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nothing happens by accident does it?

http://www.rense.com/general83/crash.htm

The illuminati have been out since the 1700s, that group went under a long time ago. There is no worldwide conspiracy wat u see is wat u get. There r no mysteries, this incident is just a reflection of the bad enconmy thanks to the war.

Ideas like this just help to let the people who are actually responsible get away with what they've done....

irresponsible high risk, high reward short term investments have caused this problem...not lizard men from outer space....get used to it

Man if it does turn out to be lizard man I'd just laugh my ass off.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
The illuminati have been out since the 1700s, that group went under a long time ago. There is no worldwide conspiracy wat u see is wat u get. There r no mysteries, this incident is just a reflection of the bad enconmy thanks to the war.

What's funny is that you say that like you know for sure... 100% positive...

How can you know for sure?

How can I know for sure?

How can jaden know for sure?

How can Deano know for sure?

We can't, that's why people have what they THINK is truth...

Get used to it... Not everyone will follow the status quo like you do... People still have opinions, you know...

Originally posted by Bat Dude
What's funny is that you say that like you know for sure... 100% positive...

How can you know for sure?

How can I know for sure?

How can jaden know for sure?

How can Deano know for sure?

We can't, that's why people have what they THINK is truth...

Get used to it... Not everyone will follow the status quo like you do... People still have opinions, you know...

We don't know for sure, which is why the most reliable source you should go by and the only thing you should ever listen to is your own instinct on the situation...never believe another mans opinions.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
What's funny is that you say that like you know for sure... 100% positive...

How can you know for sure?

How can I know for sure?

How can jaden know for sure?

How can Deano know for sure?

We can't, that's why people have what they THINK is truth...

Get used to it... Not everyone will follow the status quo like you do... People still have opinions, you know... How cute, I remember being like this a couple of years ago. You and Galan seem to think we can't know any thing because people have different opinions. One side is always right and it is your job to figure out which one and some times that means just choosing the one that has merit, makes sense and is not an out of this world theory supported by nothing other than ridiculous claims made by ridiculous people.

Originally posted by Magee
How cute, I remember being like this a couple of years ago. You and Galan seem to think we can't know any thing because people have different opinions. One side is always right and it is your job to figure out which one and some times that means just choosing the one that has merit, makes sense and is not an out of this world theory supported by nothing other than ridiculous claims made by ridiculous people.

Sure.

Originally posted by jaden101
Ideas like this just help to let the people who are actually responsible get away with what they've done....

irresponsible high risk, high reward short term investments have caused this problem...not lizard men from outer space....get used to it

Hello, Mr Superduper Economist.

Where do all these investment bankers get their money from to invest in weapons of financial mass destruction such as derivatives, hedgefunds and the like?!?!!

Read and learn.

This money is mainly being created by the Federal Reserve - The Bank of Japan and commercial banks who are creating money out of thin air, creating money by a simple sleight of hand. If we had a normal healthy banking system, one for example based on a gold standard or perhaps one based on recycling money already part of the money supply, we wouldn have these problems.

These trillions of dollars invested in derivatives originated in the carry trade with Japan, the bank of Japan is working in tandem with the Federal Reserve of the USA. The Bank of Japan has been lending money at ZERO percent interest for over 10 years now. Greedy investmentbanks in the USA jumped on this free funny money and used it to invest in derivatives and other forms of "intelligent" GAMBLING.

All the wealth we have right now is just an illusion of wealth created with money that doesnt really exist. This is what has caused this financial mess and there is no way out other than a MASSIVE DESTRUCTION OF WEALTH. In this destruction a massive transfer of assets from the public to the bankers will follow.

So out of all this bullshit, the bankers will emerge YET again as the victors.

Originally posted by Katsu
Hello, Mr Superduper Economist.

Where do all these investment bankers get their money from to invest in weapons of financial mass destruction such as derivatives, hedgefunds and the like?!?!!

Read and learn.

This money is mainly being created by the Federal Reserve - The Bank of Japan and commercial banks who are creating money out of thin air, creating money by a simple sleight of hand. If we had a normal healthy banking system, one for example based on a gold standard or perhaps one based on recycling money already part of the money supply, we wouldn have these problems.

These trillions of dollars invested in derivatives originated in the carry trade with Japan, the bank of Japan is working in tandem with the Federal Reserve of the USA. The Bank of Japan has been lending money at ZERO percent interest for over 10 years now. Greedy investmentbanks in the USA jumped on this free funny money and used it to invest in derivatives and other forms of "intelligent" GAMBLING.

All the wealth we have right now is just an illusion of wealth created with money that doesnt really exist. This is what has caused this financial mess and there is no way out other than a MASSIVE DESTRUCTION OF WEALTH. In this destruction a massive transfer of assets from the public to the bankers will follow.

