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no prep

Street-level war!!


Team A:

Batman
Wolverine
Captain America
The Punisher
Carnage

Team B:

Spiderman
Nightwing
Daredevil
Black Panther
Hobgoblin w/ glider, bombs ect.

Nice fight Braz, but I'm gonna have go with team b for this fight.

Id have to say team A

How is Carnage street level?

Team A wins, Carnage shouldn't be there. He makes this fight not fair.

Originally posted by Black Adam
How is Carnage street level?

That's what I was thinking
Team B would have a hard enough time just fighting him.

what is he, 15 ton strength? and can just make sharp objects out of almost nething..thats IMO, just about the peak of street level, and i think if spiderman put his head to it cuz he is very smart, and used his reflexes, speed n agility...he might be able to take him by himself, maybe along with help from one other person..thats y i made this fight

Carnage is way stronger than that, and anyway team A wins Carnage has......................50 ton strength

A by far, becaise of Carnage. But they may do pretty well without him, there are some damn good people on that team. It's no prep, so Batman isn't as Godlike as he usually would be. Still puts up some good fight though. Cap and Punisher take most action aside from Carnage.

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Carnage is way stronger than that, and anyway team A wins Carnage has......................50 ton strength


ok, replace Carngae with Venom, then what?

Team A would still rule. The first time I voted for Team B, I didn't see that you had Carnage on the first team, my bad.

Originally posted by braz
ok, replace Carngae with Venom, then what?

im not sure

but with recent upgrades, has venom become stronger than carnage?

i dont think so

Neither Carnage or Spiderman belongs here, but Carnage is really pushing it... I'd have to go with Team A.

Even if Venom replaced Carnage Team A would still win without too many problems.

couldnt uh spiderman take carnage?

Originally posted by vpokdekjyafmidp
couldnt uh spiderman take carnage?

not by himself.

see IMO, this is the way i see it going down

Batman vs Nightwing- bats wins
Captain America vs Daredevil- DD wins
Wolverine vs Black Panther- Black Panther

ok, so team A has batman, carnage and the punisher left
and team B has spiderman, hobgoblin, black panther & daredevil

but then, Batman pwns DD and Hobgoblin bombs punisher to death
so now...Batman, Carnage vs Spiderman Hobgoblin, & Black Panther

BP kills batman, but then Carnage stomps BP...

so its Carnage vs Hobgoblin, Spiderman

yea, i think team B has a good shot if it all goes down that way...carnage is tough though, i just looked him up on wikipedia, and yea, he has 50 ton strength, and it could go down this way via spiderman and hobgoblin are mobilely superior with webshooters, glider and could keep their distance from carnage

Originally posted by braz
see IMO, this is the way i see it going down

Batman vs Nightwing- bats wins
Captain America vs Daredevil- DD wins
Wolverine vs Black Panther- Black Panther

ok, so team A has batman, carnage and the punisher left
and team B has spiderman, hobgoblin, black panther & daredevil

but then, Batman pwns DD and Hobgoblin bombs punisher to death
so now...Batman, Carnage vs Spiderman Hobgoblin, & Black Panther

BP kills batman, but then Carnage stomps BP...

so its Carnage vs Hobgoblin, Spiderman

yea, i think team B has a good shot if it all goes down that way...carnage is tough though, i just looked him up on wikipedia, and yea, he has 50 ton strength, and it could go down this way via spiderman and hobgoblin are mobilely superior with webshooters, glider and could keep their distance from carnage

Why does Black Panther beat Wolverine?

he has a vibranium suit

First of all you were doing great, right up until you said that Daredevil would beat the Cap, I think Wolverine would beat the Panther because his healing factor can take anything the Panther dishes out Carnage will eat the Spider, (which is something I hate to admit)... and good old Frank will be blown to bits by those pumpkin bombs.

Vibranium has been cut by Adamantium before

Originally posted by braz
ok, replace Carngae with Venom, then what?

Dude, Carnage and Venom could take team B by themselvs.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
First of all you were doing great, right up until you said that Daredevil would beat the Cap, I think Wolverine would beat the Panther because his healing factor can take anything the Panther dishes out Carnage will eat the Spider, (which is something I hate to admit)... and good old Frank will be blown to bits by those pumpkin bombs.

