Hulk hit him... A cheap shot.

Later Angel one-shotted Zom/Cho

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Later Angel one-shotted Zom/Cho
a Zom/Cho made of a combination of the depowered Zomling that left Zom/Strange and Amadeus.

remember, the Zomling was looking for a way to regain power, after Strange used up all the power of Zom that he was channeling in fighting Hulk.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Its wasn't a full Zom it was a piece of Zom. And it was taossing hulk around like a rag doll until Dr. Strange saw the damage that was being done and fought to control Zom. That's when Hulk hit him... A cheap shot.
so how many superheroes could "cheap shot" a fraction of Eternity like that?

you might not like the character but, The Hulk's feats are on-panel and damned impressive. trying to diminish them by suggesting "cheap shots" and wotnot, won't take away from the fact that his strength > Zom/Strange's. that Zom/Strange's full power < Hulk's durability and healing.


also remember how Zom/Strange was the one who attacked first, so who got the "cheap shot" in first on whom?

Hulk had to cheapshot a Tiny piece of Zom/Strange to win.

One of the facts.

Originally posted by Ricardo Potter
Hulk had to cheapshot a Tiny piece of Zom/Strange to win.

One of the facts.

It was a tiny piece? How do you know?

Originally posted by Ricardo Potter
Hulk had to cheapshot a Tiny piece of Zom/Strange to win.

One of the facts.
nope, but I can understand your problem with distinguishing fact from opinion. seems to happen to quite a few people who have an innate hate for particular fictional characters.


facts are as follows:
1) Strange tried to talk Hulk down, got his hands mangled
2) Strange's other options became limited by the attack of Hiroim on the mansion
3) Strange called upon the most deadly, most dangerous incantation he had
4) Strange's manservant made repeated protestations about the danger of what Strange intended to do.
5) Zom\Strange attacked first
6) Zom\Strange kept attacking, busting holes through Hulk's chest, ripping his torso through
7) NONE OF THAT AFFECTED HULK
8) Strange realised that he could not control that level of power (the level of power Hulk normally controls)
9) Strange implies that he's never had that level of power before
10) Strange pauses, having accidentally smashed a building down on civilians
11) Hulk smashes Strange, after saving civilians
12) THREE punches from Hulk >>>>> Zom/Strange's durability
13) dozens of attacks from Zom/Strange <<<<<< Hulk's durability and healing.

Originally posted by janus77
6) Zom\Strange kept attacking, busting holes through Hulk's chest, ripping his torso through
7) NONE OF THAT AFFECTED HULK
8) Strange realised that he could not control that level of power (the level of power Hulk normally controls)
9) Strange implies that he's never had that level of power before


This part is especially hilarious.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Its wasn't a full Zom it was a piece of Zom. And it was taossing hulk around like a rag doll until Dr. Strange saw the damage that was being done and fought to control Zom. That's when Hulk hit him... A cheap shot.

I see that you did not read the whole of my post. If you had continued just little bit u would hve seen that right after the part you quoted i went on to explain dat the zomling strange channeled was only a fraction of the power and my comparison with Eternity was only to indicate the power of a full zom( not d one strange channeled) and how powerful only a fraction of him actually is. And yes he was beating the hulk up, i evn admitted in my post how him stopping was PIS. I was however using that example to indicate the hulks immense durability in taking multiple hits from such a powerful charcter. And also considering that it was zom/strange that attacked first i woud not call the hulk striking back at the first available opening a cheapshot especially becuase it only took him 3 punches to down zom strange evn after taking a terrible beating initially

Originally posted by janus77
nope, but I can understand your problem with distinguishing fact from opinion. seems to happen to quite a few people who have an innate hate for particular fictional characters.


facts are as follows:
1) Strange tried to talk Hulk down, got his hands mangled
2) Strange's other options became limited by the attack of Hiroim on the mansion
3) Strange called upon the most deadly, most dangerous incantation he had
4) Strange's manservant made repeated protestations about the danger of what Strange intended to do.
5) Zom\Strange attacked first
6) Zom\Strange kept attacking, busting holes through Hulk's chest, ripping his torso through
7) NONE OF THAT AFFECTED HULK
8) Strange realised that he could not control that level of power (the level of power Hulk normally controls)
9) Strange implies that he's never had that level of power before
10) Strange pauses, having accidentally smashed a building down on civilians
11) Hulk smashes Strange, after saving civilians
12) THREE punches from Hulk >>>>> Zom/Strange's durability
13) dozens of attacks from Zom/Strange <<<<<< Hulk's durability and healing.



