Scorpion vs. Sabretooth

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Marvelknight
Who takes it?

Battlehammer
sabertooth

Phantom Zone
Scorpion gets WTF pawned.

psycho gundam
which scorpion? then again they both lose.

Marvelknight
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Scorpion gets WTF pawned.

The one from Marvel, not MK.

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Marvelknight
The one from Marvel, not MK.

Yeah I know.... confused Dunno what MK is.

jadervason
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah I know.... confused Dunno what MK is.

Quanchi murdered his family.

Mr. Slippyfist
Scorpion shoots tail goo at him...

Spurt, spurt

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Marvelknight
The one from Marvel, not MK.

umm..........the one from mortal combat>>>>Marvel one.

psycho gundam
mk? wtf

there is matt gargan scorp and carmella whateverthefck her last name is(the chick with the poison hand)
the MK one doesn't count.

jadervason
Originally posted by psycho gundam
mk? wtf

there is matt gargan scorp and carmella whateverthefck her last name is(the chick with the poison hand)
the MK one doesn't count.

man this is srs bznes

Battlehammer
Originally posted by psycho gundam
mk? wtf

there is matt gargan scorp and carmella whateverthefck her last name is(the chick with the poison hand)
the MK one doesn't count.

yea we know.

Bentley
To be honest I came here convinced that it was a MK thread. Thats how highly I think of the Scorpion.

Scoobless
So is it Gargan in green suit, Gargan with Symbiote or chick with poison powers?

Marvelknight
Originally posted by Scoobless
So is it Gargan in green suit, Gargan with Symbiote or chick with poison powers?

Gargan.

Battlehammer
......................that did not even answer the question............

Marvelknight
Originally posted by Battlehammer
......................that did not even answer the question............

In the green suit.

llagrok
Sabes.

Battlehammer
sabertooth in a stomp pritty much

Scoobless
Meh, Scorp is faster and stronger, his skin is near bulletproof and the suit is armoured ... not sure Sabes can take this one. If he can it definitely wont be an easy fight.

Battlehammer
..............how is he faster?

also he not that closes to bullet prove. sabertooth could ripp him apart.

sabertooth also a far better fighter.

scorpions also a morron.

also scorpion really can't put sabertooth down while sabertooth can with but a few swipes kill scoprion.

Scoobless
Scorpion is as fast as Spider-Man ... which is faster than Sabretooth.

The only reason Spider-Man beats Scorpion is his spider sense.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by Scoobless
The only reason Spider-Man beats Scorpion is his spider sense.

A pissed off Spidey beat the crap out of Gargan in ASM #146.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Scoobless
Scorpion is as fast as Spider-Man ... which is faster than Sabretooth.

The only reason Spider-Man beats Scorpion is his spider sense.
............umm who says spidermans faster then sabertooth, becuases he not.............hell spiderman has not even shown to be faster then wolverine let a lone sabertooth........


...........no spiderman beats scorpion becuases scorpion inconistent and retarded.

Endrict Nuul
Creed wins 8-9/10

Scoobless
Originally posted by Battlehammer
............umm who says spidermans faster then sabertooth,

Lots of people.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Scoobless
Lots of people.
well they be wrong...........a lot of people say spiderman completely out classes wolverine in speed and yet............he has no feats of speed which Logan can not match.

Marvelknight
Originally posted by Battlehammer
............umm who says spidermans faster then sabertooth, becuases he not.............hell spiderman has not even shown to be faster then wolverine let a lone sabertooth........


...........no spiderman beats scorpion becuases scorpion inconistent and retarded.

laughing

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Marvelknight
laughing

whats so funny?




I assume your laughing at the scorpion being retarded part, which is quite funny and sad, becuases it true.

redhotrash
Didnt you get the memo? Spider-man is only peak human in speed and has never danced between automatic gun fire. Also Wolverine and Sabretooth can both shoot lasers from their eyes, lift 40+ tons, and can cut through reality with their claws.

::TNA_TITAN::
Scorpion

Battlehammer
Originally posted by redhotrash
Didnt you get the memo? Spider-man is only peak human in speed and has never danced between automatic gun fire. Also Wolverine and Sabretooth can both shoot lasers from their eyes, lift 40+ tons, and can cut through reality with their claws.
.........wolverine not peak human............he superhuman and always has been..........


and sabertooth is well within the superhuman ranges................the dude body is so denses mis marvel was unable to uses a nerve pinch on him..........


also Logan has dodge automatic firer and caught a bullet before.............


do you always have to be so ignorant?

superbatman86
Originally posted by Marvelknight
laughing You do know that Sabes has merked Spiderman and Punisher at the same time before right?Dropped a ceiling on them?This ringing any bells?

jinzin
Originally posted by Marvelknight
laughing

no expression
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=3733264
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=3733373


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http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2945/sabes5qj9.jpg

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1771/sabes4fz2.jpg

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/8523/sabes3pg4.jpg

Placidity
I do have to agree with the concensus that Scorpion is retarded. And even if he wasn't, he'd still lose...

zopzop
Necro bump! Am I crazy thinking Scorpion wins with moderate difficulty?

