Iron Man vs Mr Sinister

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Endrict Nuul
1. With TP powers.
2. Without TP powers.
3. With Prep


Who wins?

Raoul
1. Sinister.
2. Tony.

at first glance, imo...

Endrict Nuul
Pr, I added one more fight.

Raoul
3. Sinister, imo... prep = clones.

Priest
Iron Man....Prep=Thor Clones.

Raoul
Originally posted by Priest
Iron Man....Prep=Thor Clones.

i thought that was reed?

Priest
Originally posted by Raoul
i thought that was reed?
Thor had beef with Tony about the whole clone thing not Reed.
Reed probably did most of the clone work, But i would think Tony still has the blueprints of making the clones..

Raoul
Originally posted by Priest
Thor had beef with Tony about the whole clone thing not Reed.
Reed probably did most of the clone work, But i would think Tony still has the blueprints of making the clones..

hmm, yeah, true...

StiltmanFTW
Does Tony's armor have any TP blockers?

Silent Guardian
Ironman wins all

The Illuminati
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Does Tony's armor have any TP blockers?


Yes he does, and he wins every time.

Philosophía
bump

Wonder Man
Mr. Sinister might malicify the control of Iron Man's armor.

Eon Blue
IM wins.

Wonder Man
Wouldn't Mr. Sinister grow a suit of genitic armor from a smaple of Iron Man's armor?

carver9
Originally posted by Eon Blue
IM wins.

StiltmanFTW
TP or not, Sinister is still a beast.

Even if Tony can take him (if), it won't be easy.

DarkSaint85
Hard to see how Sinister loses with his TK, tbh.

carver9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
TP or not, Sinister is still a beast.

Even if Tony can take him (if), it won't be easy.

Agreed

DarkSaint85
Curious how people think IM wins.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Agreed

Sinister is a master shapeshifter --- with complete control over his cellular structure --- and with a Wolverine-level regenerative healing factor.

That combo makes him extremely hard to put down.

That's without factoring in his telekinesis, which he can use in plenty of different ways, including firing energy beams, erecting forcefields and flying.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Curious how people think IM wins.

Funny how Stark doesn't do nearly so well in other threads.

DarkSaint85
Plus he has his teleportation ability, which iirc he's used to take limbs off.....

Smurph

DarkSaint85
Siryn has screamed at Sinister. He was fine.

He's had holes blown in his head and he was laughing.....

https://i.imgur.com/i9k1eoG_d.jpg

Yes, I know it's a tiny pic. I don't care.

StiltmanFTW
http://i.imgur.com/j9F7UGk.png

http://i.imgur.com/i9k1eoG.png

DarkSaint85
Against Siryn, he just....splits himself apart.

https://i.postimg.cc/XqNWBCkM/RCO017.jpg

StiltmanFTW
Poor Shatterstar. All talk, no action.

DarkSaint85
Lol that issue even mocks him.

https://i.postimg.cc/jq9X3rBN/RCO007-2.jpg

StiltmanFTW
laughing

Priceless. Great find thumb up

Anyway, back on Essex...



Really? What about his forcefields?

http://i.imgur.com/L4c8OSp.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/64cxFL4.jpg

DarkSaint85
Also, with the TK, I was just thinking he gets his armour ripped apart piece by piece a la Boundless when she took him apart.

Smurph

zopzop

Smurph
How does he win?

carver9
Didnt Sinister and Ironman already fight? Let me see.

carver9
They did fight in -Hunt for Wolverine Adamantium Agenda Issue 3 - but it was interrupted by female Wolverine. Then, after that Sinister had a beastly showing in issue 4 against a team of Ironmen along with a couple of other Avengers while injured but they overwhelmed him in the end. Tony had on some Psi-Blockers during their fight but you can tell none of them couldve beat him solo imo.

carver9
https://comiconlinefree.com/hunt-for-wolverine-adamantium-agenda/issue-4/14

zopzop
Originally posted by Smurph
How does he win?
By destroying him via his TK/Energy blasts. Or if he feels like it, he eats his astral self/soul :
https://i.postimg.cc/sQtk0Tq4/d7bjIgF.jpg

Wonder Man
Iron Man has yet to be seen using his weight advantage his armor gives him openly.
If he could amass his weight gain like Wolverine's bone weight he would be able to slow down his opponent both in fighting and in death when he kills Mr. Sinister makeing it to put it plainly...one sided.

