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Battle ground is a deserted planet Earth...

ROUND 1 : CLASSIC VERSIONS OF EACH CHARACTER

ROUND 2 : CURRENT VERSIONS OF EACH CHARACTER


Thor and Ice Man

VS.

Swamp Thing and Firestorm


THIS SHOULD BE INTERESTING

Give thor some help

Thor? Team two's screwed.

Did Firestorm get a powerup or something? If both are in elemental mode, team 2 stomps.

Maybe nobody read this, but team 2 is SWAMP THING! fear Swampie can easily solo the field.

Trick, drop a few pics for Starlock. He's really good

WTF? INTERESTING???

This is an extreme curbstomp to the 10th power!!
It's not even a match

I'm pretty sure classic Swamp thing could solo...

As for current characters... I'm not sure. Firestorm dies easily, Unless swamp thing has some kind of crazy healing powers (i am unaware of his current power sets and levels).

I say stalemate since Swampthing is pretty much immortal and so is Iceman.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
WTF? INTERESTING???

This is an extreme curbstomp to the 10th power!!
It's not even a match [/QUOTE

Please elaborate.

Originally posted by Comicbook_kid

Please elaborate.
Go to the respect forum.
You'll find all the answers you need in there.

Give him the answer.

Goes toe-to-toe and pwns Etrigan, an uber powerful demon in DC:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/ownetrigan1.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/ownetrigan2.jpg


Regenerates after being burned by freakin' Firestorm:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/regenerate_fire1.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/regenerate_fire2.jpg


Even the Anti-Matter wave had no effect to ST:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/consciousness_coie1.jpg


Guides souls to Heaven or Hell:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/abilities_souls1.jpg


Ability to steal souls:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/abilities_souls2.jpg


Has abilities that could rival "The Voice" itself:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/elemental8.jpg


Can resurrect the dead:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/elemental19.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/elemental20.jpg


He loses his powers because he "sheds" them:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/elemental21.jpg


Credits to Galan

Just wondering because he shed them what can current ST do?

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Firestorm dies easily You mustn't know much about Firestorm if you think he 'dies easily.'

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Goes toe-to-toe and pwns Etrigan, an uber powerful demon in DC:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/ownetrigan1.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/ownetrigan2.jpg


Regenerates after being burned by freakin' Firestorm:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/regenerate_fire1.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/regenerate_fire2.jpg


Even the Anti-Matter wave had no effect to ST:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/consciousness_coie1.jpg


Guides souls to Heaven or Hell:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/abilities_souls1.jpg


Ability to steal souls:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/abilities_souls2.jpg


Has abilities that could rival "The Voice" itself:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/elemental8.jpg


Can resurrect the dead:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/elemental19.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/elemental20.jpg


He loses his powers because he "sheds" them:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/elemental21.jpg


Credits to Galan To be fair, a few of the scans you posted are of ST when he had the combined powers of the other elementals. That being said, I highly doubt the thread starter intended for that version of ST to be included - as that would be spite.

Galan, Firestorm's durability is only that of a normal person right? Unless he can change his own body composition. I know that he can make his hair all fiery. IF he can't make his body into a inanimate hard substance. Whats keeping iceman from doing a moisture inversion or just freezing his ass and shattering him?

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Galan, Firestorm's durability is only that of a normal person right? If he had the resilience of a normal human, punches and various other attacks from the likes of an amped Kalibak, as well as the OMACs surely would have splattered him into oblivion... That's not the case, however.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
IF he can't make his body into a inanimate hard substance. Whats keeping iceman from doing a moisture inversion or just freezing his ass and shattering him? Intangibility?

Same coin, what's keeping Firestorm from BFR'ing Iceman's ass to another part of the universe, via zeta-beam?

Team 2, Firestorm is very strong, but Swamp thing is even also powerful.

Originally posted by Galan007
If he had the resilience of a normal human, punches and various other attacks from the likes of an amped Kalibak, as well as the OMACs surely would have splattered him into oblivion... That's not the case, however.

Intangibility?

Same coin, what's keeping Firestorm from BFR'ing Iceman's ass to another part of the universe, via zeta-beam?

Well but same reason why batman can take hits that would obliterate his frame but yet he stands (doubt the suit does that much..) Just silliness. Anyway, punch is far different than freezing. If I puch a steel safe, I might break my hand, If punch the same safe at absolute zero it will shatter.

Firestorm does not have the level of durability that can withstand Iceman's powers.

Iceman if shot with a beam that can transport him away will simply instantly transfer his consienceness psionically (think thast the right word) to any other moisture in the area (out thin air, steal it from firestorm himself making him into a dead husk, out of any body of water, anything really).

Hmm... I have a question how does Firestorm turn Intangible. Like some people go out of phase with the dimension or reality, or able to control their molecules really well, or just vibrate real fast. How does he do it?

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Well but same reason why batman can take hits that would obliterate his frame but yet he stands (doubt the suit does that much..) Just silliness. Anyway, punch is far different than freezing. If I puch a steel safe, I might break my hand, If punch the same safe at absolute zero it will shatter.

Firestorm does not have the level of durability that can withstand Iceman's powers.

Iceman if shot with a beam that can transport him away will simply instantly transfer his consienceness psionically (think thast the right word) to any other moisture in the area (out thin air, steal it from firestorm himself making him into a dead husk, out of any body of water, anything really).

