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In a full out fight, who do you take?

I say Emp Joker.

Which Anti-Monitor?

Doesn't matter.

Emperor Joker ftw.

It matters.
SoIE AM has destroyed every DC universe, leaving but 3 in the process.
Something that Emperor Joker has never done/shown to be capable to do.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
It matters.
SoIE AM has destroyed every DC universe, leaving but 3 in the process.
Something that Emperor Joker has never done/shown to be capable to do.

I thought Emp Joker destroyed EVERYTHING???

Joker

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Doesn't matter.

Emperor Joker ftw.

EJ

COIE AM was far more powerful. And he stood up to Spectre, most of DC's magicians, a 5D imp, getting bombarded by Darkseid, PC Superman, most of DC's heroes. And he killed infinite multiverses, all under his own power.

Who is emp joker?

Originally posted by Leobama
Who is emp joker?

Joker with Mr. Mxy's power.

AM kills him

This actually happened? If so, how was he defeated?

Originally posted by Leobama
This actually happened? If so, how was he defeated?

yes. Superman tricked him into giving the powers back to Mxy IIRC.

That doesn't do it justice. Superman hit Joker with a particularly nasty paradox. "If your (Joker's) existence is defined by Batman, and Batman is broken, then what are you?"

Or something along those lines. The resulting brain crash stopped Joker cold.

I was giving the broad stroke.

LOL !!!! That's crazy!!!

SC Anti-Monitor loses.

The Crisis Anti-Monitor on the other hand, that would be interesting.

COIE AM vs. Emperor Joker, would be an extremely good battle imo.

On one hand, you have Joker, whom destroyed the whole of DC's post-crisis-creation, across all of it's actualities, with an ACME bomb the size of a tour bus (lol) - and who also warped/owned/replaced Spectre himself (along with every other character,) with the utmost of ease.

On the other hand, you have AM whom was able to warp the energies of the Central Battery sufficiently enough to own the Guardians with it (lol.) He destroyed all but 3 of an infinite amount of universes, then incorporated all of that power into his being. He also fought an amped Spectre to a standstill, and survived a creation destroying/rebooting blast (the same blast which coma-fied Spectre,) with very little ill-effect.

Personally, I'd lean slightly toward AM - though I don't see much they could really do to each other. *shrug*

AM also has the option to just chomping down the universe for more juice. It's the fact that he not only destroyed the multiverse, but that he did so before he absorbed all of it, that gives him the edge, IMO.

Then again, Mxy's powers let Joker basically say screw the rules, so it could be a stalemate.

joker

Emperor Joker.

But I agree that it'd be a pretty interesting and close battle.

EJ

Emp Joker vs. Beyonder might be interesting.

Originally posted by tsscls
Emp Joker vs. Beyonder might be interesting.

It wouldn't be interesting for EJ. He'd get one-shotted.

EJ vs. Post-Retcon MM would be more even.

EJ

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
It wouldn't be interesting for EJ. He'd get one-shotted. No. he wouldn't.

Joker wins.

I give this to joker. He is evil! He has imagination!! His power also consists of will power. When you combine those two you gets a very power character. However, AM is no push-over. I lean towards EJ

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I give this to joker. He is evil! He has imagination!! His power also consists of will power. When you combine those two you gets a very power character. However, AM is no push-over. I lean towards EJ I personally think Am is overrated.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I personally think Am is overrated.

Yeah, Thanos could take him.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Yeah, Thanos could take him. With the ig he could imo.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. he wouldn't.

By Pre-Retcon? Easily.

Right a guy that almost destroyed all universes in Dc is overated classic. I say Ej wins.

CoIE AM is far from overrated. He's a beast.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Right a guy that almost destroyed all universes in Dc is overated classic. I say Ej wins. In my opinion he is. Im not saying he isnt powerful but when compared to other guys who have threatened the universe like joker he just doesnt cut the mustard.

hysterical AM is widely considered, even by DC characters, as the most powerful villain in DCU history. Infinite universes, and he absorbed them all.

Joker's power is vast, but what's stopping AM from absorbing him?

Stop bashing DC.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Joker's power is vast, but what's stopping AM from absorbing him?

The fact that Joker isn't a universe?

He also absorbed the powers of most of the DC heroes. So pipe down.

EJ

joker destroys him

Originally posted by quanchi112
In my opinion he is. Im not saying he isnt powerful but when compared to other guys who have threatened the universe like joker he just doesnt cut the mustard.

You've got to be kidding me?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You've got to be kidding me? you agree with him. u said joker wins

I disagree with him saying what CoIE AM did was unimpressive.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
hysterical AM is widely considered, even by DC characters, as the most powerful villain in DCU history. Infinite universes, and he absorbed them all.
*slaps*

Originally posted by Mindset
*slaps* He's right though.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
hysterical AM is widely considered, even by DC characters, as the most powerful villain in DCU history. Infinite universes, and he absorbed them all.

Joker's power is vast, but what's stopping AM from absorbing him?

Stop bashing DC. What he did was impressive,but he doesnt stack up against other badasses in a fight as well. I am not basing dc. Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You've got to be kidding me? I thought you gave the win to the joker as well. So,what problem do you have with what I said?

Destroying all but three of an infinite number of universes, stalemating Spectre, an easily taking shots from the likes of Darkseid and PC Supes= overrated character.

Cool.

Originally posted by Galan007
He's right though. Except the part where AM absorbed an infinite amount of universes.

Originally posted by Mindset
Except the part where AM absorbed an infinite amount of universes. Well all but 3, at least.

I have at least 3 on-panel references stating infinite. Including a 12 part summary of the crisises that ran in Countdown and 52 I believe.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I have at least 3 on-panel references stating infinite. Including a 12 part summary of the crisises that ran in Countdown and 52 I believe. There absolutely were an infinite number of universes during the time of the first Crisis - and somehow AM was able to destroy all but 3 of said infinity. It only makes sense, because it happened within the world of comic-dom.

Originally posted by Galan007
There absolutely were an infinite number of universes during the time of the first Crisis

There are now? I thought there were 52 universes plus, what, 13 dimensions?

Originally posted by Enyalus
There are now? I thought there were 52 universes plus, what, 13 dimensions? Per Rip:

http://s1d3.turboimagehost.com/t/1109277_rip_worldexplain1.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Per Rip:

http://s1d3.turboimagehost.com/t/1109277_rip_worldexplain1.jpg

Who is that bozo? And why does he call them fictional?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Who is that bozo? And why does he call them fictional? Rip Hunter = Bozo?

Originally posted by Juntai
Rip Hunter = Bozo?

I didn't get that's who Galan meant.

Okay. That's a pretty credible source.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Who is that bozo? And why does he call them fictional? That's Rip Hunter. srsly

And imo he calls it fictional because the concept of "dozens more than infinite" can only happen within the world of comics (which are fictional.)

Originally posted by Enyalus
Who is that bozo? And why does he call them fictional?

Go wiki Rip Hunter. I think you just stepped into it big time.

Originally posted by Juntai
Rip Hunter = Bozo? Yes

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Go wiki Rip Hunter. I think you just stepped into it big time.

I knew Rip Hunter was one of the Linear Men. But him looking like that? I didn't recognize him. And didn't get Galan's comment about "Per Rip:"

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes g_twitch

Doom > Rip

Ergo he's a bozo

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes



I'm pretty sure Rip is no longer affiliated with the Linear men.

Also, check out the concept of "Hypertime." It's pretty much the real explanation for elseworlds and alternate universes in the DCU.

Originally posted by Mindset
Doom > Rip

Ergo he's a bozo I see your point!

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