Blade vs. Ironfist

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Faceman
Most current versions of each character. Fights in some warehouse.......

Soljer
Danny.

Galan007
I agree with the fanboy. peaches

dat_boi
Blade

guy222
IF

snoopdogg
Blade.

BruceSkywalker
Can I vampire survive the Iron Fist?

Battlehammer
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blade.
......what..........how..............have you read current IF...............agg

snoopdogg
Originally posted by Battlehammer
......what..........how..............have you read current IF...............agg No, I threw up after the first issue.

Mr. Slippyfist
Fist.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by snoopdogg
No, I threw up after the first issue.
lol he vastly beyond blade now.









so im not the only one who thinks they have really boosted him a lot.

Galan007
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Fist. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/180px-Spiderman_gets_rammed.jpg



droolio

Zeitgeist
Originally posted by snoopdogg
No, I threw up after the first issue. ...

no expression

DestinyGuy678
I believe blade could come out on top if he played his cards right

Mindset
Originally posted by Zeitgeist
...

no expression

Anything that requires any level of intelligence makes him sick, so reading is a problem unfortunately. sad

NiņoAraņa
Originally posted by snoopdogg
No, I threw up after the first issue. you fail.

completely.

batdude123
Originally posted by Galan007
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/180px-Spiderman_gets_rammed.jpg



droolio

hysterical2

complexbrother
Blade .

he's nearly as skilled and have superhuman stats to back him up .

Battlehammer
..................................................................man you have an awful habit of being w3o#g

Battlehammer

tkitna
IF

Etrigan
Danny.

YFZ 350
Blade should win. He should have most edges minus skills. But hunting and killing Vampires for 70 years should give Blade a experience edge.

Soljer
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Blade should win. He should have most edges minus skills. But hunting and killing Vampires for 70 years should give Blade a experience edge.

Except for the fact that Danny's superhumanly strong and fast.

And is a few magnitudes more skilled.

YFZ 350
Originally posted by Soljer
Except for the fact that Danny's superhumanly strong and fast.

And is a few magnitudes more skilled. I realize that. But so is Blade. Plus he has a minor healing factor which enables him to take alot of punishment during battle. I could see Blade chopping his 'fist' off actually.

Just because Danny may know more styles does not equate to much, other than he....well just knows more styles. Blade surely has the experience edge I would think.

Either way it will be a good match. I'd just put my money on Blade.

Soljer
Originally posted by YFZ 350
I realize that. But so is Blade. Plus he has a minor healing factor which enables him to take alot of punishment during battle. I could see Blade chopping his 'fist' off actually.

Just because Danny may know more styles does not equate to much, other than he....well just knows more styles. Blade surely has the experience edge I would think.

Either way it will be a good match. I'd just put my money on Blade.

Danny beat someone who trained for multiple millenia solely to beat him.

I don't think a few extra years of spiking weak-ass vampires is going to make a difference.

YFZ 350
Originally posted by Soljer
Danny beat someone who trained for multiple millenia solely to beat him.

I don't think a few extra years of spiking weak-ass vampires is going to make a difference. Sounds like the guy was cannon fodder, and should have trained a little harder.

Mindset
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Sounds like the guy was cannon fodder, and should have trained a little harder.

Sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.

Chop his iron fist off...are you serious?

YFZ 350
Originally posted by Mindset
Sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.

Chop his iron fist off...are you serious? Are you saying it's impossible to do so?

DestinyGuy678
blade does see everything in slow motion he might be faster than iron fist

tkitna
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
blade does see everything in slow motion he might be faster than iron fist

He better be real fast then.

http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grsp30coyy7.jpg

Mindset
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Are you saying it's impossible to do so?

Well aside from the fact the blade would break, IF is fast enough to catch bullets...

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/IRF_Annual_1_DCP_0043.jpg

snoopdogg
I think he meant Blade can slicde his arm off or even at the elbow. Unless Danny is nigh-invulerabity now I think that would work.

And besides Blade's got bullet fast reaction also.

Blade ducks under point blank gunfire then slices the vamps gun-hand off:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blasttossinstars.jpg

Blocks some gun-fire with a chain:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladespeedNS10.jpg

snoopdogg
Originally posted by tkitna
He better be real fast then.

http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grsp30coyy7.jpg Blade's pretty fast. I'd wager Blade is the faster of the two.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladespeedBlade3.jpg

tkitna
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blade's pretty fast. I'd wager Blade is the faster of the two.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladespeedBlade3.jpg

Ehhh, I cant say one way or the other. They both have similar speed feats.

Dark-Jaxx
Originally posted by Galan007
I agree with the fanboy. peaches I haven't even posted yet.

I give the edge SLIGHTLY to Blade.

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by tkitna
Ehhh, I cant say one way or the other. They both have similar speed feats. I've never seen ironfist move so fast that he left an after image

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by tkitna
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grsp30coyy7.jpg

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I saw that one, he was dodging th ebullet though, I think blades took more speed, to actually look like he was in two places at once

tkitna
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
I've never seen ironfist move so fast that he left an after image

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bdbdbd3kx.jpg

http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbltz2mp.jpg

http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=agilgoons4wq.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hulkblitz3iy.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blitzescopsej2.jpg

http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist0805kq7.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/Fist/Iron_Fist_Annual_1_0045.jpg

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by tkitna
http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bdbdbd3kx.jpg

http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbltz2mp.jpg

http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=agilgoons4wq.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hulkblitz3iy.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blitzescopsej2.jpg

http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist0805kq7.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/Fist/Iron_Fist_Annual_1_0045.jpg
ok they look to be about the same in terms of speed and strength it really comes down to skill

Mindset
Danny can blast Blade with his chi, he doesn't actually have to hit him with his fist: http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/10.jpg

Danny has enhanced senses, I know Blade does as well, I just want to show Blade isn't going to be sneaking up on him: http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/IMF_9_DCP_0006.jpg
(Also shows he has a poison touch move)

Can hypnotize with his chi:
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Immortal_Iron_Fist_004_008.jpg

Easily dodges automatic fire from one attacker: http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/IRF_Annual_1_DCP_0045.jpg

Easily dodges automatic fire from about 12 people who have him laser sighted, and one person with a handgun who is a couple feet away: http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/28.jpg


Danny absorbs all of Orson Randall's chi, a past Iron Fist: http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Immortal_Iron_Fist_006_016.jpg

He then fights Davos, here is a display of Davos abilities: http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Immortal_Iron_Fist_006_012.jpg

Danny stalemates him: http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Immortal_Iron_Fist_006_019.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/Immortal_Iron_Fist_006_020.jpg

norrinradd43
Rand takes home the Stanley Cup

YFZ 350
When Wolverine escaped custody of Shield their tactitions pegged Blade out of the entire 50 state Intitiative as has having the best shot and bringing him back in. That's pretty big imo considering the talent level they had to choose from.

