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Hello all ...

So yet again the people of the virtual-concentration camp, known officially as 'Gaza', are being bombarded from the sky by the bully-boys of Tel Aviv.

State-of-the art Israeli jets, paid for by the United States, bomb civilian targets in this tragic, poverty-stricken wasteland which acts as a holding camp for the human beings the Israeli government would rather be dead. Waiting in the wings are Israeli tanks preparing for a possible ground invasion of Gaza, again paid for by the United States.

The world watches as a nation of people, the Palestinians, are systematically crushed and destroyed by the tyrants who call the shots in Israel on behalf of that country's real power structure - the House of Rothschild.

And, taxpayers of America (and elsewhere), you are paying for this calculated slaughter.

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The Palestinian 'territories' of Gaza and the West Bank]/i]

American aid to Israel accounts for something like a third of all US overseas aid when Israel is home to just .001 per cent of the global population and has one of the highest incomes per head in the world. This is even without all the 'private' donations from US corporations and individuals which are tax-deductible even when given to the Israeli military, unlike any other foreign power.

According to 2007 figures, the United States government gave more than $6.8 million to wealthy Israel every day while to the desperate and devastated Palestinians of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank they gave just $300,000.

US military 'aid' to Israel increased by more than a quarter to an average $3 billion a year in 2007 - a figure guaranteed for ten years. This and other support makes Israel the biggest recipient of United States foreign military funding since the Second World War.

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The United States is also Israel's biggest supplier of fighter planes, weapons and other military technology. As a result, Israel has the world's largest F-16 fleet outside the US Air Force. In their book, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt write:

Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976 and the largest total recipient since World War ll. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars.

Israel receives about $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America's entire foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a direct subsidy worth about $500 per year. This largesse is especially striking when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.'

Why do they do this? Because the House of Rothschild controls Israel and the House of Rothschild controls the political system of the United States. The network that links the two is called 'Zionism', a Rothschild creation - just like Israel itself.

The might of this Zionist cabal spanning Israel, the United States, Europe and beyond is yet again, like the playground bully that it is, attacking the little kid in the calipers - the people of Gaza.

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At the time of writing the death toll is 430 Palestinian men, women and children with more than 2,000 injured. They are bombing the unarmed innocent knowing there will be no credible response - the way all bullies operate. Oh, brave men of Israel; oh how Yahweh would be so proud:

'When the LORD your God hands these nations over to you and you conquer them, you must completely destroy them. Make no treaties with them and show them no mercy.'

Deuteronomy 7:1-4

What we are seeing in Gaza, and have seen so many times, both there and in the Lebanon, is merciless Old Testament slaughter: cold, calculated, heartless slaughter.

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'So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin".'

Judges 21:10-24

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'Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all - old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple".'

Ezekiel 9:5-7

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'So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.'

Ezekiel 9:5-7

The parallels are endless between the bloodthirsty 'God' of the Old Testament and the actions of the heartless, soulless, Artificial Intelligence that controls Israel, most notably the biological robots of the House of Rothschild who thus have no soul, no empathy, no more mercy for the consequences of their actions than a desktop computer.

Imagine if Iran or anyone else outside Israel and the United States (both Rothschild assets) was doing what the Israeli military is doing in Gaza. There would be global condemnation, not least from Israel and the United States, resolutions passed in the UN Security Council and talk of the need for sanctions or military intervention to 'save the innocent'.

But when Israel does it we have vacuous calls for a truce, an end to the violence while 'understanding Israel's position', and, in terms of soon-to-be President 'Change' Obama, silence. It's all a fraction of what others would face because Israel is a wholly-owned asset of the Rothschilds and so is not subject to the same rules as anyone else. As former Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, said:

'Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial.'

And Prime Minister Golda Meir betrayed the same Zionist arrogance:

'This country exists as the fulfilment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy.'

Ah, it's all in the Old Testament? Gotcha, right, well do as you like then.

The 'Jewish homeland' was from the start a Rothschild fiefdom orchestrated through the global secret society network of interbreeding families known as the Illuminati.

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During the Israeli military attacks on the Lebanon in 2006, the Israeli writer, Barry Chamish, told of a meeting with Evelyn Rothschild's grandson, who abandoned the family to be a Mormon (so actually he didn't, even if he thought he did).

