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Who wins?

Thanos- http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos

vs

Seth- http://www.marvel.com/universe/Seth

Seth

How bad is Seth? What are some of his greatest feats? Other than that, Is this Thanos with, or without the IG?

This is Thanos during Annihilation

Odin vs Seth

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Thanos died??when....

Wow, Seth stomps.

Is there a respect thread for Seth?

Thanos wins.

Seth in a terrible stomp, unless Thanos can handle the power to rip the fabric of dimensions.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Seth in a terrible stomp, unless Thanos can handle the power to rip the fabric of dimensions. Seth got stomped by Odin. Odin didnt beat Thanos at all.

Seth FTW

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Thanos died??when....

3 times.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Seth got stomped by Odin. Odin didnt beat Thanos at all. It is posts like this that make no one really take your opinion seriously.

Seth wins so I can see Quanchi cry.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
3 times.

When was his latest time?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
It is posts like this that make no one really take your opinion seriously.

Seth wins so I can see Quanchi cry.

What did Seth do to prove he is capable of defeating Thanos?

He died in Annihilation serise

After his death
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The cover of the book where Thanos was killed
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One word for describing Thanos on this cover: Bad-ass.

Oh, and Thanos wins

Seth

*Insert any char name* vs Thanos on KMC = Thanos win...but seriously Set win.

Seth wins.

Seth wins his attacks actually fazed Odin Thanos attacks did nothing.

Originally posted by D-Block
Seth wins his attacks actually fazed Odin Thanos attacks did nothing.

But Odin Lay down the smackdown out of Seth. Nah?

Originally posted by skygunner41
*Insert any char name* vs Thanos on KMC = Thanos win...but seriously Set win. How?Originally posted by D-Block
Seth wins his attacks actually fazed Odin Thanos attacks did nothing. Did you read the battle?

bumpity bump.. lets restart this.. i'll take thanos not sure how consistent seth really is.. i mean sure high feat odin but after that?

Originally posted by guy222
Odin vs Seth

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Originally posted by Bouboumaster
But Odin Lay down the smackdown out of Seth. Nah? thanos is more durable, thats it

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
bumpity bump.. lets restart this.. i'll take thanos not sure how consistent seth really is.. i mean sure high feat odin but after that? there was really nothing after that, he is skyfather level.

Thanos wins all day.

The last time we saw Seth utilize his powers, was against Odin and he seemed to have taken himself to the next step.

He wins.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The last time we saw Seth utilize his powers, was against Odin and he seemed to have taken himself to the next step.

He wins. Odin easily won soon as his memory returned. Odin never defeated Thanos.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
But Odin Lay down the smackdown out of Seth. Nah? odin just banished seth out of asgard, which is a bfr
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin easily won soon as his memory returned. Odin never defeated Thanos.

Exactly. Odin couldn't put Thanos down for good. Hell, Thanos' clothes weren't even damaged.

And this was Odin in the very heart of Asgard. In the Seth/Odin battle, Odin was just regaining his power/memories.

^ like i said, odin just banished seth out of asgard nothing more
he even says i will prepare for your return or something like that

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The last time we saw Seth utilize his powers, was against Odin and he seemed to have taken himself to the next step.

He wins. that last fight we saw from seth he tank blows from thunderstrike and bloodaxe and was then later killed by bloodstrike

Originally posted by zopzop
Exactly. Odin couldn't put Thanos down for good. Hell, Thanos' clothes weren't even damaged.

And this was Odin in the very heart of Asgard. In the Seth/Odin battle, Odin was just regaining his power/memories.

And what exactly did Thanos do? Seriously what? Show me where he even budged Odin? Thanos was thrashed about by Odin and knocked off his feat 3 times.

Seth takes this. Odin removed him from Asgard because of his threat. Odin gave Thanos a chance to give up. Big difference in tactics.

not to mention seth snatched odin out of his fight with surter and imprisoned him

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
And what exactly did Thanos do? Seriously what? Show me where he even budged Odin? Thanos was thrashed about by Odin and knocked off his feat 3 times.

Thanos was unfazed by a pissed off Odin in his seat of power. Knocked about? Yes? Hurt? Hell no. Like I said, his freaking CLOTHING wasn't even singed.



How can Seth take this if he can't even hurt Thanos? At best it's a stalemate.

Thanos.

Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos was unfazed by a pissed off Odin in his seat of power. Knocked about? Yes? Hurt? Hell no. Like I said, his freaking CLOTHING wasn't even singed.

Unfazed is what happened to Odin. You do know the meaning of unfazed right?

Hurt? How do you know he was hurt? His clothes were ripped, he was blasted into a castle, he was even on his knees. Lol.

Again I ask you, what DID Thanos DO to Odin? That's right, nothing.

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Oh look, Seth actually effecting Odin with an attack. And at this point, their fight was wrecking atleast galaxies.
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Seth takes this.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Unfazed is what happened to Odin. You do know the meaning of unfazed right?

Hurt? How do you know he was hurt? His clothes were ripped, he was blasted into a castle, he was even on his knees. Lol.

Again I ask you, what DID Thanos DO to Odin? That's right, nothing.

You know Thanos wasn't in it to kill Odin right? You know Odin attacked because he thought they pwned his son right? You know Thanos was UNHURT right (show me where even his clothes are damaged). You know even Thanos blasted Galactus off his feet and hurled him across a moon but Galactus was unhurt right?

Being thrown around don't mean jack. Thanos wasn't backing down. Compare this fight to the DP Tyrant fight (in which THanos was amped with one of Tyrant's power orbs). As soon as THanos realized Tyrant wasn't playing around, he TPed the hell out of there.

Seth takes nothing. Odin didn't do jack to him, neither will Seth.

Originally posted by zopzop
You know Thanos wasn't in it to kill Odin right? You know Odin attacked because he thought they pwned his son right? You know Thanos was UNHURT right (show me where even his clothes are damaged). You know even Thanos blasted Galactus off his feet and hurled him across a moon but Galactus was unhurt right?

Lol. You know that Thanos isn't one to be made a fool of right? You do know what Thanos did jack against Odin. He couldn't even move him in the slightest. Let's not try and play up Thanos like he did anything to Odin at all. As for Galactus, what makes you think Odin couldn't do the same thing if he caught Galactus off guard? You do know what BRB cracked Galactus' armor with Stormbreaker right? And BRB isn't anyway close to Odin's level, the power of which he enchanted his hammer.

Thanos knocking Galactus is a good one. Then Galactus came back and kicked his ass. You do remember that part right? As oppose to Odin who knocks Thanos on his ass about 3 times and Thanos retaliated TO NO AVAIL. Do you understand that part? NO AVAIL. His retaliation were all tanked by Odin who then proceeded to knock him around again.

Look, his armor isn't ripped at all. That's not Thanos on the ground at all.
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So getting kicked around and up able to move your opponent in the slightest is some kind of feat? Lol. And being a stubborn dumb-ass some how makes him a badass. Thanos is a badass alright, who couldn't do a thing against Odin.



He wasn't even tapping into that orb. DP Tyrant is not Odin at all. DP Tyrant took several attacks to down herald beings. Odin one-shotted both Surfer and Drax. Odin didn't even budge at all while Thanos knocked Tyrant about. As soon as Thanos proved that he could survive a conflict with Tyrant, he took his prize and left despite Tyrant's threats. He wasn't afraid of Tyrant and mocked him at the end.