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by YFZ 350
When Wolverine escaped custody of Shield their tactitions pegged Blade out of the entire 50 state Intitiative as has having the best shot and bringing him back in. That's pretty big imo considering the talent level they had to choose from. he was on the verge of killing wolverine too

Mindset
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
he was on the verge of killing wolverine too

Scans?

Mindset
Originally posted by YFZ 350
When Wolverine escaped custody of Shield their tactitions pegged Blade out of the entire 50 state Intitiative as has having the best shot and bringing him back in. That's pretty big imo considering the talent level they had to choose from.

Doesn't mean they were right. big grin

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Mindset
Scans?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladevsWolverine6.jpg

Symmetric Chaos
Blade got owned . . .

YFZ 350
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladevsWolverine6.jpg Wolverine knew he was f*cked. That's why he didn't retaliate.

Mindset
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Wolverine knew he was f*cked. That's why he didn't retaliate.

Yea, that's exactly what happened...

That's why Wolverine was smiling and Blade looked scared. wink

Mindset
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
he was on the verge of killing wolverine too

From your scans it looked like he was losing to Wolverine and had to resort to a plot device, the vial, and even then it's not like that would have won the fight for Blade...being a Vampire is technically dead, but you realize he would just turn into a Vampire right, he could still fight.

Also there is no guarantee it would have worked, Wolverine's healing factor has resisted being taken over by a symbiote.

YFZ 350
Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, that's exactly what happened...

That's why Wolverine was smiling and Blade looked scared. wink LOL.

Anyways that look on Blade's face isn't him being scared. That's when he recognized Wolverine from time they met back in the old days.

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, that's exactly what happened...

That's why Wolverine was smiling and Blade looked scared. wink yeah exactly what he said, blade realized all of a sudden he knew wolverine who had saved him some 60 years ago from death,

wolverine just doesnt fear death, even if he was vamped and staked he'd find someway to come back (wolverine just doesnt fear death)

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Mindset
From your scans it looked like he was losing to Wolverine and had to resort to a plot device, the vial, and even then it's not like that would have won the fight for Blade...being a Vampire is technically dead, but you realize he would just turn into a Vampire right, he could still fight.

Also there is no guarantee it would have worked, Wolverine's healing factor has resisted being taken over by a symbiote.
a symbiote and being a vampire are 2 very different things I could use the marvel zombies as an example (they are canon, just in a spererate universe)

and no he wasn't losing they both acknowledge that they are equals (wolveirne reasons for letting him leave after blade recognizes him)

and being a vampire he would lose most of his skill (which is how blade easily took out a vampire spiderman)

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
(they are canon, just in a spererate universe)

Being in a different universe is what makes MarvelZombies noncanon.

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Being in a different universe is what makes MarvelZombies noncanon. it means they are two different wolverines, yet it is a canon universe, since the black panther and fantastic four travelled to that universe

Superherovandal
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
it means they are two different wolverines, yet it is a canon universe, since the black panther and fantastic four travelled to that universe However that universe's characters might be at different power levels.

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Superherovandal
However that universe's characters might be at different power levels.
yes, despite that the scan proves blade could've killed wolverine, and is equal in fighting skill with him (that is one of blades weakest incarnations as well)

Mindset
When was Spiderman a vampire? You realize we are using 616 characters, right?

A symbiote is similar to vampirism because they are both viruses in a sense, and his healing factor was fighting it off. Marvel Zombies is an alternate universe with an alternate Wolverine. That's like comparing Ultimate Wolverine to 616 and saying they're the same.

Vampire Wolverine would not be any easier to beat than regular Wolverine, what is Blade gonna do, stake him through his adamantium sternum?

In the scan you posted Wolverine was smiling and Blade looked scared, I don't know where you got Blade was winning that fight or was even with Wolverine.

Don Mega
Originally posted by Mindset
When was Spiderman a vampire? You realize we are using 616 characters, right? It was 616 Spiderman. You should read a Blade comic.
Originally posted by Mindset

A symbiote is similar to vampirism because they are both viruses in a sense, and his healing factor was fighting it off. Marvel Zombies is an alternate universe with an alternate Wolverine. That's like comparing Ultimate Wolverine to 616 and saying they're the same. Dracula bit Wolverine and his healing factor didn't help him from loosing control to Dracula.
Originally posted by Mindset

Vampire Wolverine would not be any easier to beat than regular Wolverine, what is Blade gonna do, stake him through his adamantium sternum? What? Vampire Wolverine would be susceptible to garlic, sunlight, silver etc. Blade carries that stuff with him. It goes with the job.
Originally posted by Mindset

In the scan you posted Wolverine was smiling and Blade looked scared, I don't know where you got Blade was winning that fight or was even with Wolverine. Are you paying attention to what they said? He wasn't scared! He realized he owed Logan one from awhile back.

jinzin
Originally posted by YFZ 350
When Wolverine escaped custody of Shield their tactitions pegged Blade out of the entire 50 state Intitiative as has having the best shot and bringing him back in. That's pretty big imo considering the talent level they had to choose from.

They used Blade because all their real talent was out fighting Captain America and his people. no expression

snoopdogg
Yea, that was a 24 hour a day job. wacko

Mindset
Originally posted by Don Mega
It was 616 Spiderman. You should read a Blade comic.
Dracula bit Wolverine and his healing factor didn't help him from loosing control to Dracula.
What? Vampire Wolverine would be susceptible to garlic, sunlight, silver etc. Blade carries that stuff with him. It goes with the job.
Are you paying attention to what they said? He wasn't scared! He realized he owed Logan one from awhile back.

Yea, I asked when the Spiderman thing happened, do you have any scans or a comic number?

Was Wolverine turned into a vampire when Dracula bit him, did Dracula bite him anytime within the last 5 or so years when Logan's hf is stronger than say the 80's? Again, scans or a comic number?

Ok, if Blade infected Wolverine, Wolverine could have just killed him in that instant.

Anyway, what does Blade having to infect Wolverine in an attempt to win have to do with Iron Fist?

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, I asked when the Spiderman thing happened, do you have any scans or a comic number?

Was Wolverine turned into a vampire when Dracula bit him, did Dracula bite him anytime within the last 5 or so years when Logan's hf is stronger than say the 80's? Again, scans or a comic number?

Ok, if Blade infected Wolverine, Wolverine could have just killed him in that instant.