Chamish said he learned that just seven families were enjoying the 'fruits of the war' with the Lebanon. The grandson had said of the Rothschilds: 'They created Israel as their personal toy. It makes them richer and gives them more control. It's not going to be destroyed.'

The Rothschilds funded the early European settlers in Israel, manipulated events in Germany that led to the horrific treatment of Jewish people and others, and then used that as the excuse to reach their long-term goal - a Rothschild-Illuminati stronghold in Palestine using the Jewish population as fodder to be used and abused as necessary.

They called their plan 'Zionism'. This term is often used as a synonym for Jewish people when it is actually a political movement devised and promoted through the House of Rothschild and opposed by many Jews.

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Poster for the Irgun terrorist group

The Israeli bully-boys spend most of their time condemning the terrorism of others and yet their very State was created through terrorism of the most grotesque kind via groups like Irgun and the Stern Gang, which bombed and terrorised Israel into being.

Among the leading lights in these and other terrorist groups were Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir and Ariel Sharon, butchers who became Israeli Prime Ministers and had the nerve to condemn Arab terrorism. And to this day the butchery goes on with the goal of destroying the Palestinian people.

After the Rothschild-controlled Zionist terrorists had bombed the State of Israel into existence in 1948, an estimated 800,000 Palestinians were made refugees and fled what had been their own country. Their descendents are said to number some four million.

And the world simply looked on - just as it does to this day - because Israel is a law unto itself and so terms like justice, fairness, decency and mercy do not apply.

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Palestinian families fleeing the newly-imposed Israel after their country was occupied by Zionist terrorism in 1948.

The idea was always to destroy the Palestinian people step-by-step long before Israel was even created. The Balfour Declaration of 1917, in which the Rothschild-controlled British government supported the establishment of a 'Jewish' homeland in Palestine, said that 'nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of the existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine'.

But the Rothschild sidekick Chaim Weizmann would later say: 'With regard to the Arab question - the British told us that there are several hundred thousand Negroes there but this is a matter of no consequence'. Nor have they been ever since and the goal of destroying them is closer today than ever before.

The first Prime Minister of Israel, yet another terrorist called David Ben-Gurion, made no secret of this fact within his inner circle. Former Israel Prime Minister, Yitzhak Rabin, said in an uncensored version of his memoirs, published in the New York Times on 23 October 23rd, 1979:

'We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question - What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said "Drive them out!"'

The current bombing campaign against the Gaza Palestinians is just the latest step to that end. They have forced Palestinians into a Gaza Strip that is little more than a massive concentration camp in which they control all that goes in and out, people or supplies of food, medicines and other essentials.

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When the Israelis close the border posts, that's it, the Palestinians are trapped and at the mercy of the soulless and heartless that control the Tel Aviv government and military under Rothschild direction. And those border posts are closed now while Israel bombs the crap out of Gaza, despite calls for humanitarian aid to be allowed through.

My theory is that the Israeli government can't hear those calls because their computer brains can't compute the term 'humanitarian' or, for that matter, 'aid', unless it is followed by the words 'for Israel from the United States'. Then it's loud and clear.

One writer recently described conditions in Gaza:

' ... Israel nails shut the coffin that is Gaza under a siege that has lasted nearly three years, steadily intensifying so that malnutrition rates rival those of sub-Saharan Africa, sewage runs raw in the streets and pollutes the ocean, homes are still being bulldozed to super-add collective punishment upon collective punishment; men, women and children are still being sniped at and killed; children are deafened by continuing sonic booms, the vast majority of them suffer from post-traumatic stress syndrome, and many of that majority have no ambition other than becoming "martyrs" ...

How can anyone inflict such a lack of mercy on an entire people? The question can only be answered when we understand that Zionist extremists really do believe they are God's Chosen People and that therefore the Palestinians are little more than cattle.

The Israel Prime Minister and terrorist, Menachem Begin, described the Palestinians in a speech to the Israeli parliament as 'beasts walking on two legs'. Another Prime Minister and terrorist, Yitzhak Shamir, told Jewish settlers in 1988 that the Palestinians 'would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls.'

Prime Minister and terrorist, Ariel Sharon, then Israeli Foreign Minister, confirmed in 1998 what the plan really was for the Palestinians:

'It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialisation, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.'

