Cosmic Wars: Solar vs. Mad Jim Jaspers

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id369
Solar at his peak.
The Classic Mad Jim Jaspers.

Galan007
As far as feats go, Solar did more, imo. but I see this as a stalemate, personally.

Tenebrous
Solar the Destroyer FTW

Mr Master
238 Jaspers thwarted the power of Matrix/Merlyn.

Matrix/Merlyn = Omniversal power.

238 Jaspers,
warped Reality 238 to a greater degree,
than any other Universe across the entire Omniverse has ever been.

Which is why Mandragon erased 238 (because it became an Omniversal threat).
(props to Galan on this find)

616 Jaspers > 238 Jaspers.

(on panel)

616 Jaspers was seen by Cobweb in a possible Future warping the entire Omniverse,
had Jaspers not been stopped by the plot device (Fury)

So Merlyn was right when he predicted what would happen if the Fury,
and the Fury alone, didn't stop Jaspers.

Jaspers 616 also re-arranged the 616 Universe and indeed, became the 616 Universe.
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Just a bit of perspective for those who don't know.

Captain Angont
I see...

Utrigita
Both warps reality without difficulty.

imo Stalemate ore a small victory for Solar.

fangirl101
solar is a supreme being. mad jim jaspers is not.

guy222
Solar

starlock
Solar for the win

"Id"
The more I revisit Solar, the more I realize just how much more powerful he is.

Case, and point...Wildstorm verse being an Omniverse.

Making the following feat, that much more impressive.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_solar4-1.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_solar5-1.jpg

Bentley
Solar. Frankly he might have the highest feats of all the abstracts out there.

TheGodKiller
Solar .

"Id"
Originally posted by Bentley
Solar. Frankly he might have the highest feats of all the abstracts out there.

He is one of the few characters, that are in the same weight class with HoM Wanda or Spectre w/Logoz.

Mr Master
Originally posted by "Id"

The more I revisit Solar, the more I realize just how much more powerful he is.

Case, and point...Wildstorm verse being an Omniverse.

Making the following feat, that much more impressive.

I don't know what's going on in there since I haven't read that story, but ...

What I see is Solar absorbing "an entire Universe" that was in the process of expanding into all realities to remake them.

That's a great feat. But is there more to it?

It seems he only absorbed the Universe that was expanding,
if this is the case, then that Universe hadn't expanded into every reality or even others,
otherwise he would've had to absorb more than just that Universe.

Again, I'm speculating cause I'm basing my idea from the scans.


Anyway ...

Team Excalibur stopped a collapse of all realities,
and in fact re-built all those realities in one page.

They did this with a portion of Matrix/Merlin's power-source.
(MJJ > this Merlin)

abhilegend
Solar.

Mr Master
Wow, you don't miss a beat.

Like I said, do your thing. laughing

Endless Mike
Solar

abhilegend
Originally posted by Mr Master
Wow, you don't miss a beat.

Like I said, do your thing. laughing
Do we have any problem here?

"Id"
Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't know what's going on in there since I haven't read that story, but ...

What I see is Solar absorbing "an entire Universe" that was in the process of expanding into all realities to remake them.

That's a great feat. But is there more to it?

It seems he only absorbed the Universe that was expanding,
if this is the case, then that Universe hadn't expanded into every reality or even others,
otherwise he would've had to absorb more than just that Universe.

Again, I'm speculating cause I'm basing my idea from the scans.


Anyway ...

Team Excalibur stopped a collapse of all realities,
and in fact re-built all those realities in one page.

They did this with a portion of Matrix/Merlin's power-source.
(MJJ > this Merlin)

The union between Solar, and Void recreated the Valiant, and Image verse. That happened in the first issue. In the final book Solar time travels to the point where the conception took place, and absorbs the energy capable of creating, uniting, and ultimately destroy an entire Omniverse.

Glorificus
If it's 616 Jaspers, then he wins.

238 is more of a toss-up, IMO.

"Id"
Originally posted by Glorificus
If it's 616 Jaspers, then he wins.

238 is more of a toss-up, IMO.

Why?

What puts 616 Jaspers beyond Solar?

Prep-Man
Originally posted by "Id"
He is one of the few characters, that are in the same weight class with HoM Wanda or Spectre w/Logoz.

What did Spectre W/Logoz do?

"Id"
Originally posted by Prep-Man
What did Spectre W/Logoz do? http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/The_Logoz

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