Dr. Strange vs. Thor

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shokosugi
Dr. Strange vs. Thor at their strongest with 10 minutes prep!

Heres why i think Dr. Strange wins this.

Eye of Agamotto
invoke Zom (ignore the horrible WWH writing)
invoke Dormammu
the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak
and more!

Harbinger
Classic Strange should win, IMO.

Dark-Jaxx
Thor at his strongest is Rune King Thor.

shokosugi
Dr. Strange >> Rune King Thor

Enyalus
Originally posted by shokosugi
Dr. Strange vs. Thor at their strongest with 10 minutes prep!

Heres why i think Dr. Strange wins this.

Eye of Agamotto
invoke Zom (ignore the horrible WWH writing)
invoke Dormammu
the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak
and more!

Would he be able to invoke Dormammu and control him? Zom gave him hell during WWH. (I know you told me to ignore it, but...)

AlmightyKfish
Originally posted by Enyalus
Would he be able to invoke Dormammu and control him? Zom gave him hell during WWH. (I know you told me to ignore it, but...)

He can't use dormammu like that, but he has a way to draw power from the dark dimension.

shokosugi
Assume he can use all his powers perfectly (invoke Zom and Dormammu, etc.).

Enyalus
Dr. Strange pretty easily, then.

Red Hulk
All in 10 minutes!!!

...




RKT stomps. A fraction of Zom's strength evidently isn't that powerful, and Dormammu (at full power) is like an equal to Odin.
Or, you could have Thorternity... shifty

AlmightyKfish
Nope. Dormammu >> Odin.

Dormammu created Satannish, who's equal to Mephisto, who's at least = Odin.


Dormammu's also been stated to be greater than the Lord's Of Hell. (Mephisto, Satannish, etc all of which are skyfather level)

Priest
Too bad Odin stalemated Dormmy.

The Great Galen
That wasn't Dom at his peak, strange easily takes this.

Red Hulk
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Nope. Dormammu >> Odin.

Dormammu created Satannish, who's equal to Mephisto, who's at least = Odin.


Dormammu's also been stated to be greater than the Lord's Of Hell. (Mephisto, Satannish, etc all of which are skyfather level) Didn't Dormammu only manipulate what was already there, and didn't Mephisto kill Satannish?

Not to mention that Mephisto isn't equal to Odin...

And the only time they were really portrayed together in things of power, they were alluded to as equal (Dorm, and Odin).

AlmightyKfish
Originally posted by Red Hulk
Didn't Dormammu only manipulate what was already there, and didn't Mephisto kill Satannish?

Not to mention that Mephisto isn't equal to Odin...

And the only time they were really portrayed together in things of power, they were alluded to as equal (Dorm, and Odin).

That was chess match wasn't it? (Dorm vs Odin). Anyway, Dormammu's feats put him > Odin. Challenging Eternity twice etc.

Dormammu is reffered to as Satannish's father, so he had a major role in hsi creation. Don't think Mephisto killed Sat, not sure. Daemon Hellstrom took Satannish's place or something before Mephisto beat him and won back most of hell.

Not really sure...

Red Hulk
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
That was chess match wasn't it? (Dorm vs Odin). Anyway, Dormammu's feats put him > Odin. Challenging Eternity twice etc.

Dormammu is reffered to as Satannish's father, so he had a major role in hsi creation. Don't think Mephisto killed Sat, not sure. Daemon Hellstrom took Satannish's place or something before Mephisto beat him and won back most of hell.

Not really sure... Ya.
I doubt it. Besides, you can challenge anyone, but what really matters is how well you did.
And even then, you have to factor in average showings.

All of the hell lords were evolved from the same evil (after Atum was running through the Elder Gods). In Doc Strange SS #8 they explain this, however Dorm only guided Satannish through the process, and it really doesn't matter, unless Satannish was destined to be a pussy, and Dorm powered him up to around Meph's level.
Apparently he destroyed him, but I'm looking for a possible issue.