The plan is to kill or drive out the Palestinian people using poverty, hunger and war and so allow the Zionists to expand into 'Greater Israel'. That plan is now well advanced.

In early 2008, the United Nations' leading humanitarian affairs official said he was 'shocked' by the 'grim and miserable' conditions in Gaza. Undersecretary General John Holmes blamed this on Israel closing the border crossings and so limiting the supply of food and other materials - just as they are doing today.

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He said: 'All this makes for a grim human and humanitarian situation here in Gaza, which means that people are not able to live with the basic dignity to which they are entitled'.

But then are just 'beasts walking on two legs', right?

Richard Falk, the UN Human Rights Council Special Rapporteur on the occupied territories, has also condemned Israel for its actions in Gaza. He is Jewish and therefore much more dangerous to the Israel government because he can't be dismissed as the old favourite 'anti-Semitic'. Or maybe he is a 'self-hater', the tag given by these sick people to those Jews who speak out against Israel.

Falk's punishment for daring to criticise the Promised Land as a UN official was to be held for 20 hours and then denied entry to the country and so he is prevented from doing his job of reporting on conditions for the Palestinian people during the current air attacks.

His entry was denied in mid-December - perfect timing not to be there for the latest bombing that they knew was coming. Click here for an interview with Richard Falk ...

The Bush administration for the last eight years has been dominated by the Neo-conservative, or 'Neocon', network which is, itself, dominated by US/Israeli duel citizens and/or Zionists like Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Pearle, Dov Zackheim, William Kristol, Robert Kagan, Elliot Abrams, Douglas Feith, John Bolton, Robert B Zoellick, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and others. The neo-con godfather is the late Leo Strauss, a German-born Jewish 'philosopher', who believed that people must be governed by a 'pious elite'.

But surely those days of Zionist dominance are over because 'Mr. Change' is coming to 'power' now. Er, if only. Barack Obama has packed his 'new' administration with Zionists like Rahm Emanuel, his White House Chief of Staff.

Emanuels' father, Benjamin, was a member of the Irgun terrorist group in Palestine that I mentioned earlier and we can clearly expect the Obama administration to be balanced and fair on its Israel/Palestinian policy. No wonder Obama has kept quiet on the Israeli bombing of Gaza.

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Obama speaks out on Gaza crisis: 'Hey, I got nothin' to say, I got the chance of a par here ... ask my Chief of Staff, he's a rabid Zionist and his dad helped bomb Israel into existence. He'll know what's goin' on.'

The Obama government is going to be slavishly pro-Israel because he needed the sanction of the truly massive Zionist lobby in the United States to secure the presidency. His vice-president, Joe Biden, is a long-time bag-carrier for Israel. He said on Israeli television: 'I am a Zionist - you don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist'. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is another Israel puppetess who pledged to 'obliterate' Iran if it launched a nuclear attack on God's chosen country.

Would she say she would obliterate Israel if it launched a nuclear attack on Iran? No way.

The Palestinians have never had a chance because the table is weighted, the game is rigged and it always has been. At the time of the First World War, the Rothschild-controlled British government told the Palestine Arabs that if they fought the Ottoman Turks and forced them to leave Palestine and other lands they would be rewarded with an independent Palestine.

The Palestinian Arabs agreed and with support from the British through Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Edward Lawrence - 'Lawrence of Arabia' - the Ottoman Empire was defeated. But their reward was not independence. It was first rule by a British 'Mandate' and then occupation by Zionist Israel.

The Arabs were lied to, as Lawrence later admitted, and they have been lied to ever since. All these 'road maps' and 'peace processes' are always designed to lead nowhere. They are just holding positions to maintain the status quo until the Palestinians are basically no more.

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The Israelis always say they are killing people in 'retaliation' for attacks by the Palestinian group, Hamas, which officially controls the Gaza 'authority', although control is hardly the word with Israel deciding what and who goes in and out.

Hamas operatives are firing low-tech rockets that have so far killed four people. Terrible, yes, and it should not be happening. I have no brief for Hamas, which is another tyranny in its own way, but ask yourself this: What would you do if you were faced with the situation the Palestinians are in after nearly sixty years of oppression and persecution while the world does nothing?