I don't hate anyone, I dislike Strange and like Hulk. Unlike you I'm just not blinded by fictional character love.

So because he wasn't finished he wasn't effected?

Also Zom was KOed by Angel with less.

Angel >>>> Hulk.

Originally posted by janus77

remember, the Zomling was looking for a way to regain power, after Strange used up all the power of Zom that he was channeling in fighting Hulk.

Originally posted by janus77
nope, but I can understand your problem with distinguishing fact from opinion. You know from first hand experience.

Originally posted by janus77
seems to happen to quite a few people who have an innate hate for particular fictional characters. Where did I say I hated the hulk? In fact you'll note that that was the only part I objected to. The false portrayal of events.

Originally posted by janus77
facts are as follows:
1) Strange tried to talk Hulk down, got his hands mangled
2) Strange's other options became limited by the attack of Hiroim on the mansion
3) Strange called upon the most deadly, most dangerous incantation he had
4) Strange's manservant made repeated protestations about the danger of what Strange intended to do.
5) Zom\Strange attacked first
6) Zom\Strange kept attacking, busting holes through Hulk's chest, ripping his torso through
7) NONE OF THAT AFFECTED HULKThat's pretty funny. Getting a hole ripped through your chest counts as being uneffected.

Originally posted by janus77
8) Strange realised that he could not control that level of power (the level of power Hulk normally controls) Actually it was the realization of the destruction he was causing. When he saw that the building that fell on hulk almost killed some innocent people that Hulk saved.
Originally posted by janus77
9) Strange implies that he's never had that level of power before
10) Strange pauses, having accidentally smashed a building down on civilians/b] Your order of events is screwed up.

Originally posted by janus77
11) Hulk smashes Strange, after saving civilians
12) THREE punches from Hulk >>>>> Zom/Strange's durability
13) dozens of attacks from Zom/Strange <<<<<< Hulk's durability and healing. It wasn't dozens of attacks. There was an inital strike I think, thenI recall the attack that put Strange's hands through hulk's chest and he got flung into a building which collapsed and Hulk being the hero that he is saved the civvies.

Originally posted by janus77
You got a few of your facts screwed up and/or out of order. Its funny how many trivial things you added to try and boilster your numbers, and how anyone whom disagrees with you obviously hates the Hulk.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
I see that you did not read the whole of my post. If you had continued just little bit u would hve seen that right after the part you quoted i went on to explain dat the zomling strange channeled was only a fraction of the power and my comparison with Eternity was only to indicate the power of a full zom( not d one strange channeled) and how powerful only a fraction of him actually is. And yes he was beating the hulk up, i evn admitted in my post how him stopping was PIS. I wouldn't call it PIS. It was actually a pretty good way to resolve the fight. It might be considered CIS... but I don't consider not wanting to hurt people stupid.

Originally posted by janus77
I was however using that example to indicate the hulks immense durability in taking multiple hits from such a powerful charcter. And also considering that it was zom/strange that attacked first i woud not call the hulk striking back at the first available opening a cheapshot especially becuase it only took him 3 punches to down zom strange evn after taking a terrible beating initially I'd call striking an opponent when hes fighting to control the entity inside of him a cheap shot yes. At that point strange was not trying to fight the hulk. He was trying to stop the destruction he was causing.

We don't know how much of it was Strange and how much was Zom. Taking three punches to take out strange would be low, taking three to take out Zom is pretty damned impressive. But we don't know the balance of Strange to Zom.

Originally posted by Creshosk

I wouldn't call it PIS. It was actually a pretty good way to resolve the fight. It might be considered CIS... but I don't consider not wanting to hurt people stupid.

I'd call striking an opponent when hes fighting to control the entity inside of him a cheap shot yes. At that point strange was not trying to fight the hulk. He was trying to stop the destruction he was causing.

We don't know how much of it was Strange and how much was Zom. Taking three punches to take out strange would be low, taking three to take out Zom is pretty damned impressive. But we don't know the balance of Strange to Zom.

Well yeah maybe CIS.

And no it was not a cheap shot. Strange had stopped fighting the hulk but who was to say that he would not continue s he had been doing in a few seconds. What was the hulk to do ? wait for him to continue the betng before attacking? In a situation in which two characters are fighting head to head and one character gets an opportunity to punch based on the other charcters foolishness or mistakes it is not a cheap shot. The mark of a good fighter is to be able to capitalize on your opponents mistakes. Its not like the hulk hit im from behind or hit zom strange without being provoked. Zom was whacking the hulk the hulk took it and when he got the chance retaliated.

