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Gladiator,Silver Surfer,Rulk,Thor,WW Hulk vs. Superboy Prime. No bfr and to the death.

Originally posted by joshypooh
Gladiator,Silver Surfer,Rulk,Thor,WW Hulk vs. Superboy Prime. No bfr and to the death. Team take it 10/10

Rulk knocks Thor out, steals Mjonir, and fries SBP with a Red Godblast.

Team easy peasy.

team

Rulk sees a kindered soul, joins SMP's team, which gives Prime's team the win.

Rulk bitchslap SuperEmo Prime for trying to be more bad ass that he is.

Just wanted to say "Rulk" has no feats putting him above Prime.

Originally posted by Val-E-Doosh
Just wanted to say "Rulk" has no feats putting him above Prime.

You were expecting logic?

Most seriously... Surfer alone would be a match for Prime.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Most seriously... Surfer alone would be a match for Prime. Lol wut?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Lol wut?

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Most seriously... Surfer alone would be a match for Prime.





The team almost stomps.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Most seriously... Surfer alone would be a match for Prime.

This.

Team takes this.

Rulk and WWH are non factors. They don't have the abilities to keep up in this fight, they die in the first second.

I'm not too sure how Thor could cope with someone of Prime's speed, he was able to counter a blitz from 3 Flashes IIRC.

I dunno if SS and Gladiator can put him down, I mean he beat some of DC's best and the likes of the JSA and JLA can equal this team. And survived that explosion that destroyed an entire Universe.

Originally posted by The Pict
Rulk and WWH are non factors. They don't have the abilities to keep up in this fight, they die in the first second.

I'm not too sure how Thor could cope with someone of Prime's speed, he was able to counter a blitz from 3 Flashes IIRC.

I dunno if SS and Gladiator can put him down, I mean he beat some of DC's best and the likes of the JSA and JLA can equal this team. And survived that explosion that destroyed an entire Universe. They are factors. Dismissing Rulk and WW Hulk is completely illogical and ignores both of their storylines and feats imo.

Surfer can expose his weaknesses while the others attack. Prime gets overwhelmed and in a hurry.

Originally posted by The Pict
Rulk and WWH are non factors. They don't have the abilities to keep up in this fight, they die in the first second.

I'm not too sure how Thor could cope with someone of Prime's speed, he was able to counter a blitz from 3 Flashes IIRC.

I dunno if SS and Gladiator can put him down, I mean he beat some of DC's best and the likes of the JSA and JLA can equal this team. And survived that explosion that destroyed an entire Universe.

Surfer alone is a match for prime. Advanced Matter manipulation destroys SBP's power suit, depowering him significantly.

SBP is ALSO hellaciously vulnerable to red solar radiation. Cosmic awareness ensures that surfer knows this and is able to exploit it, saturating SBP's cells with red solar radiation as the fight goes on, until SBP is totally depowered.

Alternatively, Surfer could simply drain the YELLOW solar energy from Prime just as fast.

Defensively, surfer can go intangible so SBP can't touch him, or microscopic and wreck SBP from the inside out.

An intelligently written surfer would RUIN SBP...and that's not even considering what the rest of the team could do.

Originally posted by The Pict
Rulk and WWH are non factors. They don't have the abilities to keep up in this fight, they die in the first second.

I'm not too sure how Thor could cope with someone of Prime's speed, he was able to counter a blitz from 3 Flashes IIRC.

I dunno if SS and Gladiator can put him down, I mean he beat some of DC's best and the likes of the JSA and JLA can equal this team. And survived that explosion that destroyed an entire Universe.

Are u talking about the time the three flashes grabbed him and pushed him into the speed force? Cause if u are i did not see too much countering of anything.

Team clearly takes this. WWH and Rulk wont be non factors here because prime wont be able to blitz them while he is getting double teamed by surfer and gladiator. Surfer can mess up his solar suit and then pour on the red sun radiation and absorb his solar energy while gladiator and thor are constantly attacking him. Rulk and WWH can then come in to assist in his KOing.

