Thanos with the Heart vs. The One Above All

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fangirl101
Who would win?

celestialdemon
Stalemate

guy222
another thread prolly get closed

Utrigita
TOAA probably

guy222
check ur pm eternal friend

leonheartmm
TOAA will unmake him and the heart. TOAA made the heart and allof reality.

Utrigita
Originally posted by guy222
check ur pm eternal friend

I have thanks Guy it was awesome I have heard of the scan but never seen it, it was very good big grin

Xplosive
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Stalemate

No, TOAA wins and wins easily. And THOTI is actually TOAA power within MU, so he can just unmake it and take the power from Thanos. And Thanos could never take THOTI, if TOAA wouldn't allow it. Thanos with THOTI cannot do anything to TOAA, TOAA can do anything to him.

Mr Master
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Well God/Toaa wrote the story that way.
(I always maintained it's just pictures and words on a piece of paper to them)

I guess we can finally end the debate which asks,

"can God create a rock he can't lift?"

In this fictional world called Marvel, evidently YES!

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God/Toaa created a story called The End: Marvel where Thanos became them.

God/Toaa could've made a story where they get pwnd.

God/Toaa could've made a story about anything,
because it's just a story they make themselves.

You see?


It's like if You Nvr, (human being)
came up with a make believe Universe in your mind
and decided to draw what you imagined on paper.

Then what you're creating on paper becomes Reality somewhere.

Many characters, many Worlds, many stories.

To you it's just a story with artistic illustrations on paper,
but to the drawings on that paper, it's a World,
a Universe an Omniverse that's real.

You decide one day to draw a "representation" of yourself (Kirby avatar)
to actually imagine yourself interacting with your own designs.

But since you are the one writing what they're gonna say,
you're actually interacting with yourself.

Would it really mean that the Real You (human being)
is not in control of Your own designs
because you drew a story where your "Avatar" had limits?

Of course not,
it's just a fantasy story drawn on paper
and ultimately means absolutely nothing in comparison to You,
the Real Human being who actually created it all for entertainment to begin with.

Toaa/God is a character in Marvel that can literally do anything or be anything,
Win, Lose is doesn't matter,
because God/Toaa is always in control of everything and anything that happens.
Because God/Toaa create everything and anything that happens.

ANYTHING and EVERYTHING!.

Mr Master
The real OAA/God of Marvel was depicted, as was the one from DC,
neither of them were the Presence or THOTI.

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Again, the Morrison avatar is not the Presence,
that Morrison avatar is exactly what Toaa/God from FF#511 represented:

Real world artists/writers.

The Presence is a drawing,
or idea on a piece of paper that was created by this type of Morrison avatar.

The Presence is an entity that's intergrated into the DC divine reality,
he has family, aspects of himself, and even a polar opposite.

Morrison did not identify with his creation as an equal, opposite or inferior existence,
but rather as what they really are,
just a drawing on a piece of paper.

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4964/am1zz4.th.jpg


Read the scans friend, they're self-explanatory.

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Just like Reed and the FF, Silver Surfer, Black Panther and even Galactus,
are just silly drawings on a piece of paper to the real OAA/God (writers/artists avatars)

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6163/fantasticfour51119ze0.th.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1171/fantasticfour51118em9jtto2.th.jpg

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The Presence and THOTI are less than nothing to these true Gods of Marvel and DC.

The Presence and THOTI,
are the complete fictional representations of supreme beings,
withIN their respective realities. (DC and Marvel)

Morrison/Carlin and Kirbiesk/Lee type avatars are the creators of these drawings, ("supreme beings"wink
even though they themselves are being represented by a drawing as well.

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So bottom line:


The Presence = THOTI
(since both represent the Supreme Beings withIN their realities)

Morrison/Carlin/Kirbiesk/lee >>> Presence/HOTI
(since they literally represent the creators of everything that takes place on panel)
(including "supreme beings"wink that also appear on panel relating themselves with other drawings.

Mr Master
No matter what the Presence is based on (real world God or not)
it's still just a drawing on a piece of paper.

So to suggest that a drawing on a piece of paper is above it's real world creators,
is illogical.
(although they're both represented by artwork,
one artistically represents a fictional reality,
the other artistically represents fiction based on truth)

The real God of the bible appearing in a comic is ludicrous and impossible,
but artistic visuals,
of Morrison/Kirbiesk avatars representing the writers/artists of the industry withIN a comic,
is easily accomplished with a pencil and some ink.

