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who wins?

Team 1. Too much power, me thinks.

Team one I think BRB can tango with the WW for a bit Morg should destroy Firestorm.

team one

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Team one I think BRB can tango with the WW for a bit Morg should destroy Firestorm.

If anything, WW is the weak link. She'd be taken out with little effort.

firestorm tips the scales in team two's favor. morg is an idiot. or don't people remember when he was fighting terrax instead of helping fight tyrant. firestorm cages him since i've never seen morg use matter transmutation powers. he's locked in an atomic cell. from then on, firestorm lends a hand to wondy who is holding beta at bay.

Originally posted by Galan007


If anything, WW is the weak link. She'd be taken out with little effort.

Little effort?

Do explain. Wonder Woman's tango'd with the best of the best before. She's not all that shabby.

Originally posted by fangirl101
morg is an idiot. or don't people remember when he was fighting terrax instead of helping fight tyrant. ...

Team one wins all day.

Team 1 in a stomp

Originally posted by tdawg14
Team 1 in a stomp

Haha. No.

I feel the former teams wins here, but most definitely not in a stomp. They'll know they were in a fight.

Team One wins soundly.

Wonder-woman is being under-rated. Team one prevails though

Originally posted by Soljer
Little effort?

Do explain. Wonder Woman's tango'd with the best of the best before. She's not all that shabby. True, but I still see Bob beating her soundly. *shrugs*

Originally posted by fangirl101
firestorm tips the scales in team two's favor. morg is an idiot. or don't people remember when he was fighting terrax instead of helping fight tyrant. firestorm cages him since i've never seen morg use matter transmutation powers. he's locked in an atomic cell. from then on, firestorm lends a hand to wondy who is holding beta at bay. nah i deduce it's wonder woman that clouds your judgment nvr...

team two loses

Firestorm Easily BFR's Morg. Or Merges Wondy into his matrix and pwns them both.

Hmm, Diana is the weak link here and team 1 is ver competent..Id say they take it for the majority. FS can only do so much with Diana's limited contribution.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Hmm, Diana is the weak link here and team 1 is ver competent..Id say they take it for the majority. FS can only do so much with Diana's limited contribution.
Limited? Bullshit. She's a better fighter than anyone on the field. And her reflexes are superior to anyone on the field. Plus she's got better defense and a one hitter quitter. And Morg is liable to fight his own teamate.

Morg is probably the only herald that knows anything about MA, he isn't that terribe you know. Diana's MA ability is incredible, but with her underwhealming stats she can only tangle with top tiers for so long. FS is powerful, but he can't single handily hold agaisnt 2 top tiers.

BRB has more power than anyone on team 2. And Morg has the PC, so he should be able to undo any matter transmutation FS does...

But I don't know much about Morg. Nor do I like him. And Diana is sexy. So Team 2 for me.

Sure Diana could just fight in the nude for a auto-win, but if she decides to play fair I don't see how she can seriously threaten these 2 guys. FS would beat morg seperatly IMO.

She's got energy blast covered.
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/scan0036-1.jpg
Her speed and reflexes are better than anyone on the field.
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/26/1228691_560x867.jpg
They aren't hitting any harder than this guy.
http://www.picamatic.com/view/1228393_job59fa/

Originally posted by Enyalus
BRB has more power than anyone on team 2. And Morg has the PC, so he should be able to undo any matter transmutation FS does...

But I don't know much about Morg. Nor do I like him. And Diana is sexy. So Team 2 for me.
can you post one time that Morg does any matter manipulation. Please. Show us morg doing anything more than charging in and swinging fist and his cosmic ax.

Originally posted by fangirl101
They aren't hitting any harder than this guy.
http://www.picamatic.com/view/1228393_job59fa/

BRB one-shots planets...

Diana has been killed in two hits by Superman in an issue of Superman/Batman.

Originally posted by Enyalus
BRB one-shots planets...

Diana has been killed in two hits by Superman in an issue of Superman/Batman.
No. She hasn't. She's alive and well. Superman One Shots planets and more Sun amped. And he didn't kill Diana. And she wasn't even fighting. And what good is his one shotting when She's far faster than he? His One shotting is going to do what against the Shield of Aegis? Nothing. Bounce.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. She hasn't. She's alive and well. Superman One Shots planets and more Sun amped. And he didn't kill Diana. And she wasn't even fighting. And what good is his one shotting when She's far faster than he? His One shotting is going to do what against the Shield of Aegis? Nothing. Bounce.

Bill has crazy magic and great status. Not that he wins the majority against Diana, but its close. BRB can ko her in my opinion.