Thanos did what now to Odin?



Is that why Thanos was one the ground and quivering as he got up? Lol. Odin just jacked up Thanos, who couldn't even move the old man.

Yeah, uhm Odin easily destroyed Seth and this was soon as his memory returned he was nothing to him whereas Thanos was someone he saluted and failed to take down with his memory and powers intact the entire fight.

It sure took a few panels for Thanos to stand up during that Odin fight.

Here we go again with WWK and his nonsense about the Thanos vs Tyrant fight....

Tyrant SAID that he was surprised Thanos was still alive and that is something he would remedy. Thanos AGREED and said... you're right you would if I stuck around longer.... Compare that to Odin... at NO point did Thanos back down.. and NO POINT did he think about leaving for fear of dying. Yet with Tyrant... he KNEW he would die if he stuck around. You claim it's because he already had his prize... funny you say that... Thanos had already brought Thor to someone that could help him and stop the threat that was Thor. So by your reasoning he could've just teleported back to his home and left Thor there. Oooo but wait... he didn't.. He had no fear of facing Odin. A stark contrast to his words and actions against Tyrant.

In fact, lets not even get into him not even wanting to fight Odin while LOOKING for a fight with Tyrant. To go further, would you wanna hurt someone and KO someone you're trying to get help from to solve a bigger thread? Nah.. that defies logic.

Sure Odin could blast Galactus the way Thanos did.. I have no doubt about that. However, it also seemed to prove his blast power has increased after his upgrade. Maybe so, maybe not. However, I think it's logical to think that if he could send Galactus MILES threw his ship and couldn't really move Odin.. now he could.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yeah, uhm Odin easily destroyed Seth and this was soon as his memory returned he was nothing to him whereas Thanos was someone he saluted and failed to take down with his memory and powers intact the entire fight. please read other post before you post, seth was just bfr'd
as soon as odins memory returned he just removed seth out of asgard.

odin gave thanos the chance to surrender while he had to bfr seth
seth wins

Odins cry in pain was heard across the cosmos, what did thanos do to odin again?

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Odins cry in pain was heard across the cosmos, what did thanos do to odin again?

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All I see is the Surfer floating high above the Earth commenting on it. Where is Uatu when this is going down? It's supposedly a multiverse shaking event and all we see are Jean, Surfer and Strange commenting on it's "awesomeness".

I can't believe this is still being debated. Thanos was more of an annoyance than a threat to Odin, whereas Odin and Seth's fight was a serious struggle.

Odin had his memories stripped and no clue what he was doing when he fought Seth.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Odin had his memories stripped and no clue what he was doing when he fought Seth.

Exactly. He was under no such limitations when he fought Thanos in the very heart of Asgard. Thanos and crew took out Thor with the Power Gem, defeated Asgard's defenders, and Thanos took the fight to Odin. All this and they didn't even go there looking for a fight, but to get Odin's help in curing Thor! Imagine if Thanos and crew had been out for blood?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Lol. You know that Thanos isn't one to be made a fool of right? You do know what Thanos did jack against Odin. He couldn't even move him in the slightest. Let's not try and play up Thanos like he did anything to Odin at all. As for Galactus, what makes you think Odin couldn't do the same thing if he caught Galactus off guard? You do know what BRB cracked Galactus' armor with Stormbreaker right? And BRB isn't anyway close to Odin's level, the power of which he enchanted his hammer.

Thanos knocking Galactus is a good one. Then Galactus came back and kicked his ass. You do remember that part right? As oppose to Odin who knocks Thanos on his ass about 3 times and Thanos retaliated TO NO AVAIL. Do you understand that part? NO AVAIL. His retaliation were all tanked by Odin who then proceeded to knock him around again.

Look, his armor isn't ripped at all. That's not Thanos on the ground at all.
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So getting kicked around and up able to move your opponent in the slightest is some kind of feat? Lol. And being a stubborn dumb-ass some how makes him a badass. Thanos is a badass alright, who couldn't do a thing against Odin.



He wasn't even tapping into that orb. DP Tyrant is not Odin at all. DP Tyrant took several attacks to down herald beings. Odin one-shotted both Surfer and Drax. Odin didn't even budge at all while Thanos knocked Tyrant about. As soon as Thanos proved that he could survive a conflict with Tyrant, he took his prize and left despite Tyrant's threats. He wasn't afraid of Tyrant and mocked him at the end.

Thanos did what now to Odin?



Is that why Thanos was one the ground and quivering as he got up? Lol. Odin just jacked up Thanos, who couldn't even move the old man.

Thanos wasn't tapping into it's power at all? He was using it to blast Tyrant and using it like a bludgeoning weapon too :
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Notice the look of FEAR in his face when Tyrant blasted it out of Thanos' hand and Thanos was reaching for the globe before Tyrant got to him.

Look at the end of the DP Tyrant/Thanos fight :

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Tore up and fleeing as soon as Tyrant was about to put his foot down.

Now compare this to the Odin/Thanos fight. Thanos was going nowhere! Also notice Thanos needed a plot device, Tyrant's power orb, to go toe to toe with him. And as soon as Tyrant tired of him, even that plot device wasn't going to save Thanos.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Here we go again with WWK and his nonsense about the Thanos vs Tyrant fight....

Tyrant SAID that he was surprised Thanos was still alive and that is something he would remedy. Thanos AGREED and said... you're right you would if I stuck around longer.... Compare that to Odin... at NO point did Thanos back down.. and NO POINT did he think about leaving for fear of dying. Yet with Tyrant... he KNEW he would die if he stuck around. You claim it's because he already had his prize... funny you say that... Thanos had already brought Thor to someone that could help him and stop the threat that was Thor. So by your reasoning he could've just teleported back to his home and left Thor there. Oooo but wait... he didn't.. He had no fear of facing Odin. A stark contrast to his words and actions against Tyrant.

In fact, lets not even get into him not even wanting to fight Odin while LOOKING for a fight with Tyrant. To go further, would you wanna hurt someone and KO someone you're trying to get help from to solve a bigger thread? Nah.. that defies logic.

Sure Odin could blast Galactus the way Thanos did.. I have no doubt about that. However, it also seemed to prove his blast power has increased after his upgrade. Maybe so, maybe not. However, I think it's logical to think that if he could send Galactus MILES threw his ship and couldn't really move Odin.. now he could.

Yeah, now he might be able to move Odin. Because the last time Odin fought him, Odin kicked his ass around and Thanos could do nothing to even move Odin. What part of that is so hard to understand? Thanos got beat about by Odin. How funny people love to point out Thanos blast Galactus and Tyrant about as a feat but ignore Odin doing the same. Then turn it around as some how Thanos being a threat when he could even move him ONCE.

Tyrant? Couldn't one shot Surfer or Gladiator and got beaten around by Thanos. Let's not play this game any more. It's silly how you think Tyrant is comparable to Odin when he felled to put down the same opponents the way Odin did. And Blood and Thunder 12 (Warlock and the Infinity Watch) was written by Starlin - his creator. His pet Thanos couldn't even move Odin. His other pet Warlock ran from the fight.