Superboy prime didnt' need his solar suit when he flew str8 thru the anti monitor's body. Prime can't even die. This team can't destroy a universe. Prime survived universal destruction. This team would die in the first few seconds. There are people who think he will be double teamed by surfer and gladiator. LMAO. Prime bitched Superman, Alan scott, hal jordan, and a host of others including firestorm,( who has red solar powers), get off the marvel bandwagon. Prime isn't just a team wrecker, he's a high end heralds team wrecker. He's wrecked more high end guys than tyrant did. And they actually all fought prime at the same time.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superboy prime didnt' need his solar suit when he flew str8 thru the anti monitor's body. Prime can't even die. This team can't destroy a universe. Prime survived universal destruction. This team would die in the first few seconds. There are people who think he will be double teamed by surfer and gladiator. LMAO. Prime bitched Superman, Alan scott, hal jordan, and a host of others including firestorm,( who has red solar powers), get off the marvel bandwagon. Prime isn't just a team wrecker, he's a high end heralds team wrecker. He's wrecked more high end guys than tyrant did. And they actually all fought prime at the same time. Is it that time of month? Seem your the only person bashing on companys... lolz

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superboy prime didnt' need his solar suit when he flew str8 thru the anti monitor's body. Prime can't even die. This team can't destroy a universe. Prime survived universal destruction. This team would die in the first few seconds. There are people who think he will be double teamed by surfer and gladiator. LMAO. Prime bitched Superman, Alan scott, hal jordan, and a host of others including firestorm,( who has red solar powers), get off the marvel bandwagon. Prime isn't just a team wrecker, he's a high end heralds team wrecker. He's wrecked more high end guys than tyrant did. And they actually all fought prime at the same time. According to forum rules a bfr counts as a loss and he was bfr'd. Prime was defeated by the flashes and by a red sun before so trying to say it takes a universal blast to defeat him is incorrect.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Is it that time of month? Seem your the only person bashing on companys... lolz

Originally posted by quanchi112
According to forum rules a bfr counts as a loss and he was bfr'd. Prime was defeated by the flashes and by a red sun before so trying to say it takes a universal blast to defeat him is incorrect.

There's no bfr here, what's that got to do with anything?

"trying to say it takes a universal blast to defeat him is incorrect"

she said it didn't kill him, didn't say he wasn't defeated.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Seem your the only person bashing on companys... lolz

Its Nvr so what do you expect???

Originally posted by The Pict
There's no bfr here, what's that got to do with anything?

"trying to say it takes a universal blast to defeat him is incorrect" she said it didn't kill him, didn't say he wasn't defeated. Regardless,imo he was bfr'd and didnt hold his ground. I think time trapper plucked him out to save him but thats neither here nor there.

Red solar energy quickly will depower him when he is getting pounded by the rest of this team.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Is it that time of month? Seem your the only person bashing on companys... lolz
Not bashing any company. not once did you see me bash a company. I'd do the same if some idiot said Superman could beat a group of marvel guys I know he couldn't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
According to forum rules a bfr counts as a loss and he was bfr'd. Prime was defeated by the flashes and by a red sun before so trying to say it takes a universal blast to defeat him is incorrect.
When he was defeated by a red sun, was he wearing a solar suit to empower him? Becuz you have to know that he did move planets around the universe. passing millions of red suns. One must think that he can survive red sun radiation when at full power.

Originally posted by fangirl101
When he was defeated by a red sun, was he wearing a solar suit to empower him? Becuz you have to know that he did move planets around the universe. passing millions of red suns. One must think that he can survive red sun radiation when at full power. No,he cant. When they took his inside of a red sun he lost his powers for quite a long time. If red solar energy hits him it can depower him. Thats the point. It would take some time,but look at the team here. Prime has no chance of survival imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No,he cant. When they took his inside of a red sun he lost his powers for quite a long time. If red solar energy hits him it can depower him. Thats the point. It would take some time,but look at the team here. Prime has no chance of survival imo.
Prime had to be tricked into a red sun. And He had his suit on then. When prime didn't have his suit on, he was at full power. Anyway, I don't want to argue with you.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Prime had to be tricked into a red sun. And He had his suit on then. When prime didn't have his suit on, he was at full power. Anyway, I don't want to argue with you. Yes,the suit fed him constant energy,but it didnt matter when he went inside the red sun. It depowered all three supermen.

Originally posted by fangirl101
When he was defeated by a red sun, was he wearing a solar suit to empower him? Becuz you have to know that he did move planets around the universe. passing millions of red suns. One must think that he can survive red sun radiation when at full power.

"passing by" a red sun while going lightspeed or so, versus being thrown THROUGH one, or being hit by concentrated energy FROM one are completely different things.

Fact is that a significant amount of red solar energy DID depower SBP, and a sustained amount of it kept him that way. The only reason he wasn't simply killed is that the DC heroes felt imprisonment was preferable to murder in that case.