Originally posted by Bentley
Bill has crazy magic and great status. Not that he wins the majority against Diana, but its close. BRB can ko her in my opinion.
Zeus, Circe, And Ares have better magic. And she's taken some of their best shots. She's just far faster than he is in an actual fight. And it's not like she's Rogue. She's damned near as strong as Superman. That that amount of speed, strength and skill, you'd have to outstrip her in speed to be even with her.

BRB can go toe to toe against Stardust not holding back. Heralds travel galaxies for living, they have more than a light year a second speed. He has speed to hold there. He won't ko her with magic, but that will make up for Diana's superior defenses.

As I see it BRB is stronger (with the hammer, he really one-shots planets), she is more skilled and she wins it in the end.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. She hasn't.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_016-SupermanBatman015.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_017-SupermanBatman015.jpg

Two shots to take her out of commission. Then killing her with her own lasso. BRB's striking power >> Superman's.

Originally posted by Enyalus
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_016-SupermanBatman015.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_017-SupermanBatman015.jpg

Two shots to take her out of commission. Then killing her with her own lasso. BRB's striking power >> Superman's.
You fail so hard it's not funny. That's not even Diana from New Earth. EPIC FAIL. You get a big ASS F for using alternate universes. What kind of debator uses a wonder woman who's bracers actually get broken by Superman? What the hell? And even then, She's not trying to fight him in that alternate reality.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. She hasn't. She's alive and well. Superman One Shots planets and more Sun amped. And he didn't kill Diana. And she wasn't even fighting. And what good is his one shotting when She's far faster than he? His One shotting is going to do what against the Shield of Aegis? Nothing. Bounce.

Show me superman one shotting a planet and yes you can even use sun dipped superman.

Superman never one, two, or three shotted a planet.

Brb would take wonder woman head completely off and thats being generous.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me superman one shotting a planet and yes you can even use sun dipped superman.

Superman never one, two, or three shotted a planet.

Brb would take wonder woman head completely off and thats being generous.
Superman was Sundipped and didn't. And She wasn't even trying to fight him. Your wanking irks me. BRb can't take wondy's head off when she's faster than him. And can block his shots with her Abstract level shielding. Unless you think he hits harder than the shattered god or the combined greek pantheon. yeah. Sit back.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman was Sundipped and didn't. And She wasn't even trying to fight him. Your wanking irks me. BRb can't take wondy's head off when she's faster than him. And can block his shots with her Abstract level shielding. Unless you think he hits harder than the shattered god or the combined greek pantheon. yeah. Sit back.

OOOOOK, him being sundipped doesnt mean that he can bust planets open or even hit as hard as brb. Just like you always ask for on panel proof then can you show me some on panel proof of superman hitting harder then brb which cause two planets to exploid.

Brb has some many tools that he can use against wonder woman that it aint even funny. He is called a god for a reason and he has proven nthat he has the power to be above top tier.

Originally posted by carver9
Brb has some many tools that he can use against wonder woman that it aint even funny. He is called a god for a reason and he has proven nthat he has the power to be above top tier.



Does ANYONE call BRB a god? He is kind of a Korbinite with a hammer.

Originally posted by Bentley
Does ANYONE call BRB a god? He is kind of a Korbinite with a hammer.

With godly powers and yes he has been called the thunder god also.

Originally posted by fangirl101
You fail so hard it's not funny. That's not even Diana from New Earth. EPIC FAIL. You get a big ASS F for using alternate universes. What kind of debator uses a wonder woman who's bracers actually get broken by Superman? What the hell? And even then, She's not trying to fight him in that alternate reality.

Heh. I didn't even pay attention to her bracer being broken until you pointed it out. Thanks for that. But for the record, that's still New Earth. But Supes' timeline got screwed up. Same universe and heroes, just what would have happened if Superman was not raised by Martha and John.

Originally posted by carver9
With godly powers and yes he has been called the thunder god also.
Wondy has been called A goddess or Godling many times.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Heh. I didn't even pay attention to her bracer being broken until you pointed it out. Thanks for that. But for the record, that's still New Earth. But Supes' timeline got screwed up. Same universe and heroes, just what would have happened if Superman was not raised by Martha and John.
No. That's not the same universe. Anytime the time line is changed, then everything is changed. If that were Wondy, her bracers would have never broken.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. That's not the same universe. Anytime the time line is changed, then everything is changed. If that were Wondy, her bracers would have never broken.

Meh. Okay. Conceded.

I gave Team 2 the win anyhow.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Wondy has been called A goddess or Godling many times.

I never said that she wasnt called a god.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Meh. Okay. Conceded.

I gave Team 2 the win anyhow.
Really They do win becuz of FS. Wondy can Stalemate BRB. I Don't think she can beat Morg. HE'S more powerful than BRB or Wondy. But FS is on a whole other level. He totally pwns Morg who is a brick with an ax, for all his power cosmic. He never uses it.