Anyway, what does Blade having to infect Wolverine in an attempt to win have to do with Iron Fist?
actually recently I believe wolverine healing factor has had a dramtic decrease in power

and check out the respect thread, spiderman was turned in the very first issue

you should really check out the respect thread

jinzin
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea, that was a 24 hour a day job. wacko
considering it was a WAR.. yeah. erm

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by jinzin
considering it was a WAR.. yeah. erm
and the ycouldve just as easily got someone to hunt wolverine, the ychose blade

blade also has a healing factor to help him in this fight so he is probably more durable than ironfist

jinzin
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Wolverine knew he was f*cked. That's why he didn't retaliate.

Wait.. wha? Since when has that been anything more than the one sided Blade ass whippin I remember it and turn into something to actually try and accredit the character with as win? What the f**k?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
yes, despite that the scan proves blade could've killed wolverine, and is equal in fighting skill with him (that is one of blades weakest incarnations as well)

laughing out loud

Oh is that so?... Well then here: You tell me at which point Blade proved he was anywhere NEAR Wolverine in terms of being an equally skilled fighter.
1. http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6048/blade1br9.jpg
2. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5559/blade2gr2.jpg
3. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5953/blade3jk6.jpg
4. http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/995/blade4ev2.jpg
5. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8589/blade5md8.jpg

Was it when Wolverine tore his jacket with two warning slashes instead of killing him right off the bat?
Was it when Wolverine nicked him in the face with his claws or when he punched him in the face without them?
Had a clawless fist at Blades face.
Or when he pinned him to the ground by one hand while threatening to bring down the other?

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Yeah Blade could've killed him.. y'know since they were equals an' all. laughing out loud
About that; Wolverine could have outright killed Blade at that point with a single claw strike but opted not to. You honeslty think Blade could have taken Logan's mask off, injected him with the vamp serum, got out a stake, AND successfully staked him before Wolverine could bring down one arm? That's ludicrous. PERIOD.

I mean as you pointed out Wolverine's been bitten by Dracula and it only turned him for a few minutes. Since his secondary mutation his HF is multitudes faster than it was back then. Even with his current status it's over 3 times better than before AT LEAST. Now all he needed was one good claw strike, while Blade would not only have to get off his back and pull out a stake, but insert a stake into his heart in spite of his Adamantium ribcage/chestplate there to stop him from doing just that.

There's a reason why Wolverine's grinning at the end of that fight, and it's not because they're "equals" pffftbwahaha! That's JUST as absurd!

"We're too evenly matched"? PUH-LEASE. Wolverine curbstomped you Blade. He railed through your ass that whole fight.

That was nothing short of some Black Pantheresque bravado like "I was in no danger" when Sabretooth had him by the throat and was drawing blood.

Wolverine's one of the three top competetors for Marvel Earth's number one h2h fighter, Blade doesn't even make top 10.

Likewise, Iron Fist would decimiate Blade. Blade's not faster, or anywhere NEAR as skilled as Iron Fist. Iron Fist can shatter.. not bend, dent, or rend through, but f*cking shatter steel with an Iron Fist punch.... One hit is all he needs to end this fight... Unless of course you think Blade's also more durable than Luke Cage.

Blade doesn't fight flawlessly, Danny does. And, with is current upgrades? This might be an even worse stomp than his fight with Wolverine was. erm

DestinyGuy678
so I shoul take your word over the words of the comic itself

the fact taht was a weakened blade that stalemated wolverine, I can say yes blade is equal to wolverine

blade previous feats of super huma nspeed and strength all on par with ironfist leads me to believe blade can easily take this just as easily as ironfist could

...I havent seen any scans and such for ironfist that actually prove he is any better than blade

snoopdogg
You must have had the special edition book Jinzin. The Wolverine fan-club edition that is.

If I had more time on my hands I'd take your post apart. But I have a life I must attend to.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda.......

Symmetric Chaos
Wolvie was dominating the fight after having just had another one . . .

Anyway Danny would destroy blade currently.

jinzin
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
so I shoul take your word over the words of the comic itself

There was no impartial narrative.
The only one who thought Blade could take Wolverine was Blade. Given the entire fight that happened.. He's wrong about that.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the fact taht was a weakened blade that stalemated wolverine, I can say yes blade is equal to wolverine
There was no stalemate. Blade got stomped.. He injected a serum into Wolverine who wasn't attacking him.
And let's face it not only was Wolverine holdng back against Blade because he recognized him but Wolverine also just got back from fighting Omega Red for what's inplied to have been a long duration of time... Blade couldn't "stalemate" a holding back Logan who was actually weakened.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
blade previous feats of super huma nspeed and strength all on par with ironfist leads me to believe blade can easily take this just as easily as ironfist could
If he's on par in strength and speed but severly limited vs. Iron Fist in stopping power, skill, and ranged attacks he's gonna lose... and he is.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
...I havent seen any scans and such for ironfist that actually prove he is any better than blade Yeah well you DID see Blade "stalemate" Logan with your rampant bias so that's not surprising.

jinzin
Originally posted by snoopdogg
You must have had the special edition book Jinzin. The Wolverine fan-club edition that is.

If I had more time on my hands I'd take your post apart. But I have a life I must attend to.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda.......

Says the guy sportin Blade in his sig...
pffft.. roll eyes (sarcastic)
Whatever; too bad that's the only version that exists.

Don Mega
Originally posted by jinzin
Wait.. wha? Since when has that been anything more than the one sided Blade ass whippin I remember it and turn into something to actually try and accredit the character with as win? What the f**k?



laughing out loud

Oh is that so?... Well then here: You tell me at which point Blade proved he was anywhere NEAR Wolverine in terms of being an equally skilled fighter.
1. http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6048/blade1br9.jpg
2. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5559/blade2gr2.jpg
3. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5953/blade3jk6.jpg
4. http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/995/blade4ev2.jpg
5. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8589/blade5md8.jpg

Was it when Wolverine tore his jacket with two warning slashes instead of killing him right off the bat?
Was it when Wolverine nicked him in the face with his claws or when he punched him in the face without them?
Had a clawless fist at Blades face.
Or when he pinned him to the ground by one hand while threatening to bring down the other?

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Yeah Blade could've killed him.. y'know since they were equals an' all. laughing out loud
About that; Wolverine could have outright killed Blade at that point with a single claw strike but opted not to. You honeslty think Blade could have taken Logan's mask off, injected him with the vamp serum, got out a stake, AND successfully staked him before Wolverine could bring down one arm? That's ludicrous. PERIOD.

I mean as you pointed out Wolverine's been bitten by Dracula and it only turned him for a few minutes. Since his secondary mutation his HF is multitudes faster than it was back then. Even with his current status it's over 3 times better than before AT LEAST. Now all he needed was one good claw strike, while Blade would not only have to get off his back and pull out a stake, but insert a stake into his heart in spite of his Adamantium ribcage/chestplate there to stop him from doing just that.