Originally posted by King Kandy
Odin had his memories stripped and no clue what he was doing when he fought Seth.

Lol? Seems like the "clueless" Odin seems more powerful that regular Odin. That "clueless" Odin grew in stature to fight Seth and rocked the multiverse. Regular Odin decided to throw asteroids at Thanos. If he had no clue, he sure as he did pretty damn well access the Odinforce to fight evenly with Seth and wrecking galaxies. Without a clue he crushed Seth and sent him back to his realm. Even with vague memories, he displayed more power than his regular self against Thanos.

Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos wasn't tapping into it's power at all? He was using it to blast Tyrant and using it like a bludgeoning weapon too :
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7417/part1i.jpg

Notice the look of FEAR in his face when Tyrant blasted it out of Thanos' hand and Thanos was reaching for the globe before Tyrant got to him.

Look at the end of the DP Tyrant/Thanos fight :

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Tore up and fleeing as soon as Tyrant was about to put his foot down.

See my earlier reply. Tyrant took several shots to put down Surfer. Odin oneshotted him; Surfer and Drax were out the entire fight. As soon as Tyrant put his foot down, the dust cleared and Thanos got up again to mock him. Tyrant then made threats to which Thanos could careless about. Death? Really? Death Because death is something Thanos fears right? Thanos then took his prize and left because he'd fought and survived Tyrant as he wanted to prove himself.

I like that last picture and the fear in his face when he holds out Morg's orb - it even looks like a smile. And here's more to go with it. Look at the fear in his face here.
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Notice the Odin/Thanos fight where Thanos couldn't even move Odin at any time? Notice that? And notice how Odin backhands Thanos like Thanos owed him something?

And that orb, it's Morg's power. Are you trying to argue Morg's power was more powerful than Thanos? Yeah, I notice how Thanos' eyes are black. It's always like that. I can't see his mouth so I can't tell what expression it was. That orb contains the power of a herald, which below either Thanos or Tyrant. It didn't give him any power ups.

Seth.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Yeah, now he might be able to move Odin. Because the last time Odin fought him, Odin kicked his ass around and Thanos could do nothing to even move Odin. What part of that is so hard to understand? Thanos got beat about by Odin. How funny people love to point out Thanos blast Galactus and Tyrant about as a feat but ignore Odin doing the same. Then turn it around as some how Thanos being a threat when he could even move him ONCE.

Tyrant? Couldn't one shot Surfer or Gladiator and got beaten around by Thanos. Let's not play this game any more. It's silly how you think Tyrant is comparable to Odin when he felled to put down the same opponents the way Odin did. And Blood and Thunder 12 (Warlock and the Infinity Watch) was written by Starlin - his creator. His pet Thanos couldn't even move Odin. His other pet Warlock ran from the fight.




Lol? Seems like the "clueless" Odin seems more powerful that regular Odin. That "clueless" Odin grew in stature to fight Seth and rocked the multiverse. Regular Odin decided to throw asteroids at Thanos. If he had no clue, he sure as he did pretty damn well access the Odinforce to fight evenly with Seth and wrecking galaxies. Without a clue he crushed Seth and sent him back to his realm. Even with vague memories, he displayed more power than his regular self against Thanos.

The fact remains... that going by Thanos as a mutual adversary... Tyrant certainly appeared more powerful. Why do you keep on bsing and saying he didn't one shot surfer? He did.. TWiCE. He one shot him... he goes down and stays down... Tyrant proceeds to stomp all over the other heralds there. Surfer wakes up... only to be one shot again lol. Tyrant beating Glads, Surfer, BRB, JOH, Gay, Morg, Terrax poops ALL over Odin one shotting surfer and drax. Then when we go further he totally and completly poops all over Odin.. judging by THanos... Thanos FEARED sticking around to fight Tyrant and admitted he would be killed. AT NO TIME did he express pear over sticking around to face Odin and NEVER EVER backed down. He WALKED RIGHT THROUGH Odin Gungnir blast to prove a point that he could take what Odin could dish out. Tyrant put his foot down... Thanos clothes were gone he was on the ground.. He then knows it's time to leave. Huge difference. Lastly, Tyrant punked Galactus and made him his *****.. A WELL FED PREPPED Galactus. That poops all over what Odin did. Remember what happened to Odin when he faced "Galactus" he shot shit on. Tyrant shit on Galactus. Tyrant is more powerful than Odin and that is just how the cookie crumbles bud.

Seth seems way more impressive.

Originally posted by Bentley
Seth seems way more impressive.

Yes but in what way? I've never heard it explained. Seth held his own vs an amnesiac Odin. As soon as Odin regained his full power and senses, Seth was crushed.

Thanos went to Asgard to get Odin's HELP to cure Thor. He didn't go there with the intention of leveling the place. Odin was in his right mind and had his full abilities in the very seat of his power.

People see the Odin/Thanos fight and say "LOL look Thanos couldn't hurt Odin!". It's more a durability feat for Thanos. An enraged Odin, remember he thought Thanos imprisoned/attacked Thor for no reason, was beating on Thanos. Odin was even about to "mourn for such a valiant foe" or whatever but Thanos told him to "save the eulogy for when the body cools".

Thanos wasn't backing off or running away.



Uhm we don't know what Tyrant does to the powers he puts in those orbs. Thanos was holding on to that Orb as if his life depended on it. You'll even notice that after the beating Thanos took, his clothes were torn but the hand holding the Orb still has it's glove intact. The scan proves Thanos was in a panic and reached for the Orb to hold off Tyrant.

But when Tyrant got annoyed, even that Orb wasn't going to save Thanos and he tped away.

And it's nothing about "his eyes being black" look at his brow. The expression is one of concern. As soon as he succeeds in reaching the Orb he smiles and blasts Tyrant with it.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The fact remains... that going by Thanos as a mutual adversary... Tyrant certainly appeared more powerful. Why do you keep on bsing and saying he didn't one shot surfer? He did.. TWiCE. He one shot him... he goes down and stays down...

He went down for a couple of panels. If anything, all Tyrant did was knock him away for the fight. You do know what one-shotting someone is right? Odin one-shot KOed Surfer; Tyrant swatted him away for a couple of panels then had to deal with Surfer again - not the same thing. Tyrant's eye beam dazed Gladiator. Odin's one blast KOed Drax for the entire fight.



Woke up? Where did you have him down the first time and not simply blasted away? The only time he was down was after Tyrant attacked him a second time.



WTF are smoking? Surfer is the strongest one there and Odin one-shot koed him out the entire fight. Everybody on your list wouldn't fare any better.

JOH - WTF? Don't even joke about this.
Morg & Terrax - Surfer level at best
Gladiator & Beta Ray Bill - Get trashed. Gladiator was on his knees begging Odin to stop Thor before the Reigning began. BRB gets his power from Odin. And both's durability are below Thanos. Not that far above Surfer if above at all.

And your list leaves out Thanos. Remember how Thanos smacked Tyrant around and then laughed out Tyrant when he tried to threaten Thanos? Thanos never once moved Odin even when he tried.



