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It was inside the warehouse!

Or did they took it? hmm

I don't think they knew it was there or even notice it.

Besides, in Communist tradition religion is opium to the people. Why bring a box of opium to Russia?

hehehe...

because it was already done in indy 1 and besides, what good is it if all it does is kill whomever opens it?

It would have saved everyone the embarassment of the rest of the movie.

it was just an over the top nod to Indy 1... an unneeded one

A nice one though. TLC had one.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
because it was already done in indy 1 and besides, what good is it if all it does is kill whomever opens it?

Yeah, I think they did their homework on the Ark; it wouldn't be worth it.

it would have made more sense than stupid aliens skulls

hehehe

Originally posted by queeq
A nice one though. TLC had one.
yeah and that's the problem: Indy 4 was drowning in the "nods" to other movies. I quit counting after 15.

It wasn't too bad though. I dreaded the references most, but it was not really in your face.

how much more in your face could you be with for instance the flesh eating ants that walked out of the set of The Mummy (number 3 I think?) and walked right up the set of Indy IV

I meant references to previous Indy films. The Mummy thing is just ironic, the original copying the copy.

I didn't mind those, but those "ironic" things were annoying the heck out of me. I was there with someone else and I told her I heard the movie was copied from the comic book Tintin and the solar temple. I have read it ages ago so didn't know exactly. But I hadn't told her so she was guessing the entire time which movie or book was copied. If you pay attention to it, you get a lot of things they copied!

Which is not a bad thing per se.... as long as it is done right.

Originally posted by queeq
It would have saved everyone the embarassment of the rest of the movie.

Hey! some people did enjoy the movie like myself it was a good film but would'nt exactly say its the best film made ever sort of thing.

Originally posted by queeq
Which is not a bad thing per se.... as long as it is done right.
it is, if she finds every 3 minutes a reference

Wha'evah.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Hey! some people did enjoy the movie like myself it was a good film but would'nt exactly say its the best film made ever sort of thing.

Yeah, thats how I feel. This isn't the best Indiana Jones movies. It was fun and exciting enough for me. I liked the mystery the film kept all the way to the end.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Yeah, thats how I feel. This isn't the best Indiana Jones movies. It was fun and exciting enough for me. I liked the mystery the film kept all the way to the end.

I agree with you both!!!

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Yeah, thats how I feel. This isn't the best Indiana Jones movies. It was fun and exciting enough for me. I liked the mystery the film kept all the way to the end.

Point is: why isn't this the best Indiana Jones movie ever?

A picture of the ark was in last crusade, and they didn't go after it then.

It was just annoying that for a second there, you thought they might be looking the ark once you recognized the warehouse

Originally posted by queeq
Point is: why isn't this the best Indiana Jones movie ever?

There is no such thing as "best Indiana Jones movie ever" everyone has their opinions/favorites

I like all the adventures that have happen in the films myself.

How.... critical of you.

Originally posted by Kazenji
There is no such thing as "best Indiana Jones movie ever" everyone has their opinions/favorites

I like all the adventures that have happen in the films myself.

Seriously.
Raiders is the ultimate and clearly is superior to KOTCS...! Therefore there is a variation in quality between the movies.
And Raiders wins against all else.

Amen.

raiders number one of course but this IMO was best since...holy grail was next that other one just plain sucked

Not a Temple of doom fan then.

Nope.

Heh.

A philistine or two keeps life interesting.

Im sorry that one(temple of doom) just sucked though...any others Ill watch and do watch several times a year...temple of doom uggghh dont even own the dvd....(unfortunately dont even have raiders on dvd only vhs very snowy gonna buy off ebay though!)

And so you should be.... It only sucked to you.

Temple of doom not only was better paced, had more depth, character, a better script with much memorable/quoteable dialogue a much better plot an Indy wasn't portrayed as an aged cretin.
The KOTCS (or TOAS :P ) vs TOD thread poll reflects the truth.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=486215&pagenumber=7#post11256429

If it's truth you want, philosophy class is just down the hall.

Because in Soviet Russia, Ark go after you.

I don't get it...

It just outright surrealism and vague spoofing of that turn of phrase that seems to crop up in glasnost era old movies.
Wasnt there line like that in Red Heat...?

Ah, haven;t seen that in a while...

Its for the best, really.

I remember enjoying it a little... the music was very good.

Cant beat an eighties soundtrack.

James Horner is his soundscape days... Nowadays it's always a bit the same.

People in suits, fearful that their product has to sell to whatever biggest demographic are mostly afraid to take chances these days with anything ungeneric. Cool things do get through for example...

The soundtrack to LOST is very innovative.

Its played on plane wreckage for it's very unusual timbres.

Giacchino did a very good job there. I am wondering what we're getting from him on the Star Trek movie.