There's a reason why Wolverine's grinning at the end of that fight, and it's not because they're "equals" pffftbwahaha! That's JUST as absurd!

"We're too evenly matched"? PUH-LEASE. Wolverine curbstomped you Blade. He railed through your ass that whole fight.

That was nothing short of some Black Pantheresque bravado like "I was in no danger" when Sabretooth had him by the throat and was drawing blood.

Wolverine's one of the three top competetors for Marvel Earth's number one h2h fighter, Blade doesn't even make top 10.

Likewise, Iron Fist would decimiate Blade. Blade's not faster, or anywhere NEAR as skilled as Iron Fist. Iron Fist can shatter.. not bend, dent, or rend through, but f*cking shatter steel with an Iron Fist punch.... One hit is all he needs to end this fight... Unless of course you think Blade's also more durable than Luke Cage.

Blade doesn't fight flawlessly, Danny does. And, with is current upgrades? This might be an even worse stomp than his fight with Wolverine was. erm I agree Wolverine should beat Blade or most street levelers including Iron Fist. But I don't agree with your biased view on the fight. It was closer than that and to be honest Guggenheim's Wolverine was pretty ubber iirc.

Wolverine even stated he was tired and pissed at the start of the fight. But his massive healing factor should have taken care of most of his injuries he suffered against Omega Red. Wolverine had him on the ground holding him with one hand and getting ready to kill him with the other but Blade put the vial to his kneck and Logan stopped his attack. Then he let Blade go. Why the hell would Logan let somebody go who just tried to kill him?

jinzin
Originally posted by Don Mega
I agree Wolverine should beat Blade or most street levelers including Iron Fist. But I don't agree with your biased view on the fight. It was closer than that and to be honest Guggenheim's Wolverine was pretty ubber iirc.

None of that was bias. That's all exactly what happened.. Exactly.

Originally posted by Don Mega
Wolverine even stated he was tired and pissed at the start of the fight. But his massive healing factor should have taken care of most of his injuries he suffered against Omega Red.
Wolverine's healing factor does not work off of infinity. Wolverine needs rest, food, and time in between receiving wounds for his HF to get back to 100% of which he had none.

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/3410/howhfworksed0.jpg
And he didn't even have time to get a decent beer?
He wasn't at 100% or anywhere close if we're to assume he was telling the truth.
Given the timeframe and his recent dealings with Omega Red there's little logical reason to assume he was lying about that.


Originally posted by Don Mega
Wolverine had him on the ground holding him with one hand and getting ready to kill him with the other but Blade put the vial to his kneck and Logan stopped his attack. Then he let Blade go. Why the hell would Logan let somebody go who just tried to kill him? That's the whole thing. He had multiple chances to kill Blade. He could have sliced him to meat cubes with his initial two slashes but he didn't. He could have ripped his face off with his third; he didn't. He could have launched brain matter out the back of his head if his claws were out in his third attack, he didn't. he could have snikted him when his fist was up to Blades jaw, he didn't. He could have aced him with the hand that held blade down. he didn't. He could have killed him by cutting his head off when Blade took off his mask.. He didn't.

Wolverine did little more than threaten Blade so he'd stop fighting him seeing how Wolverine really wasn't looking for a fight to begin with. he held back on Blade and wasn't trying to kill the guy.. Maybe because he's a hero, maybe because he recognized the scent... Wolverine's threatened everyone from Wonderman, Colossus, Kitty Pride, and Xavier to Elektra's boyfriend just to see it they/he/she had "the stones" without any intention of attacking any one of them. He may have threatened Blade, but if he wanted Blade dead, Blade would be.

Don Mega
That's still all biased. All of it.

Blade wears kevlar. Sure not stronger than his claws but strong enough to take a slash. Blade stuck his sword in Logan's gut, then he slashed Blade's face with his claws. Maybe Blade rolled with the swipe? Maybe Blade should have slashed with his sword instead of stab? I've seen Logan put down by a single swipe to the gut. Logan then went for the killing swipe but Blade put the vial to his kneck and refused to inject Logan instantly. It goes both ways.

jinzin
Originally posted by Don Mega
That's still all biased. All of it.
How? What the f**k?

Originally posted by Don Mega
Blade wears kevlar. Sure not stronger than his claws but strong enough to take a slash.
No.. no expression

Wolverine as been stated on panel capible of cutting through steel like ahot knife through butter. He consistently tears through Hulk. And well actually.. The entire security force that was stationed at the Weapon X facility was wearing Kevlar reinforced body armor complete with helmets. Wolverine diced them all into meatcubes. You can't honestly believe that a guy who's stated to have claws that can cut through anything can't go through Kevlar can you?

No more than I can believe that Wolverine was actually trying to hurt Blade? Can you?

Originally posted by Don Mega
Blade stuck his sword in Logan's gut, then he slashed Blade's face with his claws. Maybe Blade rolled with the swipe? Maybe Blade should have slashed with his sword instead of stab?
He stabbed Logan in the gut while Logan was reconfirming that Blade wanted the fight, which only goes farthur to support that Blade wasn't trying.

Maybe Blade rolled.. but I doubt it. IF Blade "should" have slashed instead of stabbed that goes farthur to prove that he's not all that when it comes to sheer skill.

Originally posted by Don Mega
I've seen Logan put down by a single swipe to the gut.
Which is nothing more than a low showing. The man's fought Sabretooth and Lady Deathstrike at the same time without going down.

Originally posted by Don Mega
Logan then went for the killing swipe but Blade put the vial to his kneck and refused to inject Logan instantly. It goes both ways. Logan never took that swipe... Point out where he did.
It really doesn't go both ways. Blade got railed, Wolverine wasn't trying. It's definitely not a pro-Blade feat at any rate.

Mindset
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
actually recently I believe wolverine healing factor has had a dramtic decrease in power

and check out the respect thread, spiderman was turned in the very first issue

you should really check out the respect thread

So have you actually even read Blade comics?

ANd I take it you don't read Wolverine comics either,.

DestinyGuy678
no where does it sate wolverine wasnt trying...even at the end of the fight wolverine asked why should he allow him to leave, ablde then says because they are too evenly matched

and then blade proceeds to threaten shield saying if they went after wolverine they would have to deal with him...which apparently worked

jinzin
which was also ridiculous. Yeah shield's wranglin in as many super heroes and villains as they can get their hands on but they go after Wolverine and their gonna "answer" to him? BWAHAHA!

Wolverine wasn't trying. It's obvious when he's mocking Blade with "ouchie"... If he was then why did he punch Blade in the head clawless?

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by jinzin
which was also ridiculous. Yeah shield's wranglin in as many super heroes and villains as they can get their hands on but they go after Wolverine and their gonna "answer" to him? BWAHAHA!

