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Joker vs Red Skull prep war who wins?

Red Skull has owned Doom every time they have played the prep, opportunity, betrayal game.

Do your math

Originally posted by Bentley
Red Skull has owned Doom every time they have played the prep, opportunity, betrayal game.

Do your math

I know that Dr Doom respects The Red Skull and it hard to earn Dooms respect.

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Bumping for good memories!

Red Skull gets to the point & kills Joker

Red Skull plays on a much bigger scale

Originally posted by tkitna
Red Skull plays on a much bigger scale joker is known to play with nuclear weapons and such things of that nature

and I thought that we were talking about hand to hand here. in that Joker wins.

Originally posted by complexbrother
and I thought that we were talking about hand to hand here. in that Joker wins.

Actually, the Joker would lose that also.

The Joker stole Mr Mxys powers. Not many people have stolen the powers of a cosmic being. He's ****ed with gods and goddesses too.

Originally posted by complexbrother
and I thought that we were talking about hand to hand here. in that Joker wins. No, not really.

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Joker stomps. Easily.

I could see Joker taking Prep if it plays it full up chaotic and unpredictable with his goal. And I like it that Skull has OUTSMARTED Der DOOMSTER!

Would love to see those comics.....but then the SKULL is an ACTUAL BAD Guy where Doom...Not Really.

Originally posted by panthergod
Joker stomps. Easily.

That's not happening. Red Skull has better prep showings and usually operates on a highier level than the Joker.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
I could see Joker taking Prep if it plays it full up chaotic and unpredictable with his goal. And I like it that Skull has OUTSMARTED Der DOOMSTER!

Would love to see those comics.....but then the SKULL is an ACTUAL BAD Guy where Doom...Not Really.

The craziness is overrated.

Joker's craziness is like a superpower, though.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Joker's craziness is like a superpower, though.

It has been shown to be like that sometimes but there are loads of showing to contradict it.

It's overrated.

Originally posted by Deadline
That's not happening. Red Skull has better prep showings and usually operates on a highier level than the Joker.

No he doesn't.




He's far more intelligent, and it isn't close.

Originally posted by panthergod
No he doesn't.




He's far more intelligent, and it isn't close.

You're just talking with nothing to back it up. Joker is a street level villain and yes he has been a cosmic threat before but Red Skull usually operates on a bigger threat scale than Joker. He's been a cosmic threat numerous of times it seems to me he's usually a global threat.

Joker wins. Even Batman thinks he's the best with prep.

I don't see any proof or examples here, just talking.

That's what Bruce said. And Batman is one of the best prep masters in comics. Something to do with being unpredictable or something. Plus, Joker has way more experience (Immortal under Synder).

Originally posted by Senor Cage
That's what Bruce said. And Batman is one of the best prep masters in comics. Something to do with being unpredictable or something. Plus, Joker has way more experience (Immortal under Synder).

I don't care what Batman said, Jokers showings don't prove it. Thor has more experience than Captain America doesn't make him a better fighter.

Emperor Joker and Last Laugh are comparable if nor superior to anything Red Skull has ever done.

Originally posted by Deadline
I don't care what Batman said, Jokers showings don't prove it. Thor has more experience than Captain America doesn't make him a better fighter.

Of course they do. Have you read Snyder's run? Joker fooled Batman multiple times, to the point where he knew what Batman was going to do before he even thought of it. He also fooled Batman for MONTHS on end, as a different person, and he wasn't even aware.

Riddler also admitted that it would be hard to figure out Jokers plans. Riddler would destroy Skull when it comes to pure intelligence.

In all honesty, Red Skull would just shoot the Riddler and be done with him.

Originally posted by Bentley
In all honesty, Red Skull would just shoot the Riddler and be done with him.

A no prep battle, yeah, but the riddlee would run circles around him, prep and intelligence wise. He was smart enough to reverse engineer New God tech.

No

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No

Kaga o midasanaide kudasai.

Bueno, Bueno.

