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Friday, April 11th 12:00, ending on Friday April 18th 12:00
Pool C
Round: 1 Blair Wind and Leonidas v.s Charlotte Debel and Martian_mind

Arena: " went for simplistic this round, so the arena will consist of a bubble of energy roughly one mile in diameter. This bubble sits in a pocket dimension and no one can go outside of it aside from the already established BFR rules. The energy will be of an unknown type of energy that none of the combatants will be able to absorb and allow them to grow stronger.

The energy can not hurt anyone and simply will act as a forcefield. Also everyone gets minimal flight capabilities in the sphere because there is no floor in it. So everyone gets a small antigravity aura that allows them to travel at 250 MPH in any direction in the energy bubble." - Newjak

Judges: Red, Newjak, Val

Prep: 15 Seconds, in a location outside of the battlezone, adversaries may not harm one another in this 15 seconds.



Blair And Leo:


Team Blair/Leo:
Madison Jeffries/Ivo
Spartan w/Void/Persuaders Axe
Savitar/Vulcan
Reed/Sersi
Black Box
Thom Kallor


Marty and Charlotte:

Charlotte

Terminatrix (Engineer II\Brainiac 8)
Mental Madonna (Mantis\X-Man)
Graviton

Martian Mind:

Enchantress\Mary Marvel
Nightshade
Malefic





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Trick's holding up bracket B, etc. Good luck to you guys, opening posts incoming

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Let The Games Commense!

Charlotte's post # 1\8

In fact, it's a honor for me to fight such opponents with such a record, even though I have 1-0 record against B-Dub (and eager to make it 2-0). But now to some big and not so big stuff.

First of all, the team fielded doesn't match one mentioned in writeup, but I'll go by writeup rosters. So let's talk about our main means of attack vs your main means.

Why your starting attacks are relatively ineffective?
You barely can locate us, first of all- all speed in the world would do you no good when you can't orient in there properly. Your major "disabling" attacks from Thom and Savitar are also dealable with...

Thom powers can be negated by Graviton, period, the maximum area Graviton powers work on is a bit smaller than the one of battlefield, so that would be countered- immediately. In fact, the lag between them would be minimal due to a few things.

You make a big deal about your speed- well, Mental Madonna doesn't have physical body, operates on lightspeed and IS more powerful even at minimal possible level (in fact, full Nate's potential=Dark Phoenix, here we are unlocking about 80% of that potential, and that means god-like Cable, just with much more endurance, being living astral projection- intangible, invisible and ethereal to physical realm, yet taking the best of two worlds) has a good answer for that.
Welcome to the world of psi-freeze, hope you enjoy it.
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As for opponents moving on lightspeed vs living astral projection with telepathy and telekinesis that makes Rachel (and even three Rachel-level telepaths) look like sick puppies (BTW, Cerebro DOESN'T increase TK, period, just TP, and that's the way to deal with Magneto-placed handicaps)... that's Cable (much inferior version that the power level of Mental Madonna, and by the way, Nate is superior to Cable in terms of powerlevel, period) fighting Lightmaster- a being that moves and thinks at lightspeed.

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Of course, you may try and hurt Mental Madonna with your prized axes- that will do you no good. As I've stated before, it operates on lightspeed, period, can suck energy from astral plane (as shown here http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9325/cable03517xq7.jpg ) to power itself up and has PERFECT control over its movement etc.
In fact, I can show you what most likely would happen to your axes.

First, the moment I feel them, I telekinetically grab them out of your hold- or dismantle on molecular level. BTW, an option of that is also taking away your powers- such as your prized speed.
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Though BFRing the things into another dimension sounds more funny to me...
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It's up to you to choose how you'd like to be pwned- as your PIS axes are the only chance for you to somehow hurt Mental Madonna - I'd like to remind you that it's a living astral projection. A projection that was created to destroy worlds. The only difference between Shaman and non-Shaman Nate is a level of conttrol, and due to Mantis' powers Mental Madonna has perfect control over its energies.
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Now on other means to counter your attack- in fact, what's on your line of sight immediately (though "line of sight" in a pitch black darkness courtesy of Nightshade) is intangible and invisible Mental Madonna (though invisibility isn't a must have for astral projections, mantaining it is pretty easy thing as seen there:
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/7609/23wv9.jpg ), a number of "psi-clones" of our team (the real ones are out of your direct line of sight courtesy to "Martian vessel" plan) and 20 dupes of Terminatrix.