Originally posted by Enyalus
BRB's striking power >> Superman's.



i'm also completely unconvinced morg>diana.

that said, i'm still not sure. bill is herald level, and no way FS is so powerful that he takes out bill that easily. i'd need to see some hard proof of FS taking out another herald-level being, before i'd concede he takes bill out for a majority--and even then i might ask to see him do it against someone possessing bill's level of magic.

this is pretty much a toss up, imo.

FS owning herald level beings
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs99.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs100.jpg

More
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs124.jpg

Owns Lashina with GL like powers
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs126.jpg

Beats above the top tier kalibak who just beat Orion
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs132.jpg

Thor
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/fs_thor1.jpg

Originally posted by leonidas


BRB casually busts planets with his shots. Supes doesn't seem to have that kind of physical power from the arcs I've read.

(I read more DC stuff than I do Marvel.)

Just an observation.

Originally posted by fangirl101
FS owning herald level beings
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs99.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs100.jpg

More
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs124.jpg

Owns Lashina with GL like powers
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs126.jpg

Beats above the top tier kalibak who just beat Orion
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs132.jpg

Thor
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/fs_thor1.jpg

gonna call NONE of those convincing, FG. i have no idea who the chick in the first scans are, and have no idea why she would be considered a herald leveller. orion appeared already worked over and a containment block of titanium won't hold bill at all. lashina he didn't even beat, nor is her powers on the level of a great GL. and thor he put in an energy sphere that he would simply absorb a moment later.

i saw no evidence at all that he could manipulate the body of a true herald level being, and no chance he could affect bill's hammer anymore than he could impact a GL ring directly. perhaps he could transmute bill, but without proof i'm not buying it. i also don't think he could transmute morg, though bill is the most powerful of these 4, imo.

it's very close, and the dc team could certainly win a few, but i would give team marvel a very slight advantage in this match.

Originally posted by Enyalus
BRB casually busts planets with his shots. Supes doesn't seem to have that kind of physical power from the arcs I've read.

(I read more DC stuff than I do Marvel.)

Just an observation.

he doesn't "casually' bust planets . . . i would concede that the point is debatable, (bill IS striking with a skyfather level weapon . . .) but even still, i certainly would not say bill strikes>>superman's . . .

Team one decisively.

Firestorm is exceedingly vulnerable to the people on team 1. They both have weapons with sharp edges.

One a hammer with a sharp back end, and the other a double sided axe.

Plus, both are more combat oriented than FS.

And WW isn't taking either for a clearcut majority.

And Superman never oneshot a planet Fannie Mae. Sunamped or otherwise.

Stop attributing feats where there are none.

He's said it, but characters say many things. We don't take it as gospel until done on panel.

Originally posted by leonidas
he doesn't "casually' bust planets . . . i would concede that the point is debatable, (bill IS striking with a skyfather level weapon . . .) but even still, i certainly would not say bill strikes>>superman's . . .

Okay. It isn't casual. But it's not like he's putting absolutely everything behind it and using maximum force, either.

Any better?

Well this depends on who takes out who first. If morg can hold off FS until bill is done with diana then team 1 win but if Diana can manage to hold off Bill long enough for FS to beat morg then team 2 wins. However if bil fights firestorm and Morg fights diana then team 1 all day.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
However if bil fights firestorm and Morg fights diana then team 1 all day.

I think I agree with that.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Well this depends on who takes out who first. If morg can hold off FS until bill is done with diana then team 1 win but if Diana can manage to hold off Bill long enough for FS to beat morg then team 2 wins. However if bil fights firestorm and Morg fights diana then team 1 all day.
Neither Bill nor Morg can do anything to Firestorm. He's got them beat in versatility and can encage either in indestructible metals. Wondy is faster than both in combat. And for Bill'S skyfather weapon, Wondy has four of them on her.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Okay. It isn't casual. But it's not like he's putting absolutely everything behind it and using maximum force, either.

Any better?

a little.

the one time i saw bill blow a planet apart though, he DID put pretty much everything into it--AND he was uber po'd. even thor doesn't half-a$$ it when a planet needs blowing up.

anyway, the reason i say FS could be a problem is because of his intangibility. he certainly could keep either morg or bill busy, i just think that without the ability to manipulate them directly, he couldn't put them down and they would take him out eventually. so i think team 2 COULD win, but i like the marvel duo better. it's a good match-up though.

Originally posted by leonidas
a little.

the one time i saw bill blow a planet apart though, he DID put pretty much everything into it--AND he was uber po'd. even thor doesn't half-a$$ it when a planet needs blowing up.

Meh. He one-shots two different planets in one issue when fighting Stardust.