If you remove the injustice, you remove the motivation for a violent response to that injustice. Put people in a position where they either accept their pathetic plight or open fire and some are bound to choose the latter.

But instead of tackling the root cause, injustice, Israel responds with a state-of-the-art bombardment that kills hundreds and injures thousands in a few days, at least 90% of which are men, women and children who have nothing whatsoever to do with the rocket attacks. In 2007, 25 Palestinians were killed for every Israeli. That's more than just 'protecting yourself'.

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As Jewish UN representative, Richard Falk, said a few days ago:

'The Israeli airstrikes on the Gaza Strip represent severe and massive violations of international humanitarian law as defined in the Geneva Conventions, both in regard to the obligations of an Occupying Power and in the requirements of the laws of war ...

Those violations include:

• Collective punishment: The entire 1.5 million people who live in the crowded Gaza Strip are being punished for the actions of a few militants.

• Targeting civilians: The airstrikes were aimed at civilian areas in one of the most crowded stretches of land in the world, certainly the most densely populated area of the Middle East.

• Disproportionate military response: The airstrikes have not only destroyed every police and security office of Gaza's elected government, but have killed and injured hundreds of civilians; at least one strike reportedly hit groups of students attempting to find transportation home from the university.'

This savagery towards Palestinians has been going on since the Zionist terror groups began their campaign of violence to secure the State of Israel and the scale of this ongoing evil has often been suppressed by the fear of being called 'anti-Semitic'.

The Rothschild dynasty has created a vast network of 'anti-hate' groups, like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and so many others, to label as 'anti-Semitic' or 'racist' anyone who dares to expose or condemn Israel or its networks of manipulation within the United States and elsewhere.

Politicians (though all but are a few are terrified or rewarded into silence), university professors, people like me, and anyone with any kind of public stage, are immediately condemned by the ADL and smeared as 'racist' with support from the Robot Radicals of the Robot 'Left' if they expose Israel or anyone who happens to be Jewish.

The irony of those claiming to be the chosen people and above all others accusing anyone else of racism boggles the bloody mind.

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Jewish people who challenge the tyranny, like the superb Norman Finkelstein, are dubbed 'self-haters' and often lose their jobs and livelihoods as a result. The Rothschild 'anti-hate' groups put any Big Brother to shame.

But we can't - and MUST NOT - stay silent on the plight of the Palestinians because we fear the consequences for ourselves. What are we, mice??

This is not about racism; it is about fascism and the daily onslaught against a helpless and tragic people. I don't give a shit what the ADL thinks about what I say, nor those on the 'Left' who parrot its propaganda like the juveniles that they are.

It needs saying and therefore someone needs to say it.

And, by the way, those that are running the Zionist agenda, which is part of much bigger global agenda in league with the Illuminati families, don't give a damn for Jewish people in general. They, too, are just an expendable irrelevance to the greater goal.

As the first Israeli Prime Minister, the terrorist, David Ben-Gurion, said:

'If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.'

What kind of sick mind does it take to say that? The kind that has run Israel since 1948 would appear to be the answer.

We need to drop the ludicrous, childish, labels of Jew and Gentile and Muslim and all this illusory crap and come together in the name of peace and justice for all. There is not a Jewish injustice or a Palestinian injustice, there is simply injustice.

Justice for one and no justice for another is 'justice' for no-one. For justice has no meaning unless it applies to all, and it will never apply to the Palestinians while the world stays silent and looks the other way.

Conspiracy forum.

keep your thoughts to yourself. you are one of the reasons why the world is like it is. disgrace

Keep your thoughts to yourself. You are one of the reasons why the world is like it is. A disgrace.

Absolutely 100% Conspiracy Forum...that's what it is for, Deano.

You coming back here every 2-3 months to pass one by gets annoying.

Originally posted by Deano
keep your thoughts to yourself. you are one of the reasons why the world is like it is. disgrace

Siren Noises: *Woooo-woooo-wooooo-woooooo-woooooo*...!!!!

Irony police!
This is a bust!



Woah there neddy....!!!

Can't be shouting off about thought control while screaming at poeple who think differently than you to not to voice opinions than yours..
(Well...I say 'yours'...it looks like a copy and paste job to me.)