What those illusions look like- something along the lines of that, appearing pretty solid. They are merely the distraction, though...
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The Terminatrix dupes are also have a few surprises. What's one of the easiest ways to compensate for superspeed- yes, time manipulation. Given the vast data of Engineer and Brainiac 8 and Angie's ability to control and alter her dupes on molecular level, that's not an impossible power to achieve and is one of our previously mentioned hidden jokers.
The concept of time travel is pretty common in the era Brainiac 8 came from, she time travelled to the present time, so it would be easy to understand and replicate one piece of tech Engineer has info on in her database- temporal wristbands borrowed from Angie's counterpart from 2099 which our Engineer has used to timetravel from 2001 to 1919.
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So giving the ability to timejump to the dupes would be quite an easy thing- Engineer controls her dupes on molecular level down to smallest details, and that and any other alteration can be done instantly.
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What's more (as Terminatrix computerised mind operates as fast as Spartan's one= on lightspeed) we can do some nice alterations in addition to that. Remember the energy absorbtion thing? Easily enough to absorb ANY energy-based attack send on us- since Savitar borrows energy from Vulcan for his speedforce manip...well, it would be stupid not to feed on that vast reserves of energy- note how Wildstorm's version of Vulcan (Vulcan is the closest analogue to Winter) ended up being literally sucked into the energy containment device:
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Speaking of experimeting with Carrier's tech- timetravelling device can also be altered using that knowledge- giving the dupes of Terminatrix the ability to slip in and out of timestream as well, turning them into Zom-like beings.
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So...time manipulation , ability to suck in vast amouths of energy and use it to empower themselves (remember that Brainiac 8 becomes more powerful as she receives more energy)- more than enough to give you troubles. That's only a part of your problems- other ones would be adressed in the next posts.

I'll only touch the thing about Rachel boosted by Cerebro- well, she is still INFERIOR to Mental Madonna... as seen here, Rachel (while having access to the portable version of Cerebra, etc) failed to replicate a feat which was done by god-like Cable casually while doing a shitload of other stuff (like disintegrating unbreakable cosmic surfboards etc).
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Cerebro doesn't amplify TK, and as we see here, Rachel's TK is no match even for a depowered version of Cable, let alone a god-like one, which is the lowest standart for Mental Madonna. In mental duel Rachel got bitchslapped by Emma Frost (whose experience is added to the Nate's during prep and also partially shared with Malefic). I won't post the scans here as the post is already overstuffed with them, but I'll adress that later on if needed.
And as for Malefic- his TP is getting some serious boost due to both shapeshifting with stretching his nervous system (that gives some bonuses to Martian TP- the Xavier feat mentioned by you in your writeup was easily replicated by Martian Manhunter using that method) and Terminatrix injecting nanites into his bloodstream.

Those are the nanites used to free Hawksmoor from Godhead's mental control:
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But engineered using knowledge on psi-amplifiers from Marvelverse and Martian technology, courtesy of information received during prep.


We also have Terminatrix Prime and a few of her dupes with Superadaptoid powers, sporting both Green Martian powers copied from Malefic and the properties of portable Cerebra, as well as knowledge provided by Mental Madonna.
You're SEVERELY outgunned in terms of TP. Really, all the possibilities of mindfry, making your team attack each other etc is really easy thing.

okay, good luck to marty and CDB. now, let's officially get underway, shall we?

THEIR PREP:


intangible and immaterial? proof?
not that i'm complaining (see later) but i know mantis fairly well, and can pretty confidently say that she possesses a PHYSICAL body while in human form. maybe it's solidified energy or something, but she is certainly tangible. even in your scan she is physically clinging to ss. you'll need a LOT more proof if you want anyone to believe she is essentially a 'living astral projection' as you go on to say . . .



nah. it wasn't because tundra couldn't handle the quantity of power. tundra is an earth-based god. nate flooded him with 'other-earthly' power. type of power, not quantity is what gave tundra trouble.





umm, again, proof? i see she recreated a sphere. i see her in no way getting power FROM it, nor do i see it actually protecting her. i see no evidence to REMOTELY suggest she could integrate the tech into herself and use it in anyway close to how you are suggesting. certainly angie has no feats to suggest she could do something like that, and i know indy VERY well and am well aware that she has never integrated tech in any way close to that either or drawn energy from something like that.



without a LOT more evidence and explanation, energy attacks work just fine against her.



that scan is preposterous. any writer that would claim speed of thought=speed of light is . . . not too bright. not that it matters for the purposes of the battle since savitar/vulcan>light speed.