So out of all this bullshit, the bankers will emerge YET again as the victors.

Actually hedge funds are funded by individual investors...Granted those investors need to have a large amount of money to begin with. In fact some hedge fund managers insist on a minimum investment of a million pounds.

Granted though, the mechanisms used during those investments such as short selling are some of things i have mentioned in previous threads as being reasons for the economic problems we're experiencing now.

My point is that people like me and you have actually bothered to look into the financial mechanisms behind what's causing the problems where as the vast majority of conspiracy theorists do not.

The only difference between us is that you believe it's a conspiracy across the banking sector where as i believe it's the result of a minority of greedy investors looking to get the highest possible bonuses. Besides if the bankers were going to be the ones to benefit from it then why are tens of thousands of them losing their jobs and the chief executives of many of the worlds largest banks being sacked by their boards?

cause its time to retire..lol..part of the deal...hehe..I have no idea..but get out while you can...as a new evil is on its way...muhahaha

Well someones controlling the economic cycle of boom and bust, and profiting out of it big time.

Lend loads of money out, let people feel secure and get loans then let some of the water out of the lake and get them fishing rods out and repossess as much as you can. Then start the cycle again.

Dunno if its the Illuminati (or if they even exist) doing this, they are gaining a lot of power from it.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Well someones controlling the economic cycle of boom and bust, and profiting out of it big time.

Lend loads of money out, let people feel secure and get loans then let some of the water out of the lake and get them fishing rods out and repossess as much as you can. Then start the cycle again.

Dunno if its the Illuminati (or if they even exist) doing this, they are gaining a lot of power from it.

Obviously there are going to be people exploiting it. That happens with any bad situation. But contrary to what conspiracy nuts believe, the vast majority of people in the financial industry are both honest and suffering as a result of the minority. For example, the city of London is well on its way to having 5000 job loses because of the current problems. The bosses of most major banking institutions have been sacked already.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Well someones controlling the economic cycle of boom and bust, and profiting out of it big time.

Lend loads of money out, let people feel secure and get loans then let some of the water out of the lake and get them fishing rods out and repossess as much as you can. Then start the cycle again.

Dunno if its the Illuminati (or if they even exist) doing this, they are gaining a lot of power from it.

oh its definetely them.

Originally posted by Katsu
Hello, Mr Superduper Economist.

Where do all these investment bankers get their money from to invest in weapons of financial mass destruction such as derivatives, hedgefunds and the like?!?!!

Read and learn.

This money is mainly being created by the Federal Reserve - The Bank of Japan and commercial banks who are creating money out of thin air, creating money by a simple sleight of hand. If we had a normal healthy banking system, one for example based on a gold standard or perhaps one based on recycling money already part of the money supply, we wouldn have these problems.

These trillions of dollars invested in derivatives originated in the carry trade with Japan, the bank of Japan is working in tandem with the Federal Reserve of the USA. The Bank of Japan has been lending money at ZERO percent interest for over 10 years now. Greedy investmentbanks in the USA jumped on this free funny money and used it to invest in derivatives and other forms of "intelligent" GAMBLING.

All the wealth we have right now is just an illusion of wealth created with money that doesnt really exist. This is what has caused this financial mess and there is no way out other than a MASSIVE DESTRUCTION OF WEALTH. In this destruction a massive transfer of assets from the public to the bankers will follow.

So out of all this bullshit, the bankers will emerge YET again as the victors.

exactly.

Yeah.

The way you will know for sure that it was a conspiracy is the end result. And what is the end result that the controllers wish to accomplish?

A NEW WORLD ORDER. A Global Enslavement Government.

How can they have this with the United States in it's current condition? And with all of it's constitutionary rights? etc? They can't. And thats why they know that the United States MUST be absorbed into a North American Union before it can finally be set up to take it's place as just another piece of land in the One World Government of the New World Order.

Wait for it, it's coming. They only have one shot at it before the Pole-Shift changes their plans for them. They know their time is limited. Look for it. They (some of the people who work for them) will soon come out and push for a North American Union on the news, in the newspapers, on their radio stations, etc. The media. That is their only tool for mass hypnosis (mass-suggestion). And they will use it. They have no other option. Judge them at that time. Judge them by their actions. Not by rumors of their actions.

By the way, when they finally do use every ounce of the Media that they control, as a push for the North American Union, and when you can see with your own eyes that they are clearly suggesting the idea of a North American Union to the American people, and spoon feeding it to you like it's good for you, there will still be people on this board (and all over the place) who will tell you that you do not understand what you are looking at. Simply put.....DON'T BELIEVE THEM. Believe in your own eyes, And in your own intuition.

If you can't trust yourself, who can you trust?

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
If you can't trust yourself, who can you trust?
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