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Galactus just ate a whole universe. For the purpose of this match, his power won't decrease. Can he best the Specter?

No

After eating a whole Universe? Against the Specter?

Galactus dies.

If Galactus is at "full power"
then we must assume this is Galactus afetr eating the Omniverse,
which he was once going to do but ended up erasing himself before proceeding.

There are several stories have given us actual showings & insight into Galactus' potential:

He contains a cosmos within him.
He's made up of infinite energy.
He's birthed the next Marvelverse.
He is the balance of all things as his death brings about the end of all creation.
He was on his way to eating the Omniverse.
(confirmed/corroborated by the FF, GOTG and Avengers)

Just a few examples.

Hey Mr. M

Spectre wins

Originally posted by guy222

Hey Mr. M
Hello good friend.
Originally posted by guy222

Spectre wins
After Galactus eating just one universe and nothing more?

Sure.

The "Specter?" The old member of the Corsairs? Dude, he was depowered during M-Day.

This is the most horrible spite thread I've ever seen.

who the fudge is the spectr i've heard of the spectre but not the spectr.

Originally posted by carnage52
who the fudge is the spectr i've heard of the spectre but not the spectr.

Already made the spelling comment... and mine was way more awesome...

Originally posted by Mr Master
Hello good friend.

After Galactus eating just one universe and nothing more?

Sure.

Always good to see ya good friend

Did u see Spectre's feat vs Cain

Which Spectre?

Prolly Crispus

SPECTRE.

Current Spectre wins.

Originally posted by tjcoady
Already made the spelling comment... and mine was way more awesome...

Depends on the version of Spectre used. But current would lose.

Crispen Allen Spectre wouldn't lose didn't anybody read Revelations? he's the fist of god nothing beats that .

Originally posted by iceman24567
Crispen Allen Spectre wouldn't lose didn't anybody read Revelations? he's the fist of god nothing beats that .

Crispus used to be a punching bag, he finally became someone.

Originally posted by Bentley
Crispus used to be a punching bag, he finally became someone. He is becoming a powerful Spectre

Spectre ftw. I don't give a shit what Galactus eats beforehand.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Crispen Allen Spectre wouldn't lose didn't anybody read Revelations? he's the fist of god nothing beats that .

Yeah I read it. Hyperbole is great. Especially when its redundant. Spectre is always God's fist/enforcer/vengeance, etc. Allen simply didn't know how to use the power before. And now he does. And right after that, he got his ass beaten and power drained by Mandrakk. Wouldn't be surprised if Galactus did the same.

Spectre for the win.

Originally posted by Galan007
Spectre ftw. I don't give a shit what Galactus eats beforehand. What if he eats the Source?

Originally posted by Utrigita
Spectre for the win.

Originally posted by Mindset
What if he eats the Source?
mhmm

Originally posted by Mindset
What if he eats the Source?
Can he even do that? Didn't the Source like throw out Spectre like nothing. I would imagine that it would do the same to Gala

What if he ate another, different Spectre?

Spectre.

Originally posted by tjcoady
What if he ate another, different Spectre?

There is no 'different Spectre'. He is singular throughout creation.

Originally posted by tjcoady
I was kidding...

I know.

I just wanted to add that. uhuh

Originally posted by Mindset
What if he eats the Source?

What if he eats your mom?

Originally posted by shokosugi
What if he eats your mom? What if you eat out your mom?

Originally posted by Mindset
What if you eat out your mom?

Galactus wins.

Galactus doesn't win here

Originally posted by guy222
Galactus doesn't win here Too powerful imo. I mean Shazam took him to the distance and the only reason he didn't win was because of the whole magic thing which won't aid him against Galactus.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yeah I read it. Hyperbole is great. Especially when its redundant. Spectre is always God's fist/enforcer/vengeance, etc. Allen simply didn't know how to use the power before. And now he does. And right after that, he got his ass beaten and power drained by Mandrakk. Wouldn't be surprised if Galactus did the same.
I would be suprised considering mandrakk shits on galactus.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Too powerful imo. I mean Shazam took him to the distance and the only reason he didn't win was because of the whole magic thing which won't aid him against Galactus.

You using a hostless Spectre as an example for Crispus?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
I would be suprised considering mandrakk shits on galactus.


Regular Galactus? Sure. After eating an universe? I would like to see feats.

Originally posted by Bentley
You using a hostless Spectre as an example for Crispus?