Wolverine wasn't trying. It's obvious when he's mocking Blade with "ouchie"... If he was then why did he punch Blade in the head clawless?
...if you actually read the seris you woulve known blade took out an entire shield hellicarrier easily and proceeded to battle their hero fighting team, only reason he didnt beat them is he didnt want to kill him, blade could seriously damage shield

I still yet to see anything that gives ironfist the win

jinzin
Cape killers weren't ALL that impressive. Steve Rogers took down 20 of em Dum Dum Dugan included and he wasn't even ready for them.

If SHIELD wanted Blade taken out it wouldn't be that hard. You think he'd fair well against the New Thunderbolts or somethin?

What kind of proof will convince you?
I mean you have evidence of Wolverine flat out owning Blade to the point that Blade had to resort to using a handgun and a serum and saying that it's a testiment to Blade's skill being on par with Logan... So it really doesn't seem like you'll be convinced of anything short of "Blade wins".

Don Mega
Originally posted by jinzin
which only goes farthur to support that Blade wasn't trying. Maybe he wasn't either?
Originally posted by jinzin

Maybe Blade rolled.. but I doubt it. IF Blade "should" have slashed instead of stabbed that goes farthur to prove that he's not all that when it comes to sheer skill.


This proves your biased view on all things Wolverine. Just because Blade chooses to stab instead of slice you say it shows lack of skill. But when Logan fails to damage Blade mortally you say it shows Logan holding back. laughing

Even though there is no narration or reason to assume Logan was holding back.

Don Mega
Originally posted by jinzin

Logan never took that swipe... Point out where he did.
It really doesn't go both ways. Blade got railed, Wolverine wasn't trying. It's definitely not a pro-Blade feat at any rate. Logan didn't take that swipe because Blade put the vial to his kneck then Logan backed off and let him up because it was "game, set, and match". All he needed from there was a silver bullet or a flash grenade. Wolverine may not be scared of death but he surely want's to avoid it. Blade sparred his life.

jinzin
Originally posted by Don Mega
Maybe he wasn't either?
This proves your biased view on all things Wolverine. Just because Blade chooses to stab instead of slice you say it shows lack of skill. But when Logan fails to damage Blade mortally you say it shows Logan holding back. laughing

Even though there is no narration or reason to assume Logan was holding back.
Biased my ass...

Blade knew who Wolverine was before going into the battle, he was given a dossier on Wolverine prior to the fight and made fully aware of what he was up against.

So he chooses to go for a single stab? Really? Did he really think that was going to work?

Look, we've seen Logan stabbed in the gut by skilled swordsmen who were able to withdraw their swords and continue the fight. Silver Samurai, Kimora the Immortal, Shingen, and Ogun all used the same method but were able to keep control of their weapons and continue the fight (except for SS in their last encounter of course), Blade lost control of his weapon immediately. Whether you think that's due to a deficiency in speed, skill, or resiliency the point remains the same... Known skilled swordsmen fared far better than Blade did without having to resort to guns and serums... or Wolverine's charity for that matter...
And yes there's plenty of reasons to assume that Wolverine was holding back.

If he wasn't:
Then why didn't he dice Blade to pieces in his first attack?
Why did he retract his claws when he punched Blade in the face?
Why didn't he snikt through Blades skull when he had his fist at Blades jaw?
Why didn't he try to attack Blade when Blade reached for his serum and grabbed hold of Wolverine's mask?
Why didn't he attack him after?

jinzin
Originally posted by Don Mega
Logan didn't take that swipe because Blade put the vial to his kneck then Logan backed off and let him up because it was "game, set, and match". All he needed from there was a silver bullet or a flash grenade. Wolverine may not be scared of death but he surely want's to avoid it. Blade sparred his life.

He wants to avoid it? What the f**k?

Oh is that why he's jumped out of SHIELD hellicarriers several times in spite of knowing he'd end up as pavement pizza?
Is that why he continuously starts crap with Magneto and Hulk?
Because he's so concerned for his own safety?

laughing out loud

uh-huh.


Look, even IF for the sake of argument, Blade and Wolverine were fighting all out all it would take to end Blade at that point is one swipe.. Where as Blade would still need to reach for any other weapon that may or may not work on Wolvie.

It wasn't game set and match it was Wolverine taking it easy on someone he saved before.

Soljer
Funny.

I don't see Wolverine in this thread.
erm.

jinzin
Originally posted by Soljer
Funny.

I don't see Wolverine in this thread.
erm.

I almost let it go until that fanboy said it's an example that Blade's as skilled as Wolverine (and thusly Danny)... which is absurd.

Rand in a stomp.

Don Mega
Originally posted by jinzin
I almost let it go until that fanboy said it's an example that Blade's as skilled as Wolverine (and thusly Danny)... which is absurd.

Rand in a stomp. HAHAHA but you couldn't resist! Jinzin Wolverine ftw!!

YFZ 350
Originally posted by Don Mega
Maybe he wasn't either?
This proves your biased view on all things Wolverine. Just because Blade chooses to stab instead of slice you say it shows lack of skill. But when Logan fails to damage Blade mortally you say it shows Logan holding back. laughing

Even though there is no narration or reason to assume Logan was holding back. You make a good point. Blade does this instead of that jinzin writes it off as lack of skill. Logan does this instead of that jinzin writes it off as holding back. I don't get it.

Wolverine knew Blade was sent to bring him back in. So why would Logan hold back? At the start of the fight he states he's pissed and wants a beer. Blade keeps him from getting his beer which would piss me off anyways.

Logan was lucky Blade wasn't in it to kill him or he would have killed him from the start.

jinzin
Originally posted by YFZ 350
You make a good point. Blade does this instead of that jinzin writes it off as lack of skill. Logan does this instead of that jinzin writes it off as holding back. I don't get it.

Wolverine knew Blade was sent to bring him back in. So why would Logan hold back? At the start of the fight he states he's pissed and wants a beer. Blade keeps him from getting his beer which would piss me off anyways.

Logan was lucky Blade wasn't in it to kill him or he would have killed him from the start. How preytell?

Listen all I said was that it could go farther to prove a lack of skill, and there's plenty of evidence to support that given all the other skilled swordsmen Wolverine's fought....

But let's get real, Wolverine WAS holding back... I've yet to see anyone explain this away....

And yes there's plenty of reasons to assume that Wolverine was holding back.

"If he wasn't:
Then why didn't he dice Blade to pieces in his first attack?
Why did he retract his claws when he punched Blade in the face?
Why didn't he snikt through Blades skull when he had his fist at Blades jaw?
Why didn't he try to attack Blade when Blade reached for his serum and grabbed hold of Wolverine's mask?
Why didn't he attack him after?"

