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Who wins?

The Russian- http://en.marveldatabase.com/Russian_(Earth-616)

Originally posted by golem370
Who wins?

The Russian- http://en.marveldatabase.com/Russian_(Earth-616)

With Prep, Joker every time.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
With Prep, Joker every time. Well anyone with prep time can stop or slow down the upcoming event*

Russian take this 10/10, Joker doesn't even know its coming* He was hired after all*http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/edoom/BarneyKill.gif

Plus Russian could be fixed and just come back

And the Joker would kill him again. Plus KMC rules state once he goes down the first time Joker wins the match, plus if he has to be taken away and repaired then it's the same as BFR.

Originally posted by golem370
Plus Russian could be fixed and just come back

Russian could even pretend to be Joker new goons, and then kills him in front ot Batman " Har Har Har" http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m252/RiverIsMyGoddess/icons/smiley_llamarider.gif

Then he kills Batman

Where are you getting this stuff about prep for Joker or arena rules?

It's a scenario topic. "The Russian has been hired to assassinate The Joker."

Originally posted by golem370
Then he kills Batman

most likely 25 ton of strength rigt here....
http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/ruinkai/batman.gif VS http://smilies.vidahost.com/games/bl/colossus.gif
Batman Russian

Originally posted by KK the Great
Where are you getting this stuff about prep for Joker or arena rules?

It's a scenario topic. "The Russian has been hired to assassinate The Joker."

The Joker has guns, bombs, gas, poisons, knives, and acid.

And I'm not talking about prep, this is stuff he carries with him.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
The Joker has guns, bombs, gas, poisons, knives, and acid.

And I'm not talking about prep, this is stuff he carries with him. Hired to kill could mean other things, get close enough to kill offguard Joker. Russian does this for livinghttp://smilies.vidahost.com/otn/angry/nono.gif youpi

Originally posted by vansonbee
Hired to kill could mean other things, get close enough to kill offguard Joker. Russian does this for livinghttp://smilies.vidahost.com/otn/angry/nono.gif youpi

So in other words, the only way Russian could win this fight is if The Joker turned his back to him and let him kill him?

It's a stupid match under those rules, the title might as well be "Is The Joker mortal?"

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
So in other words, the only way Russian could win this fight is if The Joker turned his back to him and let him kill him?

It's a stupid match under those rules, the title might as well be "Is The Joker mortal?" Blame the Op, Joker isn't aware its coming* Russian won't give his target any chance's http://smilies.vidahost.com/games/poke/052p.gif

Originally posted by vansonbee
Blame the Op, Joker isn't aware its coming* Russian won't give his target any chance's http://smilies.vidahost.com/games/poke/052p.gif

If anything that makes The Joker more impressive, that the Russian would need such an extreme advantage to come close to beating him.

And he fails.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
If anything that makes The Joker more impressive, that the Russian would need such an extreme advantage to come close to beating him.

Yeah, we get it, you like the Joker.

Originally posted by KK the Great
Yeah, we get it, you like the Joker.

That has nothing to do with it. No one seems to be denying the fact that face to face The Joker would kill The Russian. I find the idea silly of giving one character in the match complete for knowledge of the match. All you basically asking is, can character B die?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
That has nothing to do with it. No one seems to be denying the fact that face to face The Joker would kill The Russian. I find the idea silly of giving one character in the match complete for knowledge of the match. All you basically asking is, can character B die? Yes he can, but not by the Joker standard equipment the one you desribed* Ruissian is flesh and blood, he made of freaking pastic for god sake! Can also Lift up 25 tons. Bane can't even do half that or less http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/laughing004.gifhttp://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/laughing014.gif

Originally posted by vansonbee
Yes he can, but not by the Joker standard equipment the one you desribed* Ruissian is flesh and blood, he made of freaking pastic for god sake! Can also Lift up 25 tons. Bane can't even do half that or less http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/laughing004.gifhttp://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/laughing014.gif

And you think acid or guns or bombs can't deal with plastic?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
And you think acid or guns or bombs can't deal with plastic? Don't put bombs next to guns or acid, by reading some of his bio, he seem mostly robotic. Acid wouldn't do the job quickly enough. After all he need 1 swing in joker facehttp://www.smileyvault.com/albums/CBSS/thumb_smileyvault-cute-big-smiley-static-052.gif

Originally posted by vansonbee
Don't put bombs next to guns or acid, by reading some of his bio, he seem mostly robotic. Acid wouldn't do the job quickly enough. After all he need 1 swing in joker face

And if he takes sulfuric acid in the face, how's he going to see where to hit?

With no preps from Joker, Russian 10/10

Nope. Deathstroke failed to nail Joker with a hit, and Joker was unaware of the hit coming mind you.

Besides, Russian is an idiot. Joker deals with morons in his sleep.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Russian is an idiot. Joker deals with morons in his sleep.

Does the Joker know a big stupid guy is trying to kill him?

If he does, god pity the poor Russian. The Joker does unspeakable thing to him.

He know somebody is out to kill him but know real details.

Originally posted by golem370
He know somebody is out to kill him but know real details.

Then he would be ready for it.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
The Joker has guns, bombs, gas, poisons, knives, and acid.

And I'm not talking about prep, this is stuff he carries with him.

The Punisher and others found out guns and knives have no effect on the Russian. Poisons won't work because he is predominantly cybernetic. Acid may corrode and possibly eat away the Russian's tissue, but it's not going to stop him. Bombs could do some damage, but I doubt the Joker (assuming he can evade the Russian long enough) carries enough to finish it.