It does your argument no favours.

And Chaos and Bardock are right. This is a conspiracy you speak of.
Real or otherwise.

Don't be silly, Deano has not uttered one originial thought on KMC since he joined.

Heheheheee

It'll not be long before the lizards are bought into it.

Originally posted by Kinneary
Conspiracy forum.

I disagree.

I think he constructed a very fine post with many facts as well as many suggestions, suggestions that inspire a few questions. It's Deano, of course his political threads are going to have an air of what many may consider to be conspiracy but i think he did a good job with this one. Why not debate the elements you believe to be conspiracy?
The subject content of this thread is very important and topical. There are many things about this war that no one knows. I think shrouding these threads in the conspiracy forum, a forum where mostly only "conspiracy theorists" go is unfair.
Could Deano have contributed this information and suggestions in already existing thread on the topic? Perhaps but thats no reason to send this thread into the basement, if it has to be moved why not a merge.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
what many may consider to be conspiracy


No, look, it's not what many consider to be a "conspiracy". It is a conspiracy. The word has a specific, defined meaning.

And things that are about a conspiracy...should be in the conspiracy forum.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I disagree.

I think he constructed a very fine post with many facts as well as many suggestions, suggestions that inspire a few questions. It's Deano, of course his political threads are going to have an air of what many may consider to be conspiracy but i think he did a good job with this one. Why not debate the elements you believe to be conspiracy?
The subject content of this thread is very important and topical. There are many things about this war that no one knows. I think shrouding these threads in the conspiracy forum, a forum where mostly only "conspiracy theorists" go is unfair.
Could Deano have contributed this information and suggestions in already existing thread on the topic? Perhaps but thats no reason to send this thread into the basement, if it has to be moved why not a merge.

thats all i ask. but of course the idiots come in and ruin it again

QUOTE=11449632]Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The same reason we put the Bible in the religion forum rather than the empirical science forum in spite of the small number of facts that show up in the text.



Because he's Deano and if you disagree with him the only answer you get is that you're buying into the conspiracy. Hence, conspiracy corner.

wow comparing this with the bible..how weak

Originally posted by Bardock42
Don't be silly, Deano has not uttered one originial thought on KMC since he joined.

now thats silly

Good ole Deano and his David Icke 'I hate the lizards and the Jews' conspiracies.

Welcome to Pallywood.

t_B1H-1opys

Edit: I'm actually not sure if Icke hates the lizards.

Isn't posting pictures of dead bodies against the pg-13 rating of this site and thus a bannable offence?

why bring that up? if the truth of what is happenin hurts you, then you shouldnt read it.

Why bring it up?...Because it's the rules.

Regardless, I've seen a lot worse, and what you post is rarely ever truth. This being another example of regurgitating nonsense. Of course, when someone proves it as complete nonsense you'll simply fall back on your tried and tested line "I don't believe it but i thought i'd post it cos it might interest people"

Well i think all your previous posts of this nature show that people aren't interested. So why bother?

They show dead bodies on news sites and channels. That is all considered viewable by all.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, look, it's not what many consider to be a "conspiracy". It is a conspiracy. The word has a specific, defined meaning.

And things that are about a conspiracy...should be in the conspiracy forum.

I know what the meaning of the word conspiracy means but you know what i meant. Conspiracy theories are often times subjective where as the word conspiracy isn't and i may have been using the word conspiracy improperly to describe Deanos interest in conspiracy theories but you had to have known that.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I disagree.

I think he constructed a very fine post with many facts as well as many suggestions, suggestions that inspire a few questions. It's Deano, of course his political threads are going to have an air of what many may consider to be conspiracy but i think he did a good job with this one. Why not debate the elements you believe to be conspiracy?
The subject content of this thread is very important and topical. There are many things about this war that no one knows. I think shrouding these threads in the conspiracy forum, a forum where mostly only "conspiracy theorists" go is unfair.
Could Deano have contributed this information and suggestions in already existing thread on the topic? Perhaps but thats no reason to send this thread into the basement, if it has to be moved why not a merge.

He didn't make any facts...It's a cut n paste job from David Icke's website...as Deano's threads invariabley are...Infact there is one way to tell which ones are and which aren't...The ones that begin with "Hello all.." are David Icke articles complete with pictures.

does it matter? no it doesnt

you can either

a: choose to respond approprietly

b: not respond at all

its that simple.

