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No powers for either duo.

CM & BA have the average strength and durability for men of their frame. They can bench press 300 lbs. with effort.

No gadgets or whatnot for the female duo.

Arena style combat. Who wins?

The Girls. Easily.

Originally posted by fangirl101
The Girls. Easily.
Yeah, why not? Girls, 10/10.

But the men are stronger and more durable....

Without his powers, isn't CM a pre-teen?

Either way, the girls take it 10/10.

Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
Without his powers, isn't CM a pre-teen?

Either way, the girls take it 10/10.

No in this battle, CM and BA will be in their transformed states minus the god-given powers and lightening.

Adam's got some good skills. Billy, not so much...without his powers, that is.

Team two.

This is such a petty thread.

On one hand, we've got an a-list ma who can likely beat or stalemate Batman, along with a high b ma who's currently getting a major push vs two men who might as well be the musclemen thugs Robin beats with influenza.

Small thread Draco.

Originally posted by UniOmni
This is such a petty thread.

On one hand, we've got an a-list ma who can likely beat or stalemate Batman, along with a high b ma who's currently getting a major push vs two men who might as well be the musclemen thugs Robin beats with influenza.

Small thread Draco.

It' just proves that there is something funny going on in the other thread. It's a wise thread.

No it's not fannie mae.

Top tiers for the most part use no discernible skill, and those that do, it's rudimentary at best.

Thor is a skilled warrior acclaimed by the asgardians in lore, but should he fight Daredevil as a normal man, he gets his ass whooped.

The same thing applies here.

We've got two muscled men who know how to punch vs two specially trained and studied ma.

It's not wise, it's petty.

Originally posted by UniOmni
No it's not fannie mae.

Top tiers for the most part use no discernible skill, and those that do, it's rudimentary at best.

Thor is a skilled warrior acclaimed by the asgardians in lore, but should he fight Daredevil as a normal man, he gets his ass whooped.

The same thing applies here.

We've got two muscled men who know how to punch vs two specially trained and studied ma.

It's not wise, it's petty.

Wondy is uses skill all of the time. So she would be a herald level being who does use her skills.

WW is top tier, but nowhere near herald class.

Originally posted by UniOmni
WW is top tier, but nowhere near herald class.
That makes no sense. The Herald Tier is all herald Class. You telling me a Woman who can help tow the earth, has the best shield in comics, can race into the speed force on her own isn't herald class? That makes NO sense what so ever.