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The Reborn Darth Krayt has returned to kill Wyyrlok and reclaim his rightful place on the throne of the Sith Order. Wyyrlok has anticipated this and struck a deal with the Muur-possessed Celeste Morne, promising that if Muur helps him take down the Krayt, he can have Krayt's body to himself. Muur agrees.

1. Sabers

2. Force

3. All-out

Who prevails?

Krayt wins by himself

Team.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Wyyrlok has anticipated this and struck a duel with the Muur-possessed Celeste Morne.

Originally posted by SunRazer
I'm liking the fact that this is coming from someone who makes unintelligible sentences like "struck a duel".

I know not what you speak of

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Dayum that's a big time difference. 9:45 PM here.

Anyhow, not really sure how much more powerful Reborn Krayt is than Vong Krayt. He said he's power multiplied, but that's obviously a hyperbole.

Saber goes to Krayt for sure tho.

Not sure about Force and all-out, but I think Krayt would win a sabers-only fight.

In a sabers-only situation, Wyyrlok has proven himself to be competent enough to not get stomped by Krayt. It was definately a one-sided duel, however.

Celeste/Muur was roughly equal to Vong Krayt. The gap between Reborn and Vong Krayt is quite large, however (Reborn Krayt has shown he can speedblitz those who would give Vong Krayt a good time, in Cade Skywalker), so I doubt that would be the case here. I'd say Celeste/Muur would perform about as well as Wyyrlok did.

This will be a tough fight for Krayt, but he has already proven himself capable of handling multiple individuals trained to fight in groups at once, in the Imperial Knights, and Wyyrlok didn't appear to be able to mount any sort of counter-offensive against Krayt, so I doubt Celeste/Muur could, either. Krayt wins this in a tough fight.

Team.

Originally posted by Azronger
\(Reborn Krayt has shown he can speedblitz those who would give Vong Krayt a good time, in Cade Skywalker)
He can't blitz Cade.

Muur solos and kills his teammate for good measure.

Team :/

Wtf.

Krayt wasn't even stomping Wyyrlok, there's no way he's taking on Wyyrlok AND Muur, NO way.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He can't blitz Cade.

He kinda did, though.

When?

Never.

Wait, Zoltan is actually from Hungary?

We're neighbors!

Originally posted by MythLord
Wait, Zoltan is actually from Hungary?

We're neighbors!
Austria saved me

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Team :/

Wtf.

Krayt wasn't even stomping Wyyrlok, there's no way he's taking on Wyyrlok AND Muur, NO way.

For once I agree... Although Krayt was kinda stomping 'Lok in sabers.

Originally posted by MythLord
For once I agree... Although Krayt was kinda stomping 'Lok in sabers.
Yes.
Depends on the definition of stomping, tbh.

Originally posted by MythLord
Wait, Zoltan is actually from Hungary?

We're neighbors! where are u from

Wait, Bart, we are neighbors!

Originally posted by JKBart
where are u from

A place darker than hell...

A pawn shop!

Wollf's profile set makes me near suicidal.

Rick Harrison >> stupid overmotional Teenage Girl

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Wollf's profile set makes me near suicidal.
Just agressions for me.

Originally posted by carthage
Rick Harrison >> stupid overmotional Teenage Girl

Animated masterpiece > POS scripted reality show.

Chumlee would violate her

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Wollf's profile set makes me near suicidal.

Memes4dayz, boi!

Originally posted by MythLord
Wait, Zoltan is actually from Hungary?

We're neighbors!

My location was only below my name for the last 425 days. It's easy to miss

You assume I read yer genders and locations? Nah, m8, I just see the name and move on.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
When?

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Lmao.

Lol. Apparently managing to touch your opponent = blitzing.

What would you call it, then? Cade clearly couldn't react, and before he knew it, he was pinned to the ground.

I call it managing to get inside somebody's guard.

Call it what you will. Fact is, Krayt can beat Cade-level duelists while unarmed in less than one second.