Tyrant is so powerful that Thanos smacked him around and then stole his orb. Tyrant is so powerful that his claim fame is nothing more then turning Galactus' tech against him, but without tech around fails to take down Thanos. lol How can a skyfather like Odin who wrecks galaxies at his best, beats down hell lords, and a true slayer of head gods compare to Tyrant?

I like how you act as if Galactus was more prepped against Tyrant when Tyrant had thousands of years to prep against Galactus and did use it to his advantage.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes but in what way? I've never heard it explained. Seth held his own vs an amnesiac Odin. As soon as Odin regained his full power and senses, Seth was crushed.

Thanos went to Asgard to get Odin's HELP to cure Thor. He didn't go there with the intention of leveling the place. Odin was in his right mind and had his full abilities in the very seat of his power.

At his right mind, his feats there was a mid-end feat. He was throwing asteroids at Thanos. He wasn't doing anything comparable to his fight with Seth.



Thanos wasn't backing off from Galactus either. It still didn't mean he wasn't getting his ass handed to him.




That orb stores their power. It's nothing more. If you want to say it does, then prove that he did something to them.



His brow? You mean those horn things on his head? What brow?

That orb has Morg's power. He was there to challenge himself. That was the whole point. He was using the orb to beat up Tyrant as to mock him. It's not a power up for Thanos. Nowhere does it indicate the orb does anything for his power.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
He went down for a couple of panels. If anything, all Tyrant did was knock him away for the fight. You do know what one-shotting someone is right? Odin one-shot KOed Surfer; Tyrant swatted him away for a couple of panels then had to deal with Surfer again - not the same thing. Tyrant's eye beam dazed Gladiator. Odin's one blast KOed Drax for the entire fight.



Woke up? Where did you have him down the first time and not simply blasted away? The only time he was down was after Tyrant attacked him a second time.



WTF are smoking? Surfer is the strongest one there and Odin one-shot koed him out the entire fight. Everybody on your list wouldn't fare any better.

JOH - WTF? Don't even joke about this.
Morg & Terrax - Surfer level at best
Gladiator & Beta Ray Bill - Get trashed. Gladiator was on his knees begging Odin to stop Thor before the Reigning began. BRB gets his power from Odin. And both's durability are below Thanos. Not that far above Surfer if above at all.

And your list leaves out Thanos. Remember how Thanos smacked Tyrant around and then laughed out Tyrant when he tried to threaten Thanos? Thanos never once moved Odin even when he tried.



Tyrant is so powerful that Thanos smacked him around and then stole his orb. Tyrant is so powerful that his claim fame is nothing more then turning Galactus' tech against him, but without tech around fails to take down Thanos. lol How can a skyfather like Odin who wrecks galaxies at his best, beats down hell lords, and a true slayer of head gods compare to Tyrant?

I like how you act as if Galactus was more prepped against Tyrant when Tyrant had thousands of years to prep against Galactus and did use it to his advantage.


Here are the facts... Surfer attacked Tyrant and it did NOTHING to him. Tyrant swatted him away and he was gone for a few panels. If he wasn't out.. then why wasn't he shown attacking Tyrant again or in the background waiting to attack. I'll tell you why because he was temp. out of the fight. He came back and got ONE shot again and out cold for good this time.

Glads has better durability than Drax imo... Regardless, they were going eye beam for eye beam... Which Tyrant clearly won which dazed Glads.. but as you know it wasn't a direct eye bem to glads chest.. Glads own eye beam was in front of Glads.. So the fact that this didn't one shot him isn't a surprise. However, then Tyrant gets close and ONE SHOTS him.

I honestly expected more from you WWK. I can't believe you're claiming it's even close in competition on who they faced... Glads & BRB certainly take up well against surfer. Same with Morg. Terrax and JOH not so much but they are still heralds. The point is being uneffected by and one shotting BRB, Glads, Morg, JoH, Terrax and Gay & Surfer poops all over just One shotting Surfer and Drax.

There battle against Thanos makes it even more clear that Tyrant is more powerful. Thanos was using an orb to blast Tyrant which was an increase to his blasting power.. even if a small one. He BACKED DOWN and ADMITTED TRYANT WOULD KILL HIM if he stayed. He did NO such thing when facing Odin. He never once thought about backing down or leaving. Against Tyrant he knew he couldn't stick around once Tyrant got serious. How of God's Green Earth can you say Thanos doesn't back down... He backed down against Galactus after his shields were broken yet you say he didn't WTF. Anyways, Thanos makes it more clear Tyrant is more powerful than Odin.

The kicker and what you can't get around is Galactus. Remember when "galactus" one shot and punked Odin with ease? Now compare that to when he faced Tyrant. HE BACKED DOWN from Tyrant the first time they encounter each other. Don't act like the only reason Tyrant won was because he was using Tech against Galactus. Galactus KNEW Tyrant was a threat and backed down. He rarely if ever backs down and is usually condecending to people he meets who challenge him. Lets not forget that they exchanged blows and blasts BEFORE Galactus decides to bring out the tech. Lets also not forget that Galactus own blasts were making Tyrant stronger... so tech or nor tech Galactus was in serious trouble. This alone with all the above shows Tyrant to be Odin's superior.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
At his right mind, his feats there was a mid-end feat. He was throwing asteroids at Thanos. He wasn't doing anything comparable to his fight with Seth.



And what was he shown doing vs Seth exactly? Bearhugging? Irony is he was shown doing MORE vs Thanos than Seth.




Thanos was begging for his life before Galactus' assault. He wasn't even groaning in pain vs Odin.





Why would he bother putting it in the orbs in the first place and storing it for later? If it's only Morg's power, it's as NOHTING before him. Since he literally one shotted Morg's ass. Why was Thanos reaching for it as if his life depended on it? Why was the only time he made Tyrant groan in pain was when he was using it as a weapon against him?

See below...



Look at how his brow is arching. It's a look of concern. He was trembling to reach the Orb. The picture is right there.



Morg's power? Compare blasts :

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to the one in my previous post with Thanos blasting him with the Orb.

Look at him bludgeoning Tyrant with it :

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Wait are people saying the orb contained Morgs power? if so thats wrong Tyrant gave him back all his power before he set him free just before he faced down Thanos/Ganymede.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Here are the facts... Surfer attacked Tyrant and it did NOTHING to him. Tyrant swatted him away and he was gone for a few panels. If he wasn't out.. then why wasn't he shown attacking Tyrant again or in the background waiting to attack. I'll tell you why because he was temp. out of the fight. He came back and got ONE shot again and out cold for good this time.

It's because he was busy fighting Tyrant's Drones after getting blasted away. He was never knocked out. Everybody there was busy fighting the Drones and Tyrant. Morg and Terrax were busy fighting each other.

Pages 24-26. Surfer was never knocked out.
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Here's Surfer getting one-shotted again...oh never mind. LMAO, Ganymede managed to hurt him.
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Finally, Tyrant manages to one-sho...three-shot Surfer. Good for him.
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So Gladiator's eye beam is enough to slow down Tyrant's own eye beam. Some threat to Odin that Tyrant.

