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While my gut instinct tells me to be against it, as people should be responsible for moving/taking care of their own finances, that title is misleading and of kneejerk caliber.

In the opening two paragraphs, it says it would convert them into other accounts, which then would be managed by the SSA. This would be in an effort to plug the ever bleeding hole that the economy has on people's current retirement plans. Not "Tha Gob'ment is taking our monies, ma!"

Obama gets elected and KR suddenly is a research machine.

Where was this earlier?

Here it's really hard to get amo and also I believe you must pay 500 to get your gun and many are hard to get now.

Originally posted by chithappens
Obama gets elected and KR suddenly is a research machine.

Where was this earlier?

The Repub/Conserv machine is on full standing to take anything, even a hint of a rumor and spin it into a negative about Obama and the coming four years. The "I TOLD YOU SO!" has begun and the guy has yet to be inaugurated or make a single executive decision.

Get used to it, it will be like this the next four years.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Here it's really hard to get amo and also I believe you must pay 500 to get your gun and many are hard to get now.

Kidrock has yet to make the "Clinton took away our guns in '94; Obama is going to be ten times worse about gunlaws!" thread.

So WTF are you talking about guns and ammo in here?

Originally posted by Robtard
So WTF are you talking about guns and ammo in here? because I want too.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
because I want too.

Show me your anus; here's a dancing banana. <--- banana that is dancing

Originally posted by Robtard
While my gut instinct tells me to be against it, as people should be responsible for moving/taking care of their own finances, that title is misleading and of kneejerk caliber.

In the opening two paragraphs, it says it would convert them into other accounts, which then would be managed by the SSA. This would be in an effort to plug the ever bleeding hole that the economy has on people's current retirement plans. Not "Tha Gob'ment is taking our monies, ma!"


How is the title misleading? The government wants to confiscate your IRA's and 401k's and manage the money.

And can anyone read why the Democrats want to take your money, managed by you, and put it in their hands? Anyone see any reasons in the article? From what I got was "things are unfair for the poor" and money will be taken and redistributed to accounts for the poor while the rich earn less of a percentage.

Unless someone sees something else.

Yet the Republicans claim to want to help the poor but don't want to "spread the wealth."

It's insulting. Just stop.

Originally posted by chithappens
Yet the Republicans claim to want to help the poor but don't want to "spread the wealth."

It's insulting. Just stop.

Yeah, because there are no other ways to help the poor except give them a check from the rich. Stupid them for actually trying to help the poor become somewhat productive. Who do they think they are?

Originally posted by KidRock
How is the title misleading? The government wants to confiscate your IRA's and 401k's and manage the money.

And can anyone read why the Democrats want to take your money, managed by you, and put it in their hands? Anyone see any reasons in the article? From what I got was "things are unfair for the poor" and money will be taken and redistributed to accounts for the poor while the rich earn less of a percentage.

Unless someone sees something else.

The writer used "confiscate" so a knee-jerk reaction would initially be set up. They're not taking it away and not giving it back, more like "reinvest."

Like I said, my guy instinct tells me it's not a good thing. Less government intrusion in our lives, not more, imo. If the government wants to set up optional programs and do this for people, sure. They shouldn't just do it in an attempt to hold our ignorant little hands.

Originally posted by KidRock
Yeah, because there are no other ways to help the poor except give them a check from the rich. Stupid them for actually trying to help the poor become somewhat productive. Who do they think they are?

In the case of No Child Left Behind, a school that is failing has money taken away.

A failing school has its funds taken away meaning less instruments, books, and extracurricular activities.

Break it down for me. What am I forgetting?

Originally posted by chithappens
In the case of No Child Left Behind, a school that is failing has money taken away.

A failing school has its funds taken away meaning less instruments, books, and extracurricular activities.

Break it down for me. What am I forgetting?

But No Child Left Behind actually encourages work and rewards those who succeed..not fail, which is my point. While certain other groups see helping the poor as "give them more money, not opportunity".

Seems to not take into account certain social implications.

Originally posted by KidRock
But No Child Left Behind actually encourages work and rewards those who succeed..not fail, which is my point. While certain other groups see helping the poor as "give them more money, not opportunity".

