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Who wins?

Hal

Spectre >>>>>>>> Darkseid

Darkseid. Even this newer Spectre couldn't do anything to Libra a servant to DS. DS seems VERY important to the multiverse. He's the god of evil. Evil never dies.

DS presence alone causes the multiverse and bleed to get ****ed up.

DS pulls The Presence's power out of Spectre FTW.

Hal Spectre already tried taking pre FC DS out and it didn't work. It would be a stalemate because DS is the dark side of the Source.

If it's a question of power alone Spectre is above DS.

But DS with the justification of the ALE is above Spectre and any sentient being regardless of their nature with the possible exceptions of Presence, the Source entity (maybe) et al.

DS already stalemated the Source once. He seems more powerful in FC. Why wouldn't he be able to defeat the Source?

You do know the sources power dwarfes the multiverse right....a fraction of the source gives a person control over all of dcs main multiverse.

Originally posted by Enyalus
DS already stalemated the Source once. He seems more powerful in FC. Why wouldn't he be able to defeat the Source?

I say maybe because the Source hasn't been mentioned or referenced in FC. He could take the Source, but it still a bit of a question mark with FC (one that will be answered one way or another at the end).

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
You do know the sources power dwarfes the multiverse right....a fraction of the source gives a person control over all of dcs main multiverse.

Yeah, I knew that. We weren't really talking about mutiverses, but okay.

We are since you said fc darkseid seems more powerful...when the only thing fc darkseid did was affect the multiverse,you were implying that>source when its nothing compared to the source,it seems that no one really comprehends how strong soulfire darkseid was to be able to stalemate a complete source.

Source is crap

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
We are since you said fc darkseid seems more powerful...when the only thing fc darkseid did was affect the multiverse,you were implying that>source when its nothing compared to the source,it seems that no one really comprehends how strong soulfire darkseid was to be able to stalemate a complete source.

Meh, cool with me. So far I much prefer DOTNG (and by consequence Soulfire) Darkseid to FC Darkseid, anyway. Point conceded.

Originally posted by Mindset
Source is crap
So crap that a fraction of his power can make a person god over the mainstream dc universe.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
So crap that a fraction of his power can make a person god over the mainstream dc universe. I guess so, because the Source is crap

Originally posted by Mindset
I guess so, because the Source is crap

Considering that 'person' was The Spectre and the 'becoming God' thing was really just omnipresence.

Hopefully we get some more feats for Darkseid in Final Crisis.

Originally posted by cloud102
Hopefully we get some more feats for Darkseid in Final Crisis.
Not the same Darkseid.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Considering that 'person' was The Spectre and the 'becoming God' thing was really just omnipresence.
The worlogog gives any person who uses it unlimited power over all mainstream dc creation,thats a fraction of the sources power.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Not the same Darkseid.

Still DS, just from the 5th World.

Hal in the end would take it. DS never stalemated The Source, it was playing along the whole time to get him to say what he was doing. DS 'did' last longer then anyone and showed major feats battling The Source, that is incredible.

The Source jobs more than Hal

Originally posted by vlaaad12345

The worlogog gives any person who uses it unlimited power
over all mainstream dc creation,

thats a fraction of the sources power.
Where is this depicted on panel?

Originally posted by Allankles
Hal Spectre already tried taking pre FC DS out and it didn't work. It would be a stalemate because DS is the dark side of the Source.

If it's a question of power alone Spectre is above DS.

But DS with the justification of the ALE is above Spectre and any sentient being regardless of their nature with the possible exceptions of Presence, the Source entity (maybe) et al. You dont have to kill Ds to beat him in a thread. Spectre oneshotted him. Just like when you kill Doomsday you dont terminate his existence,but instead beat him in the thread. You try so hard to break the rules in favor of Seid.