Originally posted by spetznaz
This is a good thread, with great possibility for good debate.
Although, to counter your statement on IF being a better fighter (no doubt about it ...IF is a better martial artist but against MN that doesn't necessarily translate to bettter fighter ...I'll explain) and IF having better power output (again, very correct once you consider IF's ironfist chi-channeling, but again negated by something I shall mention in the course of my post), I would say the following.
First of all, on IF being a better fighter.
It is true that IF is a far better martial artist, but that does not mean he would defeat MN. You have to, in ANY debate, not just look at the STRENGTHS of the character you support .....you ALSO need to look at the strengths of the OTHER character.
What, if I may ask, is one of MN's most LETHAL abilities? One of the most lethal is his ability to not just predict what an opponent will do, but calculate over a million possible counters per second. The moment you move he has already come up with a myriad ways of defeating you!
That is why I said that just because IF is a better martial artist doesn't make him the better fighter when matched against MN. MN is, by far, the better fighter.
The second is on IF having greater power output.
Once again, it is true that IF can mess up things with his chi-factor iron-fist move, but that does not mean he would defeat MN. You have to, in ANY debate, not just look at the WEAKNESSES of the character you DON'T support ....you ALSO need to look at the WEAKNESSES of the OTHER character.
IF has amazing damage dealing potential .....but so does MN. Even though MN may not have the ability to channel chi into a devastating master-blow-lite punch, he can still easily rip off someone's spine with ease, or kick off a head without any problem. IF's strike may be capable of going through anything short of adamantium (an exaggeration, but work with me here), but MN's punch will easily go through several humans put in a line! And that is what is needed .....if your punch can go through pressed steel, and my punch can go through a human skull, guess what happens if we were to punch each other? We would BOTH die.
Anyways, IF has greater damage dealing ability, but MN's damage dealing capability is also quite high (not as high ....but it will still ruin your day .....it is, to use an example, comparing a punch from Superman with a punch from Rogue .....one is FAR greater than the other, but the 'weaker' of the two will still knock your car a mile high).
A punch from IF would wreck MN, but a punch from MN will just as easily decapitate the dude.
Although ....one of the characters has a healing factor (hint: his name starts with 'M' and ends with 'Nighter'), but even that is not necessary .....with the combat-analysing capability giving him a million solutions per second, MN will not have to use his healing factor here.
Anyways, it is a very good thread.
However, if it was a real fight on KMC, and I had to bet money, I would put at least 90 cents out of a Dollar US on Midnighter for the win.
The 10 cents on IF would simply be because I totally adore the current iteration of the character.
I have been educated. Current IF is cool for certain
He is actually my second favourite comic hero.