okay, now . . . what the heck did you just do?

seriously, i can't really even formulate an argument against because . . . this is just nonsensical. somehow nate reconnects a woman with her otherselves and suddenly you can access blueprints for the superadaptoid from a computer and gain access to all of emma's psi-tech? honestly, bw or i will address this further when you explain why it shouldn't simply be ignored out of hand by us and any judges following along. (oh, and i'd love to see angie altering herself in such an extensive way. the SA is composed of many sythetic materials, and without the AIM formula, it would require a nearly complete recreation/transmutation of her form to become an adaptoid. has angie EVER done anything like that before?)




is there not a limit of 3 independent constructs? and can you prove she can control/rearrange her dupes like you claim she can?



given the level of spell casting we have seen from amora, i'd say her ability to cast a spell that would prevent us from using our very high level matter manip on angie while at the same time allowing angie the ability to use her own matter manip on herself, is a VERY dubious claim at best. especially in the given 15secs of prep . . .

THEIR INITIAL BATTLE STRATEGY



first, you have no real evidence that mantis would be able to control nate's power any better than nate himself. mantis spent a LIFETIME honing her OWN body and ltd mental powers. to suddenly throw in someone of nate's abilities and simply expect her to be able to control it 'perfectly' as you claim is once again VERY dubious. she certainly is not this bundle of immaterial psi-energy you're insinuating. she is a PHYSICAL being.

beyond that, rachel is currently amped by some of the phoenix force AND cerebro. to assume she isn't at the same level as god-like cable is again little more than unsubstantiated speculation. phoenix-enhanced rachel x5 (which is a ballpark for the amping cerebro would give her) would CERTAINLY be close to or exceed god-like cable. her tk was enough to stalemate GLADIATOR. not to mention that we have THREE characters at rachel's level+sersi's own vast psi powers . . . with the added durability of cerebro, rachel and company can easily match whatever you claim to have.

not that you would have anything of course . . .

assuming mantis spoke truly and her body IS literally energy, well, you're pretty screwed. vulcan alone could likely destroy you easily enough -- or better yet simply control your body. but THREE omega level energy manipulators (adaptoid, amazo, vulcan), all moving at or beyond lightspeed?? there aren't words to describe how screwed you'd be . . . and regardless of the level of tp mantis may or may not possess, it won't matter once vulcan simply performs a bit of energy-manipulating brain surgery and prevents you from accessing your powers. even assuming for a moment that in this strange world you're painting thought speed=light speed, savitar/vulcan>light speed. oh, and finding you won't be a problem -- tp is energy. you need to emit it to create your shield. vulcan can sense it. or he can simply sense the kinetic energy trail you'd leave behind. or graviton's gravitic energy. or black box uses his GL ring to find you and tells everyone where you are via tp link. anyway, once he's sensed where you are, savitar can then STEAL your kinetic energy. once again, to savitar, you would appear to be standing still. my speed advantage is simply too great. vulcan can easily find you, he can keep you from accessing your powers, and likely dismantle or control your energy body. or perhaps i simply add speed to your brain like walter did? yeah, you are dead in a whole lotta ways.

oh, and never forget -- black box and amazo BOTH also have access to jonzz's own tp powers AND both are protected by the power of a GL ring . . .



again, i'd love a ruling on the number of dupes. anyway, rachel would very easily be able to 'see through' whatever illusions you cast and with the speed i've added to her be able to relay that info to us well inside the first second of the battle. illusions would be less than meaningless. and for us thinking speed=reaction speed. not so with you guys whose thoughts FAR outpace your ability to act on them.



seeing doesn't matter to us (though YOUR team might not like it as much . . .) and gravity is simply another form of energy. don't forget too -- reed is ALSO in vulcan's head via the tp link that has been established. vulcan will be VERY well informed in regards to what exactly he should be looking for and in terms of the nearly limitless potential for his powers. lightspeed sersi could easily match mary marvel until black box teleports in and removes mary's pretty head. AFTER he copies all her powers, of course.



bw can deal with this.



seriously, you need evidence to say something like this and frankly you guys have provided none at all. and again, regardless, savitar>lightspeed.



again, baseless extrapolation. besides, if you WERE in the astral realm, or anywhere EXCEPT the physical world, you'd be bfr'ing yourself . . .


looks like an interesting place to visit, alas, i'll be skipping the stop. savitar/vulcan thinking speed>yours. by now, you know the rest . . . and regardless, our THREE rachel-level psi's (+sersi) could simply overpower you telepathically anyway.