The Rick Harrison memes are actually the greatest.

Dooku simultaneously speedblitzes Anakin and Obi-Wan Kenobi:

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LMFAO.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Muur solos and kills his teammate for good measure.

Where do you have Krayt?

Vader level. I have Muur higher then most.

Reborn Krayt on par with Vader? Why?

Karness Muur ahead of prime Vader? Also why?

Originally posted by SunRazer
Reborn Krayt on par with Vader? Why?

His lackluster feats.

Vader can't kill and revive Cade Skywalker with a touch, lol.

Besides, even Vong Krayt was far above the likes of Wyyrlok, who in turn, was well above those minion Sith that toppled the huge satellite dish.

Syndi you're almost as bad as ****in jmaggot

Originally posted by MythLord
Karness Muur ahead of prime Vader? Also why?

Well to be fair maybe not the Muur presented here in the OP but living Muur based off his spirit performance against Vong Krayt and his ability to potentially defeat Sidious with the aid of Early Empire era Vader and Vader not being willing to trade his current Sith master for Muur despite the possibility of freeing himself from Muur later on once he had grown in power.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Vader can't kill and revive Cade Skywalker with a touch, lol.

Besides, even Vong Krayt was far above the likes of Wyyrlok, who in turn, was well above those minion Sith that toppled the huge satellite dish.

Krayt was above any adept telekinetically and in the realm of Force lightning. IIRC it was two adepts that accomplished the feat you're referring to.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Syndi you're almost as bad as ****in jmaggot

*Shrug*

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Krayt was above any adept telekinetically and in the realm of Force lightning. IIRC it was two adepts that accomplished the feat you're referring to.

I said minions. Minions can still be adepts, lol. And Wyyrlok's still well above them, and Krayt >>> Wyyrlok.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Vader can't kill and revive Cade Skywalker with a touch, lol.

Besides, even Vong Krayt was far above the likes of Wyyrlok, who in turn, was well above those minion Sith that toppled the huge satellite dish.

If he knows Dark Transfer he could. Applying haxx powers to general raw power isn't the smartest thing to do, unless you think Nihilus is > Sidious because Sidious cannot kill an entire planet with a burp.

And for someone far above Wyyrlok, he seems to have his hands full with him. And didn't Wredd do that, y'know, a substantial amount of time after Krayt and Wyyrlok kicked the bucket, and with aid?

Originally posted by SunRazer
I said minions. Minions can still be adepts, lol. And Wyyrlok's still well above them, and Krayt >>> Wyyrlok.

"Minions can still be adepts, lol."

Did I say anything to the contrary?

Well. We certainly know Krayt's above them individually. The question of if he's above them together is an interesting one.

Originally posted by MythLord
If he knows Dark Transfer he could. Applying haxx powers to general raw power isn't the smartest thing to do, unless you think Nihilus is > Sidious because Sidious cannot kill an entire planet with a burp.

And for someone far above Wyyrlok, he seems to have his hands full with him. And didn't Wredd do that, y'know, a substantial amount of time after Krayt and Wyyrlok kicked the bucket, and with aid?

Oh this was post Krayt's death?

Originally posted by MythLord
If he knows Dark Transfer he could. Applying haxx powers to general raw power isn't the smartest thing to do, unless you think Nihilus is > Sidious because Sidious cannot kill an entire planet with a burp.

I obviously mean Vader can't do it even with Dark Transfer. Cade's kind of Maul-tier, lol.



He really didn't. He turned aside Wyyrlok's powers easily, gained the upper hand in the duel easily, and was only given pause when Wyyrlok used Memory Walk.



Substantial time? They died in 138 ABY, the second volume takes place between 138 - 140 ABY. Not to mention that Nihl was the head of the Order by that time, and he's not as powerful as Wyyrlok either.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
"Minions can still be adepts, lol."

Did I say anything to the contrary?