DarkSaint85
I want to say on paper, Marc has better stats, but he's more of a loser than Creed.....could be wrong though.

zopzop
Yeah, on paper Scorpion should win. Crazy durability (bulletproof even to high caliber projectiles), good combat speed, good strength (at least Spider-Man level), and ranged attacks via his tail blaster.

Have they ever faced off in a comic? Would be a fun fight.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I want to say on paper, Marc has better stats, but he's more of a loser than Creed.....could be wrong though.

Moon Knight is not in this thread.

Mungi is not amused.

It's Mac. MacDonald Gargan.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah, on paper Scorpion should win. Crazy durability (bulletproof even to high caliber projectiles), good combat speed, good strength (at least Spider-Man level), and ranged attacks via his tail blaster.

Have they ever faced off in a comic? Would be a fun fight.

No, they haven't. Scorpion is always too busy getting his ass kicked.

He has no "crazy durability", not against bullets, at least - it's his suit that does. Against small gunfire. And even that varies a lot, since he keeps changing it. Make it totally bulletproof, that still offers no protection from someone like Creed, who slices through Techno-Organic metal or Thor-Ultron.

His most durable and the most powerful battlesuit ever (which is a thing of the past, but I guess it's the one you fell in love with, zop) still had obvious weak spots, such as his mouth. It was exploited twice.

It's a good match in the sense that both of them are written as physically superior to the heroes they're fighting.

Only Creed actually succeeded in becoming Logan's archnemesis, while Mac got fodderized and desperately changed his armor every day and twice on Sundays, hoping it'd make a difference.

Alex_Ferrana
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Moon Knight is not in this thread.

Mungi is not amused.

It's Mac. MacDonald Gargan.



No, they haven't. Scorpion is always too busy getting his ass kicked.

He has no "crazy durability", not against bullets, at least - it's his suit that does. Against small gunfire. And even that varies a lot, since he keeps changing it. Make it totally bulletproof, that still offers no protection from someone like Creed, who slices through Techno-Organic metal or Thor-Ultron.

His most durable and the most powerful battlesuit ever (which is a thing of the past, but I guess it's the one you fell in love with, zop) still had obvious weak spots, such as his mouth. It was exploited twice.

It's a good match in the sense that both of them are written as physically superior to the heroes they're fighting.

Only Creed actually succeeded in becoming Logan's archnemesis, while Mac got fodderized and desperately changed his armor every day and twice on Sundays, hoping it'd make a difference.

Indeed. Sabretooth wrecks that bozo.

StiltmanFTW
I actually like Scorpion a lot.

Marvel never treats him with respect, though.

Even massive amps don't seem to help him much - which is just sad sad

He should be at least as formidable as the Lizard, power-wise --- is he? Hell, no.

Alex_Ferrana
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I actually like Scorpion a lot.

Marvel never treats him with respect, though.

Even massive amps don't seem to help him much - which is just sad sad

He should be at least as formidable as the Lizard, power-wise --- is he? Hell, no.

Unfortunately, but Creed still wins more times than not.

StiltmanFTW
That he does.

steverules_2
Slice his new jaw off

Smurph
Scorpion could mess Creed up but he'd basically have to play a perfect game to keep it up long enough to put Creed down for the count without Creed rending him apart.

DarkSaint85
Marc would lose to Viktor.

StyleTime
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
while Mac got fodderized and desperately changed his armor every day and twice on Sundays, hoping it'd make a difference.
They even had, in canon, Spider-man 2099 mention that future historians recorded Scorpion as a "minor annoyance" for Spiderman (616) during their fight.

Ironically though, that was one of Scorpion's more impressive recent showings, since at least Spiderman 2099 had to resort to rewiring a bunch of killer robots to win.

zopzop
Originally posted by StyleTime
They even had, in canon, Spider-man 2099 mention that future historians recorded Scorpion as a "minor annoyance" for Spiderman (616) during their fight.

Ironically though, that was one of Scorpion's more impressive recent showings, since at least Spiderman 2099 had to resort to rewiring a bunch of killer robots to win.
You referring to this?
https://i.postimg.cc/hfN1HQrh/qfgJDiJ.jpg
If anything, it's giving props to Scorpion saying those who call him a minor annoyance never actually faced off against him.