don't see him 'thinking' at lightspeed. seems nate won via a trick anyway . . . but (one more time?) it matters not. in this battle my dear, lightspeed is simply too slow.


oh, they'll work quite nicely. 'specially with you all frozen because you have no speed, and your psi-abilities blocked off. but vulcan would probably have more fun just ripping your energy body to pieces anyway.



yikes, again with the crazy speculation. now during the battle you are going to create time dilation tech?? you know for a fact angie knows how to create these things? again, you need to prove she can alter herself or her dupes in such a fundamental way (or even locate the info and integrate the tech like you are suggesting) AND with anything NEARING the speed you want to do so.



except i'm not directing energy at you. i'm drawing it from the speed force and sharing it with my team and it would be happening so quickly you wouldn't even know it. and even supposing for an instant i WAS put in the device in some way i can't even imagine, i could simply vibrate out of it at will . . .

=self bfr once you've left our timeframe.


show me someone getting empowered again . . . and how the heck you gonna trap people who move at lightspeed or faster, have axes that can cut anything and can teleport into or out of whatever you throw at us?




that's rach without the phoenix. with it, her tk=gladiator level strength. enhanced by phoenix and cerebro, her tp will be FAR greater than it was when she faced emma. add in the fact that since that time xavier has also given her a great deal more training in the mindscape, (preparing her for going after vulcan), and she is also far more SKILLED than she was.

my rachel>>>>>>>>>rachel in any of your scans
shut down by vulcan or amazo or adaptoid? (scan readily available if needed)



umm, yeah. you're gonna really need to somehow NOT make that whole thing seem nonsensical by giving everyone a rational explanation for just how you get the psi-tech info and the adaptoid info . . .



nah, not at all. 3 rachels+sersi>your martian+nate. especially once all your psi-powers have been turned off inside the first second of the battle.

and it's important not to lose track of black box in this. he possesses the core powers of the jla, all of my team's powers and all of bw's team's powers. moments into the match he will ALSO possess all of YOUR team's powers. the GL ring will let him find your team almost instantly and provide protection against anything you can throw at him. our speed and teleportation gives us infinite flexibility and maneuverability, our axes mean we kill you at will when we hit you -- and you have no way to fend us off. our combined psi-powers>yours AND we can shut yours off.

bw can expand a bit more on our offensive capabilities, but in essence it boils down to the fact that in every conceiveable way we are superior to you.

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......Now that that's out of my system,let the ownage begin.

Firstly,I would like to just say Good Luck to Leo (But not Blair )

Ok,Now here's the deal.As can be seen,they're going to be fighting blind in this Battle,as Nightshade is going to be blacking out the arena.

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So any speed or Strength advantages that they have are essentially useless,as they can't find us.

Not only that,but Nightshade can hide giants inside the dome,as decoys and traps.

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomic277.jpg

So there's that little issue.

Now,inside Malefic,all our characters are capable of Flight,so we'll just simply hover in the middle not touching the sides,whilst Mary Marvellous( Enchanting Mary,I think not Charlotte..) places this lovely little spell on Malefic.

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomic276.jpg

What does this mean?The very second one of your Speedsters accidently run into our Sphere,instant death/vaporization.So we are protected from any and all attacks from your group

Now,Whilst Mary Marvellous is inside the sphere,she implements strategy uber pwnage,which involves Enchantresses DOV special.Whilst we sit in our sphere,untouchable and undetectable,Mary can start to summon the magics of the DCU to add her power into herself,much like Enchantress herself.

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomic291.jpg

(and yes,I'm aware that says she's placing them in Marvel,but she takes them to herself later,and if in real need,she can place them in Nightshade )

Now,you may ask yourself,Who will lend them power?Well,I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Shadowpact (Enchantresses team) and Mary's family (The Marvels) might want to see their loved ones in trouble.Yes,thats right,She'll atleast have the power of Shadowpact and all of the Marvel Family (hell,even Phantom Stranger likes to help out the Pact)

So aauming you can by some freak of nature,peirce Our sphere...You have a Skyfather(mother?) Waiting on the inside.

Now,as to our final trump card...

ightshade posses one of the most powerful BFR's in comcidom,capable of engulfing an entire city.


So,at the onset of the match,Nighstshade simply has to release a similar wave,which,in the pitch darkness,will be utterly unavoidable,and whilst it may tax her strangth normally,well.....Mary marvellous can take care of that,can't she?
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o summarize..You can't touch us,you can't see us,within the first 3 seconds of the match you'll be in another dimension,if by some miracle you reach our sphere,you die.