SBP has no shot against this team, playing by forum rules.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
"passing by" a red sun while going lightspeed or so, versus being thrown THROUGH one, or being hit by concentrated energy FROM one are completely different things.

Fact is that a significant amount of red solar energy DID depower SBP, and a sustained amount of it kept him that way. The only reason he wasn't simply killed is that the DC heroes felt imprisonment was preferable to murder in that case.

SBP has no shot against this team, playing by forum rules.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
"passing by" a red sun while going lightspeed or so, versus being thrown THROUGH one, or being hit by concentrated energy FROM one are completely different things.

Fact is that a significant amount of red solar energy DID depower SBP, and a sustained amount of it kept him that way. The only reason he wasn't simply killed is that the DC heroes felt imprisonment was preferable to murder in that case.

SBP has no shot against this team, playing by forum rules.
No one on this team has the power of a red star. By forum rules.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No one on this team has the power of a red star. By forum rules.

Surfer can easily emit massive amounts of red sun radition though.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No one on this team has the power of a red star. By forum rules. Surfer can funnel in red solar energy into Prime and pretty easily.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Surfer can easily emit massive amounts of red sun radition though.
No before he gets his head blitzed off. emo fighting to kill is a serious thing. surfer has been knocked out by thanos. prime is so much faster and more mobile than thanos. And far far far stronger.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No one on this team has the power of a red star. By forum rules.

Surfer does. EASILY. are you familiar with his powerset? He's capable of producing a VAST amount of any kind of energy along the electromagnetic spectrum, and his power reserves (when at full power) have been shown on numerous occasions to EXCEED the output of a star.

see quasar vs. surfer in the respect thread, where this is explicitly stated to be the case.

surfer also has light speed reaction times, as well as cosmic awareness which guarantees he's able to analyze a situation including the weaknesses of his adversaries in microseconds.

put the two together and you have SBP being bombarded instantaneously with massive amounts of red solar energy that WILL drain his powers, leaving him wide open for the rest of this team to manhandle him.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No before he gets his head blitzed off. emo fighting to kill is a serious thing. surfer has been knocked out by thanos. prime is so much faster and more mobile than thanos. And far far far stronger. Huh? Who has Prime defeated on Surfer's level this easily?

It took Prime time to defeat Ion and superboy. Surfer is well above both. Surfer has also been upgraded.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No before he gets his head blitzed off. emo fighting to kill is a serious thing. surfer has been knocked out by thanos. prime is so much faster and more mobile than thanos. And far far far stronger.

Surfers head is not going anywhere. What gives u the idea that prime can kill SS before he can react? SS has been knocked out by thanos with cosmic empowered fists but that was before his upgrade anyway. He has received a significant durability boost since then surviving multiple aimed to kill shots from tenebrous and aegis. Prime is NOT one shotting SS. All ss needs to do is to create a red sun radiation sphere around prime, something he can do very quickly. From there its all down hill.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Surfer does. EASILY. are you familiar with his powerset? He's capable of producing a VAST amount of any kind of energy along the electromagnetic spectrum, and his power reserves (when at full power) have been shown on numerous occasions to EXCEED the output of a star.

see quasar vs. surfer in the respect thread, where this is explicitly stated to be the case.

surfer also has light speed reaction times, as well as cosmic awareness which guarantees he's able to analyze a situation including the weaknesses of his adversaries in microseconds.

put the two together and you have SBP being bombarded instantaneously with massive amounts of red solar energy that WILL drain his powers, leaving him wide open for the rest of this team to manhandle him.
Too bad Surfer doesn't produce Thanocide at those speeds. In all the years that He's faced Slow puss Thanos. Surfer went made from absorbing power from a star. And yet you say he has enough power to emit the power of one. Surfer isn't as fast as prime. He isn't strong enough to withstand his head being ripped off. Prime is a Precrisis kryptonian. And from the looks of it, the most powerful one.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Too bad Surfer doesn't produce Thanocide at those speeds. In all the years that He's faced Slow puss Thanos. Surfer went made from absorbing power from a star. And yet you say he has enough power to emit the power of one. Surfer isn't as fast as prime. He isn't strong enough to withstand his head being ripped off. Prime is a Precrisis kryptonian. And from the looks of it, the most powerful one.

surfer has easily created multiple blackholes before. So it is safe to say his power output far exceeds that of a star. Please dont bring up thanocide because frankly it is not the same. Drax was created by a cosmic being to be able to take down thanos specifically. Its not just something any energy manipulator can do. Prime wont be able to rip surfers head off before surfer can mount some form of defense. He will then be surrounded by a sphere of red sun radiation and quadruple teamed by thor, gladiator and the hulks

Originally posted by fangirl101
Too bad Surfer doesn't produce Thanocide at those speeds. In all the years that He's faced Slow puss Thanos. Surfer went made from absorbing power from a star. And yet you say he has enough power to emit the power of one. Surfer isn't as fast as prime. He isn't strong enough to withstand his head being ripped off. Prime is a Precrisis kryptonian. And from the looks of it, the most powerful one.