Even if you could argue or rationalize every other point there, the second stands out like a sore thumb.. Why did he retract his claws when he punched Blade in the face? That right there would have ended the fight immediately if Logan was out for blood.. He wasn't or anywhere close to it.

Mindset
Anyway, Danny wins.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Blade does this instead of that jinzin writes it off as lack of skill. Logan does this instead of that jinzin writes it off as holding back. I don't get it. I noticed that also. Not just in this thread either.
Originally posted by YFZ 350

Wolverine knew Blade was sent to bring him back in. So why would Logan hold back? At the start of the fight he states he's pissed and wants a beer. Blade keeps him from getting his beer which would piss me off anyways. Yep, there is no evidence so suggest Logan was holding back. He has no reason to. If anybody did it would be Blade as he was forced into doing it.
Originally posted by YFZ 350

Logan was lucky Blade wasn't in it to kill him or he would have killed him from the start. If Blade wanted Logan dead he would have killed his midget @ss at the start.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by Don Mega
Maybe he wasn't either?

Blade was obviously holding back. He was just toying with Logan and waiting for the right moment to make his move. And when he did Logan knew he was screwed.

jinzin
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I noticed that also. Not just in this thread either.
Yep, there is no evidence so suggest Logan was holding back. He has no reason to. If anybody did it would be Blade as he was forced into doing it.
If Blade wanted Logan dead he would have killed his midget @ss at the start.

like hell. He had several.

Blade's a hero, Wolverine's familiar with the Midnight sons.
Wolverine saved Blade in the past and can recognize that off of scent alone as displayed with Hunter in Darkness.
And, where the fight's concerned, WOLVERINE PUNCHED HIM IN THE FACE WITH RETRACTED CLAWS... He was holding back.. that's not up for debate.

Blade would have to be capable of killing him from the start to have a chance... I like how ridiculous that sounds coming from somone who called me a fanboy.. pfft.

jinzin
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blade was obviously holding back. He was just toying with Logan and waiting for the right moment to make his move. And when he did Logan knew he was screwed.

Yeah that's why he dared Blade to do it, because he "knew he was screwed" roll eyes (sarcastic)

DestinyGuy678
ok we'll make a wolverine vs. blade topic, this has gotten of subject

the fact still stands nothing from IF's feats suggest he could take out blade, a full powered ironfist if IF could manage a hit

YFZ 350
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I noticed that also. Not just in this thread either.
Yep, there is no evidence so suggest Logan was holding back. He has no reason to. If anybody did it would be Blade as he was forced into doing it.
If Blade wanted Logan dead he would have killed his midget @ss at the start. Yea, I don't think there's no reason to believe Logan was holding back, nothing in the stroy corresponds with that assumption. Blade didn't even want to be there like mentioned above. He was forced into it by Shield. Instead of lolly gagging around he should have ended the fight at the start. And even when Blade had the chance to finish it he gave Logan the option. Live or die, Logan chose wisely.

jinzin
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Yea, I don't think there's no reason to believe Logan was holding back, nothing in the stroy corresponds with that assumption. Blade didn't even want to be there like mentioned above. He was forced into it by Shield. Instead of lolly gagging around he should have ended the fight at the start. And even when Blade had the chance to finish it he gave Logan the option. Live or die, Logan chose wisely.

laughing out loud

I guess I'm talkin to my ass or something...


Well I'll just consider the fact that no one can readily answer the questions I posed as a silent concession to this nonsense.

YFZ 350
Originally posted by jinzin
laughing out loud

I guess I'm talkin to my ass or something...


Well I'll just consider the fact that no one can readily answer the questions I posed as a silent concession to this nonsense. I've already responded to your nonsense. I am not gonna do it repeatedly.

jinzin
Uh, no... you responded to OTHER PEOPLE responding to me.


Yet no one has a legitimate answer for the questions I posed. So... concession.

YFZ 350
You have been dealt with accordingly.

jinzin
You mean ignored? Yeah that's pretty convenient.....

more like "I know there's not an answer to those questions that doesn't make Blade look like a pansy so I'm gonna pretend someone else answered em for Blade".... no expression

DestinyGuy678
Then why didn't he dice Blade to pieces in his first attack?
wasnt in range

Why did he retract his claws when he punched Blade in the face?
same reason blade stopped to chat after stabbing wolverine, neither were giving it their all

Why didn't he snikt through Blades skull when he had his fist at Blades jaw?
No where did he have the chance to do this

Why didn't he try to attack Blade when Blade reached for his serum and grabbed hold of Wolverine's mask?
that was blades speed at work he pulled off the mask and injected the nedle in one motion

Why didn't he attack him after?
Surprise most likely

jinzin
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
Then why didn't he dice Blade to pieces in his first attack?
wasnt in range
So he only cut enough to rip Blades kevlar but not Blade? convenient... especially since Blade not only took a full jump at Wolverine but was also within range to plunge his sword halfway into Logan's chest.. but Logan couldn't nik Blade?
Nonsense.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
Why did he retract his claws when he punched Blade in the face?
same reason blade stopped to chat after stabbing wolverine, neither were giving it their all So you concede that Logan could have easily waisted Blade during the h2h fight but CHOSE not to, hence HOLDING BACK?

Anyways, considering that Blade did launch his sword into Wolverine's torso and plug him full of holes one's inclined to think he was taking the fight more seriously than Wolverine who was just playing around.


Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
Why didn't he snikt through Blades skull when he had his fist at Blades jaw?
No where did he have the chance to do this

confused

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/995/blade4ev2.jpg
Second panel top right.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
Why didn't he try to attack Blade when Blade reached for his serum and grabbed hold of Wolverine's mask?
that was blades speed at work he pulled off the mask and injected the nedle in one motion
Blades faster than Wolverine to THAT degree?

Really? Care to prove it? Cause Wolverine disarming Blade, hitting him in the face, and slamming him to the ground seems to dictate otherwise.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
Why didn't he attack him after?
Surprise most likely Uh.. what?