The Russian, 9/10

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Acid may corrode and possibly eat away the Russian's tissue, but it's not going to stop him.
Proof?



Yes, yes they could.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Proof?

Well, for the most part, the guy is robotic and designed for power and durability; hence, he's made out of strong metals and plastics. That, and acid takes a long f***ing time to fully corrode something.


Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Yes, yes they could.

Yeah, I already said that. Trouble is, even if we assume he somehow evades the Russian at every turn and lands directs hits with the bombs, the Joker may not have enough on him to beat him.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Well, for the most part, the guy is robotic and designed for power and durability; hence, he's made out of strong metals and plastics. That, and acid takes a long f***ing time to fully corrode something.

He shoots the acid in his face, Russian can't see him.



The Joker uses bombs in unusual ways. Russian might not even recognize it's a bomb until too late.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
He shoots the acid in his face, Russian can't see him.

Dude, if fire couldn't do that to the Russian the second time around, what is acid going to do to him?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
The Joker uses bombs in unusual ways. Russian might not even recognize it's a bomb until too late.

Joker doesn't have prep.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Dude, if fire couldn't do that to the Russian the second time around, what is acid going to do to him?
Scan?


When has he ever needed prep to carry bombs around with him?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Scan?

I've got their first fight, and getting scans for the Russians bullet/knife resistance. Don't know where the hell the rest of the Marvel Knights Punisher files are. It happened on Grand Nixon Island. I'll keep looking though.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
When has he ever needed prep to carry bombs around with him?
I'm not saying he never carries bombs with him. I just don't see how him using disguised bombs in creative ways will come into play if he's got no prep.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
I've got their first fight, and getting scans for the Russians bullet/knife resistance. Don't know where the hell the rest of the Marvel Knights Punisher files are. It happened on Grand Nixon Island. I'll keep looking though.


I'm not saying he never carries bombs with him. I just don't see how him using disguised bombs in creative ways will come into play if he's got no prep.

Well if he's carrying the bombs with him anyways, then he simply throws them at the Russian.

You're assuming Joker can keep distance between them, each bomb will be a direct hit, the bombs will be strong enough to seriously damage the Russian, and that he has enough of them to finish the job. Not happening, even half the time.

The Russian wins a healthy majority, if not every time.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
You're assuming Joker can keep distance between them
Forum rules state they can start up to .5 km away from each other.


Prove this.

Joker dodges The Russian, and electrocutes him with the joy buzzer until he eventually dies

or

Joker shoots him in the head with a dart gun poisoned with Joker Venom

or

Joker bombards the place with Joker Venom



Joker every time, all the time.
Heck, he doesn't even need prep to beat this fool.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Forum rules state they can start up to .5 km away from each other.
The Joker can't throw something half a kilometer away. No direct hit there.

Prove this.

The Joker's bombs could probably keep the Russian at bay for a short amount of time, but the latter would gradually move in closer. If the Joker throws a bomb at the Russian at a close range, he risks injuring or killing himself. The Russian would survive.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
The Russian would survive.
Prove it. Do you have scans of him surviving bombs?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Prove it. Do you have scans of him surviving bombs?
I told you, I'm still looking for my missing Punisher files.

The Russian was killed by a bomb though... a big atomic bomb. Every other conventional weapon failed to put him away.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
I told you, I'm still looking for my missing Punisher files.

The Russian was killed by a bomb though... a big atomic bomb. Every other conventional weapon failed to put him away.

Okay I'll wait for the scans.

Joker 10/10

The Russian is horribly overrated

A goon given cybernetic enhancements nothing more.

Anybody else

Forgot all about this thread.

Still think the Russian wins every time.
Originally posted by godking
Joker 10/10. The Russian is horribly overrated; a goon given cybernetic enhancements nothing more.
You're f***ing kidding me... The Russian is being severely underrated in this thread and being dismissed as just some daft cyborg.

The Joker has to be one of the most overrated characters in versus forum history. He's a homocidal maniac with an decent arsenal, an associates degree in chemistry from Gotham City College, and a clown gimmick... He's Ronald McDonald after losing the burger franchise wars.

Pretty easy to dismiss a character like that. Save that tired noise.

joker doesn't know what's up, he dies.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

The Joker has to be one of the most overrated characters in versus forum history. He's a homocidal maniac with an decent arsenal, an associates degree in chemistry from Gotham City College, and a clown gimmick... He's Ronald McDonald after losing the burger franchise wars. This is wrong on SO many levels...

JOKER

Originally posted by SamZED
This is wrong on SO many levels...

Just making a point.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Forum rules state they can start up to .5 km away from each other.

Didn't you read the OP? It clearly states that the Russian has been hired to assassinate Joker. This is not a straight-up fight, this is a scenario.

Forum rules are used as defaults when the OP doesn't provide any circumstances for the fight. In this case they did so forum rules do not apply.

I believe that if Joker knows that he's coming there's no way the Russian kills him. If he doesnt he dies.
Also Russian has boobs now so he wins.

not sure how joker's going to dig his way out of this one, only the bat holds back from murking that guy.

i mean, like one guy said earlier, the russian could try and get recruited in joker's goon squad, and that imo would be an easy task since he could be joker's personal bodyguard being that he's built like a tank. joker wouldn't hesitate for a second to let him in the fold (in some level), and once he feels secure with him hanging around he just has to get caught slipping once and the russian can close the book on joker's chapter.

could take weeks to years, but the russian could do it.

The Russian tears Joker's head off then, in all fairness, probably does things to the corpse.

Joker of course.