Here's Tyrant failing to put down Jack of Hearts. Lol. JOH manages to self destruct and free the heroes after. Really impressive that Tyrant. After draining that group of heralds and had those heroes fight through his drones, he's pretty impressive.
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Look at Terrax and Morg "fighting" Tyrant.
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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

There battle against Thanos makes it even more clear that Tyrant is more powerful. Thanos was using an orb to blast Tyrant which was an increase to his blasting power.. even if a small one. He BACKED DOWN and ADMITTED TRYANT WOULD KILL HIM if he stayed. He did NO such thing when facing Odin. He never once thought about backing down or leaving. Against Tyrant he knew he couldn't stick around once Tyrant got serious. How of God's Green Earth can you say Thanos doesn't back down... He backed down against Galactus after his shields were broken yet you say he didn't WTF. Anyways, Thanos makes it more clear Tyrant is more powerful than Odin.

Luckily for Thanos, BRB came and intervened because Odin would've trashed him even further. Nobody came and intervened in his fight with Tyrant. Just because he didn't say quite means nothing because he did nothing to Odin. His power is not even comparable. Let's not play games.

Thanos came for a challenge and did not care about death because she no longer wants him.
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Tyrant questions his sanity to which he replies they have called him Mad enough. Tyrant says he's without equal to which Thanos replies prove it.

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Tyrant is surprise that Thanos lives.
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Tyrant says he's going to change that. Thanos says probably but he's proved to himself that he could stand up to Tyrant. Tyrant is furious that he dares to take his orb to which Thanos replies yes and leaves. Again, Thanos doesn't care about death. He had his victory and left. This is no different than when he fought WM Thor and left to grab that gun because he got bored.
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When did Galactus one shot punked Odin with ease? Book number please.

As for Tyrant, he left Tyrant alone because he did not want to fight at that time and neither did Tyrant. Tyrant even seeked to hide from Galactus longer. The only reason Galactus choose not to fight was because he did not want the collateral damage so he chose to leave Morg with Tyrant. He even tells Surfer that he'll handle things at the time of "his choosing". Tyrant knows Galactus would kick his ass. Even Galactus says that it's unthinkable that Tyrant would win. Galactus didn't want to fight at the time due to the casualties despite him being the superior being; Tyrant didn't want to fight because he need more time to prepare before such a confrontation but will fight here if he must. The guy had eons to prepare and still wanted to avoid fighting Galactus unless he has to. Lol
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Originally posted by zopzop
And what was he shown doing vs Seth exactly? Bearhugging? Irony is he was shown doing MORE vs Thanos than Seth.

Thanos was begging for his life before Galactus' assault. He wasn't even groaning in pain vs Odin.

Doing more what? Throwing asteroids at Thanos? WTF? He was wrecking galaxies as a side effect and shaking the multiverse. They're battle was across different planes of existence and felt space. How do you have it that he did more against Thanos?
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He doesn't care about his life. It doesn't matter. Did you read the book? He was there for a challenge.
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You mean like when Ganymede kicked him in the face and he groaned in pain? Ganymede kick > Thanos
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Go read the rest of the post above. He was there for a challenge and stole the orb to get Tyrant to fight him. That orb doesn't power him up. He used it to beat Tyrant around to show Tyrant that he can and would challenge Tyrant because is Thanos, the Mad Titan. Tyrant is the one that's astonished that Thanos could hold up to him. Where is there any indication on narration, Tyrant, or Thanos that the orb gave him any power ups? He's using it to simply mock Tyrant and beat him around with his trophy.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Doing more what? Throwing asteroids at Thanos? WTF? He was wrecking galaxies as a side effect and shaking the multiverse. They're battle was across different planes of existence and felt space. How do you have it that he did more against Thanos?
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He doesn't care about his life. It doesn't matter. Did you read the book? He was there for a challenge.
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You mean like when Ganymede kicked him in the face and he groaned in pain? Ganymede kick > Thanos
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Go read the rest of the post above. He was there for a challenge and stole the orb to get Tyrant to fight him. That orb doesn't power him up. He used it to beat Tyrant around to show Tyrant that he can and would challenge Tyrant because is Thanos, the Mad Titan. Tyrant is the one that's astonished that Thanos could hold up to him. Where is there any indication on narration, Tyrant, or Thanos that the orb gave him any power ups? He's using it to simply mock Tyrant and beat him around with his trophy.

And yet the the Orb's blasts and attacks made Tyrant flinch not Thanos' blasts. The Orb as another poster pointed out WAS NOT MORG'S POWER. He had already had his power returned before this.

When Tyrant was about to put his foot down, Thanos fled. Smiling that he had Tyrant's "prize", Tyrant opens up a portal and reveals that Thanos' "prize" was nothing. Tyrant had an Entire room full of power orbs. He was palming on big ass one.

PS, where on panel in that Seth/Odin fight are galaxies being destroyed? All I see is narrator hyperbole and a man bearhug. At least in the Thanos/Odin throw down we see Odin actually doing something ON PANEL.

PSS Ganymede is MILLIONS (BILLIONS) of years old, if she was around during the first Galactus/Tyrant throw down. Her "power staff" hit him in the face as she kicked him. We don't knwo what kind of abilities her staff has. Hell, Ganymede is OLDER than all the current batch of Earth Gods.

Originally posted by zopzop
And yet the the Orb's blasts and attacks made Tyrant flinch not Thanos' blasts. The Orb as another poster pointed out WAS NOT MORG'S POWER. He had already had his power returned before this.

That's funny because Thanos ask Tyrant's computer to find Morg's orb in the next book following Morg's restoration of power. Restoring Morg's power doesn't mean giving it all back.
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Tyrant already put his foot down and failed to put Thanos down. He threatened Thanos and demanded it back to which Thanos smiled and ignored him. That prize is everything because it symbolizes Thanos taking Tyrant's possession. It not being the greatest prize doesn't mean jack. Tyrant wanted Thanos to give him back that orb and Thanos gladly replied by using it to smack Tyrant's face around. The prize was surviving a conflict with Tyrant to which he did.



Lol. So basically FP Tyrant and Galactus' fight never destroyed galaxies either right? Because it's just hyperbole too. I mean it's Odin we're talking about, it's not like he's done this type of feat before...except against Forsung and Infinity. Oh and that Surtur guy who destroyed Beta Ray Bill's galaxy to forge the Twilight Sword, a weapon that was meant to prevent Odin from growing in size to access his full might to fight Surtur.

A fight in the realm of Asgard that can be seen even on Earth.
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Who says? When she was awaken, about a millenia had pasted. There's no indication she's millions of years old. The went into cryo because they had no purpose left. If anything, Galactus and Tyrant's war had only been a couple of millenia's before present time. And what does that have to do with anything. Being old means jack. Are you trying to argue that Ganymede's age means she's more powerful than Thanos or Morg? Her kick made him groan in pain.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
That's funny because Thanos ask Tyrant's computer to find Morg's orb in the next book following Morg's restoration of power. Restoring Morg's power doesn't mean giving it all back.
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So you're telling me a fraction of Morg's power, since he was restored, was doing more than Thanos himself blasting Tyrant? No one knows what's up with those Orbs. That's why Thanos stole one to study them.






Thanos TPED AWAY as Tyrant was about to stomp him. He NEVER tped away from Odin during their throw down. Thanos himself states, he's sure Tyrant would back up his claim if given a chance. Hence why he TPed away.