Do we take makeup away from ugly women? Would that be "fair?"

Originally posted by chithappens
Do we take makeup away from ugly women? Would that be "fair?"

Take 30 minutes and come up with something better then that.

How the hell can someone succeed if you take away what they need to succeed in the first place?

I'm done. You are an idiot.

Originally posted by chithappens
How the hell can someone succeed if you take away what they need to succeed in the first place?

They are given what they need to succeed in the first place..if they fail, why should we continue giving more money that is obviously doing nothing? It would be the states job to ensure the schools do well.

Originally posted by chithappens

I'm done. You are an idiot.

Says the genius using ugly women and make up as an analogy for NCLB..goodbye.

Back on topic.

Originally posted by KidRock
Back on topic.

lol @ the republican making so many threads since the McCain-Palin lose.

Originally posted by Ahsoka Tano
lol @ the republican making so many threads since the McCain-Palin lose.

This is a forum, what else am I suppose to do?

Originally posted by KidRock
This is a forum, what else am I suppose to do?

I agree, I'm just asking you to except the fate we Americans have been dealt. I voted for nobama. Unfortunately it didn't pan out.

Change is always definite. Clinton ruled for a horrific 8 years and look what happened. Hopefully it'll just be 4 more years and this "man" will be done.

Originally posted by Ahsoka Tano
Clinton ruled for a horrific 8 years and look what happened.
I think I missed the horrific part...

Originally posted by Quark_666
I think I missed the horrific part...

Lucky you. Cigar anyone?

Originally posted by Ahsoka Tano
Lucky you. Cigar anyone?

Is the Monica thing supposed to be what defines Clinton's presidential term? Because I'm having a hard time imagining the Americans suffering much because of that.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Is the Monica thing supposed to be what defines Clinton's presidential term? Because I'm having a hard time imagining the Americans suffering much because of that.

lol It was just a reference to his loyalty to his wonderful wife tis all. Shouldn't have takin' it as you did. (as your reply)

I just find his foreign policies like I find my toilet paper. Cheap, see thru and made of shit.

And efficent, is that what you mean?

Because... America's standing in itself and around the world was at one of it's best during his administration.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
And efficent, is that what you mean?

Because... America's standing in itself and around the world was at one of it's best during his administration.

Hahahah. Can you tell me what happened on September 11, 2001. Because America was really standing in itself and around the world 8 months after his departure. Or would you like to blame that fully on W. since he was in term at that time?

Originally posted by KidRock
This is a forum, what else am I suppose to do?

Actually reading the link before you start a topic on it might help a lot.

Originally posted by Devil King
Actually reading the link before you start a topic on it might help a lot.

Yeah, I didnt read the article..yet the title of the thread is the header of the article.

You

http://regmedia.co.uk/2008/02/20/football_fail.jpg


as usual.

Originally posted by KidRock
Yeah, I didnt read the article..yet the title of the thread is the header of the article.

You

http://regmedia.co.uk/2008/02/20/football_fail.jpg


as usual.

Duh, the title of the thread is named after the only part of the article you read!

Originally posted by Devil King
Duh, the title of the thread is named after the only part of the article you read!

First I should try reading the link, now I should try reading past the title.

Think before you speak please.

Originally posted by KidRock
First I should try reading the link, now I should try reading past the title.

Think before you speak please.

Originally posted by Devil King


Fail 1) stating I didn't even click the link

Fail 2) stating I didn't read past the title

Fail 3) trolling the thread. Cut your loses old man, you're gonna miss the early bird special if you dont get your nap in.

Back on topic:

Anyone believe hussein wont sign off on this?

Originally posted by KidRock
Fail 1) stating I didn't even click the link

Fail 2) stating I didn't read past the title

Fail 3) trolling the thread. Cut your loses old man, you're gonna miss the early bird special if you dont get your nap in.

Back on topic:

Anyone believe hussein wont sign off on this?

Fail 1: never said you didn't click on it, I said you didn't read it or even consider the person who wrote it, much less understand it.