Yeah, you did. Either that, or you were adding in some irrelevant commentary.



Wredd etc. isn't particularly high up the Sith hierarchy. I doubt they seriously approached Wyyrlok, let alone Krayt.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Yeah, you did. Either that, or you were adding in some irrelevant commentary.



Wredd etc. isn't particularly high up the Sith hierarchy. I doubt they seriously approached Wyyrlok, let alone Krayt.

I think I just called them adepts instead of minions, lmao. Same thing different name. No need to get hostile about it.

Kanan wasn't particularly high up on the Jedi hierarchy. It didn't stop him and Ezra from accomplishing a high tier feat.

Also apparently Wredd accomplished this feat post Krayt's death meaning the quote doesn't apply.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I think I just called them adepts instead of minions, lmao. Same thing different name. No need to get hostile about it.

How was that hostile? Thicker skin please.



So? That's the point. Characters even higher than such characters would naturally be more powerful.



He did it within a year of Krayt's death, lol. If I can see proof of a substantial growth in power, I'll scale it down. But seeing as Nihl, who was weaker than Wyyrlok, became the Sith leader after Krayt's death, and to my understanding, Wredd wasn't anywhere near Nihl, I'm finding it hard to believe that Wredd compares to Wyyrlok and especially to Krayt.

Originally posted by Azronger
Call it what you will. Fact is, Krayt can beat Cade-level duelists while unarmed in less than one second.
The fight lasted longer than a second, lol. Also, that was more Cheapshot than speedblitz.

Originally posted by SunRazer
How was that hostile? Thicker skin please.



So? That's the point. Characters even higher than such characters would naturally be more powerful.



He did it within a year of Krayt's death, lol. If I can see proof of a substantial growth in power, I'll scale it down. But seeing as Nihl, who was weaker than Wyyrlok, became the Sith leader after Krayt's death, and to my understanding, Wredd wasn't anywhere near Nihl, I'm finding it hard to believe that Wredd compares to Wyyrlok and especially to Krayt.

You just seem to be making an issue out of something that's not there.

But how much more powerful is the question.

Depends on Nihl and Wredd's respective power growth tbh. Just to confirm though was the quote regarding Krayt's superiority before or after his Vong implants.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
You just seem to be making an issue out of something that's not there.

You seemed to be disputing my claim that they were minions, lol. I'm obliged to inquire into that. But that's enough of this.



Wyyrlok's power is stated to be unsurpassed save for Krayt, whose skills in Lightning and telekinesis "far surpassed" that of any other Sith in his Order. That was Vong Krayt, too. Reborn Krayt claims that his powers were multiplied. Exaggerated? Yes, but I think we can conclude that he grew significantly more powerful. Wredd isn't even in the same library, let alone the same page, as Reborn Krayt in terms of Force power and mastery, lol.

I wasn't disputing you claim of anything tbh. I just called them something different. Jeezus Nova quit being so jumpy.

So the quote refers to Vong Krayt, gotcha.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I wasn't disputing you claim of anything tbh. I just called them something different. Jeezus Nova quit being so jumpy.

You deliberately decided to call them something else, so I was clarifying that they're not mutually exclusive. You're the one who called me hostile for doing that, whereas I was the one who called for an end to this, and I'm the jumpy one? Please.



Yeah, and I asked you where you ranked Reborn Krayt, obviously.

Originally posted by SunRazer
You deliberately decided to call them something else, so I was clarifying that they're not mutually exclusive. You're the one who called me hostile for doing that, whereas I was the one who called for an end to this, and I'm the jumpy one? Please.



Yeah, and I asked you where you ranked Reborn Krayt, obviously.

Deliberately? Lol. If you mean I called them that hoping for some sort of reaction you'd be wrong. I called them the first term that came to mind. And yes, you are the jumpy one making an issue out of the word I used to describe them.

And I told you.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Deliberately? Lol. If you mean I called them that hoping for some sort of reaction you'd be wrong. I called them the first term that came to mind. And yes, you are the jumpy one making an issue out of the word I used to describe them.