The Infinitus thing was RETCONNED in the Cosmos in Collision story arc in Quasar no?

Was it actually stated on panel that Surtur wrecked that galaxy? I find it hard to believe a guy that couldn't put down Ymir convincingly is tearing up a galaxy.



Yes. Your point? Asgard is POCKET dimension tied to Earth.




A) She was using HER frame of reference for time. How far away is her galaxy from ours? The farther away from us you go, the OLDER the object. So a millenia ago, HER TIME, is pretty fuggin' old.

B) Her STAFF caused him pain. We don't know what tech she's packing. Her race is ancient if they were around during the Tyrant/Galactus face off.

Originally posted by zopzop
So you're telling me a fraction of Morg's power, since he was restored, was doing more than Thanos himself blasting Tyrant? No one knows what's up with those Orbs. That's why Thanos stole one to study them.

Lol. The first assault? The orb was already in his right hand prior too that. You obviously don't know what's up with those orbs because you didn't pay close enough attention to the story. Morg's orb is separate from everybody else's orb. It's his orb that Thanos asked for and its' that orb that the got info from Tyrant's computer. Yeah, Thanos stole it to study and used his prize to beat Tyrant around, proving to Tyrant and himself that he could do so. It didn't amp him.
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He never teleported away because BRB intervened from the kicking Odin was going to give him further. He teleported away from Tyrant because he completed his challenge, which is to survive a fight with Tyrant. He did so and left with his prize. Thanos mocked Tyrant that he sure could back up his claim but that Thanos was going to take his prize. Tyrant questions Thanos' dare of taking what belong to Tyrant, to which Thanos replied I do and leaves. Tyrant didn't do anything about it. So sad.




It was retconned into Odin's darkside tapping into Infinity herself. And that Odin's goodside fought to stop it. In otherwords, the cosmos was shaken up as shown in the book because Odin's darkside tapped into the abstract's power.



Yes. And even shown on panel.
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Wrecking the cosmos.
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Accessible by means of teleportation from Earth. Their fight was on different planes of existence and reached through dimension barriers and can be seen and felt by those on Earth. That's the power level being used.



So either her foot/shoes has tech or it being billions of years old some makes her more power than Thanos right?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Lol. The first assault? The orb was already in his right hand prior too that. You obviously don't know what's up with those orbs because you didn't pay close enough attention to the story. Morg's orb is separate from everybody else's orb. It's his orb that Thanos asked for and its' that orb that the got info from Tyrant's computer. Yeah, Thanos stole it to study and used his prize to beat Tyrant around, proving to Tyrant and himself that he could do so. It didn't amp him.
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Thanos blasted him under his own power, Tyrant didn't even flinch. Thanos blasts him with the Orb, Tyrant groans in pain. Morg ins't on the level of power as either Thanos or Tyrant. Hell when Tyrant fought Morg, he downed him without breaking a sweat. Now you want me to believe a fraction of Morg's power that was in that Orb > Morg?





He never teleported away because he didn't fear Odin like he did Tyrant. Look at Thanos clothing, barely singed while fighting Odin all tore up while battling Tyrant. In the fight with Tyrant, take a look especially at the hand HOLDING the Orb. The glove is undamaged.




Excellent so it wasn't Odin's power at all. Good to know.



Again. I don't see Surtur wrecking a distant galaxy. If anything he was taking advantage of it's impending doom to forge his sword.

Did you ever stop and think : What would a Norse being be doing in a distant galaxy? Who is/was worshiping him there? Muspel is a pocket dimension connected to Earth.






This is very debatable. On other boards, I don't know if we're allowed to link to them, the vast majority doubt a galaxy was being wrecked. Let alone the cosmos.







Tied CLOSELY to Earth. Since the Gods draw power from their worshipers ON EARTH. When the Celestials punked Odin and crew, they threatened to cut off the links between their worlds and Earth and the Gods panicked. Earth and the pocket dimensions associated with the Earth Pantheon are closely linked together. So battles tend to spill over. Big deal. The highest level of powers that were concerned with the Seth/Odin slapfest was : Dr. Strange and the Silver Surfer. No Watchers, no Celestials, no Living Tribunal, nothing.



You're just being difficult now, you can CLEARLY see in the pic, HER STAFF WAS ALL UP IN HIS GRILL. We don't know what sort of tech she has access to. Her race is OLDER than the freaking current pantheon of gods on Earth.

whats so hard to bealive?
seth shaked the universe in his battle with odin surfer even paused and suprised by the level of power, if you call that hyperbole then galactus and tyrants fight was hyperbole also
surtur is also a galaxy buster ,ymir is roughly on par with that
odin held his own againts his dark half that was tapping into a fraction of infinity power

the point is, thanos doesnt have that much raw power he just has a great durability

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
whats so hard to bealive?
seth shaked the universe in his battle with odin surfer even paused and suprised by the level of power, if you call that hyperbole then galactus and tyrants fight was hyperbole also
surtur is also a galaxy buster ,ymir is roughly on par with that
odin held his own againts his dark half that was tapping into a fraction of infinity power

He (Surfer) was "floating high above the earth". He wasn't in some distant galaxy or off in another dimension. Everyone that "Felt the multiverse tremble" was conspicuously on Earth. No one higher up on the Cosmic Hierarchy than the Surfer even took notice of it.

See my posts on the Tiamut vs Galactus thread, I said that I believe Thanos was engaging in hyperbole about the Tyrant/Galactus fight. Galactus said that if he and Tyrant (even DP Tyrant) threw down, the universe would be laid to waste. Well they threw down and I didn't even see planets being shattered. Did you?

The Top 3 Skyfathers couldn't budge Arshiem, the Destroyer armor with Odin and all the Asgardians couldn't dent Arshiem. Hell the Destroyer vs Celestials fight didn't even rock the Earth. But you are trying to tell me Seth/Odin rocked the multiverse?

Seth bragged that "no power in the universe" could stop him. You telling me you believe that?




I'm not arguing this. In fact NO ONE is arguing the Odin/Thanos fight was anything but a durability feat for Thanos. Did Thanos even wince or groan in pain while taking brutal punishment from Odin? Refresh my memory because I think the answer is : no.

Originally posted by Bentley
Seth seems way more impressive. Based on what ? You have a habit of being wrong.

I cant believe this thread lasted this long....

Anyone with common f**king sense that read the fight between Odin and Thanos knows that Odin beat Thanos down...

Seth actually managed to harm Odin while Thanos couldnt do jack but get him face beat in; Seth kicks Thanos's teeth in 10/10...

Originally posted by zopzop
He (Surfer) was "floating high above the earth". He wasn't in some distant galaxy or off in another dimension. Everyone that "Felt the multiverse tremble" was conspicuously on Earth. No one higher up on the Cosmic Hierarchy than the Surfer even took notice of it.
no higher cosmic took notice of the galactus vs mephisto fight, no higher cosmic took notice of the galactus vs agamotto fight, etc thats not a good way to judge a fight.