StyleTime
Originally posted by zopzop
You referring to this?
https://i.postimg.cc/hfN1HQrh/qfgJDiJ.jpg
If anything, it's giving props to Scorpion saying those who call him a minor annoyance never actually faced off against him.
Keep in mind, Scorpion is in a one-time, amped up suit from Alchemax there. Spiderman 2099 has never met Scorpion before, so he thinks this is the norm. The increased performance doesn't match what he's read in history books, but his history books were likely referencing standard Scorpion.

Around this time, Scorpion was getting embarrassed to varying degrees by half the Spider-verse: Spidey-Ock, Miles Morales, Spider Woman, Taskmaster, Lizard, Venom, etc. The 2099 historians were pretty accurate, but Spidey 2099 was just unlucky and ran into a special suit.

zopzop
Originally posted by StyleTime
Keep in mind, Scorpion is in a one-time, amped up suit from Alchemax there. Spiderman 2099 has never met Scorpion before, so he thinks this is the norm. The increased performance doesn't match what he's read in history books, but his history books were likely referencing standard Scorpion.

Around this time, Scorpion was getting embarrassed to varying degrees by half the Spider-verse: Spidey-Ock, Miles Morales, Spider Woman, Taskmaster, Lizard, Venom, etc. The 2099 historians were pretty accurate, but Spidey 2099 was just unlucky and ran into a special suit.
Ah. So he's legit trash tier then. Sad.

StiltmanFTW
I've lost the track of how many times Mac got a "new" (often looks the same) battlesuit that was supposed to solve all of his problems.

With his superhuman physique, the suit should be just a bonus, the icing on the cake... not the "omg it's almost Sentry-level and I still got my ass kicked smh" bs.

Alex_Ferrana
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I've lost the track of how many times Mac got a "new" (often looks the same) battlesuit that was supposed to solve all of his problems.

With his superhuman physique, the suit should be just a bonus, the icing on the cake... not the "omg it's almost Sentry-level and I still got my ass kicked smh" bs.

Indeed. Sometimes Scorpions wins, but it's more like a luck or simple PIS in his favour. He is still too much of a jobber.

Robtard
Scorpion should be physically strong enough to beat Sabretooth into a pulp without a power-suit.

But going from showings, Creed wipes his ass with Mac's face.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Robtard
Scorpion should be physically strong enough to beat Sabretooth into a pulp without a power-suit.

Creed recovered quickly from several punches in the row from Class 100+ Langkowski.

Then there's his fight with Essex's Superman analogues.

Mac can't overload that healing factor, unless Creed is just sitting there and lets him do the work.

...

Even then, knowing Gargan and his luck, he'll end up hurting himself.

Originally posted by Robtard
But going from showings, Creed wipes his ass with Mac's face.

It's a shame Mac can't even reach Lizard's level after all these years.

He should've kept the bulky suit and "Scorpion Sense" --- then again, if the goddamn symbiote didn't help him improve his performance (on the contrary, it made it worse), nothing will.

Maybe Ed Boon doesn't like Marvel having a "Scorpion" of their own and bribes writers to have him jobbing laughing out loud But even pre-1992, you could always count on Gargan getting on all fours and bending over.

Alex_Ferrana
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Creed recovered quickly from several punches in the row from Class 100+ Langkowski.

Then there's his fight with Essex's Superman analogues.

Mac can't overload that healing factor, unless Creed is just sitting there and lets him do the work.

...

Even then, knowing Gargan and his luck, he'll end up hurting himself.



It's a shame Mac can't even reach Lizard's level after all these years.

He should've kept the bulky suit and "Scorpion Sense" --- then again, if the goddamn symbiote didn't help him improve his performance (on the contrary, it made it worse), nothing will.

Maybe Ed Boon doesn't like Marvel having a "Scorpion" of their own and bribes writers to have him jobbing laughing out loud But even pre-1992, you could always count on Gargan getting on all fours and bending over.

Creed also taken a pummeling from enraged Amadeus Cho's Hulk, and next just smiled and got up. Without adamantium!

And Creed wasn't even knocked out. Even if Scorpion is stronger, he isn't really KOing Creed, nor turning him into a punching bag too. Besides, if Mac Gargan fights Creed without his suit, he is utterly screwed (lol, he still screwed, anyway).

Robtard
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Creed recovered quickly from several punches in the row from Class 100+ Langkowski.

Then there's his fight with Essex's Superman analogues.

Mac can't overload that healing factor, unless Creed is just sitting there and lets him do the work.