Damborgson
This would be a fun BZ.

Sinister's shielding would be better, with a Wolverine-like healing factor for if he does get hurt. He could also teleport right ontop of Iron Man and start dealing damage up close and personal. Or bind his arms behind him and go to town.

I know that Iron Man is basically a Swiss army knife though, I'm sure he'd have wicked counters.

Damborgson

DarkSaint85

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
female Wolverine

https://tinyurl.com/rjne7kx

Wonder Man
Iron Man is like Bishop. He can focus his attention on an opening with his re-pulsar and make the shot in fast time so that even against someone like Gladiator in 4D Iron Man can apply the Avengers Assemble.

Damborgson
Originally posted by Wonder Man
Iron Man is like Bishop. He can focus his attention on an opening with his re-pulsar and make the shot in fast time so that even against someone like Gladiator in 4D Iron Man can apply the Avengers Assemble.

-Confused noises-

Wonder Man
Iron Man's repulsars make opening. Plus his computing makes openings. Which gives Iron Man a 4 d range.

ShadowFyre
Originally posted by Damborgson
-Confused noises-


-tries to console your brain cells-

Smurph
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Considering Boundless took it apart pretty easily, she's just a human level in strength right?

Besides, there's the issue of just....snapping his neck inside the armour.
http://i.imgur.com/pUCdODh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9mInFWp.png

"But you can't process and respond to information at the speed of light, can you? Of course not. It doesn't matter how good your hardware is, your brain just doesn't work that fast"

a) feel free to explain how a feat explicitly requiring lightspeed will be performed by Sinister;

b) Boundless tells us that Iron Man's hardware is good, but his reflexes are sub C, and thus the strength of his hardware doesn't matter. This distinguishes the scan from the fight at hand: Iron Man's reflexes are better than Sinister's, and thus the strength of his hardware does matter. Unless Sinister has better TK offense feats than I've seen from him, I don't think he's picking apart Tony's armor like it's LEGO.

...

I won't continue this debate much further because I don't want to chase down scans and I don't have an Iron Man folder ready to go. That said, I think Sinister is benefiting from the forum's recency bias, and Tony is suffering, because we haven't had a serious IM fan on the forums in a while.

IM is also arguably a low herald. More importantly though, if we strip away Sinister's biggest offensive weapon (TP), his remaining attacks are limited to things that are all sub-herald, and all inferior to Tony's armor. If Sinister wins, it's through attrition.

DarkSaint85
I'm not sure how reflex speed helps with the structural integrity of his armour....

Philosophía
Why would Sinister need to remove the whole armor, when he can just remove, I dunno, the faceplate , and crush his skull?

Wonder Man
Iron Man removed all boobie traps from his armor.
He should be capable of a bull run like Sinister.
When the two collide you would have a superconductor reaction and a partical would emit.
The one who is fast enough to grab the particle would be able to kill the other.

DarkSaint85

Philosophía
uhuh

Wonder Man
Still if Iron Man focus on controling a 360 radius Mr. Sinister would have to use t.k. faster than technology has developed so to put it bluntly...Iron Man really can do 1 trillion things per second/per 32 feet.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
They did fight in -Hunt for Wolverine Adamantium Agenda Issue 3 - but it was interrupted by female Wolverine. Then, after that Sinister had a beastly showing in issue 4 against a team of Ironmen along with a couple of other Avengers while injured but they overwhelmed him in the end. Tony had on some Psi-Blockers during their fight but you can tell none of them couldve beat him solo imo.

Everyone ignored that post (guess since it was carver's), but truth is that weakened Sinister did have a good showing there.

At least it didn't look as if Tony could solo.

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