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Who wins?

Captain Mar-Vell- http://en.marveldatabase.com/Mar-Vell_%28Earth-616%29

Adam Warlock- http://en.marveldatabase.com/Adam_Warlock

&

Jack of Hearts- http://en.marveldatabase.com/Jonathan_Hart_%28Earth-616%29

vs

Cyborg Superman- http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Cyborg_Superman

classic or current adam

The team wins. Jack of Hearts was a powerhouse, so is Warlock.

Classic AW

team

Team

Henshaw. Aside from the Soul Gem, they have absolutely no way of stopping him.

Wouldn't that mean they can stop him?

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Mar-Vell solos, 'cause he cool like that.

The Gem is the only thing that might work, and I'm not sure about that either.

It's 50/50 whether it works. Plus, Warlock doesn't have it currently.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The Gem is the only thing that might work, and I'm not sure about that either.

It's 50/50 whether it works. Plus, Warlock doesn't have it currently. So, why would you add that they have no way of stopping him, when you're post signified that they have a chance if they have the Gem?

How is it 50/50? It doesn't work half the time, or does Henshaw have defenses?

Ya, I know he doesn't have it... but you brought it up.

I'm saying they won't get the chance to use it because Henshaw can one-shot anyone there.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm saying they won't get the chance to use it because Henshaw can one-shot anyone there. Can't tell you how many times this has happened to Warlock...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So, why would you add that they have no way of stopping him, when you're post signified that they have a chance if they have the Gem?

Shut up.

Henshaw ftw.

Originally posted by batdude123
Shut up. No.

Henshaw for the loss.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Henshaw for the loss.

What? How? They've got nothing that can stop him, except for maybe the soul gem if this is classic Warlock.

How the hell do they win?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
What? How? They've got nothing that can stop him, except for maybe the soul gem if this is classic Warlock.

How the hell do they win? You seem to be vastly overrating Henshaw. I have seen three kryptonians cast him aside like nothing. He also had an amp at the time. I have seen the omega effect oneshot him when it has failed against others. Examples are WW,Superman,Mary Marvel,Doomsday.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You seem to be vastly overrating Henshaw. I have seen three kryptonians cast him aside like nothing. He also had an amp at the time. I have seen the omega effect oneshot him when it has failed against others. Examples are WW,Superman,Mary Marvel,Doomsday. It's a good thing that Darkseid and three Kryptonians are on team one... or that post might have failed.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It's a good thing that Darkseid and three Kryptonians are on team one... or that post might have failed. Sheer force can stop him. Thats the point. The other point is that the omega effect can erase him when it has failed against others. The omega effect doesnt work against everyone or hit every target but it does seem to take care of Henshaw pretty easily.


These three overwhelm him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You seem to be vastly overrating Henshaw. I have seen three kryptonians cast him aside like nothing. He also had an amp at the time. I have seen the omega effect oneshot him when it has failed against others. Examples are WW,Superman,Mary Marvel,Doomsday.

The only one of those characters you listed he's even attempted to use the "Omega Effect" on was Superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sheer force can stop him. Thats the point. The other point is that the omega effect can erase him when it has failed against others. The omega effect doesnt work against everyone or hit every target but it does seem to take care of Henshaw pretty easily.


These three overwhelm him.

The insanely asinine logic expressed in this post is down-right astounding.

Originally posted by batdude123
The only one of those characters you listed he's even attempted to use the "Omega Effect" on was Superman. So it wasnt the omega effect on WW. And it wasnt the omega effect that he used against Doomsday?

Originally posted by batdude123
The insanely asinine logic expressed in this post is down-right astounding. Explain.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So it wasnt the omega effect on WW. And it wasnt the omega effect that he used against Doomsday?

Correct.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Explain.

"The other point is that the omega effect can erase him when it has failed against others. The omega effect doesnt work against everyone or hit every target but it does seem to take care of Henshaw pretty easily."

crylaugh

Well I guess this makes sense, considering Darkseid is on the team he's facing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sheer force can stop him. Thats the point. The other point is that the omega effect can erase him when it has failed against others. The omega effect doesnt work against everyone or hit every target but it does seem to take care of Henshaw pretty easily.


These three overwhelm him.

Must have been why he had to be blindsided twice by the OE while he fought an amped Superman.

Yup. I see how that could be a low showing...

Originally posted by batdude123
Correct. The omega beams oneshotted Henshaw while they had no effect on Doomsday.


The point is he can be oneshotted. If Adam has the soul gem this is a cake walk.


The reason I keep bringing up the three kryptonians is because the muscled around an amped Cyborg. These three dont equal three knians but than again this isnt an amped Henshaw like it was in sinestro corps.

Originally posted by Avlon
Must have been why he had to be blindsided twice by the OE while he fought an amped Superman.