Pure liquid gold brilliance, I bet.

It better.

Perhaps it'll be played on the wreckage of a prototype Bird of Prey.

Who knows.

Good song, that.

?

By Jimi Hendrix and the Band of Gypsies.

Awesome groove, it has.

Ah...

I once answered the question of "How long can you draw out a jam on those two riffs in a bar, as a three piece before the suicides start?"

12 mins, it would seem.

A record I suppose.

Not one Id care to attempt again...
Its not easy to play rhythm/lead against two types of riff for that time without repeating yourself, boring the audience.

In retrospect it shoulkd maybe have been like 9 mins (which still would be long by that kinda jam's standards, live.

Quite. But in a concert I think there's a different perception of time than on an album.

Depends on a lot of things. What kinda night you're having, the amount you've had to drink....Many factors.

Don't complicate things.

Always a good idea.

Thats why I left out theories of time and its relationship with gravity.

You have theories of time and its relationship with gravity????? Don't lie now.

No Hawking does.

it's only a person who dares to touch the actual ark that's all "dead." and probably most/all the people who knew about the Ark project were all like.. oooohhhh pretty.........DEATH! so after all this dying maybe the nazi's were like, herm, let's think about another, better religious object we can go after.

so when the Ark showed up in IV, nobody died because nobody actually touched it. but yeah, it was a callback.

all the callbacks put together were still not as lame as the fourth movie... and that is sad.

There were lots of Nazis at that end bit that hadn't touched it that got fried. Besides. Indy and John Rhy Davies' character didnt die.

Shame it didn't make Indy infertile, really, judging by Indy IV.

Yeah its possible though, what you say, about the possiblity that the Nazis had all heard about it, but that begs the question of "Why hadnt the whole world heard about it if it was common Nazi-knowledge..?

That kinda thing f***s up the established "possibly coulda happenedness" vibe of Raiders.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Shame it didn't make Indy infertile, really, judging by Indy IV.

No mercy for Mutt lolz

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
There were lots of Nazis at that end bit that hadn't touched it that got fried. Besides. Indy and John Rhy Davies' character didnt die.



I just have to talk about this point - Indy and Marion were looking away, and John Rhy Davies wasn't in the scene

Sallah touched it though.

My point exactly. Thank you.

And don't confuse it with looking in as well, I think only Belloq, Dietrich and Toht looked inside. In the end it's all about the heart. Indy and Marion showed respect by closing their eyes and they survived. Nothing more, great scene, great film.

Showing fear/respect might be the thing there, yes.....

Or perhaps it was God's way of showing the Germans what would happen if anybody made a shit Indy IV.

Just he couldnt be bothered to follow through.

Was Indy IV relased on a Sunday...?
Must've snuck by unpunished on his day of rest/golf. lolz

Didnt indy say dont look at it

Yes. He did. Another clue about when Indy IV would come out all those years later...?

"Sadako, keep your eyes shut. No matter what happens. Keep your eyes shut, Sadako!"

*Listens and keeps eyes shut trying to shut out the screams in the cinema of Indy fans as their aspirations and souls are decimated and horribly burned all around by the ensuing barrel of CGI monkey piss on screen is unleashed*

Now lock that movie in a crate and store it in a HUUUUGE warehouse.

(Followed, presumably by the atomic decimation of said warehouse)

Unless the Russians get there first.

They wouldnt dare screen a movie that bad. It wouldnt just destroy their enemines, they'd most likely lobotomise themselves also.

I dunno... some of those Siberian farmers might actually like it after a few gallons of vodka.

If by "Vodka", you mean "LSD", then I'd agree.















































'Til 'The Fear' sets in.

Obviously, you have no idea how much vodka these guys drink.

Yes I do....

Almost as much as Slash and Duff did back in the eighties.

And then four times that.

As much as them and Oliver Reed combined...?

Hmmm... that'd be kinda inhuman.

They would be demigods of drinking.

They'd need some kind of communal Robo-Liver.

I don't believe that is possible. I don't even believe Oliver Reed was possible.

My theory is that he died in 1982.

He just didnt realise for all those years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui1LfB9MwgI

Drunsk as a skunk. Hilarious.

He should thank Ridley Scott for a last minute save of his career. But the alcholo restriction Scott gave him prolly killed him.

He sold him queer giraffes.

That helped.

A great last role.

Indeed. I loved what they did with his death, reusing a bit of deleted footage of the (non-scripted) repetition of that line 'shadows and dust'. As if he knew a bit more solemn version would have some prupose. Or perhaps he was secretly drunk again.

A combination of the last two factors, I'd guess.

According to Scott he didn't drink during the shoot. I believe him.

His word is good enough for me.

I can sure see him kick Reed's butt when he caught him drinking.

He hasnt got a reputation for suffering fools gladly.

