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Adam Warlock (soul gem)


vs.


Dr. Fate

If Dr. Fate can somehow prevent his soul from being taken like candy from a baby by Adam, then i'd give him the majority here...or probably just a very very good match-up.

oh come on like candy? he cant just take peoples souls as he pleases if he did he'd win every single fight like that, strange could defend himself against one gem at a time why cant fate?

Dude, that's because he is a pacifist second only to silver space jesus.

But if you wanna see how mean he could be, just take a look at infinity abyss and what happened to Thanos's clone, Warrior.

not only that, but if you get sucked inside the soul gem, Adam is basically the God in that realm

http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/vsthanosclones5.jpg
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not only that, fate's personality and his knowledge might be ingrained

whoa, it literally said it was over in an instant. i guess Fate stands no chance.

i already told you what would happen if he tried that on fate he'd conter like strange did

fate is certainly capable of countering or somehow taking him out first. depends on which version of fate you're talking about.

Originally posted by Mider
i already told you what would happen if he tried that on fate he'd conter like strange did

that would only be possible for Fate if he has prep and the eye of agamotto.

First of all, Strange countering those gems was the biggest plot device ever. If Warlock wanted to destroy Strange, why would he employ each gem individually. There are innumerable ways that he could have gotten rid of Strange, but he didn't because it was in Strange's title.

Besides, Warlock never used the Soul Gem on Strange.

doesnt matter he still had total power over all others wouldnt they have worked they worked on a freaking god of time why not strange magic just meses things up i mean with his magic he hit someone from the site of the cosmic awerness

That's why I said it was a plot device. There really isn't a good reason that Strange was able to defeat Warlock. Warlock should be able to take Strange in general, and he should be able to take Fate.

plot devices are not PIS

No mider they aren't. But his application of them in that instance, when Warlock is easily highly intelligent, is.

warlock wins.

nah he dont

Why not? He's stonger, faster, and is able to manipulate both magic and cosmic energy.

so what dr fate once mind controlled a galaxy

Originally posted by Mider
so what dr fate once mind controlled a galaxy

not instantaneously im sure. but as we've seen warlock can take souls instantly.

And mind control doesn't work on Warlock.

give me a break strange negated the stupid gem so could fate

Fate could just as easily trap him inside the amulet.

Read the issue. He didn't negate jack because Warlock didn't use the Soul Gem on Strange.

Originally posted by Juntai
Fate could just as easily trap him inside the amulet.

What amulet? and is that specific amulet resisting the soul gem. Does it have any instances where it could resist something similar to a soul gem?

You know, just because Dr. Fate and Dr. Strange are rivals here, doesn't mean they are exactly the same. Dr. Strange had prep and specific items that can resist the effect. Dr. Fate doesn't have the priviledge of having those.

And also, Adam Warlock has mystical capabilities as well. He broke off Mephisto's entrapment spell by himself.

Fate's spells are at high tier plot device level. There's a reason they killed him off you know. Even without prep, Nabu can instantly recall all his spells.

He can do that, the question however 1) is it gonna be able to resist a soul siphon. If we are going with plot device, the soul gem can be categorized in that as well 2) Can he use the spell and recall it faster than in "an instant", cause that's how fast the soul gem can affect him. Dr. Even Dr. Strange never had the encounter against Warlock going all out.

are you sure strange didnt defend himself against a few of the gems on the IG if he can defend against one he can defend against the others

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Can he use the spell and recall it faster than in "an instant", cause that's how fast the soul gem can affect him. Dr. Even Dr. Strange never had the encounter against Warlock going all out.

Exactly. I doubt Fate will be is able to cast spells faster than Adam can think.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Exactly. I doubt Fate will be is able to cast spells faster than Adam can think.
The Soul Gem has been known to take souls on its own as well, being sentient and all.

Originally posted by Mider
are you sure strange didnt defend himself against a few of the gems on the IG if he can defend against one he can defend against the others

i didn't say that. In fact i have the scans right here.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2211/drstrangeadamwresist16ph.th.jpg
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http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9659/drstrangeadamwresist47qs.th.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7966/drstrangeadamwresist50gq.th.jpg
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Look to those scans and you will see Adam not using the soul gem at him. In fact, strange used it to reveal to him his folly because it's basically almost one with him.

I've heard something about another time he resisted the gems, probably long pig knows, i'm not so sure. But i'm pretty certain Warlock never used it on him being dead serious and not witholding himself unlike the default characters state in KMC versus threads.

But as said, both can pull crappy insta-wins. Fate has trapped beings of immense power inside of his amulet before. I believe he did it to Mordru, for instance.

Well, i didn't really rule out that possibity just like the fact that i didn't rule out Fate being able to do something against the soul gem(my first post). I'm just saying Warlock is not helpless against magic even enchantments.

http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/resurrection1.jpg
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The second and third scans don't work.

k, ...fixed it.

Sweet.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Well, i didn't really rule out that possibity just like the fact that i didn't rule out Fate being able to do something against the soul gem(my first post). I'm just saying Warlock is not helpless against magic even enchantments.

http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/resurrection1.jpg
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/resurrection2.jpg
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/resurrection4.jpg


you're good.

^ Yeah, he is. It still doesn't prove whether or not he could get out of the artifact amulet.

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