Originally posted by zopzop
The Top 3 Skyfathers couldn't budge Arshiem, the Destroyer armor with Odin and all the Asgardians couldn't dent Arshiem. Hell the Destroyer vs Celestials fight didn't even rock the Earth. But you are trying to tell me Seth/Odin rocked the multiverse?
its safe to say the skyfathers were depowerd in that issue.
Why?
1. the combined blast of the three of them was only enough to shake a planet which doesnt even put there combined might at silver surfers level of power, and we know what odin can do to surfer


2. thor did much better than odin zeus and vishnu he was fighting celestials and tanking blast from them and even injuring them


3. thor was giving odin a hell of alot of trouble in that issue and odin had a hard time putting thor down

we can just call that comic bullshit, or just accept thor and silver surfer are more powerful than skyfathers

Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos blasted him under his own power, Tyrant didn't even flinch. Thanos blasts him with the Orb, Tyrant groans in pain. Morg ins't on the level of power as either Thanos or Tyrant. Hell when Tyrant fought Morg, he downed him without breaking a sweat. Now you want me to believe a fraction of Morg's power that was in that Orb > Morg?

No it wasn't. Actually, the orb is in his left hand (my mistake saying on the right) and on the next page he's blasting with his left hand. He was still using the orb in his first attack. So you're using every time Morg uses his power's, he's putting his entire power essence into each blast and not a fraction of it? Morg's orb is the prize because Morg, being the current servant of Galactus, is a symbolic value to Tyrant. The story center's around that. Nowhere does it say it's not Morg's orb. In fact, Thanos asked Tyrant's computer for the location of Morg's orb. Prove it's not Morg's orb. In fact, Thanos all seem to do was channel his power though the orb for blast and used it as a bludgeoning tool. He's got not amp and there's never been anything to confirm he had an amp. Essentially you're arguing he came their looking for Morg's orb and knew Morg's orb was going to amp him up enough to fight Tyrant. Except when he gets there he happens to fight an orb that's not Morg's and uses it to amp himself up to beat around Tyrant right? Then he goes to claim his prize and proclaim that he survived a conflict. No where does anyone make any indication the orb amped him but you want to claim that huh? Lol.



So he feared Tyrant? He mocks Tyrant and told him he didn't care about death because he's been there. Tyrant called him mad for challenging and Thanos replied he has been told that enough lately. Tyrant threatens him for trying to steal from him and Thanos simply that he does dare and takes his prize with him. What's there to fear for someone who's been to death's realm before? What's Tyrant going to do? He came there to survive a figh and did, so he left.



It was Odin who fought and his darkside that was tapping into Infinity. He beat his darkside tapping into one of the major aspect of the universe, good to know indeed.



WTF? He's the one that destroyed the burning galaxy. In another book, Odin even states that Surtur destroyed a galaxy to forge his sword. The Korbinites fleed their galaxy because Surtur had destroyed it. Even in the first page scan, the last panel is a picture of Beta Ray Bill before and after he got Stormbreaker.

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Lol. You do know that you can cross through into regular space from Asgard's realm right? But Earth is connected to the Norse's through means of teleportation. They're not next to each other.

Did you ever stop to read these books or even just pull up their bio?



That's funny because I could point to this board, CBR, and Herochat and say they don't doubt that at all.



Arishem threatened to cut their link off to Earth and set their realms on fire. Battles tend to spill over? What battle spilled over? You want to name a fight that did spill over like that? Thanos' fight with Odin? WTF? If that was a slapfest, I guess Odin was just bitchsmacking Thanos and there really was no fight because it was a stomping.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what ? You have a habit of being wrong.

You have the habit of thinking you're right ermm

Originally posted by Bentley
You have the habit of thinking you're right ermm

Trolls are gonna troll. It doesn't matter whether they're right or wrong. They troll because it's fun for them; that's why we call them trolls.

Originally posted by Bentley
You have the habit of thinking you're right ermm

Thats professional trolls for ya but like what White said, either way they are trolls. Pro trolls dont get banned because they are in the grey areas while noob trolls get banned right off the gun or shorty after.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
No it wasn't. Actually, the orb is in his left hand (my mistake saying on the right) and on the next page he's blasting with his left hand. He was still using the orb in his first attack. So you're using every time Morg uses his power's, he's putting his entire power essence into each blast and not a fraction of it? Morg's orb is the prize because Morg, being the current servant of Galactus, is a symbolic value to Tyrant. The story center's around that. Nowhere does it say it's not Morg's orb. In fact, Thanos asked Tyrant's computer for the location of Morg's orb. Prove it's not Morg's orb. In fact, Thanos all seem to do was channel his power though the orb for blast and used it as a bludgeoning tool. He's got not amp and there's never been anything to confirm he had an amp. Essentially you're arguing he came their looking for Morg's orb and knew Morg's orb was going to amp him up enough to fight Tyrant. Except when he gets there he happens to fight an orb that's not Morg's and uses it to amp himself up to beat around Tyrant right? Then he goes to claim his prize and proclaim that he survived a conflict. No where does anyone make any indication the orb amped him but you want to claim that huh? Lol.

You can tell it was the Orb, the artist even made it clear. After Tyrant literally FLOORED Thanos tearing apart his costume, the gloved hand holding the Orb is unaffected the attack. He used the Orb to blast Tyrant in the face causing him pain. Everytime he attacked Tyrant he did so through the Orb. He reached for it in a panic when it was blasted out of his hand. It's right there in the comic and now we're just arguing in circles.





Thanos fought Odin mocking him to his face too. Unlike Tyrant, Thanos never fled from Odin. And wasn't about to anythime soon. Look at the way Thanos looked after the encounter with both. His clothes were barely singed after the Odin/Thanos fight.




Yes, good to know the "galaxy busting" feat was his darkside tapping Infinity's power.




So he destroyed a galaxy but couldn't make Earth tremble in his fight with Odin and all Asgard? How does that make any sense?





Explain to me what a Norse being is doing in a far off galaxy that doesn't even acknowledge his existence and I'll shut up. When Asgard and Olympus fought, Odin and Zeus met and decided to stop the war. The explanation being that it didn't matter who "won", since their worshipers didn't acknowledge the other Pantheon as valid.




Uhm I got that info from CBR (Comic book resources?) and Herochat! That's why I found it dubious also.





Thanos isn't a mystical being associate with Earth, like Seth or Odin. Even during the fight Odin bragged that his power was divine/magical while Thanos' was based on science.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I cant believe this thread lasted this long....

Anyone with common f**king sense that read the fight between Odin and Thanos knows that Odin beat Thanos down...

Seth actually managed to harm Odin while Thanos couldnt do jack but get him face beat in; Seth kicks Thanos's teeth in 10/10...

Seth was fighting an Odin with AMNESIA. Once Odin got back into his full powers, Seth did NOTHING.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
no higher cosmic took notice of the galactus vs mephisto fight, no higher cosmic took notice of the galactus vs agamotto fight, etc thats not a good way to judge a fight.


No that's the perfect way to judge a fight. Because it let's us ignore hyperbole and get right to the heart of the matter. If beings on the level of Galactus and Agamotto thowing down don't register on the Cosmic scale then Odin/Seth weren't wrecking galaxies and shaking the multiverse.





That would make sense but later on in that very same issue Odin had 1000 years to plan and create the Destroyer and STILL failed against them! It was stated again by Thor in the Atlanstis Attacks Annual that his father and the rest of the gods are nothing compared to the Celestials.