DestinyGuy678
.No...I'm saying they were even which is why neither of them ended up dead and why wolverine allowed him to go

as for when wolverine could popped his claws into his head....he was kinda stopped when blade hit him in the head knocking hi ma couple of feet back

as for the speed, blade moving fast enough to earn the first strike before wolveinr ecould react, the fight was even and was stated to be even especially since the guy who wrote the comics writes wolverine as well

jinzin
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
.No...I'm saying they were even which is why neither of them ended up dead and why wolverine allowed him to go
And you're wrong, nothing about that fight was "even".. Wolverine was toying with Blade while Blade was taking the fight more seriously. Wolverine had several chances to kill Blade and took advantage of none of them. Blade had one ace up his sleeve and it's probably one that wouldn't have even worked. no expression

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
as for when wolverine could popped his claws into his head....he was kinda stopped when blade hit him in the head knocking hi ma couple of feet back
They had enough time to growl at one another. Wolverine's claws come out at over 160 miles per hour. Do the math.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
as for the speed, blade moving fast enough to earn the first strike before wolveinr ecould react, the fight was even and was stated to be even especially since the guy who wrote the comics writes wolverine as well Nothing more than a self imposed delusion. Wolverine got not only one but two conservative strikes on Blades torso before Blade even had his guard up. Wolverine made no attempt to negotiate the sword thrust whatsoever.
The fight wasn't even, Wolverine could've killed Blade multiple times and didn't, Blade had to reply on an ace in the hole that probably wouldn't have worked and would have most likely got Blade killed anyways.
The fight wasn't stated to be even by anyone but Blade a man who thinks SHIELD should be threatened by him... no expression

snoopdogg
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
Then why didn't he dice Blade to pieces in his first attack?
wasnt in range

Why did he retract his claws when he punched Blade in the face?
same reason blade stopped to chat after stabbing wolverine, neither were giving it their all

Why didn't he snikt through Blades skull when he had his fist at Blades jaw?
No where did he have the chance to do this

Why didn't he try to attack Blade when Blade reached for his serum and grabbed hold of Wolverine's mask?
that was blades speed at work he pulled off the mask and injected the nedle in one motion

Why didn't he attack him after?
Surprise most likely Instead of Blade stabbing Logan in the gut with his sword he could have just stuck the vial in his kneck anf finished him off. Blade was just measuring up Logan and ended the fight on his terms not Logan's.

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by jinzin
And you're wrong, nothing about that fight was "even".. Wolverine was toying with Blade while Blade was taking the fight more seriously. Wolverine had several chances to kill Blade and took advantage of none of them. Blade had one ace up his sleeve and it's probably one that wouldn't have even worked. no expression


They had enough time to growl at one another. Wolverine's claws come out at over 160 miles per hour. Do the math.

Nothing more than a self imposed delusion. Wolverine got not only one but two conservative strikes on Blades torso before Blade even had his guard up. Wolverine made no attempt to negotiate the sword thrust whatsoever.
The fight wasn't even, Wolverine could've killed Blade multiple times and didn't, Blade had to reply on an ace in the hole that probably wouldn't have worked and would have most likely got Blade killed anyways.
The fight wasn't stated to be even by anyone but Blade a man who thinks SHIELD should be threatened by him... no expression

they obviously were as no more people were sent after wolverine

jinzin
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Instead of Blade stabbing Logan in the gut with his sword he could have just stuck the vial in his kneck anf finished him off. Blade was just measuring up Logan and ended the fight on his terms not Logan's.
Because you know for a fact that sticking the vial in Logan's neck would turn him.

Or that if it did turn him, that Blade would have a chance at taking him down (Vampire Wolverine has taken over two alternate reality MU earth's).

Or that if it did turn Logan into a vampire but not an uber MU asskicking one that Blade would then be able to negotiate around Logan's Adamantium ribcage to pierce his heart without being completely evicerated first all in spite of already being humiliated by the man without a vampiric upgrade.

Blade already had a dossier on Logan, he did his measuring and implimented a plan of action, his action failed. His vial was a last resort and he wouldn't have even had the chance to use that if Logan didn't let him....
That fight was nothing short of Wolverine walkng all over Blade from one side of his apartment to the other.

jinzin
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
they obviously were as no more people were sent after wolverine
Because they sent Blade after Logan at the end of the Civil War crisis.. so it really didn't matter much after that... erm

I can't believe you're really under the impression that an organization who has Sentry, Ironman, Clor, and the New Thunderbolts under it's wing would be intimidated by a man they already successfully wrangled up. What the f**k?

Neo_Version 7
Stop ganging up on Jin. I agree that James would probably beat Blade (But Snipes is total bad-ass).

I mean, seriously. Unless James wasn't in the mood to take his claws out, I don't see any reasonable indication that he wasn't holding back.

I got your back, Jin. You and your funny Yu-Gi-Oh! like name.

jinzin
Originally posted by Neo_Version 7
Stop ganging up on Jin. I agree that James would probably beat Blade (But Snipes is total bad-ass).

I mean, seriously. Unless James wasn't in the mood to take his claws out, I don't see any reasonable indication that he wasn't holding back.

I got your back, Jin. You and your funny Yu-Gi-Oh! like name. daymn, thanks Neo.


lol Yu-Gi-Oh? hehe.

Neo_Version 7
I'm just saying. I like Blade as much as the next guy but saying James wasn't holding back with retracted claws does not hold a lot of weight.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Instead of Blade stabbing Logan in the gut with his sword he could have just stuck the vial in his kneck anf finished him off. Blade was just measuring up Logan and ended the fight on his terms not Logan's.

pleases tell me you don't actually believe this crap you just said?

Master-Borg
Originally posted by Battlehammer
pleases tell me you don't actually believe this crap you just said? whats wrong with what he said?

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Master-Borg
whats wrong with what he said?
all of it.

Have you read the issue?

First why would he bee messureing up Logan when he was given all the info shield had of wolverine to view as he pleased?

Then the vial was extremely small there no way he could had hit Logan with it in the beggining of the fight. Hell Blade could not even get off the first attack with his sword let a long an object that was like 2 inches big.

The next problem with it is the fact there no reason to assume the vial would work at all.

next problem with it is the vial would not kill Logan only turn him into a vampire which in no way would end the fight and if any thing make blade be in a world of trouble. It would amp Logan abilities and Logan would no Longer be holding abck like he was the entire fight.

Master-Borg
Originally posted by Battlehammer


next problem with it is the vial would not kill Logan only turn him into a vampire which in no way would end the fight and if any thing make blade be in a world of trouble. It would amp Logan abilities and Logan would no Longer be holding abck like he was the entire fight.

would it even work on Logan? wouldnt his HF negate the effects?

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Master-Borg
would it even work on Logan? wouldnt his HF negate the effects?

Most likly his healing factor would negate the effects

Master-Borg
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Most likly his healing factor would negate the effects Is blade stronger and faster than Logan? considering he's a vampire?

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Master-Borg
Is blade stronger and faster than Logan? considering he's a vampire?
Naw he not. If anything he inferior.

Actaully Logan moved so fast he was mistaken for a vampire lol.

Soljer
Originally posted by Master-Borg
Is blade stronger and faster than Logan? considering he's a vampire?

Per feats, no.

Wolverine is Blade's superior.

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Soljer
Per feats, no.

Wolverine is Blade's superior.
doesnt marvel have official bios? is so cant we judge fro mthem?

YFZ 350
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Instead of Blade stabbing Logan in the gut with his sword he could have just stuck the vial in his kneck anf finished him off. Blade was just measuring up Logan and ended the fight on his terms not Logan's. Bingo!!! I bet jinzin don't like his logic used against him.