Yup. I see how that could be a low showing... Didnt say it was a low showing.


To lose to these three wouldnt be a low showing either, but it would happen.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The omega beams oneshotted Henshaw while they had no effect on Doomsday.


The point is he can be oneshotted. If Adam has the soul gem this is a cake walk.


The reason I keep bringing up the three kryptonians is because the muscled around an amped Cyborg. These three dont equal three knians but than again this isnt an amped Henshaw like it was in sinestro corps.

It didn't do anything to Doomsday? It effectively killed him, then Doomsday came back and evolved.

Oneshotted by an energy source not present in this match. Quit throwing around illogical reasoning.

How was Henshaw amped during Sinestro Corps?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Didnt say it was a low showing.


To lose to these three wouldnt be a low showing either, but it would happen.

How do you figure they add up to 3 kryptonians physically?

Especially when things happened off panels and then he got up and performed even MORE impressive feats afterwards?

Originally posted by Avlon
How do you figure they add up to 3 kryptonians physically?

Especially when things happened off panels and then he got up and performed even MORE impressive feats afterwards? I said they ARENT equal to 3kryptonians. Then I also said that Henshaw was amped and that he isnt in this thread. So he would be easier to muscle around and it wouldnt take 3 knians.

Originally posted by batdude123
It didn't do anything to Doomsday? It effectively killed him, then Doomsday came back and evolved.

Oneshotted by an energy source not present in this match. Quit throwing around illogical reasoning.

How was Henshaw amped during Sinestro Corps? It didnt kill him. He was buried under rubble.

What other time did Doomsday ever come back that quickly.

You dont think the rings amped him at all?

Why even take the rings if the do nothing. Is he wearing them strictly for a fashion sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said they ARENT equal to 3kryptonians. Then I also said that Henshaw was amped and that he isnt in this thread. So he would be easier to muscle around and it wouldnt take 3 knians.


They sure aren't. Your example was because 3 kryptonians beat him that those 3 (who now you admit aren't equal) would overwhelm him.

Considering the people Henshaw has one shotted...those 3 are fodder.

Originally posted by Avlon
They sure aren't. Your example was because 3 kryptonians beat him that those 3 (who now you admit aren't equal) would overwhelm him.

Considering the people Henshaw has one shotted...those 3 are fodder. Henshaw isnt oneshotting Warlock or any of these three.


I admitted it from the beginning. You read my quote wrong. You keep forgetting that the rings increased his might. he doesnt have the rings so he isnt going to be as powerful. These three arent as powerful as the 3knians but then again Henshaw isnt as powerful without his rings.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Henshaw isnt oneshotting Warlock or any of these three.


I admitted it from the beginning. You read my quote wrong. You keep forgetting that the rings increased his might. he doesnt have the rings so he isnt going to be as powerful. These three arent as powerful as the 3knians but then again Henshaw isnt as powerful without his rings.

So Warlock is physically as powerful and durable as Superman, Mongul, Supergirl, Green Lanterns, Superboy, or the Eradicator?

So... Mar-Vell solos?

Originally posted by quanchi112
It didnt kill him. He was buried under rubble.

What other time did Doomsday ever come back that quickly.

You dont think the rings amped him at all?

Why even take the rings if the do nothing. Is he wearing them strictly for a fashion sense.

So according to you, him being buried under rubble means that he didn't die? He came back quickly because it was apparent Hunter/Prey Doomsday was more powerful than other versions. Did you notice how he was adapting to everything on the fly? It's the reason why they had to send him to the end of time.

Are you serious? The rings didn't amp his physical stats at all. They only provide extra energy attacks. And he used them during the Sinestro Corps War.

Besides, how do you even know he doesn't get the rings for this fight?

Originally posted by Avlon
So Warlock is physically as powerful and durable as Superman, Mongul, Supergirl, Green Lanterns, Superboy, or the Eradicator? He doesnt have to be.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He doesnt have to be.

Warlock has heart?

Heart for the win?

Originally posted by batdude123
So according to you, him being buried under rubble means that he didn't die? He came back quickly because it was apparent Hunter/Prey Doomsday was more powerful than other versions. Did you notice how he was adapting to everything on the fly? It's the reason why they had to send him to the end of time.

Are you serious? The rings didn't amp his physical stats at all. They only provide extra energy attacks. And he used them during the Sinestro Corps War.

Besides, how do you even know he doesn't get the rings for this fight? Yes I noticed that. He adapted to the omega beams and they didnt kill him. There is no proof to this. He never died in this story until the end. He wasnt killed by Ds and it wouldnt make any sense as you admitted he was adapting to everything on the fly he wasnt getting killed each and every time.

Ill address this claim of the rings adding nothing to his fight with Superman with a few scans.

Originally posted by Avlon
Warlock has heart?