Morrison/Carlin/kirbiesk/lee avatars are the true Gods of Marvel and DC,
there's no arguing this friends.

Mr Master
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Thanos was Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent withIN the Omniverse.

Thanos was GOD!

According to a plethora of On Panel evidence.
According to several Official Marvel Handbooks.
According to Marvel.com
According to Marvunapp
According to Jim Starlin's interview at Newsrama & Comicon

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Only a serious representative avatar of writers/artists are above.

(like FF#511 ... like Morrison's animal man)

kevdude
Going by the Marvel fanboys since he beats God/The Presence he should beat TOAA in Marvel as well, what's fair is fair. Anyway this thread and its twin should be closed, asking way to much of Thanos

psycho gundam
Originally posted by kevdude
Going by the Marvel fanboys since he beats God/The Presence he should beat TOAA in Marvel as well, what's fair is fair. Anyway this thread and its twin should be closed, asking way to much of Thanos it was a bait thread after all.

the heart is basically the pencil and eraser of the writer/editor.
so in essence this fight is really:

who would win in a fight, the dc editor or the marvel editor.
that fight would suck ass.

Galan007
Originally posted by guy222
another thread prolly get closed We can only hope. :/

Mr Master
Originally posted by kevdude

Going by the Marvel fanboys since he beats God/The Presence
he should beat TOAA in Marvel as well, what's fair is fair.
Wonder who you're referring to?

I never said THOTI is above the Presence,
I said they're equals.

The real OAA/God was depicted like Morrison and Carlin over at DC were,
as representative avatars of writers/artists.

The Presence on the other hand, has a family, a polar opposite,
and is integral to DC's fictional reality, like the HOTI.

The real OOA/God form FF#511 has no connection to anything on panel,
only that he draws them up on pieces of paper like an artist,
he gets his ideas from his collaborator (obviously the writer)

Air Legend
Originally posted by kevdude
Going by the Marvel fanboys since he beats God/The Presence he should beat TOAA in Marvel as well, what's fair is fair. Anyway this thread and its twin should be closed, asking way to much of Thanos
Prove that Yahweh is equal to TOAA. Yahweh by his own admission says there are greater forces than himself.

fangirl101
Not a bait thread. A thread asking a serious question.

kevdude
Originally posted by Air Legend
Prove that Yahweh is equal to TOAA. Yahweh by his own admission says there are greater forces than himself.

Answer this, how is TOAA equal to God/The Presence when he couldn't fix the flaw?? How is he equal when he left and gave Thanos his power's if you say?? Didn't Thanos even say he was tricked into taking his spot??

guy222
Originally posted by Galan007
We can only hope. :/

agreed

staying away from the god vs god threads

Air Legend
Originally posted by kevdude
Answer this, how is TOAA equal to God/The Presence when he couldn't fix the flaw?? How is he equal when he left and gave Thanos his power's if you say?? Didn't Thanos even say he was tricked into taking his spot??
I'll take that as a concession seeing how you didn't prove anything and decided to ask me questions about a comic book you've never read.

quanchi112
Originally posted by guy222
another thread prolly get closed This thread is baiting. Its so obvious.

guy222
Originally posted by Utrigita
I have thanks Guy it was awesome I have heard of the scan but never seen it, it was very good big grin

Cool

I was adding a few things to the comp

I got ur PM

U get some rest eternal friend

quanchi112
Originally posted by kevdude
Answer this, how is TOAA equal to God/The Presence when he couldn't fix the flaw?? How is he equal when he left and gave Thanos his power's if you say?? Didn't Thanos even say he was tricked into taking his spot?? The Presence couldnt have imagined colors in coie right? Presence also has external forces outside his control. Writers can create problems for supreme beings and the fans preconceived notions for omnipotence and almighty power can be changed with one writer. People really shouldnt get this wrapped up in this stuff.

guy222
Originally posted by quanchi112
This thread is baiting. Its so obvious.

I already read Bada's words

I'm sure he'll or Raoul come in

fangirl101
Now HOW IN THE HELL IS THIS THREAD baiting when there is one just like with the presence? That is the dumbest thing i've heard in a long time.

llagrok
TOAA.

quanchi112
Originally posted by fangirl101
Now HOW IN THE HELL IS THIS THREAD baiting when there is one just like with the presence? That is the dumbest thing i've heard in a long time. Because you created two bait threads because your upset Thanos is the most powerful being on panel with the heart. stick out tongue

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