...

Even then, knowing Gargan and his luck, he'll end up hurting himself.



It's a shame Mac can't even reach Lizard's level after all these years.

He should've kept the bulky suit and "Scorpion Sense" --- then again, if the goddamn symbiote didn't help him improve his performance (on the contrary, it made it worse), nothing will.

Maybe Ed Boon doesn't like Marvel having a "Scorpion" of their own and bribes writers to have him jobbing laughing out loud But even pre-1992, you could always count on Gargan getting on all fours and bending over.

Are you talking about his fights with "The Children", those Sinister creations that have a patchwork of powers? Didn't he get his ass kicked and barely escaped? I'm going on 90s memory here, so bare with me if I got it all wrong.

Creed's also had lower showings, on average, Scorp should be physically strong enough to beat him down and KO, at least for a bit.

But as noted, he won't going by how he's consistently written to under perform and he a joke.

Maybe the MCU can do a proper Scorpion...

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Robtard
Are you talking about his fights with "The Children", those Sinister creations that have a patchwork of powers? Didn't he get his ass kicked and barely escaped? I'm going on 90s memory here, so bare with me if I got it all wrong.

Yes, The Children.

Killed the first one, got close to offing another; then exposed the group to the horrors in his mind... no shame to "cheat" against such numbers:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=509407&pagenumber=5

Originally posted by Robtard
Creed's also had lower showings, on average, Scorp should be physically strong enough to beat him down and KO, at least for a bit.

On average, Mac couldn't handle himself even with massive amps of different sources in last two decades.

Spider-Man's barrage of punches failed to stop Logan from smiling --- Creed is even tougher than that, here's the scene mentioned by Alex:

https://i.postimg.cc/RFx7cpfZ/RCO014.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/wjPcBjjJ/RCO015.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/rwzNcrMM/RCO016.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/1zq0V18d/RCO017.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/YqdzJ3cd/RCO018.jpg

Originally posted by Robtard
But as noted, he won't going by how he's consistently written to under perform and he a joke.

Maybe the MCU can do a proper Scorpion...

Wouldn't count on it.

Because MCU already did Scorpion --- you need to re-watch Homecoming.

Sadly, they've decided to go with the Ultimate Universe version (Miles' villain):

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Maximus_Gargan_(Earth-1610)

Smurph
Originally posted by Robtard

Maybe the MCU can do a proper Scorpion...

https://i.postimg.cc/RC8sXBmn/SMH-EW-Scorpion.png

MCU Scorpion lol ^

Robtard
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Forgot about that end scene. But they could build from that if they wanted and do it proper. Give him powers and a suit, bam.

Classic NES
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I actually like Scorpion a lot.

Marvel never treats him with respect, though.

Even massive amps don't seem to help him much - which is just sad sad

He should be at least as formidable as the Lizard, power-wise --- is he? Hell, no.

He's my favorite spidey villain. Too bad he's underused.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Classic NES
He's my favorite spidey villain. Too bad he's underused.

He's being used a lot.

...

Just as a cumrag sad

Originally posted by Robtard
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Forgot about that end scene. But they could build from that if they wanted and do it proper. Give him powers and a suit, bam.

Then Peter should invite him to his apartment.

What could possibly go wrong with that?

Alex_Ferrana
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, The Children.

Killed the first one, got close to offing another; then exposed the group to the horrors in his mind... no shame to "cheat" against such numbers:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=509407&pagenumber=5



On average, Mac couldn't handle himself even with massive amps of different sources in last two decades.

Spider-Man's barrage of punches failed to stop Logan from smiling --- Creed is even tougher than that, here's the scene mentioned by Alex:

https://i.postimg.cc/RFx7cpfZ/RCO014.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/wjPcBjjJ/RCO015.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/rwzNcrMM/RCO016.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/1zq0V18d/RCO017.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/YqdzJ3cd/RCO018.jpg



Wouldn't count on it.

Because MCU already did Scorpion --- you need to re-watch Homecoming.

Sadly, they've decided to go with the Ultimate Universe version (Miles' villain):

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Maximus_Gargan_(Earth-1610)

yeah, that moment.

StiltmanFTW
In Cates' Venom run, Mac had another upgrade or two, but - guess what - he managed to lose it again already.

It's pretty comical at this point.

Originally posted by Robtard
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Forgot about that end scene. But they could build from that if they wanted and do it proper. Give him powers and a suit, bam.

With good scriptwriters, anything is possible. Could be salvaged.

But mistakes already were made. Such as picking big bad gangsta Maximus instead of private eye Mac, whose connection with JJJ is arguably the best part of the character.

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