Since you're using thanos and calling him slow, show me a speed feat from monarch because he tapped primes head. Half of the titans hit prime and 90% of the team dont possess any kind of speed. Wonder girl hit prime, show me her highest speed feat. So I guess prime and surfer would be fighting like some snails since both have been hit by slow pokes. LOL

Honestly, even without the surfer I think that this team has the ability to beat prime. Everyone on the battle field have proven to be planet wreckers. Prime has feats under his belt that none has replicated because they were never put in that situation but all have amazing feats like gladiator flexing his muscles breaking the crimson bands of cyttorak. Thats a impossible feat but he did it. Wwh being able to destroy a planet just by walking. Thor Damaging a celestial and beating a guy (the destroyer) that is a wrecker of gods with ease. Surfer is just the tip of the cake.

Originally posted by carver9
Honestly, even without the surfer I think that this team has the ability to beat prime. Everyone on the battle field have proven to be planet wreckers. Prime has feats under his belt that none has replicated because they were never put in that situation but all have amazing feats like gladiator flexing his muscles breaking the crimson bands of cyttorak. Thats a impossible feat but he did it. Wwh being able to destroy a planet just by walking. Thor Damaging a celestial and beating a guy (the destroyer) that is a wrecker of gods with ease. Surfer is just the tip of the cake.

This.

but in this case we have a powerhouse team vs. one really strong individual with an obvious weakness. (that is, red solar energy will depower said individual)

rather than debating how much power it would take to put SBP down if he was at full strength, it's a lot more conclusive to show that the team could simply remove his powers entirely, making the issue moot.

Team stomps here, 10/10.

SS is the key character to this fight without him, SBP stomps.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
SS is the key character to this fight without him, SBP stomps.


Take SS out, team still stomps.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
SS is the key character to this fight without him, SBP stomps.

And what makes you say this because he pushed a planet, well gladiator has done the same thing. Because he destroyed a planet, well gladiator has done that also. How about him taking a universal destroy blast, well time trapper could have saved him and again gladiator was in the heart of a solar system destroying blast and didnt even register it, not the same as a universal destroying blast but hey. Or maybe your going to bring up him going through the red sun well gladiator swimmed in a star thousands of miles long and remember gladiator dont get his powers from the sun, that was true durability. Maybe your using the punch that prime used against ion that broke a cementary up, well gladiator was going to punch cannonball from the earth to the core of the sun. You might be using the hype that the jla have been saying about primes strength, well again gladiator was stated by nova as being one of the strongest guys in the universe (used gladiator because I like the character, not saying that he can solo this). So what reasons are you giving prime the win.

Originally posted by carver9
How about him taking a universal destroy blast, well time trapper could have saved him and again gladiator was in the heart of a solar system destroying blast and didnt even register it, not the same as a universal destroying blast but hey.

Originally posted by carver9
Or maybe your going to bring up him going through the red sun well gladiator swimmed in a star thousands of miles long and remember gladiator dont get his powers from the sun, that was true durability.

Originally posted by carver9
Maybe your using the punch that prime used against ion that broke a cementary up

Do you try hard to reach this level of intelligence ?

Well, forum rules by default stated each characters fight at their best. So this means, Glad is around PC Supes level. Would Thor be King than?

So yeah.....I guess the team still wins without SS.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Well, forum rules by default stated each characters fight at their best. So this means, Glad is around PC Supes level.

*slowly backs down from the thread fearing that he will be infected aswell*

Originally posted by Mindset
There's no escape.

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Originally posted by carver9
So you are basically saying that everything that I have said is a lie?



No, just BS thats all

Originally posted by carver9
So you are basically saying that everything that I have said is a lie?
Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
No, just BS thats all

Heh.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
No, just BS thats all

I can be that but again everything that I said was nothing but the truth. I have yet to insult you so why not give the same treatment. I said things that was done on panel and you degrade it. Again, tell me the reason why superman prime would beat this team even if surfer wasnt there?

Rulk and WWH...LOL