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Wally was the only one to outrun Black Flash, can the Runner do the same?

Race 1: Runner w/out Space Gem

Race 2: Runner "with" Space Gem

Just to refresh your memory...

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Originally posted by Nihilist
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Agreed

You can't outrun Death.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You can't outrun Death.

wally did

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You can't outrun Death.

You can if you have the space gem

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You can't outrun Death. the runner's lust for freedom has kept him going for x billions of years, black flash can't kill him even if he asked him to.

dont mind the banana

They have a gentlemanly discussion about the metaphysical ramifications of Death trying to kill someone who is forbidden from dying.

ur sayinig they have a conversation?

Originally posted by strifex6
ur sayinig they have a conversation?

The Elders are forbidden from entering the realm of Death, they cannot actually die unless someone more powerful than death kills one of them. Runner tends to make people like him. BF's only known powers are superspeed and some sort of death touch.

They're going to sit down and talk since there's nothing else they can do.

Then they argue about who's faster and decide to have a race

BF's role is not to be faster than other speedsters, but rather, to be as fast as them so they may be dealt the proverbial "ace of spades."

stalemate.

well black flash HAS been out ran before.

BF clearly caught up to flash they just conveniently hit the end of time by that point. meh, unless you have evidence that runner can move through time in a similar fashion, it's simply not a feasible option for him anyway.

stalemate.

What happens if Runner tees off on him, and vice-versa?

Is it even possible that they could at least do something enough for a win? BF KO's him, or Runner drops him.

Otherwise, this is pretty much the most canceling fight ever.

If we assume that Black Flash has all of Flash's speed, then he could win by KOing Runner, since I strongly doubt BF can be KOed period.

But, Black Flash has a jurisdiction problem. If we assume he can kill Runner, then DC Death is stronger than Marvel Death. And we can't make that assumption.

There's a basic program that BF follows, and since Runner can't die period, Black Flash could just vanish in a flash since he can't deal the death blow.

IMO if The Runner has the *space gem* in his possession, Black Flash ain't gonna be catching him.

I agree, stalemate.

Who wins?

Stalemate. BF only becomes as fast as he needs to be, in order to catch a certain speedster.

Originally posted by Galan007
Stalemate. BF only becomes as fast as he needs to be, in order to catch a certain speedster.

Is that his only talent? As in, how powerful is he compared to his speed?

the runner's speed has nothing to do with the speed force, his stems from primordial/cosmic energy manipulation/training, plus his life force runs on that rendering him immortal. imo black flash lacks the authority/power to kill him.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Is that his only talent? As in, how powerful is he compared to his speed? The personification of death to speedsters?

Unless the Runner can run to the end of time the Black Racer wins

Originally posted by Galan007
The personification of death to speedsters?

I knew that. Most of these speedsters (besides Jesse) don't have any other abilities besides speed, though. Strength, for instance.

You see where I'm going with this? I've got no problem, really, with the stalemate, given BF's power.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I've got no problem, really, with the stalemate, given BF's power. Then stop arguing. whatdur

Originally posted by Galan007
Then stop arguing. whatdur

Yessir.




I agree with Galan 100%. Stalemate.

Even with Space Gem?

Originally posted by Anti-Monitor
Even with Space Gem? I don't think tracking/following Runner, if he was using the gem to teleport away from a given locale would be out of BF's abstractual 'scope of practice,' so to speak - but that's just me.

BF

who wins?

Black Flash. They are manifested to catch all speed runners. They will always be one step ahead.

Question is, does Black Flash power works on speedster who tap into speed force?

Originally posted by vansonbee
Question is, does Black Flash power works on speedster who tap into speed force?
All I know is, it can't die. If it touches a person connected to the speed force, they die.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
All I know is, it can't die. If it touches a person connected to the speed force, they die. The Runner wouldn't be effected, he is speedster under his own power.

What I should of meant before...

Does BF ability work on speedster who are tap into speed force only or all characters?

Does BF have the same SF tricks Wally has? If so, he could just steal his energy.

Runner has PP don't see how BF is going to steal his KE but BF is suppose to be immortal so meh.