Regular Galactus? Sure. After eating an universe? I would like to see feats. There is no host specified, so why wouldn't I?

Originally posted by Galan007
Spectre ftw. I don't give a shit what Galactus eats beforehand.

Even Utrigita who loves Galactus and a dear friend gives Spectre the win

Nuff said

Are we gonna say Galactus at full power takes on LT?

Spectre is the right hand of God. Nice feat by Crispus. Give him some love

Originally posted by guy222
Even Utrigita who loves Galactus and a dear friend gives Spectre the win

Nuff said

Are we gonna say Galactus at full power takes on LT?

Spectre is the right hand of God. Nice feat by Crispus. Give him some love galactus would eat LT

Originally posted by Bentley
You using a hostless Spectre as an example for Crispus?




Regular Galactus? Sure. After eating an universe? I would like to see feats.
I would like to see feats from galactus eating a universe then being stronger then a guy who is powered by the dc multiverse,who feed on the spectre apparently without trouble,who is above dudes who basically sculpt reality with mere thoughts.

Originally posted by guy222
Even Utrigita who loves Galactus and a dear friend gives Spectre the win

Nuff said

Are we gonna say Galactus at full power takes on LT?

Spectre is the right hand of God. Nice feat by Crispus. Give him some love I think he is wrong though.

Spectre is nowhere near as powerful as the Lt imo by the by.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
I would like to see feats from galactus eating a universe then being stronger then a guy who is powered by the dc multiverse,who feed on the spectre apparently without trouble,who is above dudes who basically sculpt reality with mere thoughts.

Ok, first of all "being powered by X" is an argument that sucks balls. Himon is powered by the Source and he is a chump.

Feeding in the Spectre is pretty good, who are those dudes he owned? The Monitors? Sculpting reality is cool and all, but Galactus is above Cube beings who do exactly that and affect the multiverse... While hungry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think he is wrong though.

Spectre is nowhere near as powerful as the Lt imo by the by.

Galactus is no LT.

It's funny how some people are acting as though they know how powerful Galactus would be after consuming a universe and such - despite his never having done so on panel.

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Originally posted by Bentley
Ok, first of all "being powered by X" is an argument that sucks balls. Himon is powered by the Source and he is a chump.

Feeding in the Spectre is pretty good, who are those dudes he owned? The Monitors? Sculpting reality is cool and all, but Galactus is above Cube beings who do exactly that and affect the multiverse... While hungry.
Galactus never shows himself above cube beings sorry hes a chump pretty much all the time,and hes powered by it as in he feeds off the entire thing.

Originally posted by Bentley
Galactus is no LT. He doesn't have to be to defeat the Spectre.Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Galactus never shows himself above cube beings sorry hes a chump pretty much all the time,and hes powered by it as in he feeds off the entire thing.

Originally posted by Galan007
It's funny how some people are acting as though they know how powerful Galactus would be after consuming a universe and such - despite his never having done so on panel.

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I assume he would be at least top be at the top of his past performances.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Galactus never shows himself above cube beings sorry hes a chump pretty much all the time,and hes powered by it as in he feeds off the entire thing.

You understand the idea of Full power? You choose to take his chump showings because...?

What about Galactus's tech powering Korvac for example? Or maybe fighting Agamotto in his own realm? Or the In-Betweener?

I'm not claiming that Galactus automatically beats Mandrakk because I say so, I'm asking what he has done to compare. Going by feats by name or by concept you could stumble by any number of characters that in theory do great thinks and then get killed by stupid stuff. For example, was Mandrakk really killed by a bunch of Supermen and GLs?

Originally posted by Nihilist
galactus would eat LT

Nope

Nope

Nope

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think he is wrong though.

Spectre is nowhere near as powerful as the Lt imo by the by.

How does Galactus beat one who is empowered by the Presence?

He doesn't good friend

Originally posted by Bentley
I assume he would be at least top be at the top of his past performances. Which would be what exactly? Certainly not during the Black Celestial arc, in which he had been 'altered' by Tiamut, right?

Originally posted by Galan007
Which would be what exactly? Certainly not during the Black Celestial arc, in which he had been 'altered' by Tiamut, right? It's not like his alteration made Galactus any stronger

Originally posted by Mindset
It's not like his alteration made Galactus any stronger No, but it made his hunger geometrically greater - which is the only reason he might have been able to eat Marvel.

This is ****ing bullshit.........