I didn't say you wanted a reaction, but you deliberately called them something else all the same. It's not making an issue of something to follow up something you're curious on, lol. You then decided to call me hostile for it. I think we all know who's jumpy here, lol.

If you're so eager to prove that you're not jumpy, you might want to leave this alone.



Still think he's only on par with Vader? Alright.

I'm not eager to prove anything to anyone on KMC given the fact that it's KMC.

Being curious is fine but your initial response was to accuse me of making irrelevant commentary because I used a different term then you.

My initial response was "minions can still be adepts", which was me clarifying that the two aren't mutually exclusive. There was no accusation there.

You decided to deflect that, then I answered your deflection by "accusing" you of one of two things - which was hardly hostile, as you would accuse me of in your very next post.

I'm almost always detached when I'm on the Internet, lol. There's no reason for me to be flooded by emotions or anything. You don't need to worry about hostility.

Why? Why accuse me of some ulterior motive in the first place?

How was that some "ulterior motive"? I only commented on what you did, not what you may have intended to achieve as a result.

We really shouldn't be arguing for an entire page over the fact that I made note of something you said, lol.

Maybe accusing me of having an ulterior motive was the wrong example.

But when I said that Wredd and that kid were "adepts" instead of "minions" it was certainly a jab to say that it was meaningless commentary and for no real reason that I can tell.

Were you simply irritated that I was questioning you?

Originally posted by SunRazer


I'm almost always detached when I'm on the Internet, lol. There's no reason for me to be flooded by emotions or anything.

If you want to just end it here we can.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Maybe accusing me of having an ulterior motive was the wrong example.

You may not have accused me of having an ulterior motive when i said that Wredd and that kid were "adepts" instead of "minions" but it was certainly a jab for no real reason that I can tell.

Were you simply irritated that I was questioning you?

Let's make this clear. It starts with me calling them "minions", and in your follow-up post you exclusively call them "adepts". Since they're not mutually exclusive but have different connotations, I decide to clarify that. You then deflect my clarification by asking if you ever said otherwise, and I reply by answering in the affirmative, noting that the only alternative was that you were making an irrelevant change of diction. You then call me hostile. My motive the entire time was to clarify and observe - you were the only one who called another user anything in particular ("hostile". There was never a jab - I was noting things, that's all.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I guess you're right. If you want to just end it here we can.

Oh, I'm more than happy to do that, lol.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Let's make this clear. It starts with me calling them "minions", and in your follow-up post you exclusively call them "adepts". Since they're not mutually exclusive but have different connotations, I decide to clarify that. You then deflect my clarification by asking if you ever said otherwise, and I reply by answering in the affirmative, noting that the only alternative was that you were making an irrelevant change of diction. You then call me hostile. My motive the entire time was to clarify and observe - you were the only one who called another user anything in particular ("hostile". There was never a jab - I was noting things, that's all.

I just don't think there was really any need to clarify. It was simply different word usage.

I guess this was all just a big misunderstanding though. Glad we could sort it out.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Krayt was above any adept telekinetically and in the realm of Force lightning. IIRC it was two adepts that accomplished the feat you're referring to.

Yeah there were two, but they aren't the most powerful in the One Sith Order. Above Wredd is Stryfe, above Stryfe are Nihl and Talon, above both is Wyyrlok. Vong Krayt is far more powerful than Wyyrlok, and Reborn Krayt is more powerful than Vong Krayt.

One of them as an Imp Knight, but wasn't that impressive anyway.

Also, Wredd's master was kicking Wredd's ass wholesale at the beginning of the series, and Jao Assam is a fairly junior Imperial Knight, below the likes of Draco and Sinde.

In other words, relative insects to Vong Krayt, who is quite noticeably below his Reborn self. Krayt would play frisby with that satellite.

Draco and Sinde are the best Knight's of the Order aren't they?