Heart for the win? He has the soul gem. He doesnt need heart.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Pic022.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Pic023.jpg

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Why did you post that?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes I noticed that. He adapted to the omega beams and they didnt kill him. There is no proof to this. He never died in this story until the end. He wasnt killed by Ds and it wouldnt make any sense as you admitted he was adapting to everything on the fly he wasnt getting killed each and every time.

Doomsday's bio in Countdown suggests otherwise. And I never stated he died every time he adapted to things. However, even when he dies, he comes back.

Originally posted by quanchi112
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Pic022.jpg

Yeah, and? He used energy constructs to fight Superman. Nothing suggests an actual amp of strength.

And once again, where is it stated that he doesn't get the rings for this fight?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He has the soul gem. He doesnt need heart.

He no longer has it.

Even if he does...It's a last resort and definitely not good for him.

What is the range of it? Henshaw could easily blast Warlock from miles away with pinpoint accuracy.

1 shot could easily ko warlock.

Too many options to even list here.

LMAO.

Even though current Adam Warlock doesn't have the soul gem, quanchi automatically assumes he gets it for this fight.

On the other hand, last we saw of Henshaw, he had the rings, yet quanchi assumes there are no rings for him in this fight.

Biased much?

Originally posted by batdude123
LMAO.

Even though current Adam Warlock doesn't have the soul gem, quanchi automatically assumes he gets it for this fight.

On the other hand, last we saw of Henshaw, he had the rings, yet quanchi assumes there are no rings for him in this fight.

Biased much? Quan lives by his own rules.

Originally posted by batdude123
LMAO.

Even though current Adam Warlock doesn't have the soul gem, quanchi automatically assumes he gets it for this fight.

On the other hand, last we saw of Henshaw, he had the rings, yet quanchi assumes there are no rings for him in this fight.

Biased much?

Ya think?

Originally posted by batdude123
LMAO.

Even though current Adam Warlock doesn't have the soul gem, quanchi automatically assumes he gets it for this fight.

On the other hand, last we saw of Henshaw, he had the rings, yet quanchi assumes there are no rings for him in this fight.

Biased much?
Last time we seen Henshaw he dident even have a body let alone rings 131

Originally posted by Priest
Last time we seen Henshaw he dident even have a body let alone rings 131

GOD, SHUT UP!!!!!!11 angryfist

This is Classic Warlock. They also have the Nega Bands also Photon Energy Blasts Powerful enough to destroy stars twice the size of earth and cosmic awareness

Originally posted by batdude123
Doomsday's bio in Countdown suggests otherwise. And I never stated he died every time he adapted to things. However, even when he dies, he comes back.



Yeah, and? He used energy constructs to fight Superman. Nothing suggests an actual amp of strength.

And once again, where is it stated that he doesn't get the rings for this fight? He used the power of the rings to beat the shit out of Supes.

Look at every one of his punches it was amped by the rings. If he didnt use the rings at all then we wouldnt see this correct. So he used the rings and it made his punches hurt a lot more.

Doomsdays bio proves nothing. You choose to believe that but it isnt stated and I take that was one of the times he was resurrected. It didnt mean Ds killed him as he was adapting to everythin gon the fly just as he adapted to the omega beams on the fly.


Show me another time where he was resurrected that quickly to back up your claim.

Originally posted by Avlon
He no longer has it.

Even if he does...It's a last resort and definitely not good for him.

What is the range of it? Henshaw could easily blast Warlock from miles away with pinpoint accuracy.

1 shot could easily ko warlock.

Too many options to even list here. Classic Warlock.

Originally posted by batdude123
LMAO.

Even though current Adam Warlock doesn't have the soul gem, quanchi automatically assumes he gets it for this fight.

On the other hand, last we saw of Henshaw, he had the rings, yet quanchi assumes there are no rings for him in this fight.

Biased much? Oh I dont know maybe because its classic Warlock and hes had the soul gem 80 percent of his appearances.

Henshaw had the rings for one story.

I am not biased at all. Classic Warlock implies to me he would have the gem.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh I dont know maybe because its classic Warlock and hes had the soul gem 80 percent of his appearances.

Henshaw had the rings for one story.

I am not biased at all. Classic Warlock implies to me he would have the gem.

Hm. what does biot have to do with anything

To be honest I think the rings gave Henshaw a physical amp. I don't recall him ever truly fistfighting Superman before then. That being said, there's a reason he wears 8 instead of simply 1. They don't amp him very much at all. It IS a fashion statement, too...Sinestro once promised another ring to someone who could accomplish something, I forget what, but Henshaw's 8 rings is a show of status as well as additional power.

Team for the win.....easy win i.m.o

Originally posted by quanchi112
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Pic023.jpg

I love watching Supes being a punching bag hehehe

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I love watching Supes being a punching bag hehehe I do too.


Cyborg looks very cool in this ish.