People are arguing Galactus actually has a chance? After what Crispus just did in FC, even he would chump Galactus, and he was one of the weakest Spectres. And also current, WHO FORUM RULES SAY WE REVERT TO. People bringing up Hostless Spectre is useless, and again, pointless. Also, considering what a hostless Spectre did in FC, I would not lowball him.........ermm

Originally posted by Galan007
Which would be what exactly? Certainly not during the Black Celestial arc, in which he had been 'altered' by Tiamut, right?

Note: I still don't think Galactus wins.

However what about breaking the power of Five Cosmic Containment units? Is that something you can use?

Originally posted by Utrigita
Note: I still don't think Galactus wins.

However what about breaking the power of Five Cosmic Containment units? Is that something you can use? I am by no means saying which Galactus we can and cannot use. However, it does seem wrong that some people are automatically reverting to a version of Galactus that only accomplished what he did, with outside assistance (ie. he didn't do it solo.)

Originally posted by Galan007
I am by no means saying which Galactus we can and cannot use. However, it does seem wrong that some people are automatically reverting to a version of Galactus that only accomplished what he did, with outside assistance (ie. he didn't do it solo.)

You asked what would be the top of the top, I asked if five cosmic cube was something that you could use in that aspect, it is from my point of view a good feat.

I'm not really sure what feat you're talking about, tbh.

http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/Gamora%20scalpel/

This One he is Using Gamora as a Scalpel, but I can see that it's a matter of how you choose to look at it.

I guess that's a good feat, but how would it help against Spectre?

Did I say it would? I merely pointed out that if Galactus (in the relevant comic by Nova's account) hadn't been feeding prior to the hunting for Magus began, and yet was capable of seperating Eternity and Infinity bounded together by five cosmic cubes (one merged I believe four universe all in all), then try to amplify that up to full power, it relates very well with what Doom said actually, that even though he had a Cosmic Cube (and by Reeds account that was enough to make him master of the universe) he still went for Galactus power, in comparison to which he described the Cosmic Cube as but a Fraction. This is merely to give some perspective into that when People say high end feat it doesn't equal the Galactus from Black Celestial Act. However we still have Spectre (the way I understand it) who broke the power of the IG in the Marvel/DC crossover, which I believe both companies regard as canon.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
This is ****ing bullshit.........

People are arguing Galactus actually has a chance? After what Crispus just did in FC, even he would chump Galactus, and he was one of the weakest Spectres. And also current, WHO FORUM RULES SAY WE REVERT TO. People bringing up Hostless Spectre is useless, and again, pointless. Also, considering what a hostless Spectre did in FC, I would not lowball him.........ermm

The only one arguing that Galactus can win this is Quan.

Originally posted by Galan007
Which would be what exactly? Certainly not during the Black Celestial arc, in which he had been 'altered' by Tiamut, right?


I didn't mean that, Galactus has enough to go around just to hang in his feat of the Dark Celestial saga.

Originally posted by Galan007
No, but it made his hunger geometrically greater - which is the only reason he might have been able to eat Marvel. Actually that would be wrong.

He is pretty much always hungry, but seeing as he doesn't want to destroy the universe he settles for planets.

Originally posted by Mindset
Actually that would be wrong.

He is pretty much always hungry, but seeing as he doesn't want to destroy the universe he settles for planets. Actually, it would be correct. Here's the panel I was referencing:

http://s1d3.turboimagehost.com/t/1258584_t1.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Actually, it would be correct. Here's the panel I was referencing:

http://s1d3.turboimagehost.com/t/1258584_t1.jpg I know what you were talking about, you were wrong in thinking that he would only be able to keep eating because of Tiamut's alteration.

god = god's left hand = god's right hand > galactus.

Originally posted by Raoul
god > god's left hand = god's right hand > galactus. god's right hand > god's left hand

Originally posted by Mindset
god's right hand > god's left hand

god is ambidextrous. uhuh

Originally posted by Mindset
I know what you were talking about, you were wrong in thinking that he would only be able to keep eating because of Tiamut's alteration. I only said that Tiamut altered G, and increased his hunger geometrically.

I never said Galactus doesn't have the potential to accomplish the same type of 'feat' as he did during the BCA, on his own. However, it is a 'feat' he has yet to achieve, sans outside assistance.

Originally posted by Galan007
which is the only reason he might have been able to eat Marvel. ...

ie. the omniverse.

If you have something that says he could eat the omniverse without having his hunger drastically increased, you can post it whenever.

You don't realize you are contradicting yourself?