Bada's Palin
RKT.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Red Hulk
Ya.
I doubt it. Besides, you can challenge anyone, but what really matters is how well you did.
And even then, you have to factor in average showings.

All of the hell lords were evolved from the same evil (after Atum was running through the Elder Gods). In Doc Strange SS #8 they explain this, however Dorm only guided Satannish through the process, and it really doesn't matter, unless Satannish was destined to be a pussy, and Dorm powered him up to around Meph's level.
Apparently he destroyed him, but I'm looking for a possible issue. mephisto punked satannish many times. i remember in the issue where mockingbird was murdered by mephisto, he only did it after the avengers were trying to escape satonnish's realm after meph stomped that ass.

Red Hulk
Originally posted by psycho gundam
mephisto punked satannish many times. i remember in the issue where mockingbird was murdered by mephisto, he only did it after the avengers were trying to escape satonnish's realm after meph stomped that ass. Ya, WCA 100, but I'm looking for where he killed him.

complexbrother
Thor deals with the ultimate sorcerer Loki on a regular basis. he wins.

http://alankistler.squarespace.com/storage/thor/Loki%20Vs%20Thor%202.jpg

The Great Galen
Strange>Loki

shokosugi
Dr. Strange kills Thor in this.


Zom > Dormammu > Mephisto > Loki

Dr. Strange can:

invoke Zom
invoke Dormammu
and let's not forget the Eye of Agamotto
and the Crimson Bands of Cytorrak
AND MORE!

all of which is >> than Thor

Zom >>>> Odin

Dormammu >= Odin

Agamotto >= Odin

Cytorrak = Odin

ultimatethor
Originally posted by shokosugi
Dr. Strange kills Thor in this.


Zom > Dormammu > Mephisto > Loki

Dr. Strange can:

invoke Zom
invoke Dormammu
and let's not forget the Eye of Agamotto
and the Crimson Bands of Cytorrak
AND MORE!

all of which is >> than Thor

Zom >>>> Odin

Dormammu >= Odin

Agamotto >= Odin

Cytorrak = Odin

IMO Agamoto is far above odin.

shokosugi
Yeah, Agamotto is >>> Odin...actually Cytorrak is also far above Odin.

Red Hulk
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Strange>Loki They fought before. Did not look good for Strange.

Originally posted by shokosugi
Dr. Strange kills Thor in this.


Zom > Dormammu > Mephisto > Loki

Dr. Strange can:

invoke Zom
invoke Dormammu
and let's not forget the Eye of Agamotto
and the Crimson Bands of Cytorrak
AND MORE!

all of which is >> than Thor

Zom >>>> Odin

Dormammu >= Odin

Agamotto >= Odin

Cytorrak = Odin Strange can only summon up a fraction of Zom's might... nowhere near enough to dent RKT, oh, and Strange loses almost complete control.
Dormammu hates Strange.
The Eye Of Agamotto has nothing near enough powerful to deal with RKT.
The Bands of Cytorrak would get shattered by RKT, and probably cast aside like a minor spell.

shokosugi
Red Hulk, Bad writing. smile

Red Hulk
Originally posted by shokosugi
Red Hulk, Bad writing. smile What was bad writing?

I agree that my response was written a little hastily, but what about the stuff in my post?

Kasper Gutman
RKT and easily. No bias involved, both are my fav characters. Strange cuts loose with any spell or paraphernalia he likes and barely gets RKT's attention. Strange drinks himself some Zom elixier. RKT pulls the exact same Mangog trick and separates the Zom possession from Strange. RKT explains the reprecussions of the two of them fighting and possible killing each other and shows a vision of what would happen in the future. Strange settles down and they become best buds.

This is like a RKT vs Galactus fight. There's not a chance that RKT would fight someone who is clearly needed alive and well for the cosmos to remain "healthy". This is the all knowing unlimited wisdom version of Thor. If the Ancient One met RKT, he'd be the one asking RKT for advice and kissing his butt.