Hmm... I have a question how does Firestorm turn Intangible. Like some people go out of phase with the dimension or reality, or able to control their molecules really well, or just vibrate real fast. How does he do it? Your posts scream out an ignorance towards Firestorm's powerset, as well as the opponents he's faced - and show a definite bias towards Iceman.

No offense, but there is no reason to drag this out any further - especially when, no matter what I say, you will still think Iceman wtfpwns!!

Originally posted by Galan007
Your posts scream out an ignorance towards Firestorm's powerset, as well as the opponents he's faced - and show a definite bias towards Iceman.

No offense, but there is no reason to drag this out any further - especially when, no matter what I say, you will still think Iceman wtfpwns!!

I have already said Team one will lose in Classic, and I have already said I'm not kinda on the fence about Current fight.

I may not be as knowledgeable as you about firestorm's powerset and all his feats and accomplishment but ignorance is a ugly word for unaware.

I do show a biased for Iceman, not because I like him because I think he can win. I have no idea what your feelings for Firestorm is but you obviously think Firestorm will win like how I think Iceman will win. I know it's hard to discern bias, I just honestly thinks he wins strictly due to his feats and accomplishments. I want to know why you think he will win.

Iceman has a huge weaknesses, just none of them are easy for Firestorm to exploit.

For all intents and purposes Team 2 wins both fights, i just don't think it's mainly due to FS.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I have already said Team one will lose in Classic, and I have already said I'm not kinda on the fence about Current fight.

I may not be as knowledgeable as you about firestorm's powerset and all his feats and accomplishment but ignorance is a ugly word for unaware. Again, I meant no offense - I just don't like debating (like I've done in the past) with people who are like brick walls. Because that inevitably goes sour.

Anyhow, you seem to be quite the opposite of that, and actually reasonable, so I'll continue with a few things.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I do show a biased for Iceman, not because I like him because I think he can win. I have no idea what your feelings for Firestorm is but you obviously think Firestorm will win like how I think Iceman will win. I know it's hard to discern bias, I just honestly thinks he wins strictly due to his feats and accomplishments. I want to know why you think he will win. I'm not biased towards FS per se, I just honestly believe he is far more powerful/versatile, than Iceman. His feats speak for themselves.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
For all intents and purposes Team 2 wins both fights, i just don't think it's mainly due to FS. In 'classic' mode, FS would have a very big part to play in the win. Ronnie was a powerhouse.

In 'current' mode, most of my props would go to ST (because he is extremely powerful) but Jason would still play a big part, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
Again, I meant no offense - I just don't like debating (like I've done in the past) with people who are like brick walls. Because that inevitably goes sour.

Anyhow, you seem to be quite the opposite of that, and actually reasonable, so I'll continue with a few things.

I'm not biased towards FS per se, I just honestly believe he is far more powerful/versatile, than Iceman. His feats speak for themselves.

In 'classic' mode, FS would have a very big part to play in the win. Ronnie was a powerhouse.

In 'current' mode, most of my props would go to ST (because he is extremely powerful) but Jason would still play a big part, imo.

Im in complete agreement with you actually. I just didn't word myself right.

"In 'current' mode, most of my props would go to ST (because he is extremely powerful) but Jason would still play a big part, imo."

St was very nasty back in the day and to be honest IM is nothing like he is today. Also I agree that FS would play a larger part because I don't think ST would be as big a threat to current Thor and IM as he would have been classic style.

FS is more versatile because he reminds me of a low level molecular man. Anyway why don't they have Firestorm owning like classic MM, it would be cool to see but I am unsure of what limits he has.

Thanks for not bunching me thing the think headed ones, appreciate it

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Anyway why don't they have Firestorm owning like classic MM, it would be cool to see but I am unsure of what limits he has. Funny you should say that :
Originally posted by Galan007
After Sersi aided them in pwning some random characters,
Wasp tells Firestorm to "pick a target." At this point, FS "picks" Molecule Man, and literally transmutes him into some nearby landscape:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_fs_avengers1.jpg

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There's also this little gem:
Originally posted by Galan007
Firestorm traps Thor in in a "Grade-A, all-purpose atomic containment sphere":

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_fs_thor1.jpg

Team 2.

Originally posted by Galan007
Funny you should say that :


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There's also this little gem: That's not classic MM

Originally posted by Mindset
That's not classic MM I know. But even current MM is supposed to be ridiculously uber.

I just think that instance is.... Something else. ermmhappy

Thor's momma is Gaia. He does have seldom used powers over the earth its self. Just throwing that out that. A clever writer could do something with that.

True. and I think the writers of his current series are playing it up.

Though, even Gaia wouldn't be able to depower Swampie.

^ marvel gaea bonded with the earth, she might not have to "de-power" him, just disrupt his control over his element.

then again, she's not in this and thor's terrakinesis or whatever is nothing like ST's or his mother's.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ marvel gaea bonded with the earth, she might not have to "de-power" him, just disrupt his control over his element.

then again, she's not in this and thor's terrakinesis or whatever is nothing like ST's or his mother's. Swamp Thing has control over the green throughout the universe F*ck Gaia. none

Team 2, take away bobby and give Thor a real partner.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Team 2, take away bobby and give Thor a real partner.

WTF?? Thor HAS one hell of a real partner!

Not for this match. Bobby is severely outgunned.

Firestorm or ST could solo

Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
WTF?? Thor HAS one hell of a real partner!

If we were in the low herald club maybe, but agaisnt FS and Swampy he is just a liability.