Originally posted by Galan007
I never said Galactus doesn't have the potential to accomplish the same type of 'feat' as he did during the BCA, on his own.

I'm not contradicting myself whatsoever. I just don't think you're following what I am saying.

How do these not contradict?
Originally posted by Galan007
I never said Galactus doesn't have the potential to accomplish the same type of 'feat' as he did during the BCA, on his own.

Originally posted by Galan007
No, but it made his hunger geometrically greater - which is the only reason he might have been able to eat Marvel.

Originally posted by guy222
How does Galactus beat one who is empowered by the Presence?

He doesn't good friend This isn't about the presence it's about the Spectre.Originally posted by TricksterPriest
This is ****ing bullshit.........

People are arguing Galactus actually has a chance? After what Crispus just did in FC, even he would chump Galactus, and he was one of the weakest Spectres. And also current, WHO FORUM RULES SAY WE REVERT TO. People bringing up Hostless Spectre is useless, and again, pointless. Also, considering what a hostless Spectre did in FC, I would not lowball him.........ermm I said hostless spectre because unless otherwise specified I am not checking my dates and the comics to see which one is being applied.

Originally posted by Mindset
How do these not contradict? Because character potential, and character feats are two completely different things.

As far as these threads are concerned, what Galactus has the potential to do is quite meaningless if he's never actually done so. And in terms of feats, the only time he might have been able to eat Marvel was during the BCA (when he was altered.)

The Presence empowers the Spectre

and Spectre is gonna win

I don't see how Galactus wins. He's not consuming the Spectre

Thats just silly

Originally posted by guy222
The Presence empowers the Spectre

and Spectre is gonna win

I don't see how Galactus wins. He's not consuming the Spectre

Thats just silly

Originally posted by Galan007
Because character potential, and character feats are two completely different things.

As far as these threads are concerned, what Galactus has the potential to do is quite meaningless if he's never actually done so. And in terms of feats, the only time he might have been able to eat Marvel was during the BCA (when he was altered.)
You saying he was only able to do something because of the alteration contradicts your statement that he has the potential to do it on his own.

Also Galactus doesn't have a limit to the amount of energy he can consume, the only thing that stops him is himself. Which is again why I say you are wrong when you say the only reason he was going to be able to consume the universe was because of Tiamut.

It's pretty obvious that Galactus could do this on his own since the only thing Tiamut changed was Galactus hunger and nothing else.

Spec wins this one

Originally posted by Mindset
You saying he was only able to do something because of the alteration contradicts your statement that he has the potential to do it on his own. But the potential I was referring to, is unrealized potential - so it's quite meaningless in a debate. That was the point of my last post.

Originally posted by Mindset
It's pretty obvious that Galactus could do this on his own Except the only time Galactus may have actually been able to do so on panel (which is all that really matters) is when his hunger was increased by Tiamut. I'm not going to debate what he might be able to do on his own, though.

Meh, whatevs..

Originally posted by Galan007
But the potential I was refering to, is unrealized potential - so it's quite meaningless in a debate. That was the point point of my last post.

Except the only time Galactus may have actually been able to do so (which is all that really matters) is when his hunger was increased by Tiamut. I'm not going to debate what he might be able to do on his own, though.

But I'm sure if Mr M responds he'll post a shit ton of scans that have nothing to do with this particular debate.... So there's always that to look forward to. ermm I wasn't trying to use it in a debate, I just don't see how you didn't think those two posts were contrary to each other. He can't both have the potential to do it on his on and only be able to do it because of alteration. That doesn't make sense.

It's a possibility that Galactus could absorb the whole universe because he never actually did it, but it's a fact the Galactus has the power to reproduce what was actually shown in the arc because nothing about his power was changed only his appetite, which has no bearing over his power.

Galan - what has Crispus Spectre done featwise that puts him above a full-powered Galactus? What impressed you?

Originally posted by Mindset
but it's a fact the Galactus has the power to reproduce what was actually shown in the arc because nothing about his power was changed only his appetite, which has no bearing over his power. Ehh, his hunger was geometrically increased. That has everything to do with the 'feat' in question.

However, it's a moot point any way you cut it.

ur a moot point!

I know.






















over

Originally posted by Mindset
ur a moot point!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Too powerful imo. I mean Shazam took him to the distance and the only reason he didn't win was because of the whole magic thing which won't aid him against Galactus.