This thread needs to be changed to Dr. Strange vs any version of Thor except RKT. FYI Dr. Strange and classic Thor were long time buddies in the Defenders team along with Hulk and Namor.

Kasper Gutman
I'm just throwing this out there. Thor might have the most experience of any of the DC or Marvel super strong tank type heroes with dealing with magic users. He's had thousands of years of Loki and the Sorceress obsessing over him.

Priest
Rune King Thor ftw

Bada's Palin
Originally posted by Kasper Gutman
I'm just throwing this out there. Thor might have the most experience of any of the DC or Marvel super strong tank type heroes with dealing with magic users. He's had thousands of years of Loki and the Sorceress obsessing over him.

Not to mention the ridiculous cosmic awareness he was granted when he sacrificed his second eye in the well of......I forgot.

shokosugi
Check these out.

Dr. Strange defeating In-Betweener (above Thanos, Odin. Thor),

Dr. Strange defeating Galactus (above Odin, Thanos, Thor).

Dr. Strange also controlling the Mjolnir.


http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangethor9oa.jpg

Dr. Strange controls Thor's Hammer


http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib17wg.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib22ut.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib31wr.jpg


Dr. Stranger defeats in-Betweener (with no prep)

invokes Chaos and Order


http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galacko5uf.jpg


Dr. Strange Defeating Galactus

Bouboumaster
Strange defeating Galactus!? WTF!?

Galactus had the upperhand on Agamotto in his own realm!

DarkOdin
didn't this already happen.

It was King Thor odifroce only no runes.

Strange tried to cut of the odinpower and Thor wiped the floor with strange and the other hero's

ultimatethor
Originally posted by shokosugi
Check these out.

Dr. Strange defeating In-Betweener (above Thanos, Odin. Thor),

Dr. Strange defeating Galactus (above Odin, Thanos, Thor).

Dr. Strange also controlling the Mjolnir.


http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangethor9oa.jpg

Dr. Strange controls Thor's Hammer


http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib17wg.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib22ut.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib31wr.jpg


Dr. Stranger defeats in-Betweener (with no prep)

invokes Chaos and Order


http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galacko5uf.jpg


Dr. Strange Defeating Galactus

Actually strange didnt beat galactus at all. What happned was that Big G came to strange and told him he had need of his services, strange went out and they had a little scuffle in which strange blasted galactus( the scan u showed) and knocked G back but hurt him not in the least( as G simply stops himself mid air), Also from galactus statement on the next page it seems as if he allowed that to happen just to test out stranges power level. Strange then agreed to go with galactus.

And i think Chaoes and order were deliberately amping strange for the in betweener fight.

AlmightyKfish
Yeah, that Galactus scan is horribly out of context. The next page shows Galactus getting up, without a scratch, and saying merrily, it would've been interesting to see how much power it takes to defeat you.

And Strange is thinking 'I imagine not much' or something to that effect.

shokosugi
http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galatt1vc.jpg

Dr. Strange Hurts Galactus

http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=small0tr.jpg

Dr. Strange Protecting Himself from Galactus' Blast with the Shield of Seraphim


Heres a good one.

http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sleep7ay.jpg

Dr. Strange puts Hulk to Sleep

http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsdorm038ly.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsdorm046az.jpg

Dr. Strange defeating Dormammu


http://img468.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfstrange20wu.jpg

Thanos and Surfer start to fight.

Thor, Drax, Warlock, Hulk, Firelord and Doom can't stop the fight.

Strange does it in one shot.


http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bubbleqt3.jpg

Strange Surrounds Silver surfer with the Sphere of Nullification - cancelling out SS's powers.

shokosugi
Thanos with the IG is worried not of Thor, Warlock, SS, Galactus, etc....he's worried of Strange.

http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thanoswd2.jpg

Bada's Palin
Originally posted by shokosugi
Thanos with the IG is worried not of Thor, Warlock, SS, Galactus, etc....he's worried of Strange.

http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thanoswd2.jpg

Good thing we're not using classic Thor in this scenario.

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