Charlotte's post 2\8

That's all nice and fine, but first of all- about energy absorbtion part- read the first part of my writeup. I'm altering energy syphon system Brainiac 8 ALREADY posesses, and since her body is already composed of futuristic nanotech, altering it using nanoblood (in case of Terminatrix it works more like symbiote as Brainiac8 has no actual blood, and that's even more handy that normal use since Angie's powers can be used quicker) would be a piece of cake.
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8564/teentitans025page11xu0.th.jpg
Proof on nanotech part.

By the way, good luck in trying to absorb a living astral projection. You don't seem to realise what the living astral projection means. One of the nicest bonuses of it is existance between two worlds, being nothing but a shadow on physical plane (that, by the way, means that it in itself doesn't have any kinetic energy to steal for the starters), and having access to the MASSIVE amouth of energies from astral plane.
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Energy powerup:
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Nothing to grab, nothing to suck, darlings. I present here mentally, existing between worlds. And that disembodied, not hindered by human body entity has lightspeed or even better reaction. If you don't believe it, ask the little dude called Runner.
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As for the body question
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By the way, that scan removes any questions on what body is her natural form of Goddess of life. Her physical body can be easily destroyed- she can afford such luxury. And as for goddess of life, able to get power from every star in the sky (her Celestial Madonna story allows us to tell that that isn't another Storm-style hype), I doubt there would be a huge trouble of holding the powers of god-like Cable level being.

On the other hand, Cerebro\Cerebra doesn't amplify telekinesis at all, and current Rachel sucks even with Phoenix powers. Note that in the scan explaining that it's lobotomised, with vast part of his powers removed Cable performs the tack Rachel couldn't do easily- despite Rachel tapping into her part of Phoenix force and blah-blah-blah. Three noobs aren't better than one noob, as in no way those are more experienced that the Rachel you have from start.

As for "no proof that I'll be able to find necessary information in given time"- I has shown you Nate performing multiversal mindlink (without tech by the way). Multiversal, mind you... As for getting information quickly part- well, Nate has shown the ability to learn the lifetime of experience in no time.
Like here, with Domino:
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That can be done with a good level telepath, not only somebody without psi-defences.
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The information received that way can be easily downloaded into Terminatrix via hivemind connection, for example:
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Nate's psionic illusions are pretty complicated- they're called "impossible" even by Mr Sinister (whom Marvel themselves put above Rachel in psi-department).
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At shaman level of power we have right now (by the way, the main problem with Nate was him confined to the human body, which is removed for that battle)- those are casted worldwide.
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So you have to spend a few picoseconds solving this puzzle, and that's enough, enough, darlings.
That's Exodus being pwned, the same Exodus who send Sersi writhing on the ground in pain...
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By the way, I forgot one thing- if Graviton fails to negate Thom Kallor's powers in time, Mental Madonna with her reflexes close to the ones of your team, can do the trick.
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And as for Glads...Nate dukes it out with M'Kraan crystal guardian, who is said to be invinsible and invulnerable.
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Shatters the moon with his TK (that's ultrarealistic virtual reality, duplicating real world setting in attempt to measure Nate's level of power)javascript:void(0);
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You team can be destroyed on molecular level in given picosecond pause:
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ahh, thanks marty, ya big aussie softy.



already explained we have no need to see in the previous post. we have SEVERAL ways to find you and none involve seeing you.



once we find you, we teleport to you and hack you into bits with our axes, bypassing all traps.





why would we run right into you . . .? blackbox finds you with his GL ring, then uses his axe to kill you. and he REALLY likes what he finds inside . . .





woo-hoo! i hope so, cuz blackbox copies all that magic and then i have my OWN skyfather!! yee-haw!!

and somehow i've neglected to mention this previous posts, but i ALSO have my very own silver surfer AND dr strange and ww hulk to help me in this match! and none of them would be hampered by the darkness either because they're controlled by reed's thoughts and via our tp link he knows where all of you are. so strange and ss can help out blackbox as he cuts you open like a thanksgiving turkey, assist him while he copies your powers, then aid him in polishing you all off. wwh just hits whatever he can reach really really hard.