Fail 2: you're the one that said that your understanding of the article was apparent in that you named it after the title and then pointed out the bigger print title of the article was clear evidence that you did while ignoring that the verbatim title of the thread is excatly what you named it.

Fail 3: Calling it trolling when you've already said that the point of participating in an on-line forum is to state your opinion, even if it's absurd and ill-informed.

Back on topic: Anyone believe that Palin even knows where the country of North Carolina is?

Originally posted by Devil King
Back on topic: Anyone believe that Palin even knows where the country of North Carolina is?

That made me lol.

What should make you laugh is that not one single republican law-maker is quoted anywhere in the article as a show of their support for the little guy in defense against this huge shift towards socialism where the rich pay the bills encured by the poor. In a time where the republicans have had their asses handed to them, they would be all over this if there were a single negative associated with this proposition.

OBAMA SUCKS

I'll pay the taxes and the penalties and cancel/cash out my 401k before I'll let the government get it.

turning this money over to be managed by the Social Security Administration would be very bad. Seeing how it will just go into the general fund along with all the other SSA money.

These Dems clearly think we are stupid. A quote from the article.

"All workers would have 5 percent of their annual pay deducted from their paychecks and deposited to the GRA. They would still be paying Social Security and Medicare taxes, as would the employers. The GRA contribution would be shared equally by the worker and the employee. Employers no longer would be able to write off their contributions. Any capital gains would be taxable year-on-year."

This is just a plan to put more money in government coffers in return for a government guaranteed IOU. Also when you die you can heir your 401k to your family. you can't do that with Social Security.

Here it is 4 days after the election and I'm already sleeping better knowing that I didn't vote for Democrat.

Originally posted by Quark_666
I think I missed the horrific part...

Good thing you didn't live in Sudan where Clinton bombed an Aspirin factory and claimed it produced biological weapons.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Good thing you didn't live in Sudan where Clinton bombed an Aspirin factory and claimed it produced biological weapons. New concern finally!!

But honestly? the day I believe you are better informed then the President of the United States will probably never come.

Originally posted by Devil King
Fail 1: never said you didn't click on it, I said you didn't read it or even consider the person who wrote it, much less understand it.

Fail 2: you're the one that said that your understanding of the article was apparent in that you named it after the title and then pointed out the bigger print title of the article was clear evidence that you did while ignoring that the verbatim title of the thread is excatly what you named it.

Fail 3: Calling it trolling when you've already said that the point of participating in an on-line forum is to state your opinion, even if it's absurd and ill-informed.

Back on topic: Anyone believe that Palin even knows where the country of North Carolina is?

How liberal of you..take a topic that is discussing Democrats and derail it into a completely pointless conversation. Nancy Pelosi would be proud.

Originally posted by Hunkajunk
These Dems clearly think we are stupid. A quote from the article.

"All workers would have 5 percent of their annual pay deducted from their paychecks and deposited to the GRA. They would still be paying Social Security and Medicare taxes, as would the employers. The GRA contribution would be shared equally by the worker and the employee. Employers no longer would be able to write off their contributions. Any capital gains would be taxable year-on-year."

This is just a plan to put more money in government coffers in return for a government guaranteed IOU. Also when you die you can heir your 401k to your family. you can't do that with Social Security.

Here it is 4 days after the election and I'm already sleeping better knowing that I didn't vote for Democrat.

Yep, just another way for them to get their hands on your money and do what they want with it. Even when you die they are making sure they get all the can.

Originally posted by Robtard
The Repub/Conserv machine is on full standing to take anything, even a hint of a rumor and spin it into a negative about Obama and the coming four years. The "I TOLD YOU SO!" has begun and the guy has yet to be inaugurated or make a single executive decision.

Get used to it, it will be like this the next four years.

This is always how it is. Obama deserves the same respect from the Republicans that the Democrats have given every Republican President since Nixon. It's just one of the numerous reasons political parties need to be abolished.

Originally posted by Ahsoka Tano
Hahahah. Can you tell me what happened on September 11, 2001.

Last time I checked, the actions of an insane man and his organization does not represent "our standing among the rest of the world".

Crymore.