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Ive always been a fan of heroes who fight with hand to hand as their primary source, like Iron Fist, Batgirl(when not using gadgets), Batman(when not using gadgets), Captain America, Daredevil etc. I would like to know who do you guys think have the best hand to hand to skills in the Marvel/DC universe?

In Marvel, Gamora. In DC? Karate Kid. (Maybe?)

Originally posted by Enyalus
In Marvel, Gamora. In DC? Karate Kid. (Maybe?)
Gamora and captain american is enhanced hand to hand fighters, but I say my favorite for Marvel is Dare devil.

In DC, Lady Shiva

In DC, Kyle Rayner.

Originally posted by Mindset
In DC, Kyle Rayner.

I can't tell you how much I loved that response.

Originally posted by Mindset
In DC, Kyle Rayner. Kyle considered the best at anything is laughable, unless we're talking about best reaction to girlfriend in refrigerator.

Taskmaster after watching the best.

In Marvel, it's between Gamora and Moondragon I guess

Mantis on average is > Moondragon and Gamora, I think.

Originally posted by Cavalier
Mantis on average is > Moondragon and Gamora, I think.

Not by a lot, but the difference is there.

Captain America and Batman. These guys aren't superhuman, yet their H2H skill allows them to rival many superhuman beings.

Val Armorr/Karate Kid

stick and shang chi fo rmarvel..

Taskmaster for Marvel
Cassandra Cain for DC (eventually)

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Kyle considered the best at anything is laughable, unless we're talking about best reaction to girlfriend in refrigerator.

crylaugh

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Captain America and Batman. These guys aren't superhuman, yet their H2H skill allows them to rival many superhuman beings.
well caps shield plays a major role in that

Ogun

DC-Karate Kid at his best. Followed far far far behind by Richard Dragon.
Marvel- Between Gamora,Mantis and Moondrgon I guess. Don't forget Mandarin and Temugin though.

DC: Karate Kid, Batman, Lady Shiva, Cassandra Cain, Deathstroke
Marvel: Shang Chi, Captain America, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Gamora

In DC, I'd take KK, and in Marvel, I'd take Cap.

Originally posted by Harbinger
DC: Karate Kid, Batman, Lady Shiva, Cassandra Cain, Deathstroke
Marvel: Shang Chi, Captain America, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Gamora

In DC, I'd take KK, and in Marvel, I'd take Cap.

Interesting list. Deathstroke is no way a top tier IMO.Really with DC all the top tier MAs are somewhat similar IMO. Except of course with KK included who is lightyears ahead of the rest.
In Marvel however guys like Mandarin when compared to Cap are on another level. Him and his son did afterall slap up Ironman barehanded.

Deathstroke is not top tier MAs.

captain america

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Captain America and Batman. These guys aren't superhuman, yet their H2H skill allows them to rival many superhuman beings.

^ war machine shooting that ship down, and the big ass armor suit was epic.


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champion SHOULD be the best by far.

as for humans, imo the foreigner

Originally posted by jalek moye
well caps shield plays a major role in that

Uhhhhh! Somebody educate this guy.

Punisher.

I always thought cassandra cain is up there as well. she's been train all her life pretty much.

Karate Kid ftw.

What about this O-Sensei people list in the Ranks for MAs thread? He's above Shiva and Cass isn't he? I presume it's a he.

Honestly Wolverine should be up there, with all those years of experience. But he is too often written as a guy who leaps in, claws first.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Kyle considered the best at anything is laughable, unless we're talking about best reaction to girlfriend in refrigerator.

This message is pwnage incarnate.