you have nothing. bfr only works if we can't get back. with our teleportational powers there's nowhere you can remove us that we can't return from almost instantly. doesn't matter how big her wave is or whatever. if we don't reach you first (and with blackbox using flash's speed, persuder's axe, rach's tp and the GL ring he WOULD find you almost instantly) we just port back from wherever you send us. the GL ring could easily bring anyone back if void's porting isn't enough for some reason.



except NEITHER angie nor indy have ever altered themselves or been shown CAPABLE of altering themselves like that. beyond that of course there is the very small fact that we're NOT attacking you with energy. and as i've said already -- your 'trap' (even if anyone for a moment believes you can (a) create it, (b) integrate it, (c) alter yourself to accommodate a change in how it works -- all in 15secs) would be MEANINGLESS as we could escape it instantaneously via teleportation or vibrational phasing . . .



i don't WANT to absorb your body -- i want to disassemble it. destroy it. tear it to shreds. and as you say:



glad you agree. only this time, there is NO PLANT LIFE in the arena for your consciousness to reside in while she reforms a body. NOR is the recreation of a body instantaneous for her -- it took several pages. once her body is destroyed, she will have been eliminated from the battle.



seriously charlotte, i think this would be considered self-bfr as you describe it. in any event, you have COMPLETELY failed to show any reason whatsoever that anyone would actually believe her to be this "immaterial-astral-projection-that-moves-and-thinks-at-light-speed" being that you are making her out to be. you've completely failed because frankly there is NO EVIDENCE to suggest she can exist in the form you are portraying. you're extrapolating -- based on a scan that her body is made of 'energy' -- that she can somehow alter this energy to become immaterial and gain all the properties of having some sort of 'living laser-type' energy body. problem is, her body BEHAVES like a PHYSICAL body and you cannot prove differently.





i was wondering when you were gonna show that scan! it's an impressive enough feat, but that's runner without the gem, the same runner who lost to makarri when he reached lightspeed. savitar>runner w/out gem.





he could only do that because he was connecting her with HERSELVES in those scans. and it was a LINK, not CLOSE to what you ned to do. are you honestly suggesting that nate can scan the MULTIVERSE, search out an individual piece of information -- from one mind -- when he doesn't even know who POSSESSES that information?? and THEN, you think he will simply invade emma's mind (who most certainly would NOT appreciate that . . .) steal all her tech info and somehow psionically download that info into angie who will then manufacture that tech -- all in 15secs. i luv ya darling, but . . . that's patently absurd . . .





pre-phoenix rachel, maybe. there is no chance we would be fooled by your illusions i'm afraid . . .




duked it out?

he put up a shield that was going to crack with the third punch. gladiator on the other hand has shattered a PLANET. and her tk was powerful enough to allow her to get the upperhand on him. there is also a scan of gladiator stalemating silver surfer at one time. non-canon, true, but still, it says a lot. what's more my level is PROVEN. you are merely SPECULATING on how powerful nate would be in this new body . . .

anyway, so vulcan shuts down your psi powers, dismantles your body while blackbox and the others dismantle your team. thanks for the powerboost to blackbox though.

and so, yeah. we win.

Our Position

I am....in shock. The lack of structure in what they are doing truly amazes me. I really have no idea what they are planning after "turning lights off".

Which is funny considering that Nightshade cannot create darkness in the presence of light. Trust me, I used her in a tournament once. And guess who I have? Yea, thats right, the King of the Sun: Lightray.

But that is just to calm the nerves of people who think it would actually matter. You have to understand that we started this match in "stop time". We will be moving at speeds you cannot fathom. EVERYTHING we do is faster than you, and we have the simplest of attacks.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/FlashV2229page15.jpg

You also have to realize that EVEN IF we could not see, thanks to the Void, Spartan is basically clairvoyant. He can teleport people from across the world without being there himself.
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clairvoyantporting4a8fzrb5.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clairvoyantporting4b6djze4.jpg

More proof (he is no where near this people)
http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clairvoyantporting13bfiu2.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clairvoyantporting36kujv7.jpg

Or:
http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clairvoyantporting1a5fbnk7.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clairvoyantporting1b8zeur3.jpg

Basically? We operate in Stop Time. We copy your powers, we teleport to you, and we cut off your fuskin heads. You will have entered the match and will not have any idea that we attacked you. Here's an analogy for you: if your characters were standing in a dark room, and someone flipped on the lights, would you be able to dodge the light? Didnt think so

Deflating their egos
Its nice to know Charlotte wants 2-0, but seeing as I was almost non existent last tourney, she shouldnt be that happy with the one win she has. And Good luck to you too Marty uhuh

Moving on, lets address some of their points:

Nanotech parts? Uh? Read the scan you gave me, where does she say she has NANOTECH parts? All I read was non organics. That does not signify nanotech in any way, shape,or form.
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teentitans025page11xu0.jpg
Yes, Engineer has it, and yes, she can do some good things with it...but why are you trying to absorb energy, when we are busy cutting you to pieces?