Tough man, that Scott.

Scott killed two disobediant extras on the Blade Runner set.*













































































* Not true.

Hehehe... I know. I'd know though.

Well, I've heard of people who know Jan DeBont (DOP on Black Rain (director of Speed and Twister)) - Dutch guy - that he though Scott was a complete *******. But then I think: they guy just knows things better than most DOP's... maybe that's a problem, but it also makes his film stand out.
Me? Great Ridley fan. If you can make movies like that, you're entitled to be an ******* (to some).

To some, yeah, but you'd still have to be called "douche" when being a douche by non-sycophants.

(Or "Shiiickophantsh" as Connery would say it. )

It takes genius to be genius, but a genius douche is still half douche.

But he makes it work.

In the eyes of some.

He is a genius limited to artistic personality cliches.

Now turning in a work of genius, but still having some degree of social skills too....?

That'd be epic.

He has though. Most actors enjoy working with him.

Well then. Perhaps he isnt as bad as they say.

Or is it that they like being in big films: Something that Scott happens to be very good at.

Have you seen 'White Squall'?

Yup, seen and own.

Another good movie, back in its day.

Very. And a rather small movie for Scott.

Definitely.

Thats one of the things I remember impressing me more.

If that was Michael Bay, he'd have had to work in more explosions and stuff. Scott is genius because he knows how to do grandiose, yet knows how to restrain himself for a feeling of reality within the movie's sake.

Absolutely. Even though I think American Gangster and Body of Lies are pretty good films, I do kinda the miss the extreely pretty look he can produce. Very restraint movies, look wise.

For real. Had I not known beforehand, I'd never have known that American Gangster was his.

True. SHows he's getting a bit more versatile, but then: who's making the very pretty movies now?

The Coen brothers?

YEah, but they shoot on schedule. So they're willing to compromise on look when push comes to shove. And even then, even though they are great and very stylish films, the pristine beauty Scott produces is quite unsurpassed.

I think that Scott also had more extravagent visual subject matter in Alien, Gladiator and yes even White Squall, and American Gangster looked drearier than No Country for old men.

I agree. But that was his personal choice. I'm sure he could have made AG look extremely 70s slick.

Then why didnt he...dammit...? lolz

Heh. Probably some pussy assed descision from the studio about not wanting to visually glamourise the lifestyle.

Nope. He's so big studios don't tell him what to do anymore. It was his decision alone, one I support from a story POV though... but I loved the pretty pictures. It just about redeems even GI Jane.

Then his pussiness is from within.....



*Bows Zennly*

Hehehe... you better hope he doesn't hear ya.

Becauuuuuuuuuuuseeeee..... He is not as forgiving as Palpatine is...?

He'll extinguish his cigar on your ...err... sensitive areas.

Most ladies charge extra for that.

Ah, you're that kinda guy.

No, but I have seen/heard of many crazy things over the years.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuree....

or should I shay: Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhuuuuuuraahh.

LOL No Im more hardcore than that.

Hardcore eh? You talk the talk, but do you walk the walk?

Pussies walks that walk. Im of course, more hardcore than that.

More even, you say, hmmmm?

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Hard that core is.

Show off.

Im as hardcore as the UK MPs are untrustable at filling out their expenses. Nuff said. lolz

Untrustable.... ooooooookay....

Oh yeah for real.... They are being exposed left, right and center over here right now.

Dirty, filthy, corrupt theiving bastards on all sides with their hands all in the money draw. And for the 1st time in ever the people have the concrete evidence and heads are rolling (not in the mortal, life ending sense).

So if the hardcoreness is directly proportionately equal to their near infinite corruptness, then the implication is that the hardcore mass is equal to that of a Red Dwarf or maybe at least Jupiter.

That actually makes sense.

Oh yeah and todays election results are reflective of that. Really apathetic turnout.

Still, like I and millions of others (except Gordon Brown and Harriet Harman it seems) thought they would, Labour still got seven shades of shit kicked out of them.

Rightly so.

The party is in ruins. Brown cannot be in charge when the General Elections are held, if Labour want to stand even the slightest chance.
And a slight chance it would be. I guarantee that if voting is unmolested, Cameron is the next Prime Minister.

Unless he resigns, then you don't need elections. And then Brown came and went without ANY elections... quite a unique effort. hehehe

Hehee yeah exactly.

He should be prosecuted for all that he has allowed under him as leader. From 'Peers for Honours' to the expenses fiasco, which he as PM was aware of the whole time like the rest of them.

Of course he was. In wonder when his faulty expenses will surface.

Precisely.

Found any yet?

I wait like an expectant sewerage worker, waiting for the brown turtleshead to bob up and let us know why its unwise to swim with it.

Hehehe, good analogy.

ty ty

*waits for the bobbing*