Originally posted by panthergod
Emperor Joker and Last Laugh are comparable if nor superior to anything Red Skull has ever done.

I like how you've conceded that these feats might be comparable and not that it's not even close. Well Red Skull has more feats like that than Joker has. I think he's manipulated the cosmic cube...like how many times is this now? Five times? When you start messing around with the cosmic cube you are potentially a universal threat. Wasn't there a marvel event where Red Skull stole Professor X's power and became an Onslaught level entity? I hate Secret Empire but yet again it's the Red Skull creating events where all the Marvel heroes need to join toegether to stop a threat he created. Red Skull has taken control of Galactus's ship.


Originally posted by Senor Cage
Of course they do. Have you read Snyder's run? Joker fooled Batman multiple times, to the point where he knew what Batman was going to do before he even thought of it. He also fooled Batman for MONTHS on end, as a different person, and he wasn't even aware.

Yea I have read it actually, wasn't really feeling it. So what and Batman has fooled Joker many times. I could argue that Cap is superior tactically to Batman


Originally posted by Senor Cage

Riddler also admitted that it would be hard to figure out Jokers plans. Riddler would destroy Skull when it comes to pure intelligence.

Noboidy cares, this isn't a Riddler thread. Joker still loses the majority, when The Joker gets better feats then he wins.

Joker does have the better feats and he does win. What has Red Skull done that puts him over Batsy or Joker? What does Cap have that makes him better, prep wise?

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Joker does have the better feats and he does win. What has Red Skull done that puts him over Batsy or Joker?

Have you not been reading this thread I just gave some examples and I gave more impressive examples than you did. Give more and better feats. Also as I stated already Red Skull operates on a highier level, he's not a street level villain.

Originally posted by Senor Cage

What does Cap have that makes him better, prep wise?

Because he's been the leader of The Avengers for years. Lead the heroes in Secret Wars, Infinity Wars and Civil War When the heroes get together Cap leads them because of his tactical skills. Sure Batman can lead the Bat family but if he were that good he would be the leader of the JLA or something.

Where are these better prep showings? I'm not feeling it.

And Cap leading a team of Avengers doens't mean he's a better tactician or prep master than Bruce. That's just laughable.

Some intelligence/prep feats:

Managed to remain hidden from Batman for years. If Joker doesn't want to be found, he won't.

https://i.imgur.com/pvJxzIK.jpg

Even the Riddler cannot understand his plans.

https://i.imgur.com/h8vYC8O.jpg

He managed to hide from Batman for nearly a year as Eric Border, at arkham. Batman even interacted with him regularly

https://i.imgur.com/J0kpQRU.jpg

Knows what Batman's going to do before he even does it.

https://i.imgur.com/1XxnDL2.jpg

Defeats Ra's Al Ghul in a game of chess, gaining his respect.

https://i.imgur.com/njJMJkJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PKlkVEa.jpg

****s with the Spectre

https://i.imgur.com/ppzjxyu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vziZ0Ea.jpg

Outwits Mxy, and steals his power.

https://i.imgur.com/R4TC46v.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XLgJKyn.jpg

****s with the Spectre AGAIN:


Spectrum (Hal Jordan) is trying to put an end to the global rule of the clown, who managed to infect almost every villain on Earth with his toxin and wreak havoc throughout the world. But the Spirit of Retribution fails again. Having intruded into the mind of the Joker, Spectre was forced to retreat, unable to withstand such insanity. And if that, here is the most common Joker, without any strength.

https://i.imgur.com/4IidAJG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nODwAvM.jpg

If I wait 3 days to reply, those images won't exist.

Sometimes he deletes them even sooner.

@Prep, you don't want to keep your links active, then you can post the ones from comicvine instead, etc...

Gotta love that the Riddler scan you ride so much doesn't even mean what you want it to mean.

He says "I know you well, so I can probably guess what you want", then he does figure it out but he misses the point of it. He saw everything there was to see and then Joker aknowledged it "it is not for you to understand". So even by that scan Riddler > Joker.