Astral Projection
Uzzah? Mantis, what? I swear reading this is giving me a headache. Look, simply put our Axes can cut ANYTHING. Reality itself was cut when by it. Thats how 500 fatal five members came to exist in one reality against the Legion of Super Heroes. Gravity can be cut with it (as shown already), energy, magnetism, ghosts, a persons air supply, ANYTHING.

I was writing this earlier, but then Leo posted, so I dont think I have to go into to much more detail as he covered everything else I wanted to touch upon.

Charlotte's post #3\8

Nanotech or not, her body is non-organic entirely, and can easy be altered on nano-level, Enginner's nanoblood is acting more like symbiote- and those dupes are merely a)decoys; b)scanners; c)one more thing aka little suprrise while you're cutting our dolls. You can be free doing all the cutting in the world with those. If you cut them into pieces, well, we have an option to dissolve them into that:
http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=97kk.jpg
A present for your cybernethic heavy hitters

Also, darlings, I've adressed that I'm actually scared of your axes- but they can still be dismantled on molecular level (as Nate does with Crusader's mythical armour and weaponry in the scan I've provided). ...or BFRed (yes, I'm realising WHOM I'm dealing with). Though that can be countered, I'm actually giving credit to Rachel's TK, not to her TP which IS still kinda noobish in use.

As for power copying info, I'm assuming (from your GL part) that you're copying all the info on powers Amazo has ever absorbed. From where? You're building one from scratch. And as for downloading that stuff...even with Blackbox abilities it seems unlikely. Does Ivo stores all the info on any power Amazo has ever copied?
Also, AFAIK Amazo's powercopying is mythical-dependent, and you're trying to solve the problem by crosscopying with Superadaptoid- who has never be shown on panel to copy more that one powerset at once, not because he can't have data on them, but because of utilising the. Of course, you have Reed and Forge- Ultimate Reed, who has never faced a problem like that, and Forge who sometimes has to dismantle his very own tech to see how it works.

Getting Superadaptoid. In fact, if getting blueprints psionically is unlikely...we still can get them cyberpathically, and that will take even less time.
See, Blackbox is "parasiting" on the world's computer systems via Infonet. Guess what- so does Engineer (losing that possibility was most likely what damages her in recently started Number of the Beast series):
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8534/midnighterarmageddon101qy1.th.jpg
Now, to our hacking capabilities aka those of Terminatrix. As you can see, hacking and analysing ANY databases is a piece of cake for Brainy8.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1123/outsiders09pyratedcppg1br8.jpg
Homeland security ones with complete database on superheroes and their alteregos.
http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=outsiders09pyratedcppg1xb4.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=outsiders09pyratedcppg1rf1.jpg
Mythical ones- on the ritual of Sabbac.
http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=54685352ox6.jpg
That one should be familiar to Leo, as he used it for the proof of the same ability. Instant hacking skills.
http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=97kk.jpg
Something on that part from Angie.

And as for "where to search", well, we have access to full team roster during prep- including the mind of Hank Pym. We can just steal the very same information as you do. Plausible in 15 second, having the top level telepath and cyberpath in the team.

And finally:
WHY IT'S WRONG TO BE GREEDY or what happens when you copy powers of Nate straight from the beginning.
http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xman04007xm6.jpg
See skyfather level being, world consumer and blah-blah-blah being overloaded. Full potential equal to dark Phoenix>>>>the portion of Worlogog Amazo has copied. So feel free to die from indisgestion, happy meal.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Charlotte's post #3\8

Nanotech or not, her body is non-organic entirely, and can easy be altered on nano-level, Enginner's nanoblood is acting more like symbiote- and those dupes are merely a)decoys; b)scanners; c)one more thing aka little suprrise while you're cutting our dolls. You can be free doing all the cutting in the world with those. If you cut them into pieces, well, we have an option to dissolve them into that:
http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=97kk.jpg
A present for your cybernethic heavy hitters


As interesting as that all is, you have to realize your already dead. We killed you. Chopped you up into pieces at lightspeed with instantaneous teleportation. Then to add insult to injury, we have Sersi (who can transmute anything) and Madison Jefferies (who can manipulate metal, glass, plastics). Guess what? Since Engineers nanobots are not a part of her (as shown when the fake Authority took all her nanobots and gave them to that girl to use, and Angie was just a human) we can just have Box take all her nanobots and leave her as an exposed human. Heck, Ill download the way the nanobots work so Madison can create some later. Thanks for that.