We obviously know that the portion of zom was stranges last and most pwerful weapon. We also know that the portion of zom was powerful enough to give strange the strength to easily manhandle the most powerful version of hulk physically( and considering this hulk had held a planet together zom strange must have been pretty strong). Therefore it would not be hard to put this version of zom far above the likes of thor physically. However in addition to taking loads of hits from this monster( hits more powerful than the midgard serpent can dish out) the hulk did amp his strengh enough to take out zomstrange in 3 punches and that is very impressive on all accounts.

Originally posted by Ricardo Potter
I don't hate anyone, I dislike Strange and like Hulk. Unlike you I'm just not blinded by fictional character love.

So because he wasn't finished he wasn't effected?

Also Zom was KOed by Angel with less.

Angel >>>> Hulk.

A.J, go home!

Also considering the kind of pwer strange has harnesed him being unable to control such power shows how powerful the portion of zom actually was

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Also considering the kind of pwer strange has harnesed him being unable to control such power shows how powerful the portion of zom actually was

Not really, it shows the amount of influence the portion Zom had on him. Cho was infused with the same portion, yet Angel one-shotted him.

The zomling was looking for a way to regain power by the time he infested cho as the power had been used up in the hulk fight

Originally posted by ultimatethor
The zomling was looking for a way to regain power by the time he infested cho as the power had been used up in the hulk fight

Proof? 313

Originally posted by llagrok
Proof? 313

Isnt being one shotted by Angel enough?

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Isnt being one shotted by Angel enough?

Nope.

For all we know, the one who's possessed by Zom gets incredible offensive capabilities and horrible defensive ones.

Your statement is based on speculation.

Originally posted by llagrok
A.J, go home! You have me confused with someone who cares what you say.

Originally posted by llagrok
Nope.

For all we know, the one who's possessed by Zom gets incredible offensive capabilities and horrible defensive ones.

Your statement is based on speculation.

Not speculation but a logical inference. The zomling was said to have a fraction of zoms power. Normally dat means a fraction of the entire thing hence a fraction of zoms durability should be pretty good. Also considering the extremely large strength diffeence between hulk and angel it should have taken a casual flick from the hulk to knock him out.

Also strange was actually willingly channeling the powers of the zomling. However the zomling having already used up alot of power in the hulk fight possesed cho and was simply using her body as a host BIG DIFFERENCE

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Isnt being one shotted by Angel enough?

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Not speculation but a logical inference. The zomling was said to have a fraction of zoms power. Normally dat means a fraction of the entire thing hence a fraction of zoms durability should be pretty good. Also considering the extremely large strength diffeence between hulk and angel it should have taken a casual flick from the hulk to knock him out.

Also strange was actually willingly channeling the powers of the zomling. However the zomling having already used up alot of power in the hulk fight possesed cho and was simply using her body as a host BIG DIFFERENCE

Speculation.

Originally posted by llagrok
Speculation.

LOGICAL INFERENCE!!

And really dont u htink it a bit far ftched to say that he was awarded with great attacking capabilities but such weak durability that he could be oneshotted by Angel?

speculation

Originally posted by llagrok
speculation

Sigh

Originally posted by llagrok
Speculation.

Right so Things gets into a fight with Hulk and then gets KOed by Spiderman its sepculation to think that his fight with Hulk made him weaker?

Of course its speculation.

Dr Strange: Wow im in deep **** here looks like im going to need the power of a really powerful being.....a being so powerful that it can be one-shoted by Angel. Yeah thats what i'll do. Im only going to do battle with Hulk so im not going to need alot of durability. dur

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Right so Things gets into a fight with Hulk and then gets KOed by Spiderman its sepculation to think that his fight with Hulk made him weaker?

Of course its speculation.

Dr Strange: Wow im in deep **** here looks like im going to need the power of a really powerful being.....a being so powerful that it can be one-shoted by Angel. dur

Your analogy is based on speculation

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Your analogy is based on speculation

Yeah for all we know Thing could have had the flu.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah for all we know Thing could have had the flu.

Very possible

Great debate on both sides

Still like WWH FTW

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I think you guys are underestimating the serpent, Thor was pretty much killed fighting it (he was only saved due to a DEM IIRC)
Actually, Thor was "liquified" when he fought the serpent.

Hulk has no chance. He can't move like Thor did, and he has no tricks that have anything to do with this opponent.

He stands on the ground, jumps once in a while, and gets killed.

End of story.