And regarding Thor : They were toying with him in that issue. Do you really mean to tell me that if a Celestial had blasted Thor with an intention to kill him, he'd be anything but ashes? And Thor DID NOT injure them. At all. Where are you getting that from?

@zopzop
thor smashed exitars armor

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
@zopzop
thor smashed exitars armor

That didn't happen when during the original fight in Thor 300. But what does that prove? Destroyer/Odin slashed off a Celestial's arm. Jean/Phoenix blew off Arshiem's hand.

Opening up a small hole in Exitar's armor is sorta meh compared to that. Later Thor opened up a full "God blast" inside Exitar's "head" breaking his "skull". But obviously Exitar wasn't damaged severely at all. Just like the Odinsword and Jean incidents. It was cosmetic damage.

Originally posted by zopzop
You can tell it was the Orb, the artist even made it clear. After Tyrant literally FLOORED Thanos tearing apart his costume, the gloved hand holding the Orb is unaffected the attack. He used the Orb to blast Tyrant in the face causing him pain. Everytime he attacked Tyrant he did so through the Orb. He reached for it in a panic when it was blasted out of his hand. It's right there in the comic and now we're just arguing in circles.

Lol. You stick with your point on this and I'll stick with mine.



Yup, when Thanos can stand stop power tapped into Infinity enough that it's hand was crushing planets like grapes, Thanos' be on Odin's level.



It makes sense because they weren't fighting on different planes of existence the way Seth and Odin did.



WTF does that have to do with anything? Why should Surtur care about that? That's like the Dark Gods giving crap about if any other race worships them when they conquer or destroy them. Again, what does that have to do with anything? He destroyed a galaxy to forge his sword. He's a demon that sought to bring destruction. Why would he care about having worshipers?



What part is dubious? It's not like it's a one time feat.



WTF does having association to Earth do with them fighting on different planes of existence and felt across space? His cosmic powers is not on Odin's level of magic at all. Cosmic can do as much as magic; Thanos' level isn't on Odin and thus why he can't achieve things like Odin. A cosmic like a Cube being have fought and produced the same affects as Odin's fights and more. Thanos is on Odin's level at all. In fact, Odin merely restorted to simply blasting Thanos about and nothing more. If anything, that's one of Odin's weaker showings.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Yup, when Thanos can stand stop power tapped into Infinity enough that it's hand was crushing planets like grapes, Thanos' be on Odin's level.


Uhm he was tanking Odin's blasts in Asgard. He'll do just fine.




They were fighting in Asgard and nothing aside from some storm clouds in human form were visible on Earth. Why wasn't Odin/Surtur multiverse shaking, galaxy destroying, long dead star igniting like Odin/Seth?






It has everything to do with everything. When the Norse and Greco-Roman pantheons threw down, it didn't matter who won, because their worshipers on Earth wouldn't acknowledge the opposing pantheon.

They were limited in their scope and influence by their worshipers. Who/What was worshiping Surtur in the Korbinite galaxy? What was Surtur doing there? Why didn't it's native Gods stop him from destroying their worshipers?




It's dubious because beings with FAR greater power than Odin haven't busted galaxies. Let alone rocked the multiverse. That's why.




Thanos and crew took out Blood lusted Thor with Power Gem, broke through Asgard's defenses and pummeled it's defenders. In Odin's eyes, they were launching an assault on his kingdom so it's not like he was holding back or anything. He even summoned his spear to show he was serious and nothing galaxy busting went down. Hell Thanos' outfit was barely affected (even though they managed to destroy most of Asgard proper).

Originally posted by zopzop
No that's the perfect way to judge a fight. Because it let's us ignore hyperbole and get right to the heart of the matter. If beings on the level of Galactus and Agamotto thowing down don't register on the Cosmic scale then Odin/Seth weren't wrecking galaxies and shaking the multiverse.

Beings like Galactus and Agamotto were fighting dimensions removed from the 616 during the IW, the regular cosmics weren't there. Still, their fight was wrecking Agamotto's dimension and causing dimension collateral damage to other dimensions including Hoggoth and Oshtur who showed up to stop the fight. So yeah, cosmics did show up because of the scale of their fight.

So Odin and Seth were wrecking galaxies. Surtur did destroy a galaxy to forge his sword. Odin stopped his darkside self that was crushing worlds in the palm of his hand. His struggle with Forsung did crush planets as if they're ant hills while the heat left new burning suns.

Thanos' best feat was what again? He was lucky Starlin wrote that fight with Odin and had Odin resort to just blast's and throwing meteors. Remember when Thanos got knocked about by WM Thor and was knocking Thor about as well? Then resorted to the Force Block to hold Thor? Even under Starlin, at no time did Thanos even move Odin. That force block that held Thor from attacking Thanos again lasted a few second/minute against Odin.

Originally posted by zopzop
Uhm he was tanking Odin's blasts in Asgard. He'll do just fine.

Your definition of tanking huh?
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4668/quanchi0004ho.th.jpg



I just told you Odin and Seth fought on different planes of existence simaltenously. It even states in the scans.



lol. Because Surtur cares about what people thought. He sure gave a damn about those Korbinates when he destroyed their galaxy huh? And Seth gives a damn about what people thought too right? That's why he was going to destroy Asgard.



Hahaha? Who cares. Surtur isn't a god. He's an elemental demon. Ymir doesn't have worshipers either. What's your point? And not every galaxy have gods. Surtur destroyed a galaxy to forge his sword. Everyone knows this but you. How or why any god if any at all exist is a question you have to ask the writer.



Which beings are you refering too? Galactus and FP Tyrant have. Agamotto and Galactus have. Mephisto and Galactus have shook the universe when they fought in Hell. The Cube Beings blinded a Watch in another galaxy, the lunch of New Yorkers became alive and tried to eat them, and the laws of physics shatter.

You're just pissed that Odin's fought galaxy busters at his highest level while Thanos' best stunt was blast Galactus' out of his ship only to get his ass kicked by Galactus moments later.



Under Starlin, Thanos couldn't even move Odin one bit while Odin knocked Thanos on his ass on more than one occasion throughout the fight. Nothing was shattering planets because Thanos would get KTFO if Starlin deployed such writing. Thanos' high end isn't on par with Odin's high end. Let's not play around. Even Starlin knows this. He wrote Odin as best he could while making Thanos look decent. He can't have Odin shit all over his character now can he? This is the same guy that retconned all Thanos' lost into clones. He couldn't have Thanos get punked by an amped Thor y'know? Wouldn't look good for Thanos' resume.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I cant believe this thread lasted this long....

Anyone with common f**king sense that read the fight between Odin and Thanos knows that Odin beat Thanos down...

Seth actually managed to harm Odin while Thanos couldnt do jack but get him face beat in; Seth kicks Thanos's teeth in 10/10... Wrong. Thanos was taking it to Odin while Odin was in his proper mindset while he easily disposed of Seth while he just came to basically.

Originally posted by Bentley
You have the habit of thinking you're right ermm Why yes I do.

Originally posted by zopzop
Seth was fighting an Odin with AMNESIA. Once Odin got back into his full powers, Seth did NOTHING. Exactly. That's exactly what I stated and those who are right state. Those who hate Thanos an dwant Seth to win ignore these details while we don't.