But he's still not in the thread.

i'd take skull. and he would totally just shoot riddler.

Originally posted by Bentley
Gotta love that the Riddler scan you ride so much doesn't even mean what you want it to mean.

He says "I know you well, so I can probably guess what you want", then he does figure it out but he misses the point of it. He saw everything there was to see and then Joker aknowledged it "it is not for you to understand". So even by that scan Riddler > Joker.

But he's still not in the thread.

Im just listing feats. Batman is superior to both skull and riddler, and joker has given Batman more problems.

Originally posted by leonidas
i'd take skull. and he would totally just shoot riddler. What if he tried to read his mind though?

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Im just listing feats. Batman is superior to both skull and riddler, and joker has given Batman more problems.

I agree that Red Skull should clash with Bruce more often

Originally posted by Bentley
I agree that Red Skull should clash with Bruce more often

Skull wouldn't know what to do.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
What if he tried to read his mind though?

if skull tried to read crazy brain's mind? i think skull would be...mostly fine tbh, or he'd at least be able to recover a lot quicker than most. skull himself is phuking crazy. if charley tried it, he'd be phucked but despite having the brain skull has been able to keep his own personality. has that ever been explained, btw? skull also has access to just...way more stuff than joker does. i see him as superior in pretty much every way.

Originally posted by leonidas
if skull tried to read crazy brain's mind? i think skull would be...mostly fine tbh, or he'd at least be able to recover a lot quicker than most. skull himself is phuking crazy. if charley tried it, he'd be phucked but despite having the brain skull has been able to keep his own personality. has that ever been explained, btw? skull also has access to just...way more stuff than joker does. i see him as superior in pretty much every way.

The Spectre failed to get in Joker's mind twice. Not to mention that Joker has access to some pretty crazy forces now, that would put most of Red Skull's current gear, resources to shame.

In terms of planning and intelligence, Joker is superior. When has Red Skull stumped someone on Batman's level, routinely? I'm not seeing these crazy feats from Red Skull here.

I wonder what crazy force Joker will get.

https://i.imgur.com/A2DnHJu.jpg

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Im just listing feats. Batman is superior to both skull and riddler, and joker has given Batman more problems.

http://i16.tinypic.com/67hx8jl.jpg

Originally posted by tkitna
http://i16.tinypic.com/67hx8jl.jpg



Nice. Joker is a bullet dodger.

https://i.imgur.com/o0Nsv12.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mwCFgcV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3M0EaRd.jpg

I wonder what a Schweinhundt is

I never got why Red Skull was considered a bad guy in comics, certainly not Joker levels of bad.

Skull is more Lawful Evil as opposed to the Joker's Chaotic Evil.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I never got why Red Skull was considered a bad guy in comics, certainly not Joker levels of bad.

http://oi3.tinypic.com/4tpbazq.jpg

Joker outwits Luthor, smartest on DC's world and has a higher amount of resources than either of the two.

https://i.imgur.com/R5sk9QT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NqxeSw8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2s1fojK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pmuDIKq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aGfBQ89.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YGaibrt.jpg

Originally posted by tkitna
http://oi3.tinypic.com/4tpbazq.jpg
And?

Joker having the better feats? People like to say Skull has more resources, but Joker outsmarted both Batman and Luthor (Who have superior resources to Skull).

Originally posted by tkitna
http://oi3.tinypic.com/4tpbazq.jpg

Originally posted by gauntlet o doom
Skull is more Lawful Evil as opposed to the Joker's Chaotic Evil.

VERY chaotic.

https://i.imgur.com/GP3BoF6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/j5u5xqW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QqC6Ya0.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/40/1489913-01_copy.png

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/357/933/276.png

Joker should honestly win any prep battle against the Red Skull.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
And?

If you cant understand the context of the scan in reference to the quote then no amount of explanation will help you.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/357/933/276.png

Skull seemed real concerned there.

Joker's prep is insane, as shown this week. He stomps.