Good to know that he knows we can chop him up



What? Ivo created him using super science in Robotics.




ha? Worlogog? Whats half of infinity?
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/amazohrmn2.jpg

I know its short, but I'm busy today. Finals are coming up, and this match ends tomorrow. In the end you should all just vote Leo and Blair

bw addressed some of this, but . . .



even allowing for the moment the chance that we would attack the dupes, there are only 6 and we would carve them up so fast THEN be attacking you directly, that you wouldn't even have TIME to alter them into something new . . .



maybe nate could do that. the question is could he do that to someone who is moving at lightspeed, FAR faster than he can even think? and don't forget -- we have 3 rachels providing psi-protection for us. even if nate (in some inconceiveable way) WAS able to get a tk lock on an axe being wielded by someone moving too fast for him to even see, he'd need to get through her shielding before we hack you to pieces. no way he can do that in time. again, we are simply too fast.



i've already shown blackbox being able to access AIM, the very foundation that created and stores all the info on the adaptoid (showed scan of all the power signatures that they can DL to the adaptoid) so that's incontestable. i'm only copying the powers amazo typically shows -- core JLA and BW's team.



i'm not even sure what this means exactly, my dear. SA becomes an amalgamation. he's used cap's shield, thor's hammer and giant man's powers all at once (i'm NOT accessing those powers in this match, however). he's even copied hawkeye's arrows. clearly he can and has (in almost every appearance) copied and used multiple powersets. unless i'm misunderstanding what you're saying, it doesn't make much sense . . .



how would you get the blueprints? indy's cyberpathic range is quite ltd. she couldn't access AIM from her prep location. any cyberpathy she has tried she has been in the room for, or been in direct contact with the computer she is accessing. you could try and access the SA or amazo directly, but we both have access to jefferies cyberpathy and could fend you off. but, more importantly again, we would simply be moving too fast for you to access us in such a way. we are NOT the metal men, or cyborg. we are moving at lightspeed AND have our own cyberpathic protection. and you'd need to do that in the middle of the battle, not in prep, and you still have the rest of our team to deal with while you tried that. and trying that would mean you couldn't deal with the axes. not to mention the silver surefr, strange and hulk adding to your distress . . .


i'm well aware of indy's abilities. were we stationary and lacking protection of our own, i might (cuz i love indy . . .) even say she could hack our androids, specially combined with angie. but -- we DO have defenses (jefferies) and we ARE moving at lightspeed. hacking our systems really is impossible i'm afraid . . . and it wouldn't matter. you still couldn't alter yourself in time, you could never hack both of us, and you STILL have the rest of our team waiting to destroy you . . .

and i've really been neglecting sersi. moving at lightspeed, with her transmutation skills?? we'd be attacking a bunch for immobile trees in next to no time . . .



hacking the homeland database?? hmm, never would have thought of trying that . . .



except adaptoid has copied kubik in the past and there is exactly ZERO evidence that he can be overloaded by anything. in this match, you guys have made him . . . REALLY powerful.

oh, and we win. nwoot

Ok guys I don't really have time this weekend to sit down and really expand on my vote for now. Things to do places to be kinda thing. So I will give my vote now so that no one is waiting on it. If any of the people want to know why I voted the way I did PM and I'll try and get back to you before the weekend is over.

Anyways my vote is Leo/BW

so . . . anyone else want to vote on EITHER match . . .?

yeah, sitting down now and reading the thread to share my vote

you are a slow reader.

Originally posted by leonidas
you are a slow reader. And you're a fast one

it's a gift.

Originally posted by leonidas
it's a gift. Good

Originally posted by Newjak
And you're a fast one
That's what she said. biscuits





Wait...

Originally posted by Ha-Son
That's what she said. biscuits





Wait...









Self pwnage ftw!

pure genius . . .

It seemed to be that Leo/Blair were able to compensate for every edge that the opposing team had, and held some that couldn't be overcome by their opponents. The defense that Charlotte and Marty had set up was good, but not on the level of Blair/Leo's offense, and seemed not to be prepared for what would face them. Thusly, I give the vote to:
Blair/Leo

Match Over.

Bump for reference.