IMO DD WOULD beat the cap, cuz of his superior reflexes and senses...DD knows what his opponent is about to do before they even know what theyre gunna do..DD will always be one step ahead of cap, and because of this, IMO i think he takes it...and unlike batman, cap doesnt have any gadgets or any of the sort to counter DD's senses..bats does...and, i was told before that vibranium is able to withstand ANYTHING, even adamantium strikes, and that his energy blade can cut through virtually nething(said it in his profile) so i would thiink BP slices him in half making him die of blood loss, or decapitates him ect. and IMO spiderman could keep his distance from carnage long enough for him to come up with some prep w/ hobgoblin to beat him....maybe

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Vibranium has been cut by Adamantium before

really? see i was told b4 by som1 that vibranium could cut adamantium, or stop it (vice versa)....in that case, then yea wolverine would beat him, and as a result, Team A would win also

Originally posted by braz
IMO DD WOULD beat the cap, cuz of his superior reflexes and senses...DD knows what his opponent is about to do before they even know what theyre gunna do..DD will always be one step ahead of cap, and because of this, IMO i think he takes it...and unlike batman, cap doesnt have any gadgets or any of the sort to counter DD's senses..bats does...and, i was told before that vibranium is able to withstand ANYTHING, even adamantium strikes, and that his energy blade can cut through virtually nething(said it in his profile) so i would thiink BP slices him in half making him die of blood loss, or decapitates him ect. and IMO spiderman could keep his distance from carnage long enough for him to come up with some prep w/ hobgoblin to beat him....maybe

I don't think you know too much about Cap. All of his atributes, speed, agility, strength, reflexes are at the eiptome of human perfection. That is on amount of training by a normal human can match Cap since he is perfection. DD may have superior senses, but not superior reflexes. So wat good is knowing what your opponent is going to do if your opponent is stronger, faster, more agile, etc. Its like if someone shot a gun pointing to your face, just because you know a bullet is coming to your face doesn't mean you'll be able to move out of the way

Originally posted by braz
really? see i was told b4 by som1 that vibranium could cut adamantium, or stop it (vice versa)....in that case, then yea wolverine would beat him, and as a result, Team A would win also

There are two types of Vibranium, Wakandan Vibranium and Antarctic Vibranium (Savage Land Vibranium). Wakandan absorbs mechanical energy while Antarctic Vibranium emits a vibration that weakens other metals at the molecular level.

Originally posted by braz
really? see i was told b4 by som1 that vibranium could cut adamantium, or stop it (vice versa)....in that case, then yea wolverine would beat him, and as a result, Team A would win also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibranium

Anti-metal vibranium doesn't cut so much as liquefies adamantium

Team A wins without Carnage

Originally posted by TheKahn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibranium

Anti-metal vibranium doesn't cut so much as liquefies adamantium

I'm not sure if the vibrations emited by the anti-metal are powerful enough to to liquify adamantium. When Hank Pym was beating on Ultron Unlimited he managed to shatter the adamantium after awhile and liquify other metals in the area but I dont think that he manged to liquify Ultron (could be wrong though).

How would Ant-metal effect Wolverine's adamantium though? Beta Adamantium is different then Primary Adamantium in that is an amalgamation between bone and Primary Adamantium so it is in part organic.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm not sure if the vibrations emited by the anti-metal are powerful enough to to liquify adamantium. When Hank Pym was beating on Ultron Unlimited he managed to shatter the adamantium after awhile and liquify other metals in the area but I dont think that he manged to liquify Ultron (could be wrong though).

I'm not completely sure if Marvel has it just shattering or liquefying Adamantium either. I was basing what I said off of this article. But it could be wrong
http://www.marveldirectory.com/misc/vibranium.htm


Originally posted by srankmissingnin

How would Ant-metal effect Wolverine's adamantium though? Beta Adamantium is different then Primary Adamantium in that is an amalgamation between bone and Primary Adamantium so it is in part organic.

Good question. I think if anything the bone component would only serve to weaken it. It's much easier to shatter or fracture bones with vibrations than it is metal. But anyone's guess is as good as mine.

team a no prob

Originally posted by TheKahn
I'm not completely sure if Marvel has it just shattering or liquefying Adamantium either. I was basing what I said off of this article. But it could be wrong
http://www.marveldirectory.com/misc/vibranium.htm
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Maybe it can be liquefied with prolonged exposure to the vibrations but is weakened enough for someone with superhuman strength to break it once exposure occurs?

Originally posted by TheKahn
Good question. I think if anything the bone component would only serve to weaken it. It's much easier to shatter or fracture bones with vibrations than it is metal. But anyone's guess is as good as mine.

Yeah that should be the case but for some reason the vibration that anti-metal gives off seems to only effect metals

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
There are two types of Vibranium, Wakandan Vibranium and Antarctic Vibranium (Savage Land Vibranium). Wakandan absorbs mechanical energy while Antarctic Vibranium emits a vibration that weakens other metals at the molecular level.

so vibranium would stop beta adamantium claws, right? which is part organic?

Originally posted by marvelprince
I don't think you know too much about Cap. All of his atributes, speed, agility, strength, reflexes are at the eiptome of human perfection. That is on amount of training by a normal human can match Cap since he is perfection. DD may have superior senses, but not superior reflexes. So wat good is knowing what your opponent is going to do if your opponent is stronger, faster, more agile, etc. Its like if someone shot a gun pointing to your face, just because you know a bullet is coming to your face doesn't mean you'll be able to move out of the way

yea he does, superior senses and reflexes too, correct? cuz thats how he can dodge bullets, projectiles ect. hes almost like spiderman, and hes been know to be able to keep up with him h2h

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