Originally posted by Deano
does it matter? no it doesnt

you can either

a: choose to respond approprietly

b: not respond at all

its that simple.

Seems Icke can't keep his conspiracies in order. If the Rothchilds (aka the Jews) run America as this story claims, where does the Babylonian Brotherhood, the all controlling global elite and lizard people fit in, aren't they supposed to be pulling the world's strings, as Icke has ranted before?

Edit: or do "the Jews" = Babylonian Brotherhood/Global Elite/Lizard people all in one?

Well looks like the Rothchilds have some influence here as well, it has been moved

Originally posted by Robtard
Seems Icke can't keep his conspiracies in order. If the Rothchilds (aka the Jews) run America as this story claims, where does the Babylonian Brotherhood, the all controlling global elite and lizard people fit in, aren't they supposed to be pulling the world's strings, as Icke has ranted before?

Edit: or do "the Jews" = Babylonian Brotherhood/Global Elite/Lizard people all in one?

see if you read his work it might become a bit more clear. it saves having these little rants

Originally posted by Deano
does it matter? no it doesnt

you can either

a: choose to respond approprietly

b: not respond at all

its that simple.

Is this you trying to stifle free speech?...Oh the irony.

Agree with me or go away.

Originally posted by Deano
see if you read his work it might become a bit more clear. it saves having these little rants

I read what you copy and paste of his, obviously. If you're taking the time to reply, at least answer the question(s) I pose, instead of answering with a dodge.

Originally posted by jaden101
Is this you trying to stifle free speech?...Oh the irony.

dont be silly. you know what i was saying

Originally posted by Robtard
I read what you copy and paste of his, obviously. If you're taking the time to reply, at least answer the question(s) I pose, instead of answering with a dodge.

its complex. check out his work. it will explain in detal

as far as icke is concerned, the brotherhood (illuminati) are the people at the top. these are the people icke claims are possesed by these reptiliian entitys. demons as many people call them. check my recent thread on mind control and possesion.

the rothschilds are part of this brotherhood, though maybe not right at the top of the pyramid

Is Israel going to gang up with the big, bad New World Order?

Did someone forget to tell you that Israel is actually retaliating to attacks. They only happen to be surrounded COMPLETELY by their worst enemies.

So why did they establish a country there again?

They established a country there first. The others rose to power around them.

Originally posted by Shaggs
They established a country there first. The others rose to power around them. #

Thats total rubbish...

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
#

Thats total rubbish...

Kingdom of Israel, beeyeotch.

Originally posted by Deano
its complex. check out his work. it will explain in detal

as far as icke is concerned, the brotherhood (illuminati) are the people at the top. these are the people icke claims are possesed by these reptiliian entitys. demons as many people call them. check my recent thread on mind control and possesion.

the rothschilds are part of this brotherhood, though maybe not right at the top of the pyramid

You seemed to sum it up nicely there, so it doesn't seem so complex:

Super secret group who controls the world/pulls it's strings are reptilians, the Jews are their cohorts. Check.

Seriously Deano, you really; I mean REALLY believe this?

Sure the super-rich/powerful ultimately have control and they do what they've always done, play the game to secure their future, but that's a far cry from 'demon brotherhood' controlling the fate of mankind. *menancingly rubs hands together*

look...i always take socrates quote into consideration

''the only wisdom is in knowing you know nothing''

who knows if there is entitys in other dimensions.

do you know?

So what do beings in another dimension have to do with Israel?

There may well be other dimensions and beings that live there...the idea that they are reptilian and control the earth is utterly absurd though.

Demons, reptile people, jews, etc. are no match for Mother Russia, so don't have any worries people.

Originally posted by jaden101
So what do beings in another dimension have to do with Israel?

There may well be other dimensions and beings that live there...the idea that they are reptilian and control the earth is utterly absurd though.

500 years ago, saying the earth was round was absurd too.

Originally posted by Deano
500 years ago, saying the earth was round was absurd too.

funny that...given that it was the 4th century (1700 years ago) the idea of a spherical earth was being accepted as fact.

