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Based off fts, is Surfer more durable than these chains?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/738/990/ca3.jpg

Yes.

Present some pure durability feats for Surfer and then we'll talk.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Present some pure durability feats for Surfer and then we'll talk.


It's a shame Carv is so obsessed with the power levels of the feat.


Might keep him from enjoying one of the best stories ever. (As it would be if he never performs the feat, as the feat isn't the point..)

He can cross timelines and you know the ghost buster rule.
Silver Surfer>Stay Puff Marshmellow Man

Weight of a planet <<<<<<<<weight of a star<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<weight of millions of stars.

I'm pretty sure Surfer would be damaged from a punch that had the force of the weight of a planet.

Originally posted by h1a8
Weight of a planet <<<<<<<<weight of a star<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<weight of millions of stars.

I'm pretty sure Surfer would be damaged from a punch that had the force of the weight of a planet.

Gravitational pull of black hole greater that all. Same for energy of Big Bang.

survived a biggiebang

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Gravitational pull of black hole greater that all. Same for energy of Big Bang.
Wrong the gravitational pull of a black hole ranges from 0 to astronomically more depending on how close you are to the singularity. For example, if you are in the event horizon (where Surfer was) then it can range from thousands of tons to astronomically more, depending on on his close you are to the singularity. Surfer never touched the singularity.

What what does a big bang have anything to do with anything? You still haven't explained what you are talking about.

Originally posted by h1a8
Wrong the gravitational pull of a black hole ranges from 0 to astronomically more depending on how close you are to the singularity. For example, if you are in the event horizon (where Surfer was) then it can range from thousands of tons to astronomically more, depending on on his close you are to the singularity. Surfer never touched the singularity.

What what does a big bang have anything to do with anything? You still haven't explained what you are talking about.

This black hole is specifically described:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/71420/1340439-red_shift_vs_silver_surfer.jpg

Surfer twice indures the Big Bang during Slott's run.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
This black hole is specifically described:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/71420/1340439-red_shift_vs_silver_surfer.jpg

Surfer twice indures the Big Bang during Slott's run.

I already knew of the black hole feat as to why I mentioned the event horizon. Do your research. Research possible radius sizes for different black holes. Research
Force = G *m1*M/r^2

Use formula to calculate the force when r = 1/2 of the radius of the event horizon. Assume Surfer is about 100kg.

You will see that the force isn't even planetary.

Post the scans about the big bang.
You know that nothing can exist outside the big bang as there is no space outside of it.
Time and space were created in the big bang. And it wasn't a bang but the expansion of time and space.

I hope the Cho Big Bang feat isn't the one I'm thinking of.....

Originally posted by h1a8
I already knew of the black hole feat as to why I mentioned the event horizon. Do your research. Research possible radius sizes for different black holes. Research
Force = G *m1*M/r^2

Use formula to calculate the force when r = 1/2 of the radius of the event horizon. Assume Surfer is about 100kg.

You will see that the force isn't even planetary.

Post the scans about the big bang.
You know that nothing can exist outside the big bang as there is no space outside of it.
Time and space were created in the big bang. And it wasn't a bang but the expansion of time and space.

Flat out called a Big Bang.

https://m.imgur.com/a/GZG7pBf

Originally posted by h1a8
I already knew of the black hole feat as to why I mentioned the event horizon. Do your research. Research possible radius sizes for different black holes. Research
Force = G *m1*M/r^2

Use formula to calculate the force when r = 1/2 of the radius of the event horizon. Assume Surfer is about 100kg.

You will see that the force isn't even planetary.

Post the scans about the big bang.
You know that nothing can exist outside the big bang as there is no space outside of it.
Time and space were created in the big bang. And it wasn't a bang but the expansion of time and space.

Oh yeah, Surfer cleaved to Galactus' ship then.

Yes and no.

Yes, because we usually place high heralds above typical space cheese feats. Random ass chains, which are meant to be this and that are something entirely different than... let's say Superman folding Wolverines Adamantium claws into pretzels.

No, because Silver Surfer got punched to near death by Thanos and got his head dented in by a dying Thor smacking him with Mjolnir.
There you would think that Thanos and Thor wouldn't be able to dish out physical damage on a galactic level.

And I also think it's important to distinguish between Silver Surfers durability against energy attacks and physical attacks. He handles energy much better than he does getting punched in the face.

So the answer is ultimatelly:
Silver Surfer laughs at Supermans heat vision, but does get hurt by Supermans physical attacks. Probably even hurt badly. I think even Thanos said that he fears Gladiator more than Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
This black hole is specifically described:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/71420/1340439-red_shift_vs_silver_surfer.jpg

Surfer twice indures the Big Bang during Slott's run.
If you are at free fall under uniform gravity you will not experience any forces no matter how "strong" the gravity is. You just feel weightless. Heck, I could withstand falling through the event horizon of a supermassive black hole just fine (assuming I had a space suit to protect me from the vacuum of space). What you do experience, though, are the effects of non-uniform gravity i.e. the tidal-forces due to differences in gravity across your body. These can be arbitrarily small or large depending on how massive the black hole is and how close to the singularity you are. Once the curvature of spacetime becomes large enough you'd eventually experience what is known as spaghettification.

As a more technical note, once you are within the event horizon, the spatio-temporal nature of the singularity changes. The singularity is no longer in any particular spatial direction of you; it is in your future. All the world lines within your future light cone end up in the singularity no matter which (spatial) direction you go to; in a sense, the singularity is all around you and approaches you as your time goes on (even though you can't see it, naturally, since the journey to singularity is a one-way street even for light). The only way to escape from within the black hole event horizon is thus to time-travel back in time to a point where you not yet had crossed the event horizon, or to warp the spacetime itself.

Why can't this just be an awesome feat?

There are several metals in the DC universe that are more durable than Silver Surfer, including:
- promethium (DC's version of adamantium, basically)
- amazonium (the stuff Diana's bracers are made of)
- Nth metal.

Kerenthium steel, i.e. the metal the chains were made of, is even stronger since it is the strongest metal in the (DC) universe. Thus:
kerenthium steel > promethium etc. > Surfer.

Surfer is nowhere near as durable as kerenthium steel.

Surfer specifically used his power to shield himself from the black hole's effects.

It's an energy manipulation feat.

A black hole can even be used to amplify the PC:
https://ibb.co/SfwK245

Also, the science above, but it's not like the brainlets can understand it.

Originally posted by h1a8
I already knew of the black hole feat as to why I mentioned the event horizon. Do your research. Research possible radius sizes for different black holes. Research
Force = G *m1*M/r^2

Use formula to calculate the force when r = 1/2 of the radius of the event horizon. Assume Surfer is about 100kg.

You will see that the force isn't even planetary.

Post the scans about the big bang.
You know that nothing can exist outside the big bang as there is no space outside of it.
Time and space were created in the big bang. And it wasn't a bang but the expansion of time and space.

The dialogue states that they fight in the black heart of the dying star.

https://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmos/B/ Black+Hole#:~:text=Well%20inside%20the%20event%20h
orizon,and%20gravity%20is%20infinitely%20strong.

"Well inside the event horizon lies the heart of the black hole – the singularity."

Are they not clearly fighting in the singularity?

Does your use of real world science to try and discredit Surfer apply to the inverted black hole used to forge the chains?

Adam Warlock survived a Big Bang; so who cares?