Shazam didnt win because the specter is basically the hand of god and eats skyfathers for breakfast. Shazam never had a chance. Although he put up a good fight considering he just fought mordu earlier.

Augh, shitbeans. I didn't know Galactus had to eat the whole omniverse or whatever to reach full power. Can someone change my original post so that it says he does that? Everyone just assume he's at real full power.

Originally posted by UKR
Augh, shitbeans. I didn't know Galactus had to eat the whole omniverse or whatever to reach full power. Can someone change my original post so that it says he does that? Everyone just assume he's at real full power. that he eats the omniverse?

Originally posted by UKR
Augh, shitbeans. I didn't know Galactus had to eat the whole omniverse or whatever to reach full power. Can someone change my original post so that it says he does that? Everyone just assume he's at real full power. He never ate the omniverse.

Originally posted by Mindset
He never ate the omniverse. check Galactus v3 #102 page ten
he eats the Omniverse and than god

Originally posted by guy222
The Presence empowers the Spectre

and Spectre is gonna win

I don't see how Galactus wins. He's not consuming the Spectre

Thats just silly

Fully backed Spectre would win.

That's about it.

Originally posted by guy222
The Presence empowers the Spectre

and Spectre is gonna win

I don't see how Galactus wins. He's not consuming the Spectre

Thats just silly

Agreed.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Fully backed Spectre would win.

That's about it. Agree with your post, but if not backed up by The Presence, Spectre will fall!

Originally posted by Utrigita

However we still have Spectre (the way I understand it)
who broke the power of the IG in the Marvel/DC crossover,
which I believe both companies regard as canon.
Never once has it been depicted or stated on panel, (in Marvel comics)
that Spectre did anything to the IG,
or any other Marvel artifact or character for that matter.

That silly cross-over isn't canon to Marvel,
not by any stretch of the imagination,
and the ambibuous vague single sentence reference
made about it in that single Handbook entry,
doesn't define anything.

Btw. Spectre didn't break any IG, or any other power anyway,
Spectre separated some cross-over aspect of Eternity from Kismet,
nothing more,
the sentience that was supposedly controlling those artifacts (Krona)
got stomped like a b*tch by Hawkeye & Flash prior to that
and I'm sure nor the IG or any other artifact there was acting on its own.

Originally posted by Mindset

Also Galactus doesn't have a limit to the amount of energy he can consume, the only thing that stops him is himself. Which is again why I say you are wrong when you say the only reason he was going to be able to consume the universe was because of Tiamut.

It's pretty obvious that Galactus could do this on his own since the only thing Tiamut changed was Galactus hunger and nothing else.
... 100% accurate and true.

616 Galactus has shown on panel he can devour infinite amounts of energy,
like when he fed on Hyperstorm's connection to hyperspace.

Also, 616 Galactus is made up of infinite energy,
we know this is true,
cause when he died, (on panel btw)
he transformed into a star that would radiate enery for eternity.

Who wins?

Whatever, Galactus wins, Spectre wins ... *shrug* just another opinion.

Now, onto the possible facts,
Galactus at full power = no more omniverse ... I re-create the omniverse.

Has this ever been actually depicted on panel?

Nah,
Galactus, although mostly neutral, is somewhat of a good guy too,
he defends reality,
he maintains cosmic consonance,
Eternity/Infinity is his father/mother/brother ect,
so ... you ain't gonna see big G taking out universes for fun,
it's not in his nature, and certainly not in his interest.

This is why we've been given several alternate stories concerning 616 G,
like 616 G in the future (BCA & the Last Galactus story)
to give us insight into what he's capable of,
without actually having to destroy all of Marvel in order to do so.

BCA, (which spans across 616 FF/616Avengers and 691GOTG)
demonstrates to us that Galactus can eat the Omniverse,
because he would've undoubtably if he himself did not stop.

Last Galactus story (Byrne's future vision concerning 616 G)
has Galactus destroying the Marvel Universe battling Ecce,
Ecce is defeated,
then Galactus cracks open his chest where his infinite energies are stored,
and proceeds to create all of Marvel anew.
(that's a mega high positioning for Ecce as well I might add)

Originally posted by Mr Master
616 Galactus has shown on panel he can devour infinite amounts of energy,
like when he fed on Hyperstorm's connection to hyperspace. In no way/shape/form did Galactus devour an infinite amount of energy when he started feeding on Hyperstorm. The only way that would be correct is if Galactus would've devoured Hyperspace itself (ie. the true source of infinite energy.) But he didn't.