That you peddling lies again Deano?

whatever. surely your smart enough to see the point i was making. and whatever the date was, im pretty sure the majority thought the earth was flat at one time.

just because something is widely believed, doesnt make it true.

hitler blew up his reichstag and blamed it on the enemy. at the time, anyone coming along saying it was all lies would of been branded absurd and a conspiracy nut.

but things never seem to change do they?

and look also..billions believe in religion..that there is an invisible man in the sky looking down judging us.. and if we dont believe it we get to dine with a man called satan for eternity. now your a smart man jaden..you know i think that religion is bullshit. so we can come to the conclusion that billions of people believe in absurdity and utter stupidity. yet us conspiracy nuts get the most slack. yes the world is mad

i beliving in the POSSIBILTY of other dimensions. dimensions which scientists are acknowledging to exist. do entitys reside there? i dont know. you dont know. there has to be something in this possesion and demon lark. it surely must be based on some truth.

You're saying that conspiracy theorists get more hassle for their beliefs than religious people?...Please...I know you can't possibly think that's true. I don't see anyone starting a holocaust of conspiracy theorists for example.

You're also trying to water down the ideas of Icke by calling on science to back your claims. Yes i've read articles about massive areas of empty space where some physicists believe it could be the imprint of another universe outwith the dimensions of our own...Yes i'm well aware of the part of string theory that allows for different dimensions.

None of this point to the idea that there are Lizard beings which have traversed from another dimension or universe and rule over us in a group of families which you claim have done so for thousands of years

ive never claimed anything. i merely bought ickes beliefs to the table. the idea is to share information, however bizarre it may seem, and then hopefully come to your own conclusions.

the idea that something exists in space we cannot see has always existed in the human psyche. im saying that maybe all the worshipping and summoning of these unseen 'demons' could be connected to what icke is saying. that these demons could just be another name for the reptillian entities that exist in other dimensions. whereas religious people would scream satan, other people might look at it from a more logical perspective.

we know there is a lot of satanic activity in the world. obviously its easy to dismiss these loons as psychos but when rich politicians take part in these strange worshippings and sacrifices, it makes you wonder if there is something more to all this. bohemian grove for example.

i suggest a read of this
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=11238294& amp;highlight=doctors+forumid%3A70+userid%3A29081#
post11238294

David Berkowitz, the serial killer in New York known as the Son of Sam, later revealed that he was part of a Satanic group which had orchestrated his murders. In letters to a church minister, Berkowitz said:

'... Satanists are peculiar people. They aren't ignorant peasants or semi-literate. Rather, their ranks are filled with doctors, lawyers, businessmen and basically highly responsible citizens ... They are not a careless group who are apt to make mistakes. But they are secretive and bonded together by a common need and desire to mete out havoc on society.

im not saying i believe in it. im just trying to keep an open mind. as always

Ah so now it's a secret group that's been around for thousands of years that worship satan despite satanism only being around for about 60 years and is based on the protocol of the elders of Zion...an Anti semitic book that alledges a plot by Jews to take over the world

So let me get this right...You're saying that the Jewish families such as the Rothschilds etc all run the world but worship a religion that is based on a text that alledges that they run the world and need to be stopped thus effectively worshipping a religion that wants themselves erradicated.

how very odd

im not saying the rothschilds run the world. you are. they are part of it im sure.

there are obviously many people who think they are worshipping satan when in fact they havent a clue who these entitys are, if of course they exist in the first place

i would imagine(if of course this is true) those at the very top know what these 'demons' really are.

and plus im quite sure that not everyone involved in the conspiracy either knowingly or unknowingly are worshipping these entitys. like the people that worship the demon moloch and do moch human sacrifices. there might be some people there who think its just a gimmick and tale part, while others know the true meaning. not everyone is in the loop.

satanism as been around for much longer than 60 years. maybe not in the way we see it today but in some form or another it has been active. possesion storys and worshipping unseen entitys has been going on for centuries

Great job on finding and posting all this material, Deano.

I would love to see a picture of these so called "reptile people."

Oh wait they don't exist. Nevermind.

Hahaha. The Nightmare Never Ends.

I went through and removed all the graphic images from this thread because Killermovies is a PG-13 website. David Icke can post material all he wants on his own website showing the corpses of children. You can't.

Also, closed for plagiarizing David Icke's work.