If Blade was out for the kill he would have just stuck the vial in his kneck instead of stabbing him with his sword and got it over with. Blade was just toying with Logan. And then there's the fact he was forced into fighting Logan against his will.....

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Battlehammer
all of it.

Have you read the issue?

First why would he bee messureing up Logan when he was given all the info shield had of wolverine to view as he pleased?

Then the vial was extremely small there no way he could had hit Logan with it in the beggining of the fight. Hell Blade could not even get off the first attack with his sword let a long an object that was like 2 inches big.

The next problem with it is the fact there no reason to assume the vial would work at all.

next problem with it is the vial would not kill Logan only turn him into a vampire which in no way would end the fight and if any thing make blade be in a world of trouble. It would amp Logan abilities and Logan would no Longer be holding abck like he was the entire fight.

blade managed to easily beat a vampire spiderman who on his own is both stronger and faster than wolverine

Soljer
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
doesnt marvel have official bios? is so cant we judge fro mthem?

Biographies often contradict what the comics themselves portray.

When secondary material contradicts the primary source, canon always defers to primary.

YFZ 350
Blade can lift 1 ton. Logan is usually listed at 800lbs.

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Soljer
Per feats, no.

Wolverine is Blade's superior.
I have a lot of wolverine comics thats the most I have I think (second being black panther) and from what I've seen in blades respect thread wolverine isn't as strong or as fast as blade, his healing factor is AMAZING though

but possibly there are older feats I havent seen

anyway this strays from blade vs. ironfist, not much evidence has been provided in defence of the ironfist side

Battlehammer
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Blade can lift 1 ton. Logan is usually listed at 800lbs.
wrong.

Also on comic pannel says other wises. Hell Logans first strength feat had him being made to weight tons...........and the floor gave out befor he did.



He also been stated as superhuman in strength in a number of sources as well as being stated similarly in comics.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
blade managed to easily beat a vampire spiderman who on his own is both stronger and faster than wolverine
really what vampire? Morbius? Becuases you do know morbius let him self get beat right?


also morbius is not stronger nor faster then spiderman.

also spidermans speed is comparable with wolverines.

Soljer
Originally posted by Battlehammer
really what vampire? Morbius? Becuases you do know morbius let him self get beat right?


also morbius is not stronger nor faster then spiderman.

also spidermans speed is comparable with wolverines.

He was talking about Spiderman who was turned into a Vampire.

YFZ 350
2004 Marvel X-Men handbook says Logan has regular human strength for a man who engages in regular intensive excersise or something.

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Battlehammer
really what vampire? Morbius? Becuases you do know morbius let him self get beat right?


also morbius is not stronger nor faster then spiderman.

also spidermans speed is comparable with wolverines.


....

blade managed to easily beat a vampire spiderman who on his own is both stronger and faster than wolverine

maybe I shouldve put a comma or period after vampire spiderman

YFZ 350
Originally posted by Battlehammer
really what vampire? Morbius? Becuases you do know morbius let him self get beat right?


also morbius is not stronger nor faster then spiderman.

also spidermans speed is comparable with wolverines. Good way to shoot yourself in the nuts.

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by YFZ 350
2004 Marvel X-Men handbook says Logan has regular human strength for a man who engages in regular intensive excersise or something. isn't there a mor erecent one, and if thatis wolverines strength level than blade is stronger than him

Battlehammer
Originally posted by YFZ 350
2004 Marvel X-Men handbook says Logan has regular human strength for a man who engages in regular intensive excersise or something.

which then controdicts it self by listing him as a level 4 in strength which means superhuman.

Then there his dc vs marvel bio which lists him with superhuman strength.

Then hulk ultimate guide which agians states wolverine has superiorhuman strength.

Then there his comic in which he never been portrayed as anything but beyond human.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
....

blade managed to easily beat a vampire spiderman who on his own is both stronger and faster than wolverine

maybe I shouldve put a comma or period after vampire spiderman

...............strong yes, faster no.

Vampire spiderman means crap. He was a blood lusted morron. It hold more weight if he beat the real deal which Logan has done.

Blade beat vampire spiderman who an idiot.

Logan beat normal Spiderman who intellegent.

wonder which feats better?

YFZ 350
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
isn't there a mor erecent one, and if thatis wolverines strength level than blade is stronger than him The Civil War Damage Report says nothing about Logan having superhuman strength. That was 2007.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by YFZ 350
The Civil War Damage Report says nothing about Logan having superhuman strength. That was 2007.
also says nothing about him not having it.


also states he ahs magnitude durability.

Battlehammer
Danny wins this the vast majority.

YFZ 350
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
I have a lot of wolverine comics thats the most I have I think (second being black panther) and from what I've seen in blades respect thread wolverine isn't as strong or as fast as blade, his healing factor is AMAZING though

but possibly there are older feats I havent seen

anyway this strays from blade vs. ironfist, not much evidence has been provided in defence of the ironfist side I can agree with that.

YFZ 350
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Danny wins this the vast majority. Blade will be on his next mission before Danny's head hits the ground.

Battlehammer
hahahahaha the way you overrate blade in astounding.

YFZ 350
Oh, and a little off topic but in a recent issue of Marvel Comics Presents Blade was seen standing in flames after he snuck into a Korean nuclear facility and killed a scientist following that up by blowing up the whole joint. In his words he was just having a BBQ.

Battlehammer
........................not really all that impressess.

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Battlehammer
hahahahaha the way you overrate blade in astounding.

you dont seem to much about him to say we overate him, he isn't being any more overated than wolverine or ironfist simply because they are more popular

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Battlehammer
also says nothing about him not having it.


also states he ahs magnitude durability.
super strength isnt a part of his mutation, if it isnt listed as one of his powers yo ucant give it to him

DestinyGuy678
Originally posted by Battlehammer
...............strong yes, faster no.

Vampire spiderman means crap. He was a blood lusted morron. It hold more weight if he beat the real deal which Logan has done.

Blade beat vampire spiderman who an idiot.

Logan beat normal Spiderman who intellegent.

wonder which feats better?

vampire spiderman = faster/stronger/bloodlusted, nothing to pove he was any less intelligent

Battlehammer
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
super strength isnt a part of his mutation, if it isnt listed as one of his powers yo ucant give it to him

Actaully it is part of his power set just becuases your ignorant does not change that.


Weapon X novel clearly states he has inhuman strength.

Thats just one of many sources.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
vampire spiderman = faster/stronger/bloodlusted, nothing to pove he was any less intelligent

............are you kidding me? He acted like a complete idiot. he did not think a single o ne of his action through and simply attacked.



porve that he faster